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ksizl4life

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u know kelvin, im pretty good on RC, but if all the MK does is plank on the ship falco loses. no way he can get a CG or any decent damage after the boat... i got planked by an mk and lost there..
here come the most simplistic baby answers ever.

If all the Mk did was plank, then the match would've gone to time with no one taking percent.

if you went up to him and tried to attack a planking meta knight, smack yourself plz.

if you dont attack and then get to a part where you have no ledges around and you're in the lead, mk has to get to you and Mk chasing falco isnt particularly fun for mk and a hassle.

what good mk's have you beaten on RC to say that you're good there?

why is that i know more falco i have played him since june to you and others who have mained him for years? im baffled. i feel like im talking to a wall. all jokes aside.
 

Takeover1806

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Picking up MK and having to MK ditto veteran MKs that have been doing the MU for two years doesn't exactly sound easy.

Edit: Good luck, Orion!
**** you were the only good snake in nj.
Get better with snake man. :urg:
Well I guess MK is fun too lol
 

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ksizzle, what if you're not in the lead? Its not that hard to handle a mk on Rainbow if you're in the lead but most likely you'll not be in the lead considering its MK on Rainbow vs Falco. Especially if the mk doesn't get cged.

Also saying it would have went to time is silly. A mk can be airplanking down to 1 min 30 seconds left on the timer with a 50% lead. By that time, what else can Falco do besides approach? And when MKs do air plank like that they usual randomly get some hits in. RC is consistently moving, and many parts of RC can leave Falco very vulnerable like when the ship just goes away. At that time a MK can jump around a attack very safely while Falco just runs away.
 

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here come the most simplistic baby answers ever.

If all the Mk did was plank, then the match would've gone to time with no one taking percent.

if you went up to him and tried to attack a planking meta knight, smack yourself plz.

if you dont attack and then get to a part where you have no ledges around and you're in the lead, mk has to get to you and Mk chasing falco isnt particularly fun for mk and a hassle.

what good mk's have you beaten on RC to say that you're good there?

why is that i know more falco i have played him since june to you and others who have mained him for years? im baffled. i feel like im talking to a wall. all jokes aside.
Because you are a smarter player than they are to be good with falco instantly.

And @ ksizzle what snake are in NJ/NY?
seriously people that actually main snake and do well.

Kietaro is kinda right, it's very hard for falco to approach mk that air camps.
And if he tries to read mk often while air planking, mk's usually destroy falco for approaching racking up even more damage.

Well we all know this but on rainbow cruise it can get really frustrating. The only answer to solving that kietaro is being patient and reading the mk very well.
 

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ksizzle, what if you're not in the lead? Its not that hard to handle a mk on Rainbow if you're in the lead but most likely you'll not be in the lead considering its MK on Rainbow vs Falco. Especially if the mk doesn't get cged.

Also saying it would have went to time is silly. A mk can be airplanking down to 1 min 30 seconds left on the timer with a 50% lead. By that time, what else can Falco do besides approach? And when MKs do air plank like that they usual randomly get some hits in. RC is consistently moving, and many parts of RC can leave Falco very vulnerable like when the ship just goes away. At that time a MK can jump around a attack very safely while Falco just runs away.
alright i want you to go back and read my post again because you guys are reading the floor or something

Kid said the mk planked the entire match and he lost because of that. now, if a mk realistically planked the entire match, kid mustve tried to stop the planking mk with FALCO with is a NO NO. you shouldnt attempt to stop it wtf.

secondly, who cares if its mk vs falco on rainbow? falco has ALL OF THE TOOLS to combat mks tools which is why it makes it an even matchup. yeah so if MK gets the lead it gets easier for the mk to win. but you guys are thinking its easy for mk to get the lead immediately. no it isnt. if i were to face dehf in tourney, even though my best matchup is falco, id probly get 2-0d with rainbow

if i start planking, he aint gonna approach like all of you guys are doing. hes gonna stay there shdl until he sees an opening. whats mk gonna do? also look for an opening. the better player will be the hardest to give out an opening.


you know what? im talking to yes and shugo on aim right now. they agree. larry would probably agree too. this is all out of help. if you dont want help and wanna try to argue potential help. so be it. so yep keitaro continue banning RC for some reason and auto losing game 2. kid continue whining cuz you cant kill and you approach planking MKs

/done.

Takeover, Inui, Yes, and I have good snakes. Inui having the most accomplishments with him and good ones at that. hes beaten me with snake.
 

