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Ow the Edge is one of the worst Sonic games period, it tried way to hard to be edge and the story was a complete mess. The gameplay wasn't good either, it was very boring and lazy, and making Shadow an imortal alien was so stupid that I just can't go on. It's stupid.
It actually makes sense.

Watching some of the Hellfire Commentaries playthroughs of some of the Sonic games, they expressed the view that Shadow being created by the Black Arms (and thus making him a Half-Hedgehog Hybrid) was really stupid and not needed... but at the same time, they puzzled over how Professor Gerald, in his experiments to make the Ultimate Life-Form, went from The Biolizard to Shadow, with no other prototypes in the middle. That's when I realised that him being created by the Black Arms was actually necessary to explain why Gerald made the technological leap that he did: using his own intelligence and resources, the best he could come up with was the Biolizard, a creature which clearly wasn't up to scratch. At that point, he encountered the Black Arms, and they gave him the information and resources he needed to create Shadow — they actually say in the game that "He needed a little help", so they helped him out. The game Shadow the Hedgehog basically explains every plot hole from Sonic Adventure 2, both why the Eclipse cannon was made and how Shadow was made (sorry, Hellfire Commentaries - no offence was intended).
 

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Ow the Edge is one of the worst Sonic games period, it tried way to hard to be edge and the story was a complete mess. The gameplay wasn't good either, it was very boring and lazy, and making Shadow an imortal alien was so stupid that I just can't go on. It's stupid.
I wouldn't call it one of the worst. Is it stupid? Yes. Did it really need to exist? No. But incompetency can only go so far when Sega has proven that yes, they can do worse.
 

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Shadow should've just stayed dead.

It's incredible how the only game to do his character justice since he came back was Sonic 06 of all things.
 

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I disagree with having Shadow stay dead his main issue is that writers don't know what to do with him, case and point, Rise of Lyric. Ironically, Shattered Crystal gave us part of the Shadow we all knew and love, a no nonsense character who gets **** done, I also think Shadow was something 06 did pretty well. As for his own game...The 'candy from a baby' line is the best thing from it. It's so stupid
 

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I disagree with having Shadow stay dead his main issue is that writers don't know what to do with him, case and point, Rise of Lyric. Ironically, Shattered Crystal gave us part of the Shadow we all knew and love, a no nonsense character who gets **** done, I also think Shadow was something 06 did pretty well. As for his own game...The 'candy from a baby' line is the best thing from it. It's so stupid
Sammyclassicshadowfan?
 

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I'm not that big on Shadow really. If anything, I feel like they should have kept his beta name Terios
Sammyclassicteriosfan? Doesn't have the best ring to it, but knowing him he'd probably choose it.
I hear Shadow talk and all I can think about is Kill la Kill
I think we'd be here forever if we listed all the comparisons.
 
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Sammyclassicteriosfan? Doesn't have the best ring to it, but knowing him he'd probably choose it.

I think we'd be here forever if we listed all the comparisons.
Super Ryoko Matoi!!!!
Then let's do it
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Non-Shadow comparisons
Something something Monado
 
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Every time I watch a Shadow video I can't help but laugh at "ow the edge"
Doom's weak point in his game was... um, following Shadow?
 

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All these debates on what the worst Sonic game is, what about the worst Mario game?

Let's make things interesting and not count the CDi or "educational" games (Mario teaches syping, MArio is missing ect)
 

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All these debates on what the worst Sonic game is, what about the worst Mario game?

Let's make things interesting and not count the CDi or "educational" games (Mario teaches syping, MArio is missing ect)
Mario Galaxy 2 :troll:
In all seriousness, didn't enjoy that

****. We forgot the best Sonic character of all time. Professor Pickle
 

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All these debates on what the worst Sonic game is, what about the worst Mario game?

Let's make things interesting and not count the CDi or "educational" games (Mario teaches syping, MArio is missing ect)
NSMBWii

It's really boring if you don't have 3 other people to mess around with.
 

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All these debates on what the worst Sonic game is, what about the worst Mario game?

Let's make things interesting and not count the CDi or "educational" games (Mario teaches syping, MArio is missing ect)
Just curious, does this include ports as well or just the games themselves?
 

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The best Sonic character is Chip, the annoying red thing that is Light Gaia
 

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I don't know. Are any terrible Mario ports?
Well... There was this one port of Super Mario Bros...
I mean, I'll give Hudson Soft this, with the technology they were given it was the best they could have done at the time. But just look at it!

If I had to pick something else, I'd say Mario FUNdamentals. Because nothing says Mario like desktop card games.
 

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Chip started something Sonic games improved on. Humor. Whether it was good in Unleashed is a different question, but they started trying being comedic in Unleashed's cutscenes, something that Colours, Generations and Lost World kept
But what about his voice?
 

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By the way, I'm surprised Ahmed Mohamed or something wasn't mentioned yet, a 14 year old muslim kid made a clock and showed it to a teacher. He got arrested. That's ****ing disgusting, apparently Obama said something about how he liked the little clock, so that's heartwarming
But what about his voice?
Unleashed had some pretty decent VA work, because they got a director
 
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By the way, I'm surprised Ahmed Mohamed or something wasn't mentioned yet, a 14 year old muslim kid made a clock and showed it to a teacher. He got arrested. That's ****ing disgusting, apparently Obama said something about how he liked the little clock, so that's heartwarming
Why am I not surprised?
 

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Worst Mario game? I hated Mario Party 9, personally. Only thing I really liked was the Whittle cameo in that one minigame.

 

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Why am I not surprised?
Honestly, it's bull****. Some Christians are homophobic, yet Christians are almost always portrayalled as nice people, yet some muslims are terrorists, but they all get treated like terrorists. Granted, here in the Netherlands, muslim people act anti-social, but I'm certain that's just a coincidence
 

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By the way, I'm surprised Ahmed Mohamed or something wasn't mentioned yet, a 14 year old muslim kid made a clock and showed it to a teacher. He got arrested. That's ****ing disgusting, apparently Obama said something about how he liked the little clock, so that's heartwarming

Unleashed had some pretty decent VA work, because they got a director
Obama invited him to the White House, which was awesome of him. :p
 

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The only reason I don't like him, is because if it weren't for him, SA1 would've been the best game imo.
Sonic Adventure had a bit more problems than just Big.
Chip started something Sonic games improved on. Humor. Whether it was good in Unleashed is a different question, but they started trying being comedic in Unleashed's cutscenes, something that Colours, Generations and Lost World kept
Eh, I'd rather they go back to dynamic story telling ala Sonic3&K instead of trying to be comedic. Comedy's not a bad thing to have if done right but it's too juvenile in Colors and Lost World.
 

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Worst Mario game? I hated Mario Party 9, personally. Only thing I really liked was the Whittle cameo in that one minigame.

MP has gone downhill since 4, but at least it remained decent until 8.

Now it's just 'what'.
 
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