No More Heroes: Desperate Struggle (NMH2) Is GO!

[VaneWalker]

No More Hehroes 2 was just announced. Heres a link
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/41032.html

 

[Saki Zatoichi]

Ahem:

YES YES YES! HOLY **** YES, **** YES, OH MY ****ING GOD YES! BEST GAME OF ALL TIME! SEQUEL. I'M SPEECHLESS. **** **** **** **** I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY NO ****ING MORE ****ING HEROES ****ING 2!

K.

 

[Circus]

Cool. The first game was pretty decent, so this has my attention.

I hope it improves upon the first though. It was far from a perfect game.

Also, I'm kind of hoping they work in some kind of crazy loophole to change Travis' name. I've always hated it. >_>

 

[Gates]

KICK ***!

I loved the first one, especially the combat, the boss battles, and all the quirkiness. It had a bunch of issues, like the overly large and boring overworld, but I'm sure those will be addressed.

I hope they bring back Destroyman for this one. Or at least someone else who shoots lasers out of his crotch.

 

[tirkaro]

HOLY BALLFARTS, HELLZ YEAH!

first S&P2, then Punchout Wii, now a new NMH!? Jesus christ, nintendo must want me to go broke.

 

[Bowser King]

People better buy this game >_>
I know I am....
-Bowser King

 

[Saki Zatoichi]

How is Destroyman going to come back? Just look at what happened to him...

And last night made my entire week. The new Resident Evil 5 trailer was too **** good, then a sequel to the best game of all time is announced. And on top of that, Sin & Punishment 2 was announced last weekend.

 

[Gates]

How is Destroyman going to come back? Just look at what happened to him...

I know. It was just wishful thinking.

 

[Chis]

YES!

 

[K64]

Greaat, more Suda on the Wii. Just great.

 

[Numa Dude]

They better let us fight the chick in the trailer. If they pull another Helter Skelter on us..... I'm going to be very upset.

 

[kr3wman]

I will buy this on the day it comes out.

Mark my WORDS!

 

[Darkslash]

(Wii motion+) +(No more heroes)=awesome ness no equation can find.

 

[XACE-K]

I'm somewhat excited about this. I tried the first one hoping it was good but I found it okay. Hopefully I'll like this one better than the first.

 

[Sliq]

 

[VaneWalker]

Wow you....

 

[Gates]

hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooly **** that's a giant image.

 

[Icy_Eagle]

Wow you....

Why the heck did you quote that post!?

 

[Pikminmaniac]

The First No More Heroes was quite a dissapointment. It has style and I loved the ending, but the actual game was riddled with flaws. The overworld was terrible, the bike controls were awful, and the missions got worse and worse right after Destroy Man. There was too much untapped potential. I think Suda is making a sequel to make this series what it should have been in the first place. The fighting was pretty entertaining, however. It lands around a 6.5/10 for me. It felt rushed.

 

[derek.haines]

I appreciated that they tried to break up the fighting with the overworld, but it was incredibly poorly implemented. It was the singularly worst part of the game. It was half the game, and it was broken.

Fix that, and you've probably got a 9.0 or higher on your hands.

 

[The Executive]

Agreed. NMH overworld sucked, to be honest. Nothing to do besides traverse massive stretches of land to get from point A to point B. (see Wind Waker)

 

[ZeroFox]

Thank God, NMH was such an amazing game.

 

[The Executive]

Is that Misato at the top of the page?

 

[Sliq]

The First No More Heroes was quite a dissapointment. It has style and I loved the ending, but the actual game was riddled with flaws. The overworld was terrible, the bike controls were awful, and the missions got worse and worse right after Destroy Man. There was too much untapped potential. I think Suda is making a sequel to make this series what it should have been in the first place. The fighting was pretty entertaining, however. It lands around a 6.5/10 for me. It felt rushed.

Here's a man who didn't find out a lot of the secrets of the game.

 

[Firus]

Sliq, I won't quote you (epic screen stretch for the epically idiotic fail), but you put a picture with explicit language in it and uber screen stretched for an image with splattered blackness and "No More Heroes" written on it. That image was incredibly unnecessary, and that's the one that caused the screen stretch.

Also, the other one was pointless.

Wow you....

Congrats on quoting the epic fail post and screen stretching this page, too.

Here's a man who didn't find out a lot of the secrets of the game.

Here's a totally biased fanboy of No More Heroes. And all > fanboys.

From what he said, I see nothing that implies what he did in the game. All I see is you assuming that anyone thinking poorly of the game MUST have done something wrong.

Perhaps there is a clue, so don't flame me if I'm wrong -- I've never played the game. But I do intend to rent it. Not buy it, I don't imagine it'll really be that great, but I'll rent it so I can try it out so I can bring something to conversations of it. And if it's bad like I imagine, I can finally yell at people for praising it so intensely without it just being my assumptions. If it's actually good, then great.

 

[Sliq]

Sliq, I won't quote you (epic screen stretch for the epically idiotic fail), but you put a picture with explicit language in it and uber screen stretched for an image with splattered blackness and "No More Heroes" written on it. That image was incredibly unnecessary, and that's the one that caused the screen stretch.

I didn't realize people could get butthurt over something so inconsequential. The more you know.

Also, the other one was pointless.

As is this post.

Congrats on quoting the epic fail post and screen stretching this page, too.

Thanks, but you seem to be contradictory. First you're mad because I stretched it, and now you're practically high fiving me for it. You should stop sending mixed signals. The key to any strong relationship is good communication.

Here's a totally biased fanboy of No More Heroes. And all > fanboys.

It's funny how the "fanboys" are usually the people who know the most about the game ("lol your a fanboy because someone called Smash a shallow party game and you knew they were wrong because you know how to l-cancel, dash dance, wavedash, and attend very competitive tournaments"; see what I did there a-hole?).

Seeing as how I played the game, a lot, and know a lot about it, I'm able to understand why someone would say it wasn't a good game. If you remove the stuff that is slightly hidden, it is easy to see it as such. However, I KNOW better because I am aware of the "hidden" stuff.

For the sake of argument, No More Heroes has stuff in it tantamount to wavedash, l-canceling, and dash dancing in terms of things in the game that the game doesn't tell you about, like shadow stepping, flash shielding, and certain combos. Not to mention that each boss has a Megaman-esque elemnt to them that if you have the right "weapon," you can put a serious hurt on them. For example, I hear people complain about the Shinobu boss fight being really hard when, after you figure out the "trick," it becomes easier. I enjoy that sort of thing. I enjoy figuring out little "tricks" like that, and No More Heroes has a lot of them.

Also, anybody that complains about the little sidemissions like grass mowing and scorpion collecting is ********. Those things LITERALLY last 2 minutes EACH. They are over with before they even begin.

The overworld navigation I'll give you for being bad, but it at least served a few purposes.

From what he said, I see nothing that implies what he did in the game. All I see is you assuming that anyone thinking poorly of the game MUST have done something wrong.