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Still does not answer my question.
None of you main snake and don't place consistently with him to be a notable snake.
There are alot of people with an okay/good snake but don't play him in nj/ny.
**** kietaro has an okay snake too.
But he does not main him or play him to be notable.

I'm not saying Ether is one of the top's but he did things I liked and I've heard he's done some good things
Kinda sad he's picking up mk.
 

Takeover1806

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**** forgot about anti.
Nevermind you guys have one snake.

But anyway's your snake PRESENTLY is not better than mine Anti.
That's def. a fact, but you were **** back in mid 09 with him.
 

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**** forgot about anti.
Nevermind you guys have one snake.

But anyway's your snake PRESENTLY is not better than mine Anti.
That's def. a fact, but you were **** back in mid 09 with him.
Not like i forgot how to play Snake...

My Snake accomplishments > yours homeboy.

List some of yours.

EDIT : Who knows how to encode a link in a sig?
 

ksizl4life

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Still does not answer my question.
None of you main snake and don't place consistently with him to be a notable snake.
There are alot of people with an okay/good snake but don't play him in nj/ny.
**** kietaro has an okay snake too.
But he does not main him or play him to be notable
lmao takeover with the best logic in the world. Inui mains MK/Snake first of all. shows how much you know. secondly, i remember when you thought zucco and Junebugs Lucario were better than mine because i didnt "main" him when everyone knows i did.(Junebugs is equal or better than mine at this point) shows how much attention you put to the scene. i bet if i didnt play meta and used another character with lucario youd think i main lucario too. makes a big difference huh? mk is the best character. i use him for ALMOST every matchup. some i use for lucario. hes one of my mains. et it memorized. and for the record That does not matter if he or anyone else didnt main any character. If hes able to take out a character that rivals or is better than most [players (like anti using snake, he doesnt main him, but its hell of a lot better than yours and equal to fatals and razers) hes still one of the besk snakes.

again, im talking to a wall.




ANTI - THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! OMG

edit - why isnt antis snake presently better than yours? is it because of his current accomplishments with snake? lol i suppose doom or pwii have better mk's than me because im inactive. continue being the jester of md va dude.
 

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Well I guess just to end this because as Ksizzle can bring up from aim, Takeover is hurting my soul right now.

Accomplishments overall with my Snake
Beaten:
Atomsk (I know trevor, but it makes me look better <3)
Inui (3x)
Spamerer (please tell me know you know him takeover)
Velocity
Rookie
Ether (2x)
Dmbrandon (not sure but i think 4-5 times)
Keitaro (either once or twice)
Eazy (3-4 times)
Shadow (not the recent time, some tourney in 2008)

Just doing this so Takeover can stop killing my soul. You all know I never brag or stupid crap like this, (unless it's with falcon or vs yoshi blah blah) but yeah. This was mostly in 2008, hence why I miss it :laugh:

Back to studying.
 

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Not like i forgot how to play Snake...

My Snake accomplishments > yours homeboy.

List some of yours.
I'm not trying to prove anything, your snake is better man. :laugh:
Anyway's I don't list accomplishments or really care about who I beat, I care for my placement and trying to get better every day. I have beaten alot of people but don't remember unlike some people who brag about who they beat every post.

If you have better accomplishments than yahoo for you.
But I firmly believe the way I've recently been progressing, not talking about the past.
But within the last month, I'm twice as better than I've ever been and training harder than b4.
So I just need to prove how much I'm getting better.

@ Yes sorry I'm a scrub
I actually started playing this game in January 2009
and start experiencing my first competitive tournament in March 2009.
So I'm a newcomer to this scene and only know of snakes like Candy, Razer, Afro, Hrnut, and some others.
I'm talking about really great snakes today, if you've used snake recently and *****. Sorry that I've missed you.
I NEVER KNEW YOU USED SNAKE ANYWAY, I'VE ALWAYS SEEN YOU AS A **** FALCON MAIN. :)
 

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Im the best Snake ever. I beat Inui's everything with my Snake in super duper serious friendlies.
 

