Nickelodeon All-Stars Brawl General Thread - All Star Brawl 2 Available Today!

[LimeTH]

Sitting here thinking hypothetically, if I'd be okay with any cuts if it meant a better chance of solo Beavers. Like, either everyone is back and Beavers are a duo or we lose one character and solo Beavers gets to happen and hmmm...

I guess I'd cut Sandy, much as it would suck to lose her. Don't want to lose Toph or Helga and it wouldn't be right getting rid of Lincoln, Hugh or PTM. They would be stupid to trade out the other two Turtles and it would make no sense to kick out Shredder now when there's a bigger emphasis on villains. Also, Spongebob having one more character than it did last time, it isn't really dying for refs right now compared to the likes of CatDog and ARM. Sorry Sandy.

 

[Guynamednelson]

IF there are any veterans cut, it shouldn't be underestimated that one of them could show up in the DLC pass.

I see people acting like it'd be impossible and/or scummy for a cut vet to take up one of the pass's slots, and I think they're too used to how SSBU didn't have any in its Fighters Passes without considering that it didn't because it couldn't.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

I see people acting like it'd be impossible and/or scummy for a cut vet to take up one of the pass's slots, and I think they're too used to how SSBU didn't have any in its Fighters Passes without considering that it didn't because it couldn't.

They're already doing a mystery pass, they pretty clearly don't care what is "scummy".

 

[LimeTH]

They're already doing a mystery pass, they pretty clearly don't care what is "scummy".

And digital only content for 20 bucks extra.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Any proof that there will be any cuts? I have my concerns, but I don't think anyone would get cut in this game. NASB3 has a good chance of losing a good amount

 

[Fields - Ultimate's Great]

I don't really care, don't make me pay for bare minimum characters, If they're gonna be excluded just exclude them and go for the new stuff than making your audience pay for the cut chars when that spot could've went to a highly requested character instead.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

I really like how all of the super moves we've seen so far (Not counting the might-be-might-not-be Lucy super from the trailer) aren't the characters at their most powerful, but rather at their most destructive. Feels a lot more fitting for a comedic cartoon character's most powerful move to just be them overreacting to a spider on their back or trying to show off their buff bod and causing chaos in the process than going into their ultra super form. Plus, I'm pretty sure that when we get to the played-straight superheroes, they'll be doing their actual superpowers.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

I really like how all of the super moves we've seen so far (Not counting the might-be-might-not-be Lucy super from the trailer) aren't the characters at their most powerful, but rather at their most destructive. Feels a lot more fitting for a comedic cartoon character's most powerful move to just be them overreacting to a spider on their back or trying to show off their buff bod and causing chaos in the process than going into their ultra super form. Plus, I'm pretty sure that when we get to the played-straight superheroes, they'll be doing their actual superpowers.

I wouldn't call Handsome squidward his most destructive moment really. He just hit a wall. If you want a destructive moment it could have been him hitting the opponent with a marble until he create the statue. Or it could have been his house destroying the town. Or maybe the April fool prank where he would put the opponent on a rope and he would fly in the Krusty krabs and hit the wall.

 

[Quick Gaming (QG)]

So here’s a bit of a different speculation topic, I’ve compiled what I view as the 20 most likely characters for DLC (again, just my opinion/perspective) and was curious to see if y’all agree or disagree

Yeah I know it’s super early to be speculating DLC but I feel like we’re at a bit of an impasse regarding cut characters so wanted to suggest something different

Spoiler: Kinda gives away who isn’t in the base roster

 

[CapitaineCrash]

Do we know if dlc characters comes with stage? If they do come with stage I could see them focusing more on unrep series, but if there's no stages I think this would give a better chances to another Loud sisters or Rugrats babies for example.

 

[RileyXY1]

Do we know if dlc characters comes with stage? If they do come with stage I could see them focusing more on unrep series, but if there's no stages I think this would give a better chances to another Loud sisters or Rugrats babies for example.