Actually, I assume most people lack the patience and attention span to fully explore a game before "rating" it, which is irritating considering most people are completely unaware of certain gameplay elements. For example, my one friend thought Shinobi for the PS2 sucked because he couldn't control the fighting. He didn't know it had a lock-on system. I'm not arguing that Shinobi was good (I did enjoy it, though), I'm arguing that people like to jump the gun on judgement.

Also, I am hardly ever wrong at anything, EVER. If you don't know who I am you may want to back down, because a lot of people will corroborate this.

Perhaps there is a clue, so don't flame me if I'm wrong -- I've never played the game.

It's people like you that ruin everything. Jumping in without an effing clue what you're talking about.

But I do intend to rent it. Not buy it, I don't imagine it'll really be that great, but I'll rent it so I can try it out so I can bring something to conversations of it.

I don't imagine you'll be employed in anything other than food service.


Also, yes, that would be nice if you knew what you were talking about before you opened your mouth.

And if it's bad like I imagine, I can finally yell at people for praising it so intensely without it just being my assumptions.

Yes, because you aren't already doing that. Wouldn't it be dandy if you wouldn't have to make assumptions about things? Then you would have knowledge and junk.

If it's actually good, then great.

You'll hate it just for the sake of not liking something someone else you disagree with likes. Also, I'm sure you won't play long enough to actually delve into the depth, so don't hold your breath.

I bet your favorite band is Fallout Boy.

 

[Sworddancer9034]

In NMH, there was some occasional lag in the overworld, the overworld itself was bland and boring, the motocycle controls kinda sucked, and the combat as well as the bosses became a little repetitive toward the end.

Yet... yet I f***ing loved NMH. The combat was really, really fun, even if a little repetitive, the combat control worked well, the characters (especially the bosses) were original and humorous, speaking of humor, the game was very funny, the story was crazy awsome, there were lots of extras, and the side jobs were FUN and made a clever use of the wiimote, I can't see why anyone would hate on them.

Oh, and another thing I loved was the violence. :smiliegor

So yeah, I'm excited for NMH2.

 

[ShaolinAce]

One of my fabourite Wii games. Sure the world was a ghostown and the fighting was repetative. BUT WHO CARES? The game was awesome and it had so much style. I mean the gore was insane for a wii game and I love the language.

I'm sooo excited for this game Siked! They will do better I know they will and it will be game of the year.

I'm only on Rank 5 though. Need to play later and rap this beast before I touch spoilers.

 

[Red Exodus]

I haven't even gotten around to the first one yet. I still have to get RE4, GTAVI, and some other games first.

 

[Drclaw411]

dang...i really need to play no more heroes and gears of war before their sequels come out

 

[Firus]

I didn't realize people could get butthurt over something so inconsequential. The more you know.

Except…it’s more than annoying to have an extreme screen stretch so you can post a picture with no purpose. If it has a purpose, then it’s one thing. But it contributed nothing to the thread.
By the way, I had to go into Microsoft Word to type this reply because the screen stretch is so irksome.

As is this post.

Tell yourself whatever you want.

Thanks, but you seem to be contradictory. First you're mad because I stretched it, and now you're practically high fiving me for it. You should stop sending mixed signals. The key to any strong relationship is good communication.

…What? I was yelling at the other guy for screen-stretching this page too. I never so much as gave you a single bit of credit for screen-stretching. I really don’t know where you got that from. Unless you somehow thought the sarcastic "congrats" to the other guy was directed towards you and was serious...?

It's funny how the "fanboys" are usually the people who know the most about the game ("lol your a fanboy because someone called Smash a shallow party game and you knew they were wrong because you know how to l-cancel, dash dance, wavedash, and attend very competitive tournaments"; see what I did there a-hole?).

No. There’s a difference between a fanatic and a fanboy. Fanboys are idiots who love the game at all costs and flame any opposition. I should know, I used to be a huge Nintendo fanboy and totally against anything Xbox, especially Halo. I wouldn’t accept anything with the Xbox, and wouldn’t even TOUCH Halo. There’s a time to love a game, console, or company, and a time to accept others' opinions or at least respect them and not tell them they didn’t play the game well enough.

Thus your analogy fails, and calling me an "a-hole" was unnecessary and only makes me feel better about yelling at you.

Seeing as how I played the game, a lot, and know a lot about it, I'm able to understand why someone would say it wasn't a good game. If you remove the stuff that is slightly hidden, it is easy to see it as such. However, I KNOW better because I am aware of the "hidden" stuff.

So…you’re psychic, mirite? You’re saying that since you’ve played the game, you know that ANYONE who disliked it automatically did something wrong, didn’t play the game right, etc.? And that you know exactly what the “problem” was? At LEAST respect them enough to ask before you make assumptions, and deflate your ego a little bit and stop assuming you are all-knowing because you love the game and know it well.

For the sake of argument, No More Heroes has stuff in it tantamount to wavedash, l-canceling, and dash dancing in terms of things in the game that the game doesn't tell you about, like shadow stepping, flash shielding, and certain combos. Not to mention that each boss has a Megaman-esque elemnt to them that if you have the right "weapon," you can put a serious hurt on them. For example, I hear people complain about the Shinobu boss fight being really hard when, after you figure out the "trick," it becomes easier. I enjoy that sort of thing. I enjoy figuring out little "tricks" like that, and No More Heroes has a lot of them.

Yes, they are nice, just as I love Super Metroid for things like wall jumping, single wall jumping, infinite bomb jumping, mockballing, etc. But unfortunately, if you don't enjoy the basic game it doesn't matter if there are great tricks and extras for you to do. If you love sports games and only sports games, you're not going to enjoy Super Metroid, advanced techniques (for lack of a better term) or not. You seem to be ignoring that fact.

Also, anybody that complains about the little sidemissions like grass mowing and scorpion collecting is ********. Those things LITERALLY last 2 minutes EACH. They are over with before they even begin.

The overworld navigation I'll give you for being bad, but it at least served a few purposes.

I haven't played the game, so I can't judge for myself. But if there are enough stupid side missions, they could get annoying, and it interrupts the flow of gameplay. You can't deny that that could be annoying. Nor can you deny that it could affect someone's experience regardless. I love it when people tell others their opinion is WRONG.

Actually, I assume most people lack the patience and attention span to fully explore a game before "rating" it, which is irritating considering most people are completely unaware of certain gameplay elements. For example, my one friend thought Shinobi for the PS2 sucked because he couldn't control the fighting. He didn't know it had a lock-on system. I'm not arguing that Shinobi was good (I did enjoy it, though), I'm arguing that people like to jump the gun on judgement.

Assuming that everyone rates a game before knowing anything about it is basically stereotyping. And stereotyping fails, and is always inaccurate, and if you do stereotype people you end up being rather ignorant. So it's plausible, but again, ASK the guy if he did first. You just come off as arrogant if you assume things.

Also, I am hardly ever wrong at anything, EVER. If you don't know who I am you may want to back down, because a lot of people will corroborate this.