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alright i want you to go back and read my post again because you guys are reading the floor or something

Kid said the mk planked the entire match and he lost because of that. now, if a mk realistically planked the entire match, kid mustve tried to stop the planking mk with FALCO with is a NO NO. you shouldnt attempt to stop it wtf.
I'm not sure if Kid meant that the MK dair camped the entire match and only went to ledges, I'm pretty sure he means the mk planked/air planked by dairing like crazy and attempting to attack Falco on parts of the stage that did not include the boat which imo MK would have the advantage on, especially right after the ship goes away. Its not unwinable for Falco or anything but its much harder than fighting on BF, SV etc where MK vs Falco is actually 50/50.

ksizzle said:
secondly, who cares if its mk vs falco on rainbow? falco has ALL OF THE TOOLS to combat mks tools which is why it makes it an even matchup. yeah so if MK gets the lead it gets easier for the mk to win. but you guys are thinking its easy for mk to get the lead immediately. no it isnt. if i were to face dehf in tourney, even though my best matchup is falco, id probly get 2-0d with rainbow

if i start planking, he aint gonna approach like all of you guys are doing. hes gonna stay there shdl until he sees an opening. whats mk gonna do? also look for an opening. the better player will be the hardest to give out an opening.
From vids I've seen of DEHF he usually does have the lead on rainbow due to most mks being stupid and approaching in the beginning. From there, once the boat goes away he runs away the entire time till after the seesaw part. That entire period of running away he shoots 0 lasers. His goal during this time is to just avoid everything MK can do cause he knows its not smart to attack at this part. After the seesaw he'll go to the right like you said and shdl till the part the stage starts going down. At that part he'll aim to kill mk off the top if they approach him or just wait till the boat is back and then shdl there with punishes if the mk approaches. Wash rinse repeat.

When put on paper it sounds like Falco can do alot of things, like win on RC against top level mks, beat ICs players, or never switch their character no matter the cp. But sadly DEHF is the ONLY Falco to really do any of these. Most other Falco players will switch to MK on those options simply cause its the better answer. Falco is doable in those situations but if a player can get their mk to the near the same lv as their Falco than they should go for the switch on those occasions.

Regardless I think Kid should just stick to Falco for everything. It may be tough to learn but focusing on learning Falco's weakenesses and making them stronger is what you should focus on when training Kid. Hardcore learning MK is what you would need and it will only make your Falco rusty.


ksizzle said:
you know what? im talking to yes and shugo on aim right now. they agree. larry would probably agree too. this is all out of help. if you dont want help and wanna try to argue potential help. so be it. so yep keitaro continue banning RC for some reason and auto losing game 2. kid continue whining cuz you cant kill and you approach planking MKs
lol I ban Brinstar all the time dude, thats clearly Falco's worse stage. Rainbow probably isn't even half as bad for Falco as Brinstar is.
 

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lmao takeover with the best logic in the world. Inui mains MK/Snake first of all. shows how much you know. secondly, i remember when you thought zucco and Junebugs Lucario were better than mine because i didnt "main" him when everyone knows i did.(Junebugs is equal or better than mine at this point) shows how much attention you put to the scene. i bet if i didnt play meta and used another character with lucario youd think i main lucario too. makes a big difference huh? mk is the best character. i use him for ALMOST every matchup. some i use for lucario. hes one of my mains. et it memorized. and for the record That does not matter if he or anyone else didnt main any character. If hes able to take out a character that rivals or is better than most [players (like anti using snake, he doesnt main him, but its hell of a lot better than yours and equal to fatals and razers) hes still one of the besk snakes.

again, im talking to a wall.




ANTI - THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! OMG

edit - why isnt antis snake presently better than yours? is it because of his current accomplishments with snake? lol i suppose doom or pwii have better mk's than me because im inactive. continue being the jester of md va dude.
Since when did Inui main snake??
Anti is def. a legit argument to somebody maining snake and ****** with him.
 

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Keitaro - You recently started to ban brinstar. It wasnt long ago that i kept yelling at you that falco vs mk on rainbow isnt bad at all and why do you ban rc? it was recent.

Takeover- Picked him up in 2008 and beat me, spam in his prime, diem in his prime, etc. in 2009. then he became more mk focused as 2010 arrived.
 

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and regarding your last statement, about him being wayyyyyy better than me and on par with fatal/razer.

Well this is all opinion plus I can't really say anything because I have not been going to tourney's lately.
I have not really been to any nationals to prove my worth either so I'm not going to argue.

But if he's wayyy better than me, than he's wayyy better than candy. Fatal, Anti, Razer are wayyyy better than me and candy than. Candy is just a little bit better than me with more experience but he can def. protest that I'm def. one of the best snakes now.

