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Nickelodeon All-Stars Brawl General Thread - All Star Brawl 2 Available Today!

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This must feel pretty cathartic for our tabby one. Any chances the Bikini Atoll explosion will be edited onto gameplay of this move?
Is it just me or are fighters more affected by the lighting in Garfield's Dream than they are in other stages? Will we see that get applied to the base stages?
 

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Earlier when i was seeing the footage of Garfield's Trailer, i noticed some fangs on Garf's mouth while he starts cat scratching.

A Garfield Show Reference?
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Something a bit unrelated,but when the garfield patch comes out I wonder if we'll get more updates on shredder in the game files
 

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Is it true that Nick All Star fans hate modern shows and don't want fighters from it?

(the one they hate the most is pretty much Loud House)
 

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Is it true that Nick All Star fans hate modern shows and don't want fighters from it?

(the one they hate the most is pretty much Loud House)
Not all of them, but there's a lot of players who hate on modern Nick shows, especially the Loud House.


This thread's comments section is full of intolerant people.
 
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Is it true that Nick All Star fans hate modern shows and don't want fighters from it?

(the one they hate the most is pretty much Loud House)
Nick All Star fan here. My favorite Nick show is Loud House... then again I think it depends on the person. I didn't have cable growing up so basically everyone except the Ninja Turtles characters were complete unknowns to me (I did know who Spongebob was though).

Since the game was announced I've been trying to watch some of the shows to better understand who the characters are.

By the way, I'm not counting Garfield in the above sentences. Mostly because I know him and he's had a 16 year long nightmare at the amusement park I live near.
 

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Is it true that Nick All Star fans hate modern shows and don't want fighters from it?

(the one they hate the most is pretty much Loud House)
Seems like it. People tend to pre-emptively **** on stuff they didn't grow up with before giving any of it a chance.

Though to be honest with you, I feel like part of the reason there are so few modern day Nick characters in the game is because Loud House is the only one that was allowed to last long enough to make an impact. Nick goes through new shows like tissue paper these days because they insist they have to pull Sponge numbers right off the bat. Not even TMNT is safe from that.
 
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Is it true that Nick All Star fans hate modern shows and don't want fighters from it?

(the one they hate the most is pretty much Loud House)
There is a subset of loud, stupid, NASB fans who are like that yes. I imagine it's an expression of the more general phenomenon of people who reflexively hate anything they associate with children, which I've never understood.

I'd like to think they're a loud minority.
 
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For a little more context...

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Seems like Rep was scared a leak could cause Nick to pull out. Also note the use of the word "franchise" to describe NASB and not, like, "this one game and this one game only"... Him lying here is kind of funny when the reaction to the Toph leak was so... divergent lol.

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It's also confirmed Garfield was pushed for by someone at GameMill, so they do have power over character selection to some extent. Rep also reiterated that characters will not be selected by one person in particular and is a group effort.


Alexis has previously indicated that Jenny's inclusion from the base game was for a funny reason, which makes me think that she may have been considered but dismissed due to the association with, uh, certain parts of the internet, if you catch my drift.
 

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For a little more context...

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Seems like Rep was scared a leak could cause Nick to pull out. Also note the use of the word "franchise" to describe NASB and not, like, "this one game and this one game only"... Him lying here is kind of funny when the reaction to the Toph leak was so... divergent lol.

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It's also confirmed Garfield was pushed for by someone at GameMill, so they do have power over character selection to some extent. Rep also reiterated that characters will not be selected by one person in particular and is a group effort.


Alexis has previously indicated that Jenny's inclusion from the base game was for a funny reason, which makes me think that she may have been considered but dismissed due to the association with, uh, certain parts of the internet, if you catch my drift.
kinda of weird for that decision i think.(Regarding the spoiler) Ik what they mean, but i mean, i don't think that should be a reason not to tbh
 

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For a little more context...

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Seems like Rep was scared a leak could cause Nick to pull out. Also note the use of the word "franchise" to describe NASB and not, like, "this one game and this one game only"... Him lying here is kind of funny when the reaction to the Toph leak was so... divergent lol.

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It's also confirmed Garfield was pushed for by someone at GameMill, so they do have power over character selection to some extent. Rep also reiterated that characters will not be selected by one person in particular and is a group effort.


Alexis has previously indicated that Jenny's inclusion from the base game was for a funny reason, which makes me think that she may have been considered but dismissed due to the association with, uh, certain parts of the internet, if you catch my drift.
I doubt it's from the internet, gotta be way funnier than "internet baaaad".
 

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Not even TMNT is safe from that.
TMNT's inclusion in the game is some sort of weird classic/modern limbo: They're based on the incarnation that debuted in 1987, but the basic concept of TMNT in a Nick game is modern Nick representation.

The same could be said about Garfield: Only recently could a game with NASB's budget easily acquire the license to use Garfield alongside other characters Viacom owns, but he's had history with Nick before Viacom bought him.
 

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For a little more context...

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Seems like Rep was scared a leak could cause Nick to pull out. Also note the use of the word "franchise" to describe NASB and not, like, "this one game and this one game only"... Him lying here is kind of funny when the reaction to the Toph leak was so... divergent lol.

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It's also confirmed Garfield was pushed for by someone at GameMill, so they do have power over character selection to some extent. Rep also reiterated that characters will not be selected by one person in particular and is a group effort.


Alexis has previously indicated that Jenny's inclusion from the base game was for a funny reason, which makes me think that she may have been considered but dismissed due to the association with, uh, certain parts of the internet, if you catch my drift.
...I don't really see how those parts of the internet could've affected her chances for the base game, but hopefully Jenny still has a chance as DLC.
 