...No. I don't give a crap who you are, how often you're right, etc. You have me close to vomiting with that statement. That is incredibly arrogant.

It doesn't matter who you are, this is a forum. Don't act higher than me, I'm not acting higher than you.
I don't care how often you're right. I really don't. Even if you are right, you're still being a jerk and a fanboy about it, which is my entire problem.
And no, I will not back down. Nice try, though.

It's people like you that ruin everything. Jumping in without an effing clue what you're talking about.

...What? Yeah, nice. I just asked you politely NOT to flame me and there you go.
I TOLD you that I haven't played the game. So you know that if I'm saying I imagine it's bad it's speculation. And otherwise, I said nothing other than yelling at you for automatically flaming the guy for disliking the game and assuming you know why he hates it, and it's not that he doesn't like the game, but in a fault of his own. So I absolutely have a clue what I'm talking about.

I don't imagine you'll be employed in anything other than food service.

Okay, could you please tell me what's wrong with you?

Not only did I not even MENTION employment, but that was completely unnecessary. What I said may not have been nice, but I thought your posts were rather idiotic. And unless I was profusely flaming you there's no reason for you to imply that my future is doomed. You're just...seriously. You're a jerk.

Also, yes, that would be nice if you knew what you were talking about before you opened your mouth.

Again, I said NOTHING about the game. You're obviously just trying to say that everything I said was stupid because I haven't played the first game. Seriously, review my comments. The ONLY thing I said that was even related to what the game's like is speculation that it's bad, because I heard raving reviews about it from Nintendo Power which claimed how it was so great because it was gory, bloody, and M-rated. Which is a stupid reason for a game to be good.

Other than SPECULATION (which apparently isn't allowed), I said nothing about the game. I even admitted that I could be wrong (a concept which seems so foreign to the always-right Sliq) that what he said lacks evidence that he didn't explore secrets of the game. So stop telling me that I'm not allowed to speak in a No More Heroes 2 topic because I haven't played the original. You're just being ridiculous and trying to unfairly discredit me.

Yes, because you aren't already doing that. Wouldn't it be dandy if you wouldn't have to make assumptions about things? Then you would have knowledge and junk.

No, I'm not. I frown upon people saying the game is awesome because it doesn't seem like it would be. It's called "speculation", and it's the type of speaking one does when they don't have infinite money and aren't intrigued enough by a game to buy it.

You'll hate it just for the sake of not liking something someone else you disagree with likes. Also, I'm sure you won't play long enough to actually delve into the depth, so don't hold your breath.

Way to do precisely what you just criticized me for, making assumptions (although I didn't actually do that and present it as fact as you are) without knowing what the hell I'm talking about.

Are you referring to...please tell me you're not THAT arrogant that you think that I'll hate the game just to spite YOU. You're the last person I'd give a second thought to.

Also, you don't even know what kind of person I am. About a week ago, I played Cave Story for the first time to see what the ravings were about and I, quite frankly, hated it after a few minutes. But a day or two later, I kept playing just to make sure I had gotten a full feel of it. I got addicted to it and found it was actually very fun, and went from hardly ready to download the game to ready to buy it on WiiWare when it comes out. Ask Chief Mendez if you don't believe me. Will I go into it expecting it to be poor? Yes. But I'm not a fanboy (unlike you), I won't hate it no matter what. If it's good, I'll enjoy it. If it's bad, I'll dislike it. And if I spend money on the game, since I must be employed in food service, I better make good use of it. So I'll likely end up playing it as much as possible for as long as I have it rented (unless the game is unbearably crappy, which I don't imagine it would be THAT bad).

I bet your favorite band is Fallout Boy.

...No, I pretty much despise Fall Out Boy. Talk about making assumptions yet again, Mr. Hypocrite.

 

[Darkslash]

So any ways after that page stretching which was called FirustheHedgehog ownage.....

I have come to the conclusion that Gamers don't have a lot of Patience...OR at least that what bishop the guy at the local blockbuster said. So I'm at the counter and i release i got no money. I was seriously broke! Why? Becuase i remember the whole intro up to the drifter...

any ways, the Tsubaki MK III is supposedly the first Beam Katana you get. Which could mean that your going to be unstoppable OR the MK III becomes the new Blood Berry. Then that could mean that enemies may as well be armed with the blood berry, which means Beam Katana battles FTW!!!!.

EDIT: Who seriously wants to fight

Spoiler

yer twin brother Sir m***** ****ing

Henry? He was an awesome fight and he has one of the best instant kill moves.

 

[Sliq]

Internet fight, Round 2!

Except…it’s more than annoying to have an extreme screen stretch so you can post a picture with no purpose. If it has a purpose, then it’s one thing. But it contributed nothing to the thread.
By the way, I had to go into Microsoft Word to type this reply because the screen stretch is so irksome.

Get a monitor with better resolution? I did it on purpose for the sole purpose of being mildly annoying, on the grounds that I thought it was funny that the image was so huge, and felt others could also see the humor in it.

I of course also figured someone would go all INTERNET: SERIOUS BUSINESS all over the place, and was preparing for the ensuing internet fight.

Furthermore, you can just hide my post completely circumventing the whole problem.

Regardless, the internet is not serious business, no matter how hard you try to make it such.

Tell yourself whatever you want.

Ok.

…What? I was yelling at the other guy for screen-stretching this page too. I never so much as gave you a single bit of credit for screen-stretching. I really don’t know where you got that from. Unless you somehow thought the sarcastic "congrats" to the other guy was directed towards you and was serious...?

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No. There’s a difference between a fanatic and a fanboy. Fanboys are idiots who love the game at all costs and flame any opposition. I should know, I used to be a huge Nintendo fanboy and totally against anything Xbox, especially Halo. I wouldn’t accept anything with the Xbox, and wouldn’t even TOUCH Halo. There’s a time to love a game, console, or company, and a time to accept others' opinions or at least respect them and not tell them they didn’t play the game well enough

This is assuming we use your definition of fanatic and fanboy, but for the sake of argument I'll concede on this nitpickery.

Also, I don't have to accept any opinions. I "tolerate" others opinions. Also, I like how you like went all crazy after an offhand comment given by someone who isn't even here anymore.

Thus your analogy fails, and calling me an "a-hole" was unnecessary and only makes me feel better about yelling at you.

No, it doesn't. It's actually more relevant given that the techniques I'm talking about in NMH were directly programmed in there for there purposes, but were not explicitly explained in the game. Melee's are way more obscure.

The game is great, but with this little tricks it transcends to ****ing awesome. But yeah, I see where the analogy could be confusing (note: I don't).

Also, I'm glad at some point you felt bad about exploding a little comment into a huge thing for seemingly no reason.

So…you’re psychic, mirite? You’re saying that since you’ve played the game, you know that ANYONE who disliked it automatically did something wrong, didn’t play the game right, etc.? And that you know exactly what the “problem” was? At LEAST respect them enough to ask before you make assumptions, and deflate your ego a little bit and stop assuming you are all-knowing because you love the game and know it well.