I mean the most recent tournament I did not place 1st, but got 4th.
I beat Boss, gimr, somebody else, and Chudat.
Chudat is def. a great accomplishment considering how beast he is in that mu.

I'm def. gonna prove something to come strong at MLG DC even if I have the ****tiest seed there.

Anyway md/va is nothing compared to the godlyness to you guys so yea anti is greater snake than me. Just got to prove my worth in the future
 

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My thoughts on MK/Falco on RC

Ship: it's even, falco shouldn't approach mk, blah blah blah
Left side rising up, MK favored because of all the platforms and possible gimps you have to worry about.
Top after the swing: Falco favored: easy vertical KO for usmash, really easy to laser camp, etc.

Overall I'd say it's an even matchup there.
 

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My thoughts on MK/Falco on RC

Ship: it's even, falco shouldn't approach mk, blah blah blah
Left side rising up, MK favored because of all the platforms and possible gimps you have to worry about.
Top after the swing: Falco favored: easy vertical KO for usmash, really easy to laser camp, etc.

Overall I'd say it's an even matchup there.
well u cant gimp mk right? falco has a chance to be so its def mks favorr on RC. only way u can gimp MK is trapping him between the ship and stage when the boat falls xD
 

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IMO don't even bother with falco's cg on RC. He can do other stuff. Ship by itself is kind of a neutral, from after ship to after swing, falco should run away forever. After swing to before drop to ship, falco should laser camp and force an opening.
 

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Keitaro - You recently started to ban brinstar. It wasnt long ago that i kept yelling at you that falco vs mk on rainbow isnt bad at all and why do you ban rc? it was recent.
Yeah I did mix up between banning Brinstar and Rainbow not too long ago. Now I always ban brinstar since I got better at fighting on RC vs character.

i said plank the ship. trying to attack mk elsewhere is pretty much asking for a gimp from upB or something.
Perfect, this is what I thought you were thinking. On the boat Falco has a chance but if MK planks there then it leads avoiding nonsense: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahkZb2Q9hLQ#t=2m11s

Even DEHF went to attack a planking MK twice cause of time, he said so himself and it is clearly shown in this video as he dies both times he attempts it. He may not have gotten timed out but if he shot lasers like an idiot till the end of time obviously that wouldn't work and he would have been timed out.

If you shark correctly with mk good luck Falco shdlasering to try to catch up.
 

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Oh 2008, I miss you....
Yo thats like all I was talking about yesterday when I was hangin out w/ the Brawlers.

08 Brawl yo...the good ol days. I ain't even talkin about when I was ****, just talkin about how many ppl that used to attend tournies back then. There was such a big Brawl community back then geez loiuse was it active.
 

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Yo thats like all I was talking about yesterday when I was hangin out w/ the Brawlers.

08 Brawl yo...the good ol days. I ain't even talkin about when I was ****, just talkin about how many ppl that used to attend tournies back then. There was such a big Brawl community back then geez loiuse was it active.
Yes! likes this post.
 

ksizl4life

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Yo thats like all I was talking about yesterday when I was hangin out w/ the Brawlers.

08 Brawl yo...the good ol days. I ain't even talkin about when I was ****, just talkin about how many ppl that used to attend tournies back then. There was such a big Brawl community back then geez loiuse was it active.
that web2zone in june where i first met you/played you in tourney was sooooo pakced.

you dont see friday tourneys that stacked anymore.
 

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**** you were the only good snake in nj.
Get better with snake man. :urg:
Well I guess MK is fun too lol
LOL

NY/NJ has ~10 very good Snakes, just no actual top mains of the character. Me, Atomsk, Anti, ksizzle, NinjaLink, and others have very good Snakes.

Im the best Snake ever. I beat Inui's everything with my Snake in super duper serious friendlies.
I was playing terribly. >_>;

Since when did Inui main snake??
Anti is def. a legit argument to somebody maining snake and ****** with him.
Two weeks before teh_spamerer took 3rd at CoT4, I beat him 3-1 with Snake and dmbrandon 2-0 with Snake, winning a tournament with them, NEO, and ksizzle at it...with all Snake. Derp derp.

I have a lot of accomplishments with Snake, and the stupid rankings image doesn't have Snake next to my name because Keitaro forgot I beat a lot of people with him, even recently.
 

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08 - Where i was a **** DDD by spammin uptilt and not getting punished :)

BTW Inui MM my Mario for $5

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