North American ONLINE Player Tier List

[Surri-Sama]

Naw thats a mean thing to do.

I always ASK before recording, never without permission

 

[Frogles]

while yesterdays matches were laggy bs, i think matts is a legit good player. hes kicked my *** without lag before and hes one of the few people that gives my fox trouble when im actually trying. he has some really stupid rolling habits but he does pretty well on dreamland. people just like to write him off because he trolls and uses kirby.

 

[Surri-Sama]

I played him in teams today but thats no inclination of how he plays these days.

I dunno how he gives the pros so much trouble, but i dont...yet his kirby and my pika are not far apart (if he is better)

 

[Near²]

near agrees with Frogles but thinks MATTS! would suit the highest B tier position instead of A tier

near's body is ready today to play smash

 

[DemonicInfluence]

kabal owns me when i dont play fox or falcon. When I do hes not that hard. He destroys jigglypuffs.

I honestly dont know where to put rawr.

Is this recent? Maybe you do better against MATTS! than a lot of other players do?

Honestly, whenever I see MATTS! vs A or B tier players, he wins the majority of the matches. =/
You're implying MATTS! is not a good player. This is where I have to call the bias.

Lol DemonicInfluence, MATTS! is on like everyday, how could you not see him? Especially with his constant trolling.

He's on, but I haven't played him, nor have I like seen him play. He apparently has lag or something??

 

[T1g3rbombz]

L33t i lead boom's list as #1 A TIER! hax

 

[The Star King]

@WOTG who are these A-tier people who lose to MATTS!, other than Sheer? Pretty sure most people nominated would beat him, considering I was able to beat him like a year ago when I was much worse than now. You just need to abuse his bad habits, like his roll spam.

 

[SheerMadness]

MATTS goes evenish with me. By no means does he have an advantage on me. And like I said I vote him for A Tier because he does better vs me than most of the other A Tier people.

I'm sure him playing broken *** kirby has a lot to do with it because he does have some really bad habits like rolling. But if this list is based off win/loss ratio he's pretty high on my list.

 

[WOTG]

@WOTG who are these A-tier people who lose to MATTS!, other than Sheer? Pretty sure most people nominated would beat him, considering I was able to beat him like a year ago when I was much worse than now. You just need to abuse his bad habits, like his roll spam.

You say that like it's impossible to beat someone that should be better than you.

 

[The Star King]

Uh but if he loses to every A-tier person consistently other than Sheer, it's pretty clear he doesn't belong there.

I think he's high B-tier.

 

[MATTS!]

The Phuck...?

Talking behide the great MATTS! back...?


I could line everybody up in this thread except malva00, and win 1 vs 1, over and over. *****. Including Boom. PWNED.

Im right under malva00. PWNED. 100%

And if you don't beleive me, first off ask boom to play me(since you guys rank him so high), he won't, cause he knows he will lose to me. He makes up some excuse that im on his "banned list" because he's afraid of me. If he ever did play me, you would see me consecutively beat him over and over. Now you can't hide boom, I just exposed your scared self habits. PWNED.


Thanks to the poeple giving me props, FROG, Sheer, WOTG, etc.(if i missed ya LOL.)

The Great MATTS!

 

[WOTG]

Uh but if he loses to every A-tier person consistently other than Sheer, it's pretty clear he doesn't belong there.

I think he's high B-tier.

Who recently confirmed this???

 

[SheerMadness]

Yah I dunno where he's getting that either...

 

[The Star King]

It's true that I don't know for sure that's how it goes down, but it's just that I find it hard to believe MATTS! would beat these people when I could beat him back when I was nowhere near A-Tier material.

Besides, if we're going to call each other out for saying stuff we can't prove, I'm gonna have to call you out on this:

Honestly, whenever I see MATTS! vs A or B tier players, he wins the majority of the matches. =/

Can you tell me who these people are?

 

[Near²]

near beat matts twice the other time with frogles

near is just saying and not totally forgetting the fact he got beat before those 2 games

 

[WOTG]

Okay, I didn't want to add names at first because I know how people's egos get hurt. But here's some examples.