There is a difference between playing the game "right," and breezing through it, and not utilizing the depth it gives you. It's like we're playing two completely different games.

I'm saying that from a standpoint of not being aware of all the nuances, I understand how someone can rate it lower. The reason I am so certain of his lack of knowledge about these things is because I didn't learn about any of this stuff until like my 3rd time through when I stumbled upon it. I doubt he played through it 3 times, let alone as many as I have (lost count).

See, people unaware of art can look at a Picasso work and think, "This is lame, it's all cubey and doesn't even look real," whereas say, an EXPERT, would be able to easily argue against that by pointing out the purpose of the forced perspective and the utilization of different elements of art and design. Of course, your average person would have no idea what the golden ratio is or the importance of hue juxtaposition, but someone like me would. SAME EXACT THING.

It should be noted that I am not claiming the NMH is a work of art, it was just an analogy. I could've just as easily used the electoral college in my analogy, stating that they get final say in the president because of a better understanding of the government, while still respecting the voters' whishes (i.e. understanding how it could be rated low, but knowing moreso to point out potential flaws in the rating/voting of the person in question).

Yes, they are nice, just as I love Super Metroid for things like wall jumping, single wall jumping, infinite bomb jumping, mockballing, etc. But unfortunately, if you don't enjoy the basic game it doesn't matter if there are great tricks and extras for you to do. If you love sports games and only sports games, you're not going to enjoy Super Metroid, advanced techniques (for lack of a better term) or not. You seem to be ignoring that fact.

No, NMH is awesome without it. The delivery, the style, the characters, it is all great. People just over weigh the 2 minute side missions and the overworld navigation, like it completely ruins the game (note: it doesn't even come close to ruining it). But when you add this extra **** in, it like turns into solid gold.

I haven't played the game, so I can't judge for myself. But if there are enough stupid side missions, they could get annoying, and it interrupts the flow of gameplay. You can't deny that that could be annoying. Nor can you deny that it could affect someone's experience regardless. I love it when people tell others their opinion is WRONG.

Yet you already are, based off of people applauding it, which is weird.

There are 9 sub missions, which all have humorous moments in them, and they all last around 2 minutes. They are near impossible to fail. at the most, you play these missions for 20 minutes of the total game time of several hours.

Next you have assassination side missions, which implement the standard gameplay, but with different mission styles and almost 0 exposition. This is fun for when you want to just wail on people and earn money to buy ****.

And no, it isn't annoying. It adds to the story. The dude is a ****ing ASSASSIN, but in order to actually assassinate someone, he has to earn enough money by pumping gas. That is awesome and hilarious.

Also, others' opinions can be WRONG, mostly based around ignorance of the subject matter. I think Obama is unfit to be president because he is black. Yeah, I find that opinion wrong and will not respect it, but I will tolerate it.

Assuming that everyone rates a game before knowing anything about it is basically stereotyping. And stereotyping fails, and is always inaccurate, and if you do stereotype people you end up being rather ignorant. So it's plausible, but again, ASK the guy if he did first. You just come off as arrogant if you assume things.

Yeah, I am sterotyping based off of personal observation. Everyone does it. It only fails when people act upon them. I'm hardly acting upon them, so much as maybe piquing this dudes interest in knowing the hidden stuff to maybe re-evaluate the game and play it again. I know, I'm Satan.

All stereotypes are based in the truth. Otherwise, a stereotype would never form. I'm simply playing the odds that this dude played straight through the game, did almost 0 side quests, and just mashed a instead of actually thinking. Stereotype, yes, but I am very confident that I am correct, simply because if you don't like a game, you don't play it a lot. And if he didn't play it a lot, he missed a lot which may make him rethink his position.

Also, about me being arrogant: welcome to Smashboards/the Internet. Enjoy your stay!

...No. I don't give a crap who you are, how often you're right, etc. You have me close to vomiting with that statement. That is incredibly arrogant.

****, you are like the master of hyperbole. It was sarcasm, dip****. This is the internet, where business isn't serious. Almost all of my post are narcissistic, pessimistic, and sarcastic. That is how I post on the internet. Also, it was pretty clear that I wasn't being serious in this post. I can't believe you think people this arrogant are alive. You should consider suicide before your stupid developes into a contagious cancer that kills everyone in the world.

It doesn't matter who you are, this is a forum. Don't act higher than me, I'm not acting higher than you.
I don't care how often you're right. I really don't. Even if you are right, you're still being a jerk and a fanboy about it, which is my entire problem.
And no, I will not back down. Nice try, though.

Dude, by simply arguing with me, you are saying, "I believe you are wrong and I am right," which is the core for holier-than-thou attitudes.

Also, I am a jerk about everything, unless you know that I am being mostly facetious, in which case it becomes endlessly entertaining to stumble upon me yelling at some moron and him yelling back.

Also, even if I were a fanboy, you are stereotyping me as such, which is funny, because you claimed stereotypes fail while I embrace them.

This is the thing I HATE the most about forums. People not disagreeing with what I am saying, but disagreeing with the way I say it. You're not arguing against any of the valid points I'm making, you are making it your job to point out that I must be wrong because I'm a big ol' meanie. =(

It's people like you that make me want to light people on fire through the internet.

Also, I'm certain that you will back down, not admitting defeat, but growing weary of the pointlessness of this argument. I, however, STRIVE for pointlessness. Anytime I get a good internet fight going, I've already won. at this point, it is just icing on the cake. I get entertained by you, my viewpoint stays the same, I don't care what you think so whether your viewpoint changes is insignificant, and then you realize just how futile this is and kill yourself for being sucked into something so asinine that it only exists to fuel my own enjoyment, and you are only feeding the fire. You can't defeat a troll, especially one that makes a valid point. You can only hope to get on level footing with them, and once that happens, they've already won. They've brought you down to their level.

Did I just blow your ****ING MIND?

...What? Yeah, nice. I just asked you politely NOT to flame me and there you go.
I TOLD you that I haven't played the game. So you know that if I'm saying I imagine it's bad it's speculation. And otherwise, I said nothing other than yelling at you for automatically flaming the guy for disliking the game and assuming you know why he hates it, and it's not that he doesn't like the game, but in a fault of his own. So I absolutely have a clue what I'm talking about.

I don't recall you asking me to not flame you, but I'm sure it could be there. It was implied that I didn't want you to flame me simply because it is against the rules, and I said nothing flameworthy, but that didn't stop you. You just happened to accidentally start a flame war with not only one of SWF's most intelligent members, but also one of its biggest trolls.

I barely flamed the guy. I simply pointed out the chance that he may have half-assedly rushed through the game without really "playing" it. This mentality is the whole reason the Wii and DS are doing so well. People lack the patience and drive to delve deep into a game, and instead want a light romp through entertained land.

Okay, could you please tell me what's wrong with you?

No. But since you don't know, you could always assume there is something wrong with me, and then guess what it is. You seem pretty good at that already.

