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Official Ask Dark.Pch about Peach in Brawl *Day 4* New vids up

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Yeah, I don't understand why they nerfed it THAT much... but at least her parasol takes her higher and hits harder. =/
 
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Okay, I have Brawl. Dark Peach is getting a lot of ****, and I guess I can understand why. Don't say you're great. You can say you're decent, and people won't get too pissed, but saying you're great, or one of the great melee Peach's, or something like that, it'll piss people off.

With that said, Peach plays WAAAAAAY different in this version.

Bad news would be the lack of FC, but she doesn't really need it, as almost all of her moves auto-cancel. She can still nair to double-slap on shields, but you can now be grabbed between slaps.

The Peach bomber has been HELLA buffed. It's kind of crazy, to tell the truth. It can now kill, in conjunction to being used to tech-chase.

DJC is gone, but you can still do it, kind of. What you do is double-jump, then float at the desired height, then do your aerial. Works like a charm.

I don't know why people are saying she can't kill, either. Her Fsmash was buffed considerably, gaining projectile recovering properties, and the ability to kill at lower percents for current metagame. The golf club is particularly noticable, killing below 100 on some stages. Just don't spam moves like you used to, and you'll be fine. Dsmash is garbage. Anyone who says it's okay is lying to themselves. It has low knockback, and does very little damage when compared to it's Melee counterpart. While I might have exaggerated with calling it garbage (you can still use it to wrack up damage), it's nowhere near as useful.

For those complaining about her turnip throw distance, have you tried roll-cancelling? It allows her to throw further, in conjunction to following right behind her turnip, for some pretty good pressure options.

She hasn't been massively nerfed, just changed drastically. She can't currently compete with Marth on FD very well, but does alright on platform stages, in my opinion. I'll be doing more research whenever I have free time, and I'll help you guys out for a while, but I ~may~ end up switching mains.

Also, double-slap has wicked knockback.
 
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InterimOfZeal said:
Okay, I have Brawl. Dark Peach is getting a lot of ****, and I guess I can understand why. Don't say you're great. You can say you're decent, and people won't get too pissed, but saying you're great, or one of the great melee Peach's, or something like that, it'll piss people off.

With that said, Peach plays WAAAAAAY different in this version.

Bad news would be the lack of FC, but she doesn't really need it, as almost all of her moves auto-cancel. She can still nair to double-slap on shields, but you can now be grabbed between slaps.

The Peach bomber has been HELLA buffed. It's kind of crazy, to tell the truth. It can now kill, in conjunction to being used to tech-chase.

DJC is gone, but you can still do it, kind of. What you do is double-jump, then float at the desired height, then do your aerial. Works like a charm.

I don't know why people are saying she can't kill, either. Her Fsmash was buffed considerably, gaining projectile recovering properties, and the ability to kill at lower percents for current metagame. The golf club is particularly noticable, killing below 100 on some stages. Just don't spam moves like you used to, and you'll be fine. Dsmash is garbage. Anyone who says it's okay is lying to themselves. It has low knockback, and does very little damage when compared to it's Melee counterpart. While I might have exaggerated with calling it garbage (you can still use it to wrack up damage), it's nowhere near as useful.

For those complaining about her turnip throw distance, have you tried roll-cancelling? It allows her to throw further, in conjunction to following right behind her turnip, for some pretty good pressure options.

She hasn't been massively nerfed, just changed drastically. She can't currently compete with Marth on FD very well, but does alright on platform stages, in my opinion. I'll be doing more research whenever I have free time, and I'll help you guys out for a while, but I ~may~ end up switching mains.

Also, double-slap has wicked knockback.
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thanks for the info.....
i have one Q?
i want to know when her bomber attack finishes her foe
 
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Good to know that the Fsmash has indeed been buffed. ^_^

So when are those vids coming, DP?
 
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InterimOfZeal said:
Okay, I have Brawl. Dark Peach is getting a lot of ****, and I guess I can understand why. Don't say you're great. You can say you're decent, and people won't get too pissed, but saying you're great, or one of the great melee Peach's, or something like that, it'll piss people off.

With that said, Peach plays WAAAAAAY different in this version.

Bad news would be the lack of FC, but she doesn't really need it, as almost all of her moves auto-cancel. She can still nair to double-slap on shields, but you can now be grabbed between slaps.

The Peach bomber has been HELLA buffed. It's kind of crazy, to tell the truth. It can now kill, in conjunction to being used to tech-chase.

DJC is gone, but you can still do it, kind of. What you do is double-jump, then float at the desired height, then do your aerial. Works like a charm.