MATTS! went 19-5 against Near and Frogles the other day

MATTS! won the majority of his matches vs Fireblaster and Nintendude on a livestream, I remember was back in early 2010?

I constantly see MATTS! consistently beating "B-Tier" players like Legendary (oh but you don't think Legendary is so tough).

I remember you being B-Tier material "back then". That's not that far off from A-Tier.

 

[The Star King]

If those people weren't sandbagging, and were using their mains (hm...) then I have to admit that's an impressive record (except Legendary lol why bring him up).

 

[Near²]

frogles was using link in dreamland

 

[WOTG]

If those people weren't sandbagging, and were using their mains (hm...) then I have to admit that's an impressive record (except Legendary lol why bring him up).

Why you hate legendary so much

frogles was using link in dreamland

Don't forget Falcon, Ness, and Fox... And numerous of your characters, and once with my Falcon.

inb4lagjohns the matches weren't too noticeably laggy until you started streaming.

Also, I'm not saying that MATTS! is better than these players. I'm saying I think MATTS! has earned A-Tier. If you some of you really don't believe so, than prove me wrong... really.

 

[The Star King]

Wut I don't hate Legendary

 

[Surri-Sama]

Why you hate legendary so much


Don't forget Falcon, Ness, and Fox... And numerous of your characters, and once with my Falcon.

inb4lagjohns the matches weren't too noticeably laggy until you started streaming.

Also, I'm not saying that MATTS! is better than these players. I'm saying I think MATTS! has earned A-Tier. If you some of you really don't believe so, than prove me wrong... really.

You are challenging something we said, burden of proof is on you.

OR you could just post your opinion and not challenge mine and shooting stars opinion of MATTS!! thats also an option!

 

[Battlecow]

Shut up Surri! If he was challenging an established viewpoint, the onus probandi would be on him. MATTS! is currently A-tier by the "official" (lol) list, so the burden of proof is, in fact, on you. Logic, ma boi.

 

[Surri-Sama]

Not really since Sheer also thinks MATTS! is higher then me and star and maybe a few others.

Lol "shut up"

He posted about not liking our lists (and MATTS! within it)

 

[Near²]

near just pwned shooting star in p2p

(jk won a couple games)

near was in a rush because of a party near has to attend

shooting star might be the next boomfan obv

 

[WOTG]

lol what Surri? I called out prejudice on people not voting MATTS! A-Tier. I only have eye-witness accounts. I haven't seen any of your recent accounts, other than you explaining past history. Knowing people can get better, stuff done from like 2008(which I'm sure it was around there) don't count.

On another note, you're right, we're just posting our "opinions", so if MATTS! gets voted B-Tier, that's what is said by "opinion" on an (lol official?) list, bias or not.

 

[Nintendude]

MATTS is like bottom of A tier imo. He rolls predictably but other than that he's solid, efficient, and knows how to capitalize on positional advantages. My matches with him are pretty back and forth and mainly depend on how well I'm playing at the moment and if I'm on my laptop or my desktop.

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

as Nintendude says.

He doesn't play technical but he is just solid. He is at the bottom of A tier, best Kirby since he knows how to abuse Kirby's moves more than any other person.

 

[th3kuzinator]

I am derailing this Matts conversation before his ego gets any bigger. If thats even possible.

1. Since hammerheart got on this thread like 5 ppl r now talking in the third person. Lol.

2. Since I had never played Peek before tonight I had no idea where to place him.
If I had to put him somewhere based on his win/loss percentage, it would be somewhere in b-tier.
If i had to place him in terms of characters skill, he would definitely be A-Tier. His tech skill and combo sense are amazing. If he was not trying to combo and be silly the whole game and just played to win he would be crazy.

I could only beat him like 3 times when my fox just ran away and spammed lazers. lol. hes too good imo.

I say he should still go a-tier.