Not only did I not even MENTION employment, but that was completely unnecessary. What I said may not have been nice, but I thought your posts were rather idiotic. And unless I was profusely flaming you there's no reason for you to imply that my future is doomed. You're just...seriously. You're a jerk.

I know you didn't. I implied you were stupid and a failure, and would ultimately end up working minimum wage flipping burgers because of said attributes. Are you seriously too dense to pick up a blatant insult, regardless of how non-serious it is? Maybe burger flipping is a bit too much...

And yes, I am a jerk, but that has never stopped me from being right (or awesome).

Again, I said NOTHING about the game. You're obviously just trying to say that everything I said was stupid because I haven't played the first game. Seriously, review my comments. The ONLY thing I said that was even related to what the game's like is speculation that it's bad, because I heard raving reviews about it from Nintendo Power which claimed how it was so great because it was gory, bloody, and M-rated. Which is a stupid reason for a game to be good.

Speculation based off of what? You don't even know the premise of the game, or any of the core gameplay elements. You are basing this off of hearsay, which is dumb.

Also, Nintendo Power is an expert on nothing, not even Nintendo.

Furthermore, the violence and extreme gore set up for the over the top style the game plays, not to mention being so extreme to the point of comedy. It is unrealistic on purpose for the sake of a stylistic choice. People seem to just want to **** over weird styles, for some reason. One of the reasons I thought you liked Fallout Boy; the complete lack of any discernable style.

Other than SPECULATION (which apparently isn't allowed), I said nothing about the game. I even admitted that I could be wrong (a concept which seems so foreign to the always-right Sliq) that what he said lacks evidence that he didn't explore secrets of the game. So stop telling me that I'm not allowed to speak in a No More Heroes 2 topic because I haven't played the original. You're just being ridiculous and trying to unfairly discredit me.

Speculation based off of NOTHING or inconsequential sources or notions isn't allowed.

Barack Obama is going to ruin America because he is a radical Muslim because one time he knew some guy that blew some stuff up. Hey, look at that crazy right wing speculation! Boy, it sure is valid!

Furthermore, I am rarely wrong because when I lack knowledge about something, or feel like I'm not qualified enough, I don't STICK MY NOSE IN OTHER PEOPLE'S ****. I know, crazy how not opening your mouth when you are ignorant leads you to not make an *** out of yourself (i.e. you).

That is why I'm always right; because I don't open my mouth unless I know what I am talking about, inside and out.

Also, I don't have to try to discredit you. You need credit to have it taken away.

No, I'm not. I frown upon people saying the game is awesome because it doesn't seem like it would be. It's called "speculation", and it's the type of speaking one does when they don't have infinite money and aren't intrigued enough by a game to buy it.

And why doesn't it seem like it would be? You don't know? Is that because you have no idea about anything IN the game?

Also, speculation ONLY occurs when no to little information is available about the thing being speculated upon. Considering this game has been out for over 6 months, at this point, shouldn't you not need to speculate, so much as, oh, I dunno, research the game? At least that way, when you debate, you have all this handy little INFORMATION with which to debate about, as opposed to sort of having to guess based off of only God and you knows what.

Seriously. People speculated about Brawl...until it came out. Then there was no speculation, only research. I'll be ****ed if I'm going to tolerate your laziness in knowing about the game before you sort of guess why it may or may not be bad. You are a ****ing dolt.

Way to do precisely what you just criticized me for, making assumptions (although I didn't actually do that and present it as fact as you are) without knowing what the hell I'm talking about.

Actually, what I did was personally attack you, claiming that you are so stubborn as to purposefully hate something you would normally enjoy just because some meanie on the internet made you cry.

Are you referring to...please tell me you're not THAT arrogant that you think that I'll hate the game just to spite YOU. You're the last person I'd give a second thought to.

Ah, the good old 'I don't give a ****" routine. I love it. If you didn't care you wouldn't be here. And also, it was more so a joke/insult so I could laugh/make you angry for no real well defined reason.

Also, I think the last person you'd give a second thought to is Sarah Cunningham, because you don't even know who she is. Neither do I.

Also, you don't even know what kind of person I am. About a week ago, I played Cave Story for the first time to see what the ravings were about and I, quite frankly, hated it after a few minutes. But a day or two later, I kept playing just to make sure I had gotten a full feel of it. I got addicted to it and found it was actually very fun, and went from hardly ready to download the game to ready to buy it on WiiWare when it comes out. Ask Chief Mendez if you don't believe me. Will I go into it expecting it to be poor? Yes. But I'm not a fanboy (unlike you), I won't hate it no matter what. If it's good, I'll enjoy it. If it's bad, I'll dislike it. And if I spend money on the game, since I must be employed in food service, I better make good use of it. So I'll likely end up playing it as much as possible for as long as I have it rented (unless the game is unbearably crappy, which I don't imagine it would be THAT bad).

I've never heard of Cave Story, but for some strange reason feel some sort of compulsion to talk about it like I do, claiming that it must not be good because other people like it, and I don't like those people that do for some inane reason. Weird...

Also, you pretty much to just proved me right. "I hated the game until I actually played it, then I liked it more." That is like my whole argument. Before you actually went back and played it more, you were so ready to say it sucked. But then you found something intriguing, and it became better for you.

Thanks for proving my point.

Also, Cave Story sucks. I heard some people say it was good, and it seemed like I shouldn't like those people because they liked something that I heard others didn't like, so I decided I hated it.

...No, I pretty much despise Fall Out Boy. Talk about making assumptions yet again, Mr. Hypocrite.

Once again, less of an assumption, more so a personal attack on your personality. I figured someone as bland and stupid as you would LOVE Failout Boy.

 

[Thinkaman]

Sorry guys, internet over.

 

[Firus]

Get a monitor with better resolution? I did it on purpose for the sole purpose of being mildly annoying, on the grounds that I thought it was funny that the image was so huge, and felt others could also see the humor in it.

I of course also figured someone would go all INTERNET: SERIOUS BUSINESS all over the place, and was preparing for the ensuing internet fight.

Furthermore, you can just hide my post completely circumventing the whole problem.

Regardless, the internet is not serious business, no matter how hard you try to make it such.

No one finds screen stretches funny (except for you). I thought that was obvious. Clearly you need to lurk forums more.

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I hate when people do this.

Could you explain what you're facepalming at?

This is assuming we use your definition of fanatic and fanboy, but for the sake of argument I'll concede on this nitpickery.

Also, I don't have to accept any opinions. I "tolerate" others opinions. Also, I like how you like went all crazy after an offhand comment given by someone who isn't even here anymore.

No, that's what a fanboy is. It's not "my definition".

I meant you have to tolerate them. As in, accept that they exist.
I was only talking to you. I went "crazy" after an offhand comment that you made in response to that other person.

And that's my pathology anyways. Call me weird, stupid, etc. if you want, but even if I see a comment left 10 months ago, if it's full of fail and idiocy I'll respond to it.