We don't, as they never specified that they would come with a stage. We'll just have to wait and see when they reveal the first DLC character.

 

[Quick Gaming (QG)]

Do we know if dlc characters comes with stage? If they do come with stage I could see them focusing more on unrep series, but if there's no stages I think this would give a better chances to another Loud sisters or Rugrats babies for example.

I’m admittedly more concerned about stage cameos. Cause if Mr. Krabs can be one, then just about anyone regardless how requested probably could be. Heck I’m already expecting Zuko to be one for that one Avatar stage

 

[RileyXY1]

I’m admittedly more concerned about stage cameos. Cause if Mr. Krabs can be one, then just about anyone regardless how requested probably could be. Heck I’m already expecting Zuko to be one for that one Avatar stage

As well as Lincoln on the Loud Castle stage.

 

[Quick Gaming (QG)]

I’m admittedly more concerned about stage cameos. Cause if Mr. Krabs can be one, then just about anyone regardless how requested probably could be. Heck I’m already expecting Zuko to be one for that one Avatar stage

That’s of course not to say stage cameos can’t be playable obviously they can, I’m just under the impression that they’ve probably already decided DLC and stage cameos, at least to me, always felt like a consolation prize for a characters lack of roster inclusion

 

[CapitaineCrash]

I’m admittedly more concerned about stage cameos. Cause if Mr. Krabs can be one, then just about anyone regardless how requested probably could be. Heck I’m already expecting Zuko to be one for that one Avatar stage

That's true, but I'm assuming that they've already chosen who will be the 4 dlc so if Krabs is a cameo that probably means that he was never on the table even as dlc in the first place (unless the team is open to stage cameo being playable).

 

[darkvortex]

I’m admittedly more concerned about stage cameos. Cause if Mr. Krabs can be one, then just about anyone regardless how requested probably could be. Heck I’m already expecting Zuko to be one for that one Avatar stage

I actually expect this since the location chosen is from a very Zuko centric episode

 

[Ze Diglett]

That's true, but I'm assuming that they've already chosen who will be the 4 dlc so if Krabs is a cameo that probably means that he was never on the table even as dlc in the first place (unless the team is open to stage cameo being playable).

I mean, these devs have taken stage cameos into account before with the whole Spunky on Rocko's stage situation. I wouldn't be surprised if they knew a character was planned for DLC, but wanted to give them a presence in the base game regardless.

 

[UserKev]

Eh? Avatar is the last Nick series I actually care about. But other than seeing Zuko or Azula, I actually really want to see Iroh. He's underrated and is a staple. Splinter from TMNT is another want I would like.

I don't care for Plankton. Squidward was already the perfect antagonist for Spongebob in any sense.

 

[darkvortex]

I am betting on the DLC being all new series tbh. Maybe a Rugrats character or something I could see but I think Zuko and Krabs will be NASB3 if anything

Eh? Avatar is the last Nick series I actually care about. But other than seeing Zuko or Azula, I actually really want to see Iroh. He's underrated and is a staple. Splinter from TMNT is another want I would like.

I don't care for Plankton. Squidward was already the perfect antagonist for Spongebob in any sense.

azula is in

 

[fogbadge]

Eh? Avatar is the last Nick series I actually care about. But other than seeing Zuko or Azula, I actually really want to see Iroh. He's underrated and is a staple. Splinter from TMNT is another want I would like.

I don't care for Plankton. Squidward was already the perfect antagonist for Spongebob in any sense.

i think they’re going for genuinely evil antagonists

 

[RileyXY1]

i think they’re going for genuinely evil antagonists

Spoiler

That's one of the reasons why I think Azula was chosen over Zuko.

