NJ/NY Rankings: New Rankings 9/25/12!!!

[ANTi_]

Tsukasa's IC's gettin good.

Oh well **** east coast becoming a bunch of Ice Climbers ******s.

Desperate fuks cant fight straight up.

 

[AllyKnight]

This just in:

Cheese vs Vex in Winner's finals of Xzax's tourney. Vex beats Cheese in the ICs ditto, then Cheese CPs Frigate, where his MK gets JV 4 stocked by Vex's ICs.

Trevor said JV3, JV4??? LOLLL THATD BE FUNNY TBH NO hate on you cheese but O.O

 

[Vinnie]

Trevor said JV3, JV4??? LOLLL THATD BE FUNNY TBH NO hate on you cheese but O.O

According to both Xzax and Allied, Cheese didn't hit him once, and attacked his shield 3 times and got grabbed 3 times and died 3 times.

edit: Oh and it got saved iirc.

 

[AllyKnight]

According to both Xzax and Allied, Cheese didn't hit him once, and attacked his shield 3 times and got grabbed 3 times and died 3 times.

edit: Oh and it got saved iirc.

We'll see, that is indeed possible so a JV4 by ics is not even impressive to me.

 

[ANTi_]

IC players = Desperate.

 

[jbandrew]

I think the 1.1 idea should definetely be looked into. The way the metagame is going right now... everyday this game gets campier and less entertaining to watch. It'd be interesting to see how a new metagame arises and where it would lead this game.

 

[ksizl4life]

IC players = Desperate.

so are other character players like meta knight lol

 

[ANTi_]

so are other character players like meta knight lol

Link the vid of MK's infinite grab plz

 

[Inui]

lol @ how much Anti hates a free character

 

[ksizl4life]

Link the vid of MK's infinite grab plz

So apparently the character needs to have an infinite throw in order for the person playing them to be desperate? lol just cuz you're booty in the MU don't mean anything. (you got better at it anyway so stop *****ing)

I seriously hope you're trolling cuz imo they're unviable in the current metagame vs anyone with a brain.

 

[Max Ketchum]

 

[jbandrew]

yo this 1.1 knockback business actually sounds like it can become legit... we need some players to test this! Keitaro/Hanzhou/I will be testing it on tuesday.

 

[Hanzhou]

1.1 knockback o.o.o.o

Also from the words of a friend " Ayo pierce lemme give you a shape up bruh"

 

[KageMurphy]

Yo 1.1 is stupid, play a different game if you got a problem with how the standard is I say.

Cheese ML gettin rocked for free, God **** yo

 

[ksizl4life]

Does standard = the way the game was supposed to be played like with smash balls and stuff? If so, we're doing something wrong.

 

[KageMurphy]

Does standard = the way the game was supposed to be played like with smash balls and stuff? If so, we're doing something wrong.

I'm not getting into an argument with you because we tight as **** but you know what I meant, don't be trying to **** me with some logical reply LOL

 

[AllyKnight]

Ksizzle ***** this thread.

 

[Turbo Ether]

I'm open to the idea of 1.1, but why, specifically, should it be used?

 

[ksizl4life]

I'm not getting into an argument with you because we tight as **** but you know what I meant, don't be trying to **** me with some logical reply LOL

Haha I'm saying! It's all good though i know what you mean but all i posted was that i wouldn't mind if it gets implemented or not. It was fun playing with nairo and i wanna try it out with other people, maybe a 5 dollar side event or something so ALLY CAN BEAT US BECUZ SNAKES UP TILT KILLS MK AT 74

 

[erick gm14]

1.1 means more knockback and hitstun i think. more hitstun means more camping and planking because no one would approach the camper. nades do so much damage and heavyweights will be ****. snake is easily S tier here. but thats what i read on one of the threads. they said the camper will camp because more damage is better and may encourage more planking to avoid getting killed or hit.

imo i would try it out, i havent changed the ratio in forever lol . it certainly takes some CGs out or nerfs them..

 

[Gunblade789]

1.1 means more knockback and hitstun i think. more hitstun means more camping and planking because no one would approach the camper. nades do so much damage and heavyweights will be ****. snake is easily S tier here. but thats what i read on one of the threads. they said the camper will camp because more damage is better and may encourage more planking to avoid getting killed or hit.

imo i would try it out, i havent changed the ratio in forever lol . it certainly takes some CGs out or nerfs them..

so you mad that it nerfs your ******** chicken? we out!!!!!!!

