i say jadakiss needs to be there cause his flow is phenomenal (flownomenal LOL{boondocks reference}) lol. his content is still on that mainstream bullsh.t. materialistic, misogynistic, self defeating, stereotypical, violent, pretty ignorant, and above all EGOTISTICAL. but somewhat makes up for it in delivery. who am i kidding, he primarily makes up for in delivery. his word play, lyricism, is raw as hell. but that should NOT make up for the artist lack of content.
I think other areas of rap perfection can make up for lack of content... as long as there's SOME kind of depth about their content. I mean come on, I think Lil Wayne is one of the best rappers there is, period, and he's pretty ****ing ignant sometimes, but he also has his Georgia Bush moments.
To be honest I haven't got into Jadakiss AT ALL because I don't know what I should get from him. My opinion has been tainted cuz before I got into rap I held that "yo Jada is an ignant mainstream rapper -- he's good, but just for a MAINSTREAM RAPPER," but now someone's opinion I really expect (Joe Budden
) ranks Jada quite high, so I feel like I should. Tell me what to get
reason why i hold murs so high is cause he raps like he's living on plant earth (figure of speech). he has a family, needs to support then, relationship issues, pays bills, enjoys traveling, can go clubing, appreciates his fans, reps where he's from (but not sayin if you walk down crenshaw you'll get ****ed up, i'm refering to" L.A." neighborhood p, i know you like that song homie.), etc. but he also has his somewhat "gangster" songs with "walk like a man." point being, i CANNOT relate to a person selling crack, driving in bently's (sp?), wearing the finest clothes from france/japan, rare sneakers (which is actually attainable now lol), killing your fellow man...NOR can most of the people who listen and SUPPORT that rap artist. pretty much lyricism and delivery does not make a rapper (it's definitely necessary though). i believe diversity is key to a rap artist as well...
i hate murs. well, i don't HATE, i just don't really like him, and i think he's really hit-and-miss. see, i've listened to SOOOO MUCH ****ing music that i have become jaded of sorts of the whole typical "conscious" tip for lack of a better word. i've heard people rapping about the family, relationship, etc. etc. in so many BETTER WAYS that it's like, there's very little you can do that will make me be in awe JUST BECAUSE of what you're saying. instead you have to do it better than everyone else. if you can do WHATEVER you focus on better than everyone else, i will love you. all i ask for is the highest quality, and i can relate to any kind of subject manner. i can relate to people, i've pretty much been there mentally or can easily understand how i could be there mentally if i was ever in that environment. so it's not a "wow i can relate to you you're so good" mentality, it's a "you're so ****ing good at your craft and you're so good because you talk about this and this in a way that's never been done before." all in all a great rapper talking about personal issues and life and society is > than a great rapper talking about drugs and kilos and *****es (though you can easily slant a conscious tip on the drug thing, as clipse occasionally does), but it's not a make-or-break thing for me as it was. believe me, i used to hate the ignant stuff.
a little while ago i was going to say that man is the best rapper but one of my friends opened to my eyes to what i just said, content is lacking. PLUS, we don't know what he would be in this day since he doesn't have enough material out to truly know if he would go with the times or keep to himself, his own style.
pssh, content is overrated. there are so many ways you can get that content fill. well anyway i ended up listening to so much rap that it was like, i just need to hear GREATNESS. pure and utter greatness, and who am i to filter it out and say that it has to be about substantiated topics? who substantiates them? who validates them? MYSELF. I do. It's what you get out of it. And I can get nearly as much out of whatever they're talking about. The fact is the rappers who are rapping about Big L are simply better from a pure lyrical standpoint, usually better with flow, usually better with just that **** that just bangs. The beats are usually better, the style is just harder, it's RAW. If you can't appreciate that RAWness, regardless what they're talking about, then you can't appreciate rap.
the conscious tracks are usually real good, and enjoyable listens..but there are other artist, maybe not with more attractive deliveries, but definitely with more positive and diverse content, and with great lyricism as well. which allows them to be above those artist you just mentioned and higher on "best of all time" list.
Rap is too good, too complicated IMO to just start subjugating it to your own little things. I try to view it all as great art, and it's not up to me to interpret what content is acceptable or not. It's up to me to interpret what is great and why it is great. It's a give and take thing; rap is so diverse in what you can be good at that you just can't find it all in little boxes. So under the "conscious" box you get more of the powerful lyrics, but you're usually losing something in the "boom bap" department. That **** just won't BANG like a mother ****ing Skyzoo joint. And that braggadocious flow is just unmatched. It's almost impossible to find a rapper that can do it ALL, but I think Phonte, Joe Budden, Supastition, and One Be Lo are the ones who do that. Pretty much the only ones.
Celph Titled raps about THE SAME THING every time, but he does it so creatively, so well, SO CONSISTENTLY,
every single time, every single verse, that he's just undoubtedly the best to me.
PS: plus P i just went over one of my boy's house we were listening to masta ace, outkast, slum village, 50 cent (get rich of die tryin), eminem, murs, rza's new album (bobby something, they keep telling me 'i really need to listen to it' i haven't gotten to it yet), and a few others. and in the talk we had i was inspired to say a little more lol.
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