 

[Master Hero Sock-on-Rye]

So here’s a bit of a different speculation topic, I’ve compiled what I view as the 20 most likely characters for DLC (again, just my opinion/perspective) and was curious to see if y’all agree or disagree

Yeah I know it’s super early to be speculating DLC but I feel like we’re at a bit of an impasse regarding cut characters so wanted to suggest something different

Spoiler: Kinda gives away who isn’t in the base roster

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I'd actually be fine with any combination of these 20. Not a stinker in the orchard.

I would personally place bets on a Rugrat, Timmy Turner, Otis, and Miko as the four DLC characters. I figure those four are the ones that would sell the pack for many of us.

 

[darkvortex]

Im thinking Snap, Timmy, Otis and then I'm unsure for a fourth

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

No idea why wanting no cuts is considered a bad thing now...

 

[Guynamednelson]

I don't really care, don't make me pay for bare minimum characters, If they're gonna be excluded just exclude them and go for the new stuff than making your audience pay for the cut chars when that spot could've went to a highly requested character instead.

Fighting games sell cut veterans as DLC all the time, one game being unable to doesn't mean it isn't normal. It isn't bare minimum anyway when they have to redo all their animations.

 

[Ze Diglett]

Fighting games sell cut veterans as DLC all the time, one game being unable to doesn't mean it isn't normal. It isn't bare minimum anyway when they have to redo all their animations.

Cool. Doesn't make it not lame for one of the four known slots to be eaten by a character we've already seen before.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Cool. Doesn't make it not lame for one of the four known slots to be eaten by a character we've already seen before.

Some people thought Hugh was lame for being a meme, and some thought Rocko was lame for being from the 90's. They're not gonna please everyone with every single pick.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

No idea why wanting no cuts is considered a bad thing now...

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Regardless of whether the intent of this post was civil or not, it's pretty apparent to me that it's saying "no cuts won't happen", not "no cuts shouldn't happen", which £20 says they're right on (and also that the last patty doesn't mean anything, which £100 says they're right on). Please brace yourselves for cuts - you don't have to like them, or even think they're likely, but don't get your hopes up for a character who isn't confirmed - even if they wouldn't make sense objectively to cut.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Spoiler: Swears

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[DrifloonEmpire]

Problem is, pretty much everyone that hasn't been confirmed yet is either representing a whole series (CatDog, Oblina), is a Nick superstar (Lincoln, The Turtles), or both. Or if not that then they're synonymous with the game and practically a franchise mascot (Hugh, Powedered Toast Man). Its not like Smash, with characters like Snake, Wolf, Ice Climbers, or Pichu, which are either a difficult third party or not really essential to the roster. Wolf being absent from a Smash roster doesn't make a roster feel like its mising something, and Pichu's absence certainly isn't felt. But someone like Helga's would.

 

[LimeTH]

Problem is, pretty much everyone that hasn't been confirmed yet is either representing a whole series (CatDog, Oblina), is a Nick superstar (Lincoln, The Turtles), or both. Or if not that then they're synonymous with the game and practically a franchise mascot (Hugh, Powedered Toast Man). Its not like Smash, with characters like Snake, Wolf, Ice Climbers, or Pichu, which are either a difficult third party or not really essential to the roster. Wolf being absent from a Smash roster doesn't make a roster feel like its mising something, and Pichu's absence certainly isn't felt. But someone like Helga's would.

Ice Climbers not essential to the roster

You take that back.

 

[Opossum]

Problem is, pretty much everyone that hasn't been confirmed yet is either representing a whole series (CatDog, Oblina), is a Nick superstar (Lincoln, The Turtles), or both. Or if not that then they're synonymous with the game and practically a franchise mascot (Hugh, Powedered Toast Man). Its not like Smash, with characters like Snake, Wolf, Ice Climbers, or Pichu, why are either a difficult third party or not really essential to the roster.

And yet Smash at one point cut Mewtwo, one of the most popular Pokémon of all time, who really has none of the hallmarks of other cut characters.