No, it doesn't. It's actually more relevant given that the techniques I'm talking about in NMH were directly programmed in there for there purposes, but were not explicitly explained in the game. Melee's are way more obscure.

The game is great, but with this little tricks it transcends to ****ing awesome. But yeah, I see where the analogy could be confusing (note: I don't).

I still don't get what you're hinting at. Generally, an analogy comes with some sort of a description of what you're saying and then the analogy supports your point more. You said that fanboys know the game better and then proceeded to go into your analogy, and then called me an "a-hole".

But I guess I'm stupid for not understanding it when YOU screw up. It's my fault.

Also, I'm glad at some point you felt bad about exploding a little comment into a huge thing for seemingly no reason.

I never exploded anything into a huge thing. When someone does something stupid, that's a generic, "way to do something stupid" reaction that I have. Maybe you just misinterpreted it as being bigger than it was. Understandably, because you can't see what my emotions are, just what I'm saying, a large flaw in the internet.

If you really interpreted it as "exploding", then that would explain why you flamed me for seemingly no reason.

By the way, it was just to express how much of a jerk you're being. I never really felt sorry for saying something about it.

There is a difference between playing the game "right," and breezing through it, and not utilizing the depth it gives you. It's like we're playing two completely different games.

I'm saying that from a standpoint of not being aware of all the nuances, I understand how someone can rate it lower. The reason I am so certain of his lack of knowledge about these things is because I didn't learn about any of this stuff until like my 3rd time through when I stumbled upon it. I doubt he played through it 3 times, let alone as many as I have (lost count).

But everyone is different. Again, give the guy the respect of at least asking him. It's altogether possible that he did discover these things. Perhaps he looked them up or stumbled upon them -- I looked up speed tricks, sequence breaking, etc. for Metroid Zero Mission during my first run.

I can see where you're coming from, you just need to acknowledge the guy

See, people unaware of art can look at a Picasso work and think, "This is lame, it's all cubey and doesn't even look real," whereas say, an EXPERT, would be able to easily argue against that by pointing out the purpose of the forced perspective and the utilization of different elements of art and design. Of course, your average person would have no idea what the golden ratio is or the importance of hue juxtaposition, but someone like me would. SAME EXACT THING.

It should be noted that I am not claiming the NMH is a work of art, it was just an analogy. I could've just as easily used the electoral college in my analogy, stating that they get final say in the president because of a better understanding of the government, while still respecting the voters' whishes (i.e. understanding how it could be rated low, but knowing moreso to point out potential flaws in the rating/voting of the person in question).

But this is assuming that NMH is at the same level of a work of art. I see that you said that you are not saying it's a work of art, I'm not addressing that. I'm asking, who's to say that NMH's that complex that it takes an expert to be able to truly understand it when there are much more complex games out there that you don't need an expert to appreciate?

And furthermore, if it takes an excessive amount of time to become an "expert" and enjoy the game to its full extent, then is it really a game that should be given a perfect 10? If a game is great, it should be enjoyable right off the bat, at least to an extent. If someone didn't think it was that good right off the bat, why would they put in extra time (not just playing through the game entirely, replaying it) to enjoy it a little bit more?

No, NMH is awesome without it. The delivery, the style, the characters, it is all great. People just over weigh the 2 minute side missions and the overworld navigation, like it completely ruins the game (note: it doesn't even come close to ruining it). But when you add this extra **** in, it like turns into solid gold.

To you it is awesome without it. That was my point. Super Metroid was easily in my top 10 games of all time before I tried those things. With them, it's easily in my top 5, and most likely my favorite game of all time. But everyone has different tastes, so you cannot say for sure that the game is awesome without those. I also found Sonic and the Secret Rings to colossally suck and Sonic '06 to be highly underrated. But for many people, it's the opposite. That doesn't mean that I did something wrong in playing them, it just means that I like different things. Those types of differences in opinions should be collected into the overall score for everyone. For your score, you can (obviously) have what you want.

As for the side missions, I was really just playing devil's advocate. As someone who hasn't experienced it myself, I can't say for sure, I'm just putting out the possibility.

Yet you already are, based off of people applauding it, which is weird.

Judging the game? No, I'm speculating. I'm holding my final judgment until I actually play the game, that'd be just stupid to pass judgment beforehand.

And I was talking about the side missions specifically. Specific parts of a game...those are really hard to judge before you've played the game.

There are 9 sub missions, which all have humorous moments in them, and they all last around 2 minutes. They are near impossible to fail. at the most, you play these missions for 20 minutes of the total game time of several hours.

Next you have assassination side missions, which implement the standard gameplay, but with different mission styles and almost 0 exposition. This is fun for when you want to just wail on people and earn money to buy ****.

And no, it isn't annoying. It adds to the story. The dude is a ****ing ASSASSIN, but in order to actually assassinate someone, he has to earn enough money by pumping gas. That is awesome and hilarious.

It sounds interesting enough. Again, just putting it out there that perhaps the guy finds it annoying, and if he does he is allowed to.

Just as an example of when even a small amount of side missions can be annoying, take Sonic '06. It has a few required side missions every so often in one of the "adventure fields" (not what they're called, but they're just like the things of the same name in Sonic Adventure). Do they ruin the game? For me, no. But they are kind of annoying, and they disrupt the flow of gameplay. While I may want to be rushing through levels at the speed of sound as Sonic, I may have to protect a citizen while they go from one side of town to the other. They're hard to fail, not that long, but they still can be annoying, and again, a huge part is disrupting the game's flow.

Also, others' opinions can be WRONG, mostly based around ignorance of the subject matter. I think Obama is unfit to be president because he is black. Yeah, I find that opinion wrong and will not respect it, but I will tolerate it.

Opinions can rarely be wrong. If you're ignorant, then it's a misinformed opinion. Unless you believe something that's clearly incorrect, believing something that defies proven fact, it is not wrong. If I think that apples taste like cheese, then that's a weird opinion, but not a wrong one. If I think that apples are made of cheese, then that is a wrong opinion.

If you find an opinion to be wrong, that means that you disagree with it, which is obviously fine.

Yeah, I am sterotyping based off of personal observation. Everyone does it. It only fails when people act upon them. I'm hardly acting upon them, so much as maybe piquing this dudes interest in knowing the hidden stuff to maybe re-evaluate the game and play it again. I know, I'm Satan.

All stereotypes are based in the truth. Otherwise, a stereotype would never form. I'm simply playing the odds that this dude played straight through the game, did almost 0 side quests, and just mashed a instead of actually thinking. Stereotype, yes, but I am very confident that I am correct, simply because if you don't like a game, you don't play it a lot. And if he didn't play it a lot, he missed a lot which may make him rethink his position.

Well, by saying it so confidently it felt like you had passed judgment and moved on. Perhaps you didn't, it's just what I got from your comment.