I don't know why people are saying she can't kill, either. Her Fsmash was buffed considerably, gaining projectile recovering properties, and the ability to kill at lower percents for current metagame. The golf club is particularly noticable, killing below 100 on some stages. Just don't spam moves like you used to, and you'll be fine. Dsmash is garbage. Anyone who says it's okay is lying to themselves. It has low knockback, and does very little damage when compared to it's Melee counterpart. While I might have exaggerated with calling it garbage (you can still use it to wrack up damage), it's nowhere near as useful.

For those complaining about her turnip throw distance, have you tried roll-cancelling? It allows her to throw further, in conjunction to following right behind her turnip, for some pretty good pressure options.

She hasn't been massively nerfed, just changed drastically. She can't currently compete with Marth on FD very well, but does alright on platform stages, in my opinion. I'll be doing more research whenever I have free time, and I'll help you guys out for a while, but I ~may~ end up switching mains.

Also, double-slap has wicked knockback.
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Nice info...
Does the Down smash still come out fast and have a lot of priority?
 
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InterimOfZeal said:
Okay, I have Brawl. Dark Peach is getting a lot of ****, and I guess I can understand why. Don't say you're great. You can say you're decent, and people won't get too pissed, but saying you're great, or one of the great melee Peach's, or something like that, it'll piss people off.

With that said, Peach plays WAAAAAAY different in this version.

Bad news would be the lack of FC, but she doesn't really need it, as almost all of her moves auto-cancel. She can still nair to double-slap on shields, but you can now be grabbed between slaps.

The Peach bomber has been HELLA buffed. It's kind of crazy, to tell the truth. It can now kill, in conjunction to being used to tech-chase.

DJC is gone, but you can still do it, kind of. What you do is double-jump, then float at the desired height, then do your aerial. Works like a charm.

I don't know why people are saying she can't kill, either. Her Fsmash was buffed considerably, gaining projectile recovering properties, and the ability to kill at lower percents for current metagame. The golf club is particularly noticable, killing below 100 on some stages. Just don't spam moves like you used to, and you'll be fine. Dsmash is garbage. Anyone who says it's okay is lying to themselves. It has low knockback, and does very little damage when compared to it's Melee counterpart. While I might have exaggerated with calling it garbage (you can still use it to wrack up damage), it's nowhere near as useful.

For those complaining about her turnip throw distance, have you tried roll-cancelling? It allows her to throw further, in conjunction to following right behind her turnip, for some pretty good pressure options.

She hasn't been massively nerfed, just changed drastically. She can't currently compete with Marth on FD very well, but does alright on platform stages, in my opinion. I'll be doing more research whenever I have free time, and I'll help you guys out for a while, but I ~may~ end up switching mains.

Also, double-slap has wicked knockback.
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Everything you said here is true. And when I said she cant really kill, I ment its hard to kill with her. She may have her Fsmash but its hard to set up for it, or if not that, just hard to like get kills easy with it.

And even when I say I am decent I still go through that crap, no matter what it is. People just dont like me wether I go with what they say or not. Oh well, nothing I can do about that sadly.

Firekid2 said:
Good to know that the Fsmash has indeed been buffed. ^_^

So when are those vids coming, DP?
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I got a few recorded. I might get some done 2day. but not that much cause I'll be busy with other stuff. But i'll try to get a few up.

airgemini said:
Nice info...
Does the Down smash still come out fast and have a lot of priority?
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Yes it does
 
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I'm sorry guys, I'm really tired and have lots to do. I had to set stuff up to get the vids from my tape to my PC. so I'll add them in the morning. I have alot of my Peach so 2morrow, i'll spend the morning getting those up.
 
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It comes out fast, the problem with is being that it's "priority" can be likened to the dair. It's not bad, but if anything strong that follows through meets up with it, you're pretty well ****ed.

Her Fair, Nair, Bomber, Usmash, and Bair all kill well, though not as well as Fsmash (which can kill Sheik at about 70% near the edge on FD with no DI, assuming you get a golf club, less on variables, of course). They aren't too hard to land, either. For killing after they've grabbed the edge, hover just above their recover range, and get ready to fair. Same with when they're shielding.
 
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InterimOfZeal said:
It comes out fast, the problem with is being that it's "priority" can be likened to the dair. It's not bad, but if anything strong that follows through meets up with it, you're pretty well ****ed.

Her Fair, Nair, Bomber, Usmash, and Bair all kill well, though not as well as Fsmash (which can kill Sheik at about 70% near the edge on FD with no DI, assuming you get a golf club, less on variables, of course). They aren't too hard to land, either. For killing after they've grabbed the edge, hover just above their recover range, and get ready to fair. Same with when they're shielding.
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The golf club has more KO potential than the pan?
Also does anyone know if the Peach Bomber can still be canceled by basically any attack?
Like how in Melee if you were going to use the bomber someone could hit you and interupt it.
 
