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[Official SSB4 Discussion] --- Nintendo announces 2 new Smash games!
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Lovely
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Yea, I was kind of thinking of him lately, (maybe it was because I just downloaded Super Mario RPG). But yea, someone need to revive him to be in more Mario games, right Square Enix?
Gordo Michael
Smash Journeyman
I mean that they should have it as online options as opposed to the timed ffa matches. Sorry if that wasn't clarified.
Something else I remember reading about in this thread was an idea of an in-game marketplace where you could spend those 9999 coins. From what I understand, you could choose an avatar (one of the characters from the roster) and you would walk across this plaza and search for what store you want to visit. I also remember the store clerks would be characters from the different Nintendo games i.e. - the clerk for the hidden stages store would be Tingle (he would sell you the map of the stage therefore unlocking it). The stores would sell unlockable alternate costumes and trophies along with other unlockables. I think that'd be an awesome idea.
You've more than likely noticed how like 5 melee characters were taken out of Brawl. There are a few I wouldn't be surprised to see missing in the next edition. (Note: This is not a wishlist for removal)
*Lucas (Definitely)
*Olimar
*Zero-suit Samus
*Ice Climbers
*Pit
*Snake (Likely. They often refer to him as a "guest character")
*Sonic (Scary, but likely)
*Lucario
*Pokemon Trainer (?)
*Wario
I repeat, these are characters that have a good chance of being removed.
*Lucas (Definitely)
*Olimar
*Zero-suit Samus
*Ice Climbers
*Pit
*Snake (Likely. They often refer to him as a "guest character")
*Sonic (Scary, but likely)
*Lucario
*Pokemon Trainer (?)
*Wario
I repeat, these are characters that have a good chance of being removed.
SirKibble
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Notice that aside from Mewtwo, all the cut Melee characters were clones, which I don't doubt is a major reason for their removal. Anyway:
Lucas isn't going anywhere. He's seriously loved by the Japanese.
Olimar is pretty much the only character we have repping a 21st century series. He'll stay.
ZSS, I'm confident, will remain as is.
The Ice Climbers, if they were gonna get the boot, would've gotten it in Brawl.
The hype about Pit will definitely keep him in.
Snake and Sonic will most likely stay, as their inclusion was highly publicized for Brawl and they've consequently become heavily liked characters.
Lucario could leave us. He may very well be replaced by a 5th-generation Pokemon.
PT is too unique and too representative of Pokemon as a whole to go anywhere.
Wario... He's Wario. He deserves to stay in, for sure. Taking Wario out would be almost as bad as taking Luigi out. Well... Not quite, but still pretty ridiculous.
Given all those characters, I'm shocked we don't see R.O.B. on your list.
Lucas isn't going anywhere. He's seriously loved by the Japanese.
Olimar is pretty much the only character we have repping a 21st century series. He'll stay.
ZSS, I'm confident, will remain as is.
The Ice Climbers, if they were gonna get the boot, would've gotten it in Brawl.
The hype about Pit will definitely keep him in.
Snake and Sonic will most likely stay, as their inclusion was highly publicized for Brawl and they've consequently become heavily liked characters.
Lucario could leave us. He may very well be replaced by a 5th-generation Pokemon.
PT is too unique and too representative of Pokemon as a whole to go anywhere.
Wario... He's Wario. He deserves to stay in, for sure. Taking Wario out would be almost as bad as taking Luigi out. Well... Not quite, but still pretty ridiculous.
Given all those characters, I'm shocked we don't see R.O.B. on your list.
Linkshot
Smash Hero
I'd be scared if, to make Ganondorf not a clone, they removed Falcon, since he's just a racecar driver.
If anything, Mother 3 will get another representative, with the English fan translation coming out recently.
Toon Link might get the boot because they're too lazy to make him not just another Link and fans will be mad if he is.
