Official MBR 2010 NTSC Tier List

[x After Dawn x]

Pichu's recovery is actually a lot better than Pikachu's.

He doesn't get punished when you force him to land on stage, which is kind of the major exploitable weakness of Pikachu's.

I think the major exploitable weakness in Pikachu's recovery is the fact that his hurtbox extends horizontally and vertically multiple times during his up B. Doesn't seem like much of a big deal but I've heard many Pikachu players complain about it.

Not sure if Pichu's does the same thing because nobody gives a **** about Pichu.

 

[Exelcior]

I think the major exploitable weakness in Pikachu's recovery is the fact that his hurtbox extends horizontally and vertically multiple times during his up B. Doesn't seem like much of a big deal but I've heard many Pikachu players complain about it.

Not sure if Pichu's does the same thing because nobody gives a **** about Pichu.

I think his worst weakness is when he hits the stage. If Pikachu Up+B's into the stage he gets so much lag, it's hard NOT to punish it. You can avoid it by Up+B'ing above the stage but that still leaves you open when you are falling in a helpless state toward the ground. This is why it's a much better option to just sweet spot the ledge most of the time.

 

[hungrybox]

i like when people said i copied mango for typing like this

even though i ALWAYSSS HAVE

 

[x After Dawn x]

yeah but you're lame

 

[Stevo]

I miss Mango's posts

I even miss ICG's posts

but not really

 

[-ACE-]

i like when people said i copied mango for typing like this

even though i ALWAYSSS HAVE

yeah but

you don't

do it like

this

which is just

dumb

imo

Lol. I do think jona copied mango though

 

[bossa nova ♪]

nah see ur


not doin it righ


t

u gotta


be even more stupid



with it

 

[Dark Hart]

come one guys

I'm not that bad

with the mango like

posting am I?

 

[Pi]

his enter key has tourettes

 

[x After Dawn x]

lol

like

guys

if you

really

REALLY

want to

like

separat
e

your thoughts

HARD

CORE

then just be

a
giant

douc
hebag

and

press

that spacebar

button

you know

on your keyboard

a millio
n

times

until people get th
e

point

or the thread gets locked.

 

[Beat!]

I think pressing the enter key would accomplish the same thing much faster than pressing spacebar would.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

 

[Laijin]

I hate this thread

 

[choknater]

lol

i liked icg too, but ppl's posting styles come and go. some of u guys never got to see my spamming days LOLLOLO

my favorite right now is poundslap, that guy's freakin hilarious ROFL. i used to think he was stupid but now i think his worship of armada is soooo over the top it's hilarious and i can't tell if he's being serious or trolling. legit

 

[DtJ Jungle]

hey

tier list

stay on topic.

 

[Dark Hart]

Shut up, Jungle

 

[KirbyKaze]

oh what was a vaguely interesting topic...

oh yeah.

Falcon vs. Peach in the tier list

Should Peach truly be above Falcon?

Go go go

 

[bossa nova ♪]

Shut up, Jungle

hahahahahaha

oh ****, gotta stay on topic




tier list.




falcon is underrated :D

bair more

 

[SleepyK]

i agree. lots of people are saying nowadays that "falcon sucks" but i think he's pretty good with a major flaw (lack out oos options). other characters are just better.

 

[thesage]

Falcon beats Peach, but Peach has better matchups with the higher tiers (besides Marth) and ***** ICs.

 

[Roneblaster]

its not that he has a lack of options, its that he has a lack of options vs better characters. a severe lack of options.

 

[bossa nova ♪]

nawww just bair errybody

 

[x After Dawn x]

i got infracted for spam because of the huge breaks in my posts

lolol

 

[KirbyKaze]

Falcon beats Peach, but Peach has better matchups with the higher tiers (besides Marth) and ***** ICs.

debatable

hax says he's fine vs puff and sheik

many people feel he's the same or better vs fox

;o

 

[bossa nova ♪]

lol wow the most variably understood character in high tiers seems like

 

[THeDarKnesS]

i got infracted for spam because of the huge breaks in my posts

lolol

LOL, is that what it was for, I thought it was for being a ****ing *******.

*shrug*

 

[Dark Hart]

I got an infraction

for telling Jungle to shut up

and it wasn't from Jungle.

and Falcon... iunno

he's an all or nothing character

 

[KirbyKaze]

The commonplace perception of Falcon as an all or nothing character is strange to me, because some of the most successful Falcon styles in development right now are mostly big into abusing Falcon's range and speed to play a really strong poking / keep out game.

I think the ability to land big punishes off pokes is a large part of what makes Falcon good. And he doesn't really need to do a whole lot to get a big punish. So long as you've slotted "Knee" or "Dair" somewhere into your combo, it's probably a big punish. Uairs are also very good. People grossly underrate Falcon's edgeguarding... especially vs anyone that takes a while to recover, or vs anyone that has onstage recovery lag. Reverse Knees hurt.

He also has the speed to keep people from trying certain camping strategies, which is a big problem for Peach in a whole lot of MUs.

 

[bossa nova ♪]

oh yeah baby keep talkin like that kirbykaze talk to me more baby yyyyyeeeeeee!!!!

 

[Roneblaster]

nothing is quite as easy as "loldownb"

 

[SpeedGhost]

I just checked out the AZ tier list from their votes, and that sh*t was tight.

 

[Ocean]

I feel like falcon's bair is vastly underrated.

 

[strawhats]

I feel like falcon's bair is vastly underrated.

I believe a very wise smasher said that bair will have a great impact on falcon's metagame in the future.

 

[Ocean]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuUckQQXG8I

 

[JPOBS]

falcon's bair is good, i don't really see how it can be used any more than it is right now to change his play though.

 

[KirbyKaze]

It's a pretty straightforward move.

 

[-ACE-]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuUckQQXG8I

Lol, nice.

 

[KAOSTAR]

I think comboing into reverse bair for no reason at all is pretty nifty.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

I think comboing into reverse bair for no reason at all is pretty nifty.

I don't think nifty is the word I'd use... Probably "silly". Except in a "probably has some kind of competitive application" silly.

 

[Bamesy]

I pretty much spam reverse hits with every character. Bair is no exception.

Inverts are sexy.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Reverse Bair --> move isn't new