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Official BBR Tier List v7

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-LzR-

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Who isn't stupid easy to juggle when you have an uair that you can do 4 times when your opponent airdodges?
 

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How could I forget a character with such linear horizantal mobility and fat as hell could be hard to juggle? I must be delusional.

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You guys mixed up the tools DDD uses to land with the tools he doesn't have to avoid getting juggled. People will hit DDD, Snake and Dk over and over and over because they don't have much. Snake can trade with a grenade or attempt to go high... that's pretty good
(It's not really that good
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I think we have to define what "easy to juggle" means to begin with before we start a pointless debate of "HURR I JUGGL U EZ WIT UPAIR LOL".
By that, I mean having a baseline of a character that is considered average and work from there.

Dedede's hurtbox is the size of 'murica and has lousy horizontal air speed. He does have 2fast4me fall speed, reliable DAir against a couple of characters for a relatively safe landing and a interesting b-reverse inhale that hasn't been exploited by many players.

I don't think TripleD falls in the "throw controller at wall to juggle successfully" category, however he's definitely far from being a god up there either.

Case in point : MK outright wrecks us as soon as we jump. In that case, "HURR I JUGGL U EZ WIT UPAIR LOL".

Edit because post is too serious for my own good. (Thanks Illuvial)



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I swear to God Ness is the new Jigglypuff in this thread. He's right where he should be.
 

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Still not a #1 character, and the shrinking of the stagelist IMO, is not a good thing.
I know it's not good (well kinda but that's complicated and stuff :p) but that's the way it is currently.

I actually get the feeling the stage-list will keep a few stages to counter that exact problem. People won't want ICs becoming nearly as over-powering as MK so they'll probably allow like PS1 or Frigate or castle siege or something.
 

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Because those stages are like totally horrible for ICs right? Well, I guess I'd switch on Frigate...
 

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Pretty much that's why ICs appear to be much better than they actually are. Just like MK isn't as good as he actually he is.
 

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I mean't he would be so much better if the whole ruleset wasn't based around making him worse.
Ruleset doesn't make him worse when the other characters lose out even more. MK doesn't need sharking to be overpowered. All of a sudden people want the stages gone because the Ic's are tired of losing to sharking, something that's been around since 09 lol
 

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And yet nobody thinks of two stagebans, which would do great with APEX stagelist.

But it's easier (and dumber) to just ban.
 

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Why can't we just ban the problem rather than just creating problems for everyone else? Say it with me:
"Metaknight, go jump off of the Bridge of Eldin."
 

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Because 2 years ago it was too early to ban him, we wouldn't know if he was actually too good, 1 year ago it was too late because we knew.
And now no one even cares anymore.
 
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