Time constraints are very much a thing and sometimes choices need to be made. I don't think ALL eleven are gone (I definitely don't see Sandy, Helga, Hugh, CatDog, or Toph leaving, personally), but I'm absolutely expecting at least a few cuts. It would be wise to be a bit more open minded about the possibility of cuts.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Problem is, pretty much everyone that hasn't been confirmed yet is either representing a whole series (CatDog, Oblina), is a Nick superstar (Lincoln, The Turtles), or both. Or if not that then they're synonymous with the game and practically a franchise mascot (Hugh, Powedered Toast Man). Its not like Smash, with characters like Snake, Wolf, Ice Climbers, or Pichu, which are either a difficult third party or not really essential to the roster. Wolf being absent from a Smash roster doesn't make a roster feel like its mising something, and Pichu's absence certainly isn't felt. But someone like Helga's would.

i felt pichu's absence #youwerenevergonnagetscizoranyway

At the same time, they don't have unlimited resources just because NASB2 looks higher-budget, and if the leak is any indication, they'd have to make at least 37 characters from scratch in order to bring everyone back.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Problem is, pretty much everyone that hasn't been confirmed yet is either representing a whole series (CatDog, Oblina), is a Nick superstar (Lincoln, The Turtles), or both. Or if not that then they're synonymous with the game and practically a franchise mascot (Hugh, Powedered Toast Man). Its not like Smash, with characters like Snake, Wolf, Ice Climbers, or Pichu, why are either a difficult third party or not really essential to the roster.

Even if we're to assume Smash rules apply to NASB... Smash cut Mewtwo. One of the most beloved characters to come out of Nintendo, verging on being more popular than Pikachu.

 

[fogbadge]

And yet Smash at one point cut Mewtwo, one of the most popular Pokémon of all time, who really has none of the hallmarks of other cut characters.

he is a clone

 

[Guynamednelson]

And yet Smash at one point cut Mewtwo, one of the most popular Pokémon of all time, who really has none of the hallmarks of other cut characters.

And looking outside the boundaries of Smash unlike people who think cut vets being in the DLC are impossible/would suck, let's check out Marvel vs. Capcom.

3 cut Mega Man, the very mascot of Capcom itself, and while Infinite heavily promoted the fact that it had another Mega Man on the roster, it cut out the entirety of X-Men, one of Marvel's biggest series which is responsible for the existence of MvC itself and the success of its own movies helped lead to the MCU which MvCI is heavily based on.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

And looking outside the boundaries of Smash unlike people who think cut vets being in the DLC are impossible/would suck, let's check out Marvel vs. Capcom.

3 cut Mega Man, the very mascot of Capcom itself, and while Infinite heavily promoted the fact that it had another Mega Man on the roster, it cut out the entirety of X-Men, one of Marvel's biggest series which is responsible for the existence of MvC itself and the success of its own movies helped lead to the MCU which MvCI is heavily based on.

I would argue that Ryu is Capcom's mascot, not Mega Man.

 

[Guynamednelson]

I would argue that Ryu is Capcom's mascot, not Mega Man.

Either way he's a notable Capcom character not on MvC3's roster.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

The definition of "mascot" in gaming circles, in general, is really weird and vague. People will just look at a cartoonish character and instantly assume they MUST be a corporate mascot just on virtue of having eyes bigger than a biscuit, even when they've never been used as representatives of the company cough*Rayman*cough

 

[Ze Diglett]

And yet Smash at one point cut Mewtwo, one of the most popular Pokémon of all time, who really has none of the hallmarks of other cut characters.

Don't remind me.

he is a clone

Alright, good joke.

And looking outside the boundaries of Smash unlike people who think cut vets being in the DLC are impossible/would suck,

You don't need to be a Smash fan to be think one or more characters in a four-character DLC pass being someone we already played as last year is lame, i.e. me. Even if the moveset's changed, it's a bit of a waste IMO when you're working with a catalog as iconic and extensive as Nickelodeon's.