Stereotypes are always based on truth in at least one case. But 90% of stereotypes are incorrect. All gamers above 30 supposedly have no job and live in their parents' basement, but that's not true. Everyone that dresses in all black is supposedly a devil-worshipper and a freak, but that's not true. It's okay to use them to an extent, but I think it's a good rule to not even say anything implying a stereotype until you've got good proof that it's true.

Being confident is fine, I just think it would've been better if you had said it more like "I assume you haven't explored the secrets of the game, correct?" so you are confident in what he will answer, but you're at least leaving it open.

Also, about me being arrogant: welcome to Smashboards/the Internet. Enjoy your stay!

Either you're saying;

A) Everyone on the internet is arrogant. That is not true at all.
B) **** happens and I have to deal with it. I don't.

****, you are like the master of hyperbole. It was sarcasm, dip****. This is the internet, where business isn't serious. Almost all of my post are narcissistic, pessimistic, and sarcastic. That is how I post on the internet. Also, it was pretty clear that I wasn't being serious in this post. I can't believe you think people this arrogant are alive. You should consider suicide before your stupid developes into a contagious cancer that kills everyone in the world.

Look, I'm sorry. I suck at detecting sarcasm as it is, and on the internet it's near impossible. To YOU it may have been clearly sarcasm. To me, you were an arrogant prick. There's a difference between stupidity and being unable to detect the way you meant words typed out on a screen. Surely you can understand that?

With the things I've witnessed, it would seem sickening that someone that arrogant were alive, but not impossible.

And before you call me so stupid, learn to spell "develops"...please. Although I hadn't had my irony fix for the day.

Dude, by simply arguing with me, you are saying, "I believe you are wrong and I am right," which is the core for holier-than-thou attitudes.

No, not in this case. When my friend argued to my other friend that the Wii and PS3 came out in 2007 and not 2006, they were arguing that the other was wrong.
We're arguing opinions here. I rarely call someone's opinion "wrong".

Also, I am a jerk about everything, unless you know that I am being mostly facetious, in which case it becomes endlessly entertaining to stumble upon me yelling at some moron and him yelling back.

I assume I'm the moron yelling back?

A) I wasn't yelling.
B) You seem to think that it's funny when someone doesn't understand how you mean things. To lead them on and make them think you're serious just for a chuckle is kind of low. If you're joking, make it seem obvious instead of declaring someone stupid for not understanding. I don't know your nature and again, I suck at detecting emotions, especially on the internet.

Also, even if I were a fanboy, you are stereotyping me as such, which is funny, because you claimed stereotypes fail while I embrace them.

I had reasonable evidence that you were a fanboy. You automatically attacked a person for disliking the game, assuming that they did something wrong rather than have a differing opinion.

This is the thing I HATE the most about forums. People not disagreeing with what I am saying, but disagreeing with the way I say it. You're not arguing against any of the valid points I'm making, you are making it your job to point out that I must be wrong because I'm a big ol' meanie. =(

I responded to you because you said something arrogant, yes.

But I am also arguing against your points.

It's people like you that make me want to light people on fire through the internet.

It's people like you that make me lose all hope for humanity.
There, now we're even.

Also, I'm certain that you will back down, not admitting defeat, but growing weary of the pointlessness of this argument. I, however, STRIVE for pointlessness. Anytime I get a good internet fight going, I've already won. at this point, it is just icing on the cake. I get entertained by you, my viewpoint stays the same, I don't care what you think so whether your viewpoint changes is insignificant, and then you realize just how futile this is and kill yourself for being sucked into something so asinine that it only exists to fuel my own enjoyment, and you are only feeding the fire. You can't defeat a troll, especially one that makes a valid point. You can only hope to get on level footing with them, and once that happens, they've already won. They've brought you down to their level.

Did I just blow your ****ING MIND?

If you continue to be a petty troll, then yes, I probably will stop bothering to argue with you just to be flamed.

And when I do finally give up, no one wins. Because I've wasted energy on you, and you've succumbed to the notion that by being a troll and getting a few cheap chuckles over flaming someone, you win.
Trolls never win.

So why am I not giving up now? Because while you get enjoyment over me replying to you, I get satisfaction out of replying to you once you've flamed me. Don't ask me why, it's just my pathology.

I don't recall you asking me to not flame you, but I'm sure it could be there. It was implied that I didn't want you to flame me simply because it is against the rules, and I said nothing flameworthy, but that didn't stop you. You just happened to accidentally start a flame war with not only one of SWF's most intelligent members, but also one of its biggest trolls.

don't flame me if I'm wrong -- I've never played the game

Also, I didn't flame you. Flaming is not just yelling at someone, it also involves personal attacks, which I believe you accomplished quite well throughout your post.

I barely flamed the guy. I simply pointed out the chance that he may have half-assedly rushed through the game without really "playing" it. This mentality is the whole reason the Wii and DS are doing so well. People lack the patience and drive to delve deep into a game, and instead want a light romp through entertained land.

I know you didn't flame the guy, I didn't say you flamed him.

No. But since you don't know, you could always assume there is something wrong with me, and then guess what it is. You seem pretty good at that already.

It's an expression. When you say "What's wrong with you?" you don't generally mean they have a mental defect.

I know you didn't. I implied you were stupid and a failure, and would ultimately end up working minimum wage flipping burgers because of said attributes. Are you seriously too dense to pick up a blatant insult, regardless of how non-serious it is? Maybe burger flipping is a bit too much...

There you go, flaming again...

You know hardly anything about me. I found you to be kind of obnoxious, but I would hardly say you would end up working minimum wage.

Hell, for all you know, I'm already retired and have millions of dollars stacked up. I'm not, and I don't, but how do you know? I may already have a very successful job.

My point was, it was a completely unrelated insult. So yes, it was a blatant insult. That was my point, it was a blatant, unnecessary insult since you know NOTHING about me.

And yes, I am a jerk, but that has never stopped me from being right (or awesome).

...Sure?

Speculation based off of what? You don't even know the premise of the game, or any of the core gameplay elements. You are basing this off of hearsay, which is dumb.

...Yeah, I do know the premise of the game. I may not have played it but I have read about it.
I am basing my speculation off the fact that I've heard few arguments for how great the game is other than how there's lots of raw violence. Generally, a game having nothing but raw violence is rather unappealing to me.

Also, Nintendo Power is an expert on nothing, not even Nintendo.

Agreed.

Furthermore, the violence and extreme gore set up for the over the top style the game plays, not to mention being so extreme to the point of comedy. It is unrealistic on purpose for the sake of a stylistic choice. People seem to just want to **** over weird styles, for some reason. One of the reasons I thought you liked Fallout Boy; the complete lack of any discernable style.

I find it hard to believe that over-the-top violence could improve a game's quality, but that's just my speculation.

And where did you have any evidence that I liked a lack of any discernible style?

Speculation based off of NOTHING or inconsequential sources or notions isn't allowed.

Except, I didn't just base it off of that...

Furthermore, I am rarely wrong because when I lack knowledge about something, or feel like I'm not qualified enough, I don't STICK MY NOSE IN OTHER PEOPLE'S ****. I know, crazy how not opening your mouth when you are ignorant leads you to not make an *** out of yourself (i.e. you).