And I honestly don't believe there will be a 5th Gen, at least I hope there won't. Mewtwo should replace Jiggs. Pikachu at least did have a half main role in the Pokemon game series. Jiggs did not.
Let's face it, the entire (save for the 3 starters) Pokemon representation is anime-based.
Pikachu: Yellow was based off Anime.
Pokemon Trainer: Uses Ash's voice.
Lucario: zomg he got a recent movie put him in
Jigglypuff: Heeey she has a funny role in the anime :D Worth nothing in the game, though.
Seriously. We need Pokemon representation fixed. Mewtwo, Kanto Trainer, Sinnoh Trainer, Darkrai.
If anything, Mother 3 will get another representative, with the English fan translation coming out recently.
Toon Link might get the boot because they're too lazy to make him not just another Link and fans will be mad if he is.
And I honestly don't believe there will be a 5th Gen, at least I hope there won't. Mewtwo should replace Jiggs. Pikachu at least did have a half main role in the Pokemon game series. Jiggs did not.
Let's face it, the entire (save for the 3 starters) Pokemon representation is anime-based.
Pikachu: Yellow was based off Anime.
Pokemon Trainer: Uses Ash's voice.
Lucario: zomg he got a recent movie put him in
Jigglypuff: Heeey she has a funny role in the anime :D Worth nothing in the game, though.
Seriously. We need Pokemon representation fixed. Mewtwo, Kanto Trainer, Sinnoh Trainer, Darkrai.
No chance. The originals aren't going anywhere. Like Sir Kibble said, this also applies to Jiggs.
GreenKirby
Smash Master
Didn't the Mewtwo movie come out like 11 years ago? GET FREAKING OVER IT PEOPLE! IT'S NOT RECENT!
C WAT EYE DID THAR
C WAT EYE DID THAR
Linkshot
Smash Hero
There are 3 Mewtwo movies. Origin of Mewtwo, Mewtwo Strikes Back, Mewtwo Returns.
Roihu
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YES! EYE C WAT U DID THAR!
But Mewtwo was so badass.
Lucario is just...
Mewtwo was like the most badass villain ever.
Lucario was like cool the first time, but then... meh...
Big-Cat
Challenge accepted.
You forgot The Psychic Menace, Revenge of the Mewtwo, and Return of the Mew.
Thrillhouse-vh.
Smash Hero
-The Poke Menace (JPN name for the first stateside one)
-Attack of the Clones (the first stateside one)
-Revenge of Mewtwo (JPN name for the second one)
-A New Mew (intro to the first stateside one)
-Mewtwo Strikes Back (Sequel)
-Return of the Mewtwo (Second sequel)
Just to clear things up.
anyone who doesn't c wut i did thar has got to be a moron
Where do you come up with this? You speak like it's been said, and it hasn't.
A lot of people have been doing it and I would just like to point out, you do not know stop acting like you do. Sorry just a pet peeve and had to point this out.
flyinfilipino
Smash Master
Well, there is strong evidence...Ness and Jigglypuff are still around after three games, despite many people saying they would've been cut in Brawl. But it's however you want to look at it....Where do you come up with this? You speak like it's been said, and it hasn't.
A lot of people have been doing it and I would just like to point out, you do not know stop acting like you do. Sorry just a pet peeve and had to point this out.
Thrillhouse-vh.
Smash Hero
That's right, Ness will always be in Smash Bros....
...Until Now!111lolololol!~!11
Ah, Remember those days?
flyinfilipino
Smash Master
Yep, I thought they were over....That's right, Ness will always be in Smash Bros....
...Until Now!111lolololol!~!11
Ah, Remember those days?
UP UNTIL NOW.
*hey look, i can see a little jigglypuff head*
C.Olimar788
Smash Ace
At this point there is no chance of any of the original 12 leaving Smash. Well, unless one of the original 12's companies leaves Ninten-- *stops in fear of jinxing it*
flyinfilipino
Smash Master
Rare and Game Freak! Rare and Game Freak! RARE AND GAME FREAK!