 

[Surri-Sama]

lol what Surri? I called out prejudice on people not voting MATTS! A-Tier. I only have eye-witness accounts. I haven't seen any of your recent accounts, other than you explaining past history. Knowing people can get better, stuff done from like 2008(which I'm sure it was around there) don't count.

On another note, you're right, we're just posting our "opinions", so if MATTS! gets voted B-Tier, that's what is said by "opinion" on an (lol official?) list, bias or not.

All i ment was you where saying for us to prove MATTS! is not good.

But if you wanted to argue our positioning on MATTS! within our lists you would gave to give me more then just say "he beats pros" to change my mind

I understand your opinion is yours and i respect that

I'm still gona get some vids of me vs MATTS! Because like you said he might have truly started to get good in my absence

 

[thegreginator]

I dunno PD, all I see is bruised egos (yours and MattNF's) because you're not getting the votes/being placed where you want. I don't even know why you're so butthurt, only like 6-8 people got more A Tier votes than you. Like I said if you think you pwn all the people above you make your own list explaining how you do vs them. You still have yet to post anything productive in this thread.

We still haven't finished A Tier guys!! We still need opinions on these guys:

Firo
Peek
Star King
PD
Rawr/Marth
Kabal
MATTS


Which ones make A Tier? All of them/some of them? Should we just take PD off since he dislikes the Tier list so much?

I will challenge and beat literally every single person on that list. Seriously I agree with the sentiment that if you think you belong higher you should challenge and beat people so that's what I plan on doing.

Last time I played Kabal (about 2 months ago) we had some good matches but I won more than I lost. Last time I played Peek (a few days ago) I had a good winning record against his Ness. Last time I played MATTS (like a year ago) I won almost all of the games. I'm sure he's much better now though (as am I), I want to play him soon.

Also why the hell can't I host p2p??

EDIT: Post count is 64. Baller.

 

[Peek~]

Last time I played Kabal (about 2 months ago) we had some good matches but I won more than I lost. Last time I played Peek (a few days ago) I had a good winning record against his Ness. Last time I played MATTS (like a year ago) I won almost all of the games. I'm sure he's much better now though (as am I), I want to play him soon.

Also why the hell can't I host p2p??

EDIT: Post count is 64. Baller.

+1 vote for greg in A tier, I cant give an exact spot on where he should yet. Still playing people, but hes in there.

Also Rawr/Marth "quit" so you could probably take him out

 

[thegreginator]

+1 vote for greg in A tier, I cant give an exact spot on where he should yet. Still playing people, but hes in there.

<3

Lets record some matches soon

 

[Surri-Sama]

Greg we should play too!

i can host p2p and record

 

[NovaSmash]

i've seen videos of greginator on his youtube channel and he doesnt look anywhere near the people mentioned for A tier, maybe i'm missing something. I've also played him before awhile ago and i won a few, which is something i dont do against other A tier candidates.

 

[malva00]

if anyone wants to move up a tier or two, PayPal me $20, and I'll record and upload some matches of my kirby losing against you

PM me if you're interested

 

[The Star King]

MATTS is like bottom of A tier imo. He rolls predictably but other than that he's solid, efficient, and knows how to capitalize on positional advantages. My matches with him are pretty back and forth and mainly depend on how well I'm playing at the moment and if I'm on my laptop or my desktop.

Well, I did say top of B tier, so bottom of A tier isn't too far off. I'd be willing to accept bottom of A-tier since most people seem to be against me.

Lol malva

@thegreginator You've never played me, how would you know? =/

 

[Surri-Sama]

Common Greg, stop being a spotter dodger and play me D:

 

[ballin4life]

if anyone wants to move up a tier or two, PayPal me $20, and I'll record and upload some matches of my kirby losing against you

PM me if you're interested

Does this offer stand for CONSOLE?

 

[MATTS!]

Sheer, I do not want to be added to this "tier list" no matter where I am placed. Thanks.


The Great MATTS!

 

[Gammelnorsk]

matts is a man after my own heart i love u sweet boy