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[Opossum]

But would you say it's better or worse than Mario Party Advance?

Sadly (thankfully?) I've never played it, so I'm just speaking from first-hand experience.

 

[Soul.]

The N64 Mario Party trilogy. Forever and always the best Mario Party games, especially Mario Party 3. Chilly Waters song is love
Mario Party 4 was the only good one of the GCN games imo

Chip started something Sonic games improved on. Humor. Whether it was good in Unleashed is a different question, but they started trying being comedic in Unleashed's cutscenes, something that Colours, Generations and Lost World kept

Oh yeah that's very much true; I wasn't saying he was bad or anything lol.

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

Look how fun this game looks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIA...ETAVOM_A3qKYcCDL16DOaeuqUyQWKmppfTU95accsaVtw

 

[Champ Gold]

Worst Mario game? I hated Mario Party 9, personally. Only thing I really liked was the Whittle cameo in that one minigame.

Spoiler

Mario Party games after 7 proved the point of if it ain't broken, don't screw it up and they did.

Those were the type of games that you can get away with rehashing. Just add a gimmick like 5 with the Microphone, 6 with the Day/Night system and just make the roster not kick out DK.

But nope, let's change the whole game because someone wants something different because we need "EVERYTHING" to be unique.

Seriously all Mario Party 10 needed to do was make it like 2/3/4 in HD, have Bowser Party with it but like it where it isn't 4v1 but FFA with a boss who will screw you over and go that route. But nope, MORE CARS BECAUSE EVERYONE IS A WINNER

 

[NintenZ]

Sonic Adventure had a bit more problems than just Big.

Eh, I'd rather they go back to dynamic story telling ala Sonic3&K instead of trying to be comedic. Comedy's not a bad thing to have if done right but it's too juvenile in Colors and Lost World.

I have it on the Dreamcast, it looks dated on a modern tv screen, the cutscenes are horrible, the voice acting is up there with Resident Evil and Castlevania Symphony of the Night, and the hubs are kind of a drag, but I don't really see anything else wrong.

 

[Opossum]

Those were the type of games that you can get away with rehashing. Just add a gimmick like 5 with the Microphone, 6 with the Day/Night system and just make the roster not kick out DK.

I'll admit, I laughed harder at this bit than anything else today just due to the sheer truth of it. Like seriously, why does that keep happening to DK?

 

[Solfiner]

My least favorite Mario is the lost levels, because ugh.

 

[Substitution]

Sadly (thankfully?) I've never played it, so I'm just speaking from first-hand experience.

Then thank the Lord I have. And I can safely say it's not that good. I like the little gadget things though.

 

[NintenZ]

My least favorite Mario game, Lost Levels.

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

7 was the last good Mario Party. The mini games in 8 were ruined thanks to the motion controls, and 9 and 10 have the stupid car. It's a shame because I really liked the maps in 8. I also loved playing Bowser Party with friends (that mode really should have more maps).

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Lost Levels is definitely the main Mario game that had the least thought put in to it. Only things changed were Luigi's playstyle, Poison Mushrooms and Mushrooms getting eyes. Even Mario Galaxy 2 added a lot of new Power-ups and the first ridable 3D yoshi.

I'm not too big a fan of the NEW series either besides the first one.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

My least favorite Mario is the lost levels, because ugh.

My least favorite Mario game, Lost Levels.

tfw you've beaten Lost Levels in a day or two

Granted it was the Mario Deluxe edition on the eshop, but still

 

[Luigi The President]

My least favorite Mario is the lost levels, because ugh.

...Can I ask about your sig? I'm sorry, I just had absolutely no idea who Timy Grimm was until I googled him.

 

[Solfiner]

...Can I ask about your sig? I'm sorry, I just had absolutely no idea who Timy Grimm was until I googled him.

It's the best character in the Pokémon anime of course.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

tfw you've beaten Lost Levels in a day or two

Granted it was the Mario Deluxe edition on the eshop, but still

That version at least has the advantage of the Poison Shroom having a completely different design so it's easier to avoid.

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

I need to get Mario Sports Mix still, it's the only Mario related Wii game I don't own (not counting Mario Party 9, but I don't think I need to get that game).

 

[Firus]

Even Mario Galaxy 2 added a lot of new Power-ups and the first ridable 3D yoshi.

Well, technically that last one was Sunshine.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Well, technically that last one was Sunshine.

To be fair people want to forget vomiting Yoshi's

 

[Substitution]

I'm more sympathetic when it comes to the NSMB series. Oh sure it recycled a lot, and the last three games were just the same exact game (with two actually being the same game), but it played well; it was a Mario game, and that's all it intended to be.

