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But the problem is, most of the people debating are Mid level players, the tournament scene reflects character matchups from High level play, we need more respected smashers posting in there and clearing things up to really make it accurate.
you say tierwhoring like there is already a list out or something.tiers are for queers it depends on the player...i don't care if u are the best with that character any other random character can still beat u .........i mean in other words anyone would just be a tierwhore like they are now...how many metaknights are in the usa???....like half the freakin nation..
then again i don't mind fighting any character cause i no there rutine......except deedeedee i hate that penguin.....im not complaining.....this tier thingy is basically just a popularity contest and who to counter against who there worst matchups are.......im done u sir GTFO or face the wrath of mario facepalm..
That's always an issue even when dealing with respected smashers, unless it's the absolute top player, it's never going to be perfectly accurate. You always have to accept that since you cannot have all the relevant facts on any issue, new information might always force a change in your conclusion. However, you are debating based on what is most likely correct given what you know.
Match-ups are critical to building a tier list... you can't have a tier list without match-ups. Match-ups tell you what characters have more advantages and what characters have fewer advantages, thus which characters are better. For that reason, when creating a tier list, you have to debate match-ups otherwise you have no foundation to base it on, and it just becomes personal bias.
As long as there are metagames for each character, a tier list can be made. You don't need to wait a year or any other length of time.
I know that, but having noobs try and make it out isn't going to help the accuracy, we need people who knw what they're talking about, not clowns like that Boss guy who probably inhabit that Matchup thread and what makes it inaccurate.
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DDD- Okay so good players play DDD that is great. It doesn't change the fact that he doesn't have an impressive list of good matchups and that he has some fairly blatant cons. Good, in fact great, but still too high.
I'm pretty sure the standard is six tiers now. Marth, D3, Falco, GaW, and R.O.B. have pretty much proven themselves to be above the high tier and some of your middle tier can compete with some of your high tier (DK, Wario, Kirby, Pit, Zelda, maybe I missed a few) and can hardly be classified as just "middle tier."
That's like saying you want to get a flu shot, then going around trying to get sick.
Then don't assume he knows nothing. Ganon and yoshi are good in some aspects, but both characters are pretty low on the list.
Oh, god....my ribs.....
it's because almost every character is better than him, obviusly.
Not this argument. It has no stock. Besides when every character is played to their max potential (Which a tier list is assuming), Yoshi's max potential is low. Someone has to be on the bottom, and in this case, it's Yoshi.
So very well put *claps* pretty much one huge point I've been trying to get across for a while.
While Tourney results shouldn't be TOO heavily relied on, their honestly has to be a reason why Yoshi is dead last in tourney outings so far, and has some pretty bad matchups overall.
Not only is this list very bad, but what in the hell is JigglySamus O-O.
Nobody plays Yoshi... that's why he's last
Samus is low tier for a couple of reasons.