Kiki52
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Linkshot
Smash Hero
Very true. Ness (and his entire fanbase) is the reason Lucas exists!
ungulateman
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flyinfilipino
Smash Master
No, now you're jinxing it!QFT.
Wait, Game Freak left Nintendo?
We can forget ever seeing Mewtwo in Smash again now.
MasterWarlord
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The majority of people in this thread, especially SmashBrosMike, left Nintendo!
If only that were true. . .
What? Why am I posting in here again?
I think Sakurai will of learned his lesson from Brawl with the anti competetive ness and the massive uproar caused by it, I expect SSB4 to correct most of Brawl's flaws.
If only that were true. . .
What? Why am I posting in here again?
I think Sakurai will of learned his lesson from Brawl with the anti competetive ness and the massive uproar caused by it, I expect SSB4 to correct most of Brawl's flaws.
SirKibble
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For great justice!!
. . .
Okay, actually, I have no idea; it's just that everything sounds better if it's "for great justice!". . .
And I don't think Sakurai really cares too much that people freaked about Brawl not being "competitive enough." Maybe just me, but he doesn't seem like the kind of guy to give in like that.
flyinfilipino
Smash Master
For great justice. And people are really blowing it out of proportion anyway.
TheAceOfSmash
Smash Apprentice
Better online. and competitive tournament settings for online tourneys.
SSB4 won't come out for at least half a decade. That is, until Nintendo releases the next console after the Wii. Its been like this for the beginning, so we can't expect it to come out soon, or improve Brawl at all. Melee was completely different from the original, and Brawl is different from Melee. Therefore, SSB4 will be entirely different from Brawl, and rather than fix Brawl's mistakes, it will ignore them and create more of their own. Sakurai's complete ignorance to the infinates of Melee proved this. In other words, by the time SSB4 comes out, if we do nothing, the competitive base of Smash will probably crumble under the anti-competitive nature of Nintendo.
I do, however, have a relatively simple plan already set into motion to reverse this. Many will cry fool; I assure you I am not. http://www.smashboards.com/group.php?groupid=426
There's a group I created to see how many people will support an actual REMAKE OF BRAWL. Not SSB4, but Brawl, re-released with extra content and a balanced roster. We all know Nintendo won't do this on their own, so we must band together as Smashers to literally petition Nintendo and show them exactly how many dedicated, and competitive, smashers are out there.
In short, if you've ever hoped Brawl could be more fair, have more content, less lag- at least check out my group and hear what I have to say. If we don't try, Nintendo will never change, and SSB's competitive game will, as I said before, crumble under Nintendo's competitive failure.
I can almost garuntee there will be a more broken character than Meta Knight in SSB4 if we do nothing.
I do, however, have a relatively simple plan already set into motion to reverse this. Many will cry fool; I assure you I am not. http://www.smashboards.com/group.php?groupid=426
There's a group I created to see how many people will support an actual REMAKE OF BRAWL. Not SSB4, but Brawl, re-released with extra content and a balanced roster. We all know Nintendo won't do this on their own, so we must band together as Smashers to literally petition Nintendo and show them exactly how many dedicated, and competitive, smashers are out there.
In short, if you've ever hoped Brawl could be more fair, have more content, less lag- at least check out my group and hear what I have to say. If we don't try, Nintendo will never change, and SSB's competitive game will, as I said before, crumble under Nintendo's competitive failure.
I can almost garuntee there will be a more broken character than Meta Knight in SSB4 if we do nothing.
Roihu
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That's technically an SSB4. =\
Nintendo, especially Sakurai, doesn't give a **** about what the competitive do. He can still sell nearly half a million copies without the competitors.
Competitors in Brawl are like, what? 1000 max?
Less lag wouldn't come with a remake. Less lag would come with an updated server.
SirKibble
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Well, aren't you just a bucket of sunshine...