Now Super Mario Land 1 on the other hand is awful. Yes it was their first attempt with putting Mario on the handheld, but it has not aged well. At all.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Wait. No one mentioned Super Mario RPG Sticker Star yet. What madness is this?

 

[NintenZ]

Sticker Star was also pretty bad. Worst Paper Mario EVER!

Edit: 'd!

 

[Starlight_Lily]

All these debates on what the worst Sonic game is, what about the worst Mario game?

Let's make things interesting and not count the CDi or "educational" games (Mario teaches syping, MArio is missing ect)

Wait there's a game that has Mario teaching Spying?

While that's cool be he's more of a Master of breaking and entering, if you want to learn spying tactics, Nabbit being a thief would be a better choice for tatjon honestly

 

[NintenZ]

Wonder where our next Squirtle, Pirate Ship, Metal character leak is.

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

What about Mario Tennis for the Virtual Boy?

 

[Chrono.]

Galaxy 2 is a game that would've easily been an Expansion Pack DLC had Galaxy 1 been on the Wii U.

Also while I don't dislike NSMBU, can I just say the Flying Squirrel is literally the worst power up in the series?

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Galaxy 2 is a game that would've easily been an Expansion Pack DLC had Galaxy 1 been on the Wii U.

Like Super Luigi U?

Super Luigi Galaxy...

 

[Starlight_Lily]

Mario Party games after 7 proved the point of if it ain't broken, don't screw it up and they did.

Those were the type of games that you can get away with rehashing. Just add a gimmick like 5 with the Microphone, 6 with the Day/Night system and just make the roster not kick out DK.

But nope, let's change the whole game because someone wants something different because we need "EVERYTHING" to be unique.

Seriously all Mario Party 10 needed to do was make it like 2/3/4 in HD, have Bowser Party with it but like it where it isn't 4v1 but FFA with a boss who will screw you over and go that route. But nope, MORE CARS BECAUSE EVERYONE IS A WINNER

I'm going to bluntly honest here, but you lot saying Mario Party 9 and 10 simply because you don't like the gameplay style doesn't make it a bad game, and this may shock many of you, but quite a few people like Mario Party 9 and 10's gamplay style.

There I said it now I'm just going to wait for you lot to call me wrong just because I said not liking a gameplay style doesn't make the game a bad game...

 

[Oasis Dealer]

To be fair people want to forget vomiting Yoshi's

Anyways, had an "anime club" at school today. We messed around for a good 20 minutes just talking. Then we watched Donkey Kong Country.

I can already tell this is way better than last year's.

 

[Omega Tyrant]

The worst Mario I played would be the original in my view; Mario controls like Fox with Luigi's traction, the content is pretty lackluster even by NES standards, and the game becomes very repetitive after the first couple of worlds. While I've beaten a bunch of the classic hard NES games, I've never been able to sit down and beat the original SMB, even when using the warp pipes, because I can't enjoy it enough to play it for more than an hour at a time. And it's just completely outclassed by SMB3 on the same console, there's really no reason to play it nowadays outside of nostalgia.

Runnerup would be NSMBWii, because it's just absolutely forgettable.

 

[MainJPW]

I have it on the Dreamcast, it looks dated on a modern tv screen, the cutscenes are horrible, the voice acting is up there with Resident Evil and Castlevania Symphony of the Night, and the hubs are kind of a drag, but I don't really see anything else wrong.

Eh, I actually do love Sonic Adventure but I'd hardly call it good today. I don't have a problem with the control but what I don't like is that Sonic's interaction with inclinations and loops is almost non-existent which would've lent itself to some cool level design potential closer to the classic games, which if you've ever researched into the development history of Sonic Adventure and seen the prototype version of Windy Valley and the 2 test stages was actually the original concept for the game. Some levels also have some really lazy design due to homing attack chains not to mention the homing attack itself being a bit buggy. Amy, Gamma and Big aren't utilized to their full potential and Tails and Knuckles's levels are just too short.

The hub worlds to me are fine to me in that they're small enough to navigate quickly and big enough to provide some exploration, the stages however don't do as such. Their's too many linear pathways riddled with dash panels and automated pathways, they also have a tendency to glitch out and of course all of this is a shame since the beta version of Windy Valley was a lot more wider and fluid and there's a lot less forced progression in that case not to mention it incorporated a lot of classic elements such as rolling level design of which didn't make it to the final game. Basically the levels in the final game are boring and repetitive, however, it's still handled better here than in later 3d entries where they become even more linear and rely even more on speed when they should've capitalized on the developmental short comings of Sonic Adventure instead.