 

[jbandrew]

1.1 means more knockback and hitstun i think. more hitstun means more camping and planking because no one would approach the camper. nades do so much damage and heavyweights will be ****. snake is easily S tier here. but thats what i read on one of the threads. they said the camper will camp because more damage is better and may encourage more planking to avoid getting killed or hit.

imo i would try it out, i havent changed the ratio in forever lol . it certainly takes some CGs out or nerfs them..

Not exactly. Keep in mind that we have to weigh risk/reward here. Planking/stalling is usually a method that's used because the risk/reward is low and leans to more rewarding possibilities. With 1.0 knockback a MK can plank and not risk much because even in the case that they do get hit they can still DI and live to 150. With 1.1, planking isn't as effective because you are putting yourself offstage in a game where every move has buffered killing potential. Therefore one mess up offstage and you're probably done, unlike in 1.0 where I can plank anyone at 80 and not be afraid of death. It's just not a favorable situation to risk one mess up and lose the game.

We should definetely give 1.1 a try, imo. What do we have to lose from an already suffering metagame?

 

[erick gm14]

so you mad that it nerfs your ******** chicken? we out!!!!!!!

u brain dead? read my last paragraph xD i said someone mentioned what i stated in my 1st paragraph from the threads pertaining to the 1.1 DR. and even so brendan ill MM u with 2.0 damage ratio with my mutha f***in JIGGLYPUFF and **** ya.


@jband, cenrtain characters cannot do anything against planking. the space animals cant, im sure link, ganon, and a lot more have trouble vs planking. if MK can plank vs a character with no way to counter planking there is no risk imo. no one should go offstage and challenge mk anyways lol.

 

[jbandrew]

u brain dead? read my last paragraph xD i said someone mentioned what i stated in my 1st paragraph from the threads pertaining to the 1.1 DR. and even so brendan ill MM u with 2.0 damage ratio with my mutha f***in JIGGLYPUFF and **** ya.


@jband, cenrtain characters cannot do anything against planking. the space animals cant, im sure link, ganon, and a lot more have trouble vs planking. if MK can plank vs a character with no way to counter planking there is no risk imo. no one should go offstage and challenge mk anyways lol.

Can space animals do anything about planking in 1.0? I bet not, so planking really shouldn't be the deciding matter here since it can't really be fixed. Planking should just be banned and people should be forced to fight it out... but thats just my personal opinion.

 

[AllyKnight]

Haha I'm saying! It's all good though i know what you mean but all i posted was that i wouldn't mind if it gets implemented or not. It was fun playing with nairo and i wanna try it out with other people, maybe a 5 dollar side event or something so ALLY CAN BEAT US BECUZ SNAKES UP TILT KILLS MK AT 74

MK can grab once, do a follow up of 60-100% and use Utilt/UP B to kill me, it's fair, there's no difference other than Falco not able to CG no more.

Edit: I already beat EC consistantly enough so it wouldn't matter.

 

[jbandrew]

MK can grab once, do a follow up of 60-100% and use Utilt/UP B to kill me, it's fair, there's no difference other than Falco not able to CG no more.

Edit: I already beat EC consistantly enough so it wouldn't matter.

It also adds more character variety.

Marth,Jigglypuff, Link, ZSS, Fox, Luigi, and many more are all alot more viable and able to compete with any character in 1.1 including MK/Snake.

 

[erick gm14]

Can space animals do anything about planking in 1.0? I bet not, so planking really shouldn't be the deciding matter here since it can't really be fixed. Planking should just be banned and people should be forced to fight it out... but thats just my personal opinion.

now ur speakin my language

 

[Gunblade789]

u brain dead? read my last paragraph xD i said someone mentioned what i stated in my 1st paragraph from the threads pertaining to the 1.1 DR. and even so brendan ill MM u with 2.0 damage ratio with my mutha f***in JIGGLYPUFF and **** ya.

Your the last person to indirectly call me dumb. I will leave it at that.

You will not beat me in any mm with any type of mod or rules change that effects physics. So my Ganon will mm your jiggz in 2.0 damage ratio and win by killing you with jab or u-throw or something like that, let alone the rest of my moves.

 

[erick gm14]

lol, im playin. but i wasnt mad if falco gets nerfed.

 

[ksizl4life]

Ally, Nairo is beating my MK with snake consistently and you know how good I am in that matchup. There IS a difference. How much did you play it anyway? I played 2 hours of it with Nairo and analyzed all of his/my characters.

