TechnoMonster
Smash Ace
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Official "Ask Snakeee Stuff... about Stuff" Thread
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DeliciousCake
Smash Lord
That number for the 360 is fabricated by retailers. They wouldn't know how many 360's actually fail.
iRjOn
Smash Lord
Of course it is all % like that are estimated, in this case, on the 360's returned and stuff.
But so...O.O
About that Diddy Kong any thoughts on how the match up runs?
But so...O.O
About that Diddy Kong any thoughts on how the match up runs?
iRjOn
Smash Lord
But nannerz out prioritize the lazer right?
Or doest it become stunned in mid air like Waddle Doos and Dees?
Or doest it become stunned in mid air like Waddle Doos and Dees?
Adapt
Smash Lord
why would you try and shoot his bananas? Grab them and glide toss them right back at him...
iRjOn
Smash Lord
I never once implyed shooting his nanners...>.>
If they see you charging or shooting they probally throw a nanner at your feet.
And if they just happen to collide then I was wondering what happens...
But yea so take control of his nanners.
What makes this matchup so difficult for Zamus?
Snakeee gots it as 60:40 Diddy
So is it still believed that?
Or is it outdated?
If they see you charging or shooting they probally throw a nanner at your feet.
And if they just happen to collide then I was wondering what happens...
But yea so take control of his nanners.
What makes this matchup so difficult for Zamus?
Snakeee gots it as 60:40 Diddy
So is it still believed that?
Or is it outdated?
Adapt
Smash Lord
prolly outdated... Snakeee hasn't modified that topic in a long time.
I think the match is pretty even, but then again. I have never came into contact with a diddy as good as ninjalink
I think the match is pretty even, but then again. I have never came into contact with a diddy as good as ninjalink
iRjOn
Smash Lord
Ahh I see thanx Adapt and Bouse.
I'll see if Snake can give me some matchup advice once he gets on when ever that is.
I'll see if Snake can give me some matchup advice once he gets on when ever that is.
Snakeee
Smash Master
I actually think it might be slightly Diddy's favor or even now....I usually end up planking a bit on Diddy to win >_>
canthandletheSpeculosity
Smash Journeyman
Well, ZSS can do some pretty awesome things with the naners. you have to be careful what you do with them though, because if you use it the wrong way, diddy will just shield it and take it for his gain. He only needs one instant to pick up a banana and throw it at you. like as soon as he grabs it it can be thrown. know that some diddy's can do this, shield the banana, and take it.
Know the set-ups diddy can do with his bananas like glide-toss down into your shield to dsmash or stuff like that. they can do things like dash backward to make you drop your shield then glide-toss one into you as a mindgame (you can do this too). On levels like BF they can pick up naners in the air or on a platform with Z to grab it instantly without lag and throw it right after. So dont forget that diddy can do anything with the naner as soon as he's near it.
when you have the banana dont be obvious in what you want to do with them. While it is possible to glide toss one into him to double dsmash you can be sure they will probably see that coming, shield, then counter. you can throw one up in the air at a diddy to disorient them if it hits them (free uair afterwards) or use it to bait and airdodge and punish it. it can also be used to edgeguard.
Diddy can be scary at times when he has too of them. but you can block it and counter.
So the main thing Im trying to get at is to not GIVE the naner to diddy. throwing it at him just for him to take it back is a big no-no.
Know the set-ups diddy can do with his bananas like glide-toss down into your shield to dsmash or stuff like that. they can do things like dash backward to make you drop your shield then glide-toss one into you as a mindgame (you can do this too). On levels like BF they can pick up naners in the air or on a platform with Z to grab it instantly without lag and throw it right after. So dont forget that diddy can do anything with the naner as soon as he's near it.
when you have the banana dont be obvious in what you want to do with them. While it is possible to glide toss one into him to double dsmash you can be sure they will probably see that coming, shield, then counter. you can throw one up in the air at a diddy to disorient them if it hits them (free uair afterwards) or use it to bait and airdodge and punish it. it can also be used to edgeguard.