Nothing against competitives, seriously, because I know plenty of you are awesome people, but some of you really know how to throw a hissy fit, and you care too much. It's a game, it's supposed to be fun.
Seriously, though, what's all this "woe is me" business and almost undoubtedly futile attempts at getting Smash "fixed." It ain't broken. Sure, some characters are really good, and some are not so good. You will never get the game balanced, unless you give every character the same freakin' moveset. Is it so hard to just deal with it?
It's times like these I love being a casual. I'm so glad I get to like this game.
Nothing against competitives, seriously, because I know plenty of you are awesome people, but some of you really know how to throw a hissy fit, and you care too much. It's a game, it's supposed to be fun.
Seriously, though, what's all this "woe is me" business and almost undoubtedly futile attempts at getting Smash "fixed." It ain't broken. Sure, some characters are really good, and some are not so good. You will never get the game balanced, unless you give every character the same freakin' moveset. Is it so hard to just deal with it?
It's times like these I love being a casual. I'm so glad I get to like this game.
Lonestar_Phoenixxx
Smash Rookie
not sure if anyone said this, but i would like to see skull kid (majoras mask). and knuckles. and a few new standalone pokemon maybe frosslass, gallade, heracross, machamp (awesome possibilities), blaziken, and garchomp. especially the latter two.
uh...lets see...GOKU!!! HAHAA!! no...definately k.rool...uh replace diddy with conker...and instead of the assist trophy, lets have a custom robo, with different costumes making different physical effects and body types...and if pokemon trainer can have more pokemon...id like rotom...and politoed...and flygon. theres your three...lets see...your Mii would be cool...Chrono, of COURSE and, I'll do one more, because im not going to stop if i dont stop now...grey fox. need i say more?
uh...lets see...GOKU!!! HAHAA!! no...definately k.rool...uh replace diddy with conker...and instead of the assist trophy, lets have a custom robo, with different costumes making different physical effects and body types...and if pokemon trainer can have more pokemon...id like rotom...and politoed...and flygon. theres your three...lets see...your Mii would be cool...Chrono, of COURSE and, I'll do one more, because im not going to stop if i dont stop now...grey fox. need i say more?
Lonestar_Phoenixxx
Smash Rookie
and LEON KENNEDY
SirKibble
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A lot of those characters area really, really unlikely, especially the truckload of Pokemon newcomers. Although a couple (like King K.Rool and Custom Robo) have got a good shot.
Also, please don't double post. That's what the "Edit" button is for.
Also, please don't double post. That's what the "Edit" button is for.
C.Olimar788
Smash Ace
D-Do I smell a Phoenix Wright quote? Or am I just too obsessed with that game for my own good? :O
Aaanyway, you know what annoys me? People with unhealthy wishlists for Smash Bros.
Skull Kid - Unlikely, considering he's not important to the series out of MM.
Knuckles - Tails first, ok?
Frosslass, Gallade, Heracross, Machamp, Blaziken, Garchomp - None of these have very much significance to the series. Like, at all. All they really have is popularity, and some of them don't even have THAT. Let's see Mewtwo, Gardevoir, or Darkra (mostly Darkrai) first.
Goku - I'll just assume this is sarcasm.
K. Rool - I can agree with this one. That's a first. XD
Conker - Rare left Nintendo. Conker was a critical failure. And comparing Diddy and Conker is about as ridiculous as comparing Mario and Otacon.
Customizable Custom Robo - This'd be interesting... I'd like to just see Ray instead, though.
Pokemon Trainer + more Pokemon - Three is enough. And I hate the idea of a second trainer, too. Let him stay unique and halfway usable, please. ^^;
Mii - I concur, though many people don't.
Chrono - Don't know. Honestly I don't care, either. Isn't he Square? Shouldn't something from FF get in first?
Grey Fox - Lol no. Let's keep him an AT, mmmkay?
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