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airgemini said:
The golf club has more KO potential than the pan?
Also does anyone know if the Peach Bomber can still be canceled by basically any attack?
Like how in Melee if you were going to use the bomber someone could hit you and interupt it.
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Oh yes that move can be cancelled.

My Friend played with Bowser against me.

I did the Peach bomber and he koppa clawed me after I did the attack. hearts came out so it connected with him, but the claw move got me.

I added a few vids up and I'm adding more now.

Check out my account if you wanna see them now. My account is "shade4611"

Oh and I found out today that Peach can still wall bomb. I thought she could not for when I tried and what other people said. But she can. I think I have that on vid of me doing it.

And her toad can kill. My friend killed me with it. so its a killing move now. Nice huh?
 
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"It" is dsmash. The golf club has waaaaaaay more KO potential than the pan or the tennis racket.

I dunno about the Bomber being interrupted by anything. I never was predicted before I did it, or punished.

Btw, wallbombing is gone, if no one knew that yet.

EDIT: lmfao, what are the chances of us both posting about wallbomb, and saying completely different things? How does wallbombing work?

Dark.Pch, is it possible that the koopa klaw has unflinchable frames, or counts as a disjointed hitbox?
 
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Well The wall bombing its kinda different...i think. I was up against the wall though and when I did it, she bouced off the wayy and I continued to do it a few times.

I beleive the Claw does has invinc frames when you do it in from of bowser. Cause if I'm correct, hearts only come out when you hit someting, not the air itself then fall. So it crashed with the claw and he got no damage, it did not stop the claw and I get tossed to the ground
 
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Dark.Pch said:
Oh yes that move can be cancelled.

My Friend played with Bowser against me.

I did the Peach bomber and he koppa clawed me after I did the attack. hearts came out so it connected with him, but the claw move got me.

I added a few vids up and I'm adding more now.

Check out my account if you wanna see them now. My account is "shade4611"

Oh and I found out today that Peach can still wall bomb. I thought she could not for when I tried and what other people said. But she can. I think I have that on vid of me doing it.

And her toad can kill. My friend killed me with it. so its a killing move now. Nice huh?
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The one with PT you were awesome! Which of the 3 gives you the hardest time?

The one with Sonic was awesome I laughed when the tennis racquet killed him.

Overall you seem much better!
You really like the dancing taunt...
And I cant believe the Bair does 22% total O.O...
 
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airgemini said:
The one with PT you were awesome! Which of the 3 gives you the hardest time?

The one with Sonic was awesome I laughed when the tennis racquet killed him.

Overall you seem much better!
You really like the dancing taunt...
And I cant believe the Bair does 22% total O.O...
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Thank you.

And what three are you talking about?

And that taunt is too good >____>

It does that much damage cause it hits twice. Same with her dash attack and Nair

Niko_K said:
I also noticed this in one of my other friendlies...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c359LV0OXK4
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Heh heh heh. Guess I was not the only one then.
 
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Yeah, kinda late but Bowser' F-B DOES have invinciblity frames.

Try it on some other move, plox.

Also, great vids. ^_^

Edit: Might as well ask now since no one has posted

So DP, now that you've played some more, do you feel more comfortable with Peach? Also, when you say that Peach can't kill anymore, you did take into account that everyone lives longer now, right? >_> It looked like you were killing at normal percents to me...
 
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Snakeee said:
Woohoo first Brawl vid with me playing. Good going Dark.
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Yea yea..........

hotgarbage said:
LOVED those videos :D. Thank you very much for posting them!
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Your Welcome:)

Firekid2 said:
Yeah, kinda late but Bowser' F-B DOES have invinciblity frames.

Try it on some other move, plox.

Also, great vids. ^_^

Edit: Might as well ask now since no one has posted

So DP, now that you've played some more, do you feel more comfortable with Peach? Also, when you say that Peach can't kill anymore, you did take into account that everyone lives longer now, right? >_> It looked like you were killing at normal percents to me...
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I nearly feel just about right with her. I still cant control her all that well. Which is why you would see me in videos haveing a hard time trying to get a hit of or I just start doing bad at some points.
And yes I take that to account. but its just harder to set up kills like I would in melee cause the game is different. So a large % of my tricks wont work in ths game. so I have to come up with new ones. until I do i'm gonna struggle alot. But not for long, I'll think of a style soon enough.
 
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