Diddy can be scary at times when he has too of them. but you can block it and counter.
So the main thing Im trying to get at is to not GIVE the naner to diddy. throwing it at him just for him to take it back is a big no-no.
iRjOn
Smash Lord
Ahh I see thanx Speculosity
So Snakeee no in depth advice from yah?
:D
I like to have everyone opinion
even you cba
Adapt doesn't have any experience...
:[
But I think Snakeee has the most.
So I would highly apperciate your advice.
:D
Hmmm I just might main Zamus before brawls b-day...
So Snakeee no in depth advice from yah?
:D
I like to have everyone opinion
even you cba
Adapt doesn't have any experience...
:[
But I think Snakeee has the most.
So I would highly apperciate your advice.
:D
Hmmm I just might main Zamus before brawls b-day...
Snakeee
Smash Master
You have to play it even more patiently than most other match ups. How you react on and utilize his bananas is one of the main keys. Bait him into throwing them, and shield them (unless he is very close to you because he will grab you in that case). After you shield a banana, cautiously WALK a step or two and press A to grab it usually. I do not recommend picking it up with a dash attack if Diddy is close by or has another banana out.
Now there are quite a few choices you have while possessing a banana. To list a few choices you can:
1) Glide toss it forward - after this you can follow up with an attempt to grab him as he shields the banana, do a d-tilt if the banana is actually going to hit, or a safer bet would be to do a single jab then down B away (but that doesn't do too much other than shield pressure).
2) have your back to Diddy and glide toss it backward - this spaces yourself from him, and is a good choice if he has the other banana and you expect him to throw it about the same time. However, this doesn't guarantee you any follow ups.
3) simply smash throw the banana at him - follow up with one of the three listed for glide toss forward or you can go for a dash attack. A dash attack is actually the easiest thing to hit him with if the banana connects because of it's speed and range.
4) Throw the banana downwards from the air - I mostly only do this if I am sent into the air by Diddy because it's a solid way to ensure a safe landing. Diddy will have to try to avoid the banana so it allows you to get away from a possible juggle. I also do this on rare occasion to try to mindgame.
5) If Diddy is at high damage you can go for a tech chase Side B. That is if the banana hits him, you can try to guess which way he will roll, or if he will do a normal get up or get up attack and Side B him. I would only go for this if it will likely KO him.
Other than that:
- Almost never go for Side B's while Diddy possesses any bananas. He'll usually hit you with one during it's start up.
- If he is off the stage and under you usually while trying to edgeguard you try to footool him just by jumping. This actually worked a lot for me against Ninja Link although I doubt it will happen much against him again lol.
- Don't try the full jab combo on him or single jab - a tilt. Just do single jab - down B because that's the only way you can avoid a shield grab.
- If you are close to Diddy as he pulls out a banana, jump up and up air to grab it. ZSS' up air is very useful for catching bananas through platforms as well.
- If you are on the ledge, and Diddy throws a banana really close to it, you can ledge hop up air to catch it.
- Down B Special Footstools are both a useful spacing and mindgaming tool. You can footstool both of his projectiles. Sometimes you may want to footstool a banana to get past them, and it's not too difficult to footstool the peanuts - this is particularly useful when he's using them to edgeguard you while you're holding the ledge.
That's a pretty good amount of the match up there, but of course there is more to it than that. If there's anything else specifically about it, feel free to ask
jibbyjaont
Smash Journeyman
Hi all. I haven'tbeen on for awhile. Can someone tell what topic everybody is talking about before I have to read walls of text. Please and Thank you.
iRjOn
Smash Lord
Kinda talking about Zamus vs Diddy
:D
Thanx Snakeee I'll try and get this match up down.
Do you advise using the stun gun any?
:D
Thanx Snakeee I'll try and get this match up down.