Oh boy, more flaming! Yeah! (Now I can understand why you like over-the-top violence.)

You keep acting like the insertion of my opinion, based on speculation, is a CRIME. I'm not ignorant, you are once again assuming. "He hasn't played the game...he said he got speculation from Nintendo Power...THAT MEANS HE HASN'T PLAYED THE GAME AND HE ONLY KNOWS WHAT NINTENDO POWER TOLD HIM! Oh boy, he doesn't know anything about the game!"

Talk about opening your mouth when you're ignorant.

That is why I'm always right; because I don't open my mouth unless I know what I am talking about, inside and out.

I don't open my mouth unless I know what I'm talking about either.
You're forgetting that I never stated a single FACT. I stated one or two OPINIONS, you exploded those into facts which you then portrayed as wrong because I haven't played the game.

Also, I don't have to try to discredit you. You need credit to have it taken away.

...Do you ever stop flaming? Seriously, this is getting tiring. Stop with the personal attacks already.

And why doesn't it seem like it would be? You don't know? Is that because you have no idea about anything IN the game?

Because I've read about the game.

Seriously, there you go, you've taken the assumption that I've read only about it in Nintendo Power and automatically I know NOTHING else for the rest of your comment.

Also, speculation ONLY occurs when no to little information is available about the thing being speculated upon. Considering this game has been out for over 6 months, at this point, shouldn't you not need to speculate, so much as, oh, I dunno, research the game? At least that way, when you debate, you have all this handy little INFORMATION with which to debate about, as opposed to sort of having to guess based off of only God and you knows what.

See my last comment.

Seriously. People speculated about Brawl...until it came out. Then there was no speculation, only research. I'll be ****ed if I'm going to tolerate your laziness in knowing about the game before you sort of guess why it may or may not be bad. You are a ****ing dolt.

IF I HAVEN'T PLAYED THE GAME, I CAN ONLY SPECULATE ON HOW IT WOULD PLAY.

Actually, what I did was personally attack you, claiming that you are so stubborn as to purposefully hate something you would normally enjoy just because some meanie on the internet made you cry.

Again, you're making assumptions. I THINK THE GAME WILL BE BAD BASED ON WHAT I'VE READ.

Ah, the good old 'I don't give a ****" routine. I love it. If you didn't care you wouldn't be here. And also, it was more so a joke/insult so I could laugh/make you angry for no real well defined reason.

It's no routine. I really don't care about your opinion. If I didn't care about your opinion, it wouldn't stop me from arguing over the arrogance of your initial statement.

Also, I think the last person you'd give a second thought to is Sarah Cunningham, because you don't even know who she is. Neither do I.

Haha?
That's not funny.

I've never heard of Cave Story, but for some strange reason feel some sort of compulsion to talk about it like I do, claiming that it must not be good because other people like it, and I don't like those people that do for some inane reason. Weird...

That's not what I'm doing.

Also, you pretty much to just proved me right. "I hated the game until I actually played it, then I liked it more." That is like my whole argument. Before you actually went back and played it more, you were so ready to say it sucked. But then you found something intriguing, and it became better for you.

Thanks for proving my point.

No, you actually kept on saying how I was going to hate the game regardless once I played it just to spite you.

I was saying that I have proof that I don't base my opinions on games on how much I'm irked by annoying people.

Also, Cave Story sucks. I heard some people say it was good, and it seemed like I shouldn't like those people because they liked something that I heard others didn't like, so I decided I hated it.

...No. Stop saying it. Assumptions and ignorant statements don't become awesome and true if you say them five times over.

(And I already predict a comment about how your statements are always awesome...)

Once again, less of an assumption, more so a personal attack on your personality. I figured someone as bland and stupid as you would LOVE Failout Boy.

Why are you making attacks on my personality again?

Weren't you the one that told me I'm not supposed to flame you because it's in the rules?

And you seriously

KNOW
NOTHING
ABOUT
ME
.

Stop acting like you do.

 

[Pas]

Firus has spammed up this thread more than Sliq's original pictures did.


So, I didn't hear anything about this game before this thread. Given how No More Heroes was constantly tipping it's hat to retro gaming and such, is the title "Desperate Struggle" is a nod to the trend of naming DS games Dual Strike, Deadly Silence, Dust Strikers, Dawn of Sorrow etc. after the DS came out?

 

[Firus]

Firus has spammed up this thread more than Sliq's original pictures did.

If I'm spamming, then so is he. And he's flaming on top of it.

But I'm not.

 

[Pas]

You always do, bro. I called you out on it before, remember? So has he, about midway up his last post.

 

[derek.haines]

Has the war ended yet? Is it safe to re-enter the thread?

Anywho~

was constantly tipping it's hat to retro gaming and such, is the title "Desperate Struggle" is a nod to the trend of naming DS games Dual Strike, Deadly Silence, Dust Strikers, Dawn of Sorrow etc. after the DS came out?

I've seen alot of speculation on this one, and seeing as how much the DS is loooooved in Japan, I'm going to call this one plausible. We haven't seen anything of this game yet one way or another, so it's hard to make a call but the "D.S." initials certainly do make an argument.

What if it was on the DS though? We've seen more and more companies pushing the DS farther and farther, and it's fertile ground for quirky games like No More Heroes. I personally would love to see it, particularly if that meant the implementation of some sort of multiplayer feature, even it was just a battle mode. That would own on unheard of levels.

At any rate, it's just good to know that the US will recieve an uncensored copy, whatever happens. That makes my first-amendment-loving self happy in no small way.

 

[Darkslash]

Actually Suda made up the title from a Japanese Movie that was some where along the lines of Desperate Struggle. Said so from a IGN Vid interview. I wonder how the sales would be in Japan. The crowd was reported to sound pleased, despite the poor sales in Japan.

@Derek: Its always been uncensored here in North America. Suda expressed that the true No more Heroes game was always the NA version.

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ERSB FTW!!!

I can't wait to see if Travis is living out his dreams OR still living in No more Heroes Motel with his moe posters and his Beam Katana in the Bed Drawer, and if he still has Jeane the cat.

Seriously i love it how they break the 4th wall

????:..it alone would jack up the age rating of this game even further.
Travis:So what? Who cares?
????:What if they game gets Delayed? You wouldn't want this to be No more Heroes Forever do you?
Travis: Alright i'll fast froward this so you can tell me.

Hey No more Heroes Forever sounds like a great squeal.
One of my Favorite ones

Travis:WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU BRING SOME THING LIKE THAT AT THE VERY LAST MINUTE IN THE GAME!!?!?!?

????:Your the protagonist..I'm just some cool, handsome foyle(sp), who happens to be your twin Brother!! Hate to say it but its your job!

Plus i like it how the beam katana doesnt entirely rip off the lightsaber concept. Except for the Cross saber and the Tsubaki MKIII, they are a loop of high temp energy.