My tornado start is useless as it's easier to get out of now and I get back air'd which sends me farther now. You can't juggle with up airs with mk anymore because they send you too far and make the snake or any other character able to air dodge faster than they were able to before. Ftilt combo kills at 120-130, ect etc. play the game before making assumptions like that yo. there are many changes in all the characters i play by moving 1.0 to 1.1 (MK, Falco, LUCARIO IS A BIG ONE LOL, zss, snake, fox(that nair to up smash thing anti talked about is legit)) Dedede can't chain grab characters like marth cuz they go into tech chase mode like light characters.

there are changes *****

and i can beat you just as consistently as you can beat me ^_^ i think. lol idk if ive gotten worse but im talking our last tourney sets. we kept trading sets and rounds. but ec as a whole yeah obviously but you're statement sounded too cocky and gay. so fawk you.

 

[erick gm14]

kelvin plz come backk.. NJ needs you. I NEED YOU!! (no homo )

 

[ksizl4life]

kelvin plz come backk.. NJ needs you. I NEED YOU!! (no homo )

When I get better, I shall return hard body to take my throne of 3rd place. lol

 

[jbandrew]

Hm, Ksizzle do you think 1.1 would eventually lead players to play more aggressive or more campy/gay (planking, scrooging, circle camping, etc.)

 

[AllyKnight]

Ally, Nairo is beating my MK with snake consistently and you know how good I am in that matchup. There IS a difference. How much did you play it anyway? I played 2 hours of it with Nairo and analyzed all of his/my characters.

My tornado start is useless as it's easier to get out of now and I get back air'd which sends me farther now. You can't juggle with up airs with mk anymore because they send you too far and make the snake or any other character able to air dodge faster than they were able to before. Ftilt combo kills at 120-130, ect etc. play the game before making assumptions like that yo. there are many changes in all the characters i play by moving 1.0 to 1.1 (MK, Falco, LUCARIO IS A BIG ONE LOL, zss, snake, fox(that nair to up smash thing anti talked about is legit)) Dedede can't chain grab characters like marth cuz they go into tech chase mode like light characters.

there are changes *****

and i can beat you just as consistently as you can beat me ^_^ i think. lol idk if ive gotten worse but im talking our last tourney sets. we kept trading sets and rounds. but ec as a whole yeah obviously but you're statement sounded too cocky and gay. so fawk you.

not trying to be cocky, I could just learn and watch videos all day, but I don't do it because I guess I don't use everything to make myselfbetter, I don't care if Nairo can do that or not I still think Anti and many more MKS in the EC surpasses him in most MU including Snake. w-e I'm not going to talk to you, if I try to prove you wrong and you take offense to it, you will just start some argument that I don't need with smash. good luck with your researchs/1,1/Nakat's Fox> Nairo's knownledge of Snake MU. Teach him that MU so he can be more consistant.

also 1.1 doesn't make Snake godly, you're just behind biased like anyone including me. The end. (hopefully unless my hands wants to betray my words!)

 

[ksizl4life]

I'm not sure how I feel about that since ive only known about thsi thing for a few hours but I'm leaning towards more campyness arising due to people dying way earlier now.

edit: ally, Im either sleep deprived, reading your response wrong or you're confused lol we're talking about brawl 1.1.

"I don't care if Nairo can do that or not I still think Anti and many more MKS in the EC surpasses him in most MU including Snake"

so confused...... how did a 1.1 talk about NAIRO using the character SNAKE in 1.1 and beating my MK in 1.1 lead to all the ec meta knights surpassing nairo....?

jesus.

ally i respect you alot but the things you're saying like calling me biased is just the words expect a moron like brick to say. dont be an idiot and take the things im saying in a complete other sense and actually READ MY POSTS. i played it for TWO HOURS and made an opinionated assumption after playing 15 CHARACTERS. Calm down, take your medication to turn to calm ally, and go to sleep

 

[Kaiber Kop]

Not to attempt to shoot 1.1 down or anything but I'd highly doubt seeing it as a standard rule. I think Balanced Brawl(Although a hacked version of the game) was the best version thus far from the standard way tourny matches are played. Still, I'd be up for trying it or something

 

[ksizl4life]

Yeah kai. will never know until you give it a try. even friendlies for feedback


re read allys post twice and still so so confused. why lol

 

[AllyKnight]

Zzzz and I played the D3 vs Rob Snake vs MK MK vs MK MUS for 4 hours, your point? oh and Falco MK. Yes you're being biased by saying Snake is godly. I'm done though I really can't argue with people about Smash, it's pointless.

 

[ksizl4life]

well at least tell me what you meant about nairo cuz that just came out of nowhere really :/

and yeah ally im being biased. so are over 100 posters in the 1.1 thread saying snake would be the best character haha

 

[Kaiber Kop]

Yeah kai. will never know until you give it a try. even friendlies for feedback

Very true but after over 2 years of very similar rules with the only difference being in stages and character exploits I can't say I'd expect things to change