 

[SlickWylde]

@Alder

The worst Mario I played would be the original in my view; Mario controls like Fox with Luigi's traction, the content is pretty lackluster even by NES standards, and the game becomes very repetitive after the first couple of worlds. While I've beaten a bunch of the classic hard NES games, I've never been able to sit down and beat the original SMB, even when using the warp pipes, because I can't enjoy it enough to play it for more than an hour at a time. And it's just completely outclassed by SMB3 on the same console, there's really no reason to play it nowadays outside of nostalgia.

Runnerup would be NSMBWii, because it's just absolutely forgettable.

You. Get out. GET OUT!

If I had a giant shoe right now (And could resist eating eat) I would step on your virtual representation! >) jk. But because I played Super Mario Bros before any others, I see it very differently. Of course the others are more advanced, but I appreciate it for the work of art that it is, especially considering it's the first of its time

 

[Jdaster64]

Worst main-series game that I've played (i.e., not NSMB2, or Yoshi's Island if it counts) is probably NSMBU. Playing through the single-player, it was always either bland or gimmicky, with a couple of needlessly (and I'd wager unintentionally) hard-to-find secrets. Like 2-4's secret exit, which requires you to run backwards up against what appears for all intents and purposes to be a solid wall in an otherwise sparse area while small. Why?

Also, having played every console Mario Party through 9 and DS, 4 is the only one I wouldn't care to play ever again, because I hate the board maps, the mini-mega gimmick is annoying, and there weren't any more minigames than there were in 3. Personally, I like 3, 5, 6, and DS the best overall, particularly 3, as all of the boards are pretty enjoyable.

 

[Omega Tyrant]

@Alder


You. Get out. GET OUT!

If I had a giant shoe right now (And could resist eating eat) I would step on your virtual representation! >) jk. But because I played Super Mario Bros before any others, I see it very differently. Of course the others are more advanced, but I appreciate it for the work of art that it is, especially considering it's the first of its time

I played it first as a kid, and even with some nostalgia for it, I can't get over the problems I described. I additionally don't think if a game came "first" in its series matters if the sequels do everything better. Similarly, I think Pokemon Red/Blue are the worst pokemon games in the series by a significant margin, even with my intense dislike of gen 3 and having very strong nostalgia for gen 1.

 

[Soul.]

Once again, I stand by saying Mario Party 3 is the best MP game. DS was cool, basically the handheld MP game Advance and Island Tour should have been. The latter is just so... "race to the finish."

 

[Omega Tyrant]

Once again, I stand by saying Mario Party 3 is the best MP game. DS was cool, basically the handheld MP game Advance and Island Tour should have been. The latter is just so... "race to the finish."

I agree Mario Party 3 was the best Mario Party game, and I'm really annoyed it never came to VC, especially when MP2 (my least favorite of the N64 trilogy) was released on it.

 

[Chrono.]

Out of the 3D games, SM64 is the worst of the lot (the controls were awful and then there's the camera).

I mean yeah it's understandable because it's the first time Mario went 3D, but the other 3D Mario games improved on everything and now it's a pain for me to go back to SM64.

It's not even just the later 3D Marios other 3D platformers that came out during the same time did a lot of things SM64 did better (Banjo-Kazooie comes to mind).

 

[LIQUID12A]

Worst mainline Mario?

Lost Levels.

That is all.

 

[Soul.]

I agree Mario Party 3 was the best Mario Party game, and I'm really annoyed it never came to VC, especially when MP2 (my least favorite of the N64 trilogy) was released on it.

I really never understood why didn't they bother releasing it on VC. The only one that had problems was the original Mario Party, given the control stick minigames. I'm not sure if they'll ever fix those by repeatedly pressing the A button or something but since it's an old game by now, I doubt it.

mp2 is overrated

 

[Deleted member]

The worst Mario game imo is SMB
It's pretty fun but I hate the physics, but thankfully, Mario Maker seems to have fixed it to be more similar to later games

Best Mario game will always be SMW and I'm totally not biased by nostalgia
Cape, Yoshi, secret exits, Cape, Spin Jump, Cape, etc.

NSMB may have been repetitive after a while but they still had some of the most fun powerups, Blue Shell is near perfection

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

Once again, I stand by saying Mario Party 3 is the best MP game. DS was cool, basically the handheld MP game Advance and Island Tour should have been. The latter is just so... "race to the finish."

Oh God, I forgot about Island Tour, that's probably the worst Mario game I've actually played.