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Official BBR Matchup Chart v1.0
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Alphicans
Smash Hero
Lots of people are not realizing that there are two sides to every match-up... We had to compensate for TONS of match-ups to best reflect the opinion from both sides.
My best guess is that a lot of people figured out MK. Game has been out for a while now ..
![[FBC] ESAM](/data/avatars/l/92/92614.jpg?1365783210){kind=avatar}
[FBC] ESAM
Smash Legend
Guys, almost every character had at least 3-4 representatives talking. Ones that lacked were Lucario, Luigi, and Pikachu. If you don't have issues with one of those characters, then you just have different opinions than the people in the BBR, and that is to be expected since nearly EVERYBODY has different opinions on MUs.
Lokinario
Smash Apprentice
Btw, The Sethlon Version's link is broken.
EDIT: Actually, you just need to delete the " after the html in the link.
EDIT: Actually, you just need to delete the " after the html in the link.
Who's the third bowser representative?
really?
I know Lucas has nobody in the BBR in the only ones listed are PF and FAE.
Same with Ness except Shaky's the only one listed.
And I'm sure theres probably more.
Steam
Smash Hero
Lucario had like 10 people wut.
unless you're just talking about BBR...
also I don't understand how D3 does better against MK than RoB does....
Nike.
Smash Hero
I have a question. If the Pikas were lacking representatives, then why was K Prime not contacted about this? He pretty much invented Pikachu and knows more about the game almost every person on smashboards.
Albert.
Smash Master
Wow, if you're not going to add constructive critiquing then your post is just going to waste.
Poltergust
Smash Master
If anyone has a problem with some numbers, go ahead and ask why we have the number we have and I'm sure that the people who worked on that match-up will be happy to explain it to you. Simply saying "this chart sucks!" is not helping anyone.
Steam
Smash Hero
why is RoB/MK -3 but D3/MK only -2?If anyone has a problem with some numbers, go ahead and ask why we have the number we have and I'm sure that the people who worked on that match-up will be happy to explain it to you. Simply saying "this chart sucks!" is not helping anyone.
Yink
The Robo-PSIentist
I helped out with Ness as well. I dunno, I think this was ironed out very well and it was a ton of work. It IS v1.0...
Poltergust
Smash Master
Thank you.
EDIT: Unless you are not actually talking to me but to the BBR as a whole. In that case, sorry for being a jerk. XD
stingers
Smash Obsessed
o_O
lol anyways...I disagree here and there with some of ROBs matchups but I won't go into it here. Overall it looks great. Good work guys =]
also my name shouldn't be on that list really >.> Chibo asked me about like the Samus matchup and thats it lol
Kuraudo
4Aerith
You voted Sonic be garbage against a lot of match-ups, didn't you.
DIDN'T YOU.
also why is MK +1 vs Wario and ICs?
Steam
Smash Hero
lol why would you know anything about those MUs? XDThank you.
EDIT: Unless you are not actually talking to me but to the BBR as a whole. In that case, sorry for being a jerk. XD
IC panel was:
Hylian
swordgard
God-is-my-Rock
Tsukasa Kasrani
Orion
I PM'ed both lain and atomsk as well but only atomsk gave feedback. Ic's were one of the hardest panels because everyone had vastly different match-up ratings for every match-up, both ic mains and mains of other characters. Was really frustrating :/ but eventually got done with a lot of compromising.
Hylian
swordgard
God-is-my-Rock
Tsukasa Kasrani
Orion
I PM'ed both lain and atomsk as well but only atomsk gave feedback. Ic's were one of the hardest panels because everyone had vastly different match-up ratings for every match-up, both ic mains and mains of other characters. Was really frustrating :/ but eventually got done with a lot of compromising.
Probably good as far as compromises, though. I hope no groups were overpowered as far as arguments go.
Steam
Smash Hero
because he has an ICs avatar
MysteryRevengerson
IT'S A MYSTERY TO ALL
The only thing I'm curious about are the even match-ups that MK has. I can understand Diddy, Falco seems a bit iffy, and Pikachu vastly surprises me.
Could someone explain?
Could someone explain?
Coney
Smash Master
i don't know. i said mk/ddd was -3 for ddd, as did all the other ddds, but the mks overruled us i guess.
same with diddy/ddd--it's definitely worse than -1 for ddd but the diddys wouldn't budge
DeLux
Player that used to be Lux
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Fair enough, the list was actually pretty close.
There were a few that I was like, "I see (insert name) IC's opinion there."
Ironically, only two of my guess were on the panel lol
But for the most part, all the matchups are within +/-1 imo.
Nice
Jimmyfosho
Smash Hero
question for reflex... (since im pretty sure he is the only PT in the BBR) reasoning for mario vs PT -2 for mario?
[FBC] ESAM
Smash Legend
Mmk, for the Pikachu being even.
Assume for a moment that MK is even with Diddy and Falco.
Comparison time!!!
Recovery:
Pikachu barely gets edgeguarded, maybe 1 in 15 times off stage.
Diddy/Falco get edgeguarded nearly every time.
Pikachu has CG's and high damage combos
As do Falco and Diddy
Pikachu has no trouble killing
Both Falco and Diddy can
Falco can effectively camp
Pikachu/Diddy Can't
Diddy has retardedly amazing ground control
Pikachu/Falco don't.
Pikachu has set combos in the air, on the ground, basically everywhere.
Diddy has set combos on ground only with bananas
Falco has neither.
So yeah, you can tell that Pikachu is at least on the same tier as Falco/Diddy.
Assume for a moment that MK is even with Diddy and Falco.
Comparison time!!!
Recovery:
Pikachu barely gets edgeguarded, maybe 1 in 15 times off stage.
Diddy/Falco get edgeguarded nearly every time.
Pikachu has CG's and high damage combos
As do Falco and Diddy
Pikachu has no trouble killing
Both Falco and Diddy can
Falco can effectively camp
Pikachu/Diddy Can't
Diddy has retardedly amazing ground control
Pikachu/Falco don't.
Pikachu has set combos in the air, on the ground, basically everywhere.
Diddy has set combos on ground only with bananas
Falco has neither.
So yeah, you can tell that Pikachu is at least on the same tier as Falco/Diddy.
Krystedez
Awaken the Path
Overall I'm very pleased with the results, and everything that is off by 1 or -1 is really not that big of a deal (except snake, I'm pretty !@#$ing adamant about Snake being even, not his favor, but whatever LOL I'm just glad that this got off the ground at least!)
I love the chart though, it's awesome looking
I will give a few minor opinions later when I have time!
I love the chart though, it's awesome looking
I will give a few minor opinions later when I have time!
Nike.
Smash Hero
Once again ESAM, why was K Prime not involved in Pikachu discussions?
[FBC] ESAM
Smash Legend
Because Gallax and I basically agreed on everything, and then I was arguing points that other panels had for contention. I asked Prime to send me a list/explanations but he never did...
Nike.
Smash Hero
Oh, I didn't know you asked him about his opinions and he didn't reply. My bad.
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