umm sidefx, nope. its about 50/50.
Are you going to post that you were wrong when you see the attendance on Saturday? SFSU got 50+ for BRAWL on Saturday. When was the last time NCB got that many for MELEE? Not to mention that SFSU's in general have had less attendance.
There is just no evidence that suggests that the Melee attendance will match the Brawl attendance. If you disagree feel free to link me to a Norcal Melee tourney in the last 2 months with comparable attendance.
brawl isnt fun to watch, melee is. that right there is super significant.
1: Subjectivity alert.
2: We all know that everyone at NCB's watches the finals instead of playing friendlies. Oh wait it's the other way around.
3: Clearly, what people want to WATCH is also the most important criterion for deciding which events to have, and not, you know, what people want to PLAY.
Give me a break.
Let's get something straight. You're the host. What you say goes, and people should realize that. But you're not the TO, so when you post schedules like that, you're kind of overstepping your expertise.
YOU have to make it clear what the TO's are allowed to do at the tourney in terms of TV setups, what tourneys can be held, etc.
you heard wrong boback, i IMed 10 or 15 people about what they play, what they prefer, and such.
it was about 40/40/20 for melee/brawl/love both.
I'm sure your sample of people was representative of the community and free of selection bias. Anecdotal evidence is invalid.
THIS IS A MELEE TOURNEY!!!!!!!
i am NOT interested in hosting brawl tourneys, because i have limited fun playing brawl, and i do NOT at all enjoy watching brawl being played (where half the fun of the biweeklies for me was watching the good people playing their matches).
As much as it frustrates me, I think people need to consider that Nick is the host and he has the final say. I mean you don't go into every other thread and demand a Melee tourney should be Brawl or vice versa right?
The only difference is that Nick is the host, not the TO. Therefore he is beholden to whomever shows up to run the events in question.
The real gripe I have is that these are being called Norcal biweeklies, when it's far from evident that this is what the Norcal Smash scene desires. Nick you've said it yourself that this is Melee because YOU don't like Brawl and YOU don't have fun watching it. So I take issue with using the NCB name, when in the past, the NCB host (Kizzo) let the events be up to the TO's and the people that showed up to play.
If you want these events to be your own Melee clubhouse, then fine, you're the host and you can do what you want. But don't pretend that they aren't and then only have Brawl events to try to make everyone happy (which is always in vain).
i am ALLOWING brawl events because a select few (pretty much boback, sheridan, and zoap) have put a lot of pressure on me to do so. in fact, a majority of the community doesnt even really care so much which is played to my experience, just so long as we have regular things.
Show me where I "put pressure on you." I think I've even said before that you can do what you want because it's 'your' venue (or at least you're responsible for it). I HAVE said that I'm not going to show up to run a Melee tournament, and almost every other TO that has ever come to an NCB feels the same way.
from now on, can we not just assume that a majority of the people coming prefer brawl? because i really dont see any evidence of this.
See my first paragraphs. But the only way to know for sure will be to hold the biweekly (which will actually artificially inflate the Melee numbers if you hold Brawl btw, because you will get incidental Melee players from people who show up for Brawl, whereas Brawl is less likely to get incidental players from Melee attendees).
if the first event happens and its really looking like nor cal just isnt so interested in melee anymore, THEN we can talk. but if i can still hold together reasonable melee tourneys, and still have brawl events at them, wouldnt that actually satisfy the most people?
Do what you want.
BTW, the only reason Brawl gets so many more attendees than Melee is because so many old Melee players play Brawl just because social norms dictate that if you want to go to tournaments.
Even if that were true it doesn't change the fact that Brawl demand is higher as evidenced by turnout numbers in both Socal and Norcal.
I shouldn't of bothered responding.
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