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I'm pretty ambivalent to The Loud House myself. I haven't seen it, and from what I hear it is pretty generic as far as Nicktoons go, but if they announce a third Loud House character someday, I won't be rioting in the streets over it. It'd just be... whatever, y'know?
Well hot-diggety-dog, that's pretty much what I was assuming happened from the beginning. I'm glad Ludosity's future with the franchise is water-tight now and Rep doesn't have to worry about leaks like this ruining them anymore.
 

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...I don't really see how those parts of the internet could've affected her chances for the base game, but hopefully Jenny still has a chance as DLC.
She seems extraordinarily confident in Jenny's chances overall, for whatever that is worth.

I think Game Mill having some sway over character choices does generally increase the odds of getting some more mainstream stuff in the game and I especially feel like the odds have slightly increase for Star Trek Prodigy content.... for whatever that is worth; I have heard literally nothing about that show since it premiered. Is it good? Is it bad? Idk. I guess maybe no news is good news, but Lower Decks at least got people talking...
 

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2 things I find confusing here.

1: Why are people surprised Garfield is based on the 90's show? Considering how the TMNT characters have been handled, it should have been obvious imo, though that means that if they get a Power Rangers guest character they'll go for a MMPR rep so I don't want that as much anymore


2: You guys do realize how stupid Jenny being blacklisted sounds because of that part of her fanbase right? Not only because Jenny's got multiple emotes in the official server which are based off the popular fan interpretation that she's trans, but also because this can apply to say, Loud House fans being surprisingly incestuous or everything surrounding Ren and Stimpy, who may I remind you outright reference the adult party cartoon thing in the game?
 

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She seems extraordinarily confident in Jenny's chances overall, for whatever that is worth.

I think Game Mill having some sway over character choices does generally increase the odds of getting some more mainstream stuff in the game and I especially feel like the odds have slightly increase for Star Trek Prodigy content.... for whatever that is worth; I have heard literally nothing about that show since it premiered. Is it good? Is it bad? Idk. I guess maybe no news is good news, but Lower Decks at least got people talking...
In any case, when/if DLC officially starts dipping more into some of Nick's more modern shows (the big pre-00s ones are almost all covered so far, regardless if some main characters are missing), all hell is going to break loose in the fanbase. They're gonna have to try and accept that the staff is willing to go into uncharted territory for the sake of trying to make an interesting Nick fighting game, even if Nick would not have wanted to otherwise. Game Mill/Ludosity can only double-dip so much before covering more unrepresented series.


or a reference to a time in the comics he did it
Technically speaking, Caught In The Act did obliquely reference Garfield: His 9 Lives in its concept (which itself is inspired by a Fritz the Cat movie, of all things, but that's neither here nor there). One segment had a prehistoric Garfield.

Also, the Friends show did apparently have its own prehistoric Garfield too in Legend of the Lake.



I told you all that this leak would do nothing but good for this game's publicity. This clinches it.

That being said, leaks usually don't cause DLC to be cancelled. I mean, isn't the point of buying something is for it to get publicity for that to happen? There are companies whose security are wet paper tissue and their DLC stuff still managed to sell regardless, so this fear/concern may have been a tad bit of overreacting.

I doubt it's from the internet, gotta be way funnier than "internet baaaad".
I'm willing to bet it's just some Nick execs forgetting that the show existed or not feeling like wanting to do anything for it anymore. I mean, the staffers for this game had to push for months to get folks like Oblina and PTM in here.

Not even TMNT is safe from that.
They seem to have more bias for the 2012 version overall (since it was the first and most successful of the in-house Nick Turtles), but Game Mill and Ludosity went against the grain. I bet that they didn't expect Dotemu and Tribute Games to ask for a new '87 game at all, either (still no details on how the negotiations went since it was done by e-mail, according to the Tribute Discord).
 
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That being said, leaks usually don't cause DLC to be cancelled
It's more so at wanting to make sure the team they're working with is secure, it sounds farfetched but Nintendo scrapped plans for Netflix shows after Netflix leaked it. It sounds a bit dumb but it's a potential concern, especially with Ludocity's small team
 

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It's more so at wanting to make sure the team they're working with is secure, it sounds farfetched but Nintendo scrapped plans for Netflix shows after Netflix leaked it. It sounds a bit dumb but it's a potential concern, especially with Ludocity's small team
Fair enough. At any rate the character in question was free this time, so at least the potential damage was mitigated enough. Also, nice to see another Zenkaiger fan on here.

On the subject of Discord emotes, would anyone mind posting the recent set? Curious to see if it's been updated (not that it would affect characters' chances much, but still).
 
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Technically speaking, Caught In The Act did obliquely reference Garfield: His 9 Lives in its concept (which itself is inspired by a Fritz the Cat movie, of all things, but that's neither here nor there). One segment had a prehistoric Garfield.

Also, the Friends show did apparently have its own prehistoric Garfield too in Legend of the Lake.

I know all this
 

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In any case, when/if DLC officially starts dipping more into some of Nick's more modern shows (the big pre-00s ones are almost all covered so far, regardless if some main characters are missing), all hell is going to break loose in the fanbase. They're gonna have to try and accept that the staff is willing to go into uncharted territory for the sake of trying to make an interesting Nick fighting game, even if Nick would not have wanted to otherwise. Game Mill/Ludosity can only double-dip so much before covering more unrepresented series.

The problem is that most of Nick's more modern shows are either forgettable, crap, or based on licensed properties that Nick might not even own. The Loud House is one of the few that does not fall into any of those categories.
 

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The problem is that most of Nick's more modern shows are either forgettable, crap, or based on licensed properties that Nick might not even own. The Loud House is one of the few that does