Do you advise using the stun gun any?
jibbyjaont
Smash Journeyman
Thanks. All I can say is bananas. I think that's the only thing that you have to be careful about.
noradseven
Smash Lord
Haha I love this match its so fun, its pretty close I really don't know who should win, this game is all about controlling the banana's as mentioned above, aka glide toss banana trip combo fest, if you want to do better in this match get good with diddy trust me it helps alot at getting good at banana's, plus its pretty demoralizing to do the banana trip combo on a diddy, too bad its not infinite anymore because ZSS glide toss's aren't the right distance, but that's what d-smash is for.
Snakeee
Smash Master
Almost never, only on a very rare occasion if I'm far away and he has no bananas nearby.
Up air is much better to use, plus if he tries to attack you it covers a good area. And like I said only pick it up with a dash attack if he is far away and doesn't have the other banana.
Yeah, but the d-smash does NOT combo after a trip. It does not come out in time unless your opponent reacts with the speed of a snail.
iRjOn
Smash Lord
Ight after taking intoaccount the stuff the match seems not that difficult but still alittle troubling
Thanx again Snakeee
Mind if I ask about another match up?
Please help me with Lucario lol
I just have o idea what to do with Zamus...
Thanx again Snakeee
Mind if I ask about another match up?
Please help me with Lucario lol
I just have o idea what to do with Zamus...
jibbyjaont
Smash Journeyman
I think the Lucario matchup has been discussed already. Try looking around.
noradseven
Smash Lord
like still on page 1
kuenzel
Smash Ace
Snakeee, WHY do cheese and crackers make such a delicious combination?
noradseven
Smash Lord
Fixed it for you.
canthandletheSpeculosity
Smash Journeyman
There's a dead squirrel outside my house, what do I do?
choknater
Smash Obsessed
Hey Snakeee... can you explain to me how a lemon juicer works?
On a slightly more serious note, do you really like to play Sheik a lot now? Haha <3
On a slightly more serious note, do you really like to play Sheik a lot now? Haha <3
jibbyjaont
Smash Journeyman
Hold it up as high as you can and make squirrel sounds. Rally the squirrels and start a revolution.
canthandletheSpeculosity
Smash Journeyman
Thanks Jibby. Snakeee, can you do a double backflip?
Snakeee
Smash Master
Np, and check the first pages like the others said for Lucario.
...Well I always liked using Sheik a lot, but now maybe even more than ZSS...don't worry I'm still a ZSS main lol
canthandletheSpeculosity
Smash Journeyman
You uhh...you arent gonna BETRAY us right Snakeee? And are you going to brawl til' you fall?
Snakeee
Smash Master
Haha well maybe I just need to take a break from my main for a bit
canthandletheSpeculosity
Smash Journeyman
>_> What's wrong with ZSS? She's better than that wannabe ninja...
Snakeee
Smash Master
You....that's it I'm taking you down with Sheik at BTYF!
canthandletheSpeculosity
Smash Journeyman
lol, can't wait to see you there. My ZSS vs Dark Snakeee. since you went to "dark" side now using her...
But I wouldn't mind doing some dittos with you. Dittos really arent that bad Snakeee since we both know how to use ZSS w/o spamming side b, it makes the fight more active and fast. In these dittos imo it's all about who can be more offensive than the other.
But I wouldn't mind doing some dittos with you. Dittos really arent that bad Snakeee since we both know how to use ZSS w/o spamming side b, it makes the fight more active and fast. In these dittos imo it's all about who can be more offensive than the other.
jibbyjaont
Smash Journeyman
Isn't the Dark Side Meta-Knight? He is the closest to Vader with the mask and all.
Snakeee
Smash Master
I really really suck at them no joke. I ended up 1 vs 1 against Wes in teams for a ZSS ditto and it didn't go so well >_>. I do much better with Sheik trust me on that
and don't call me Dark Snakeee bc it reminds me of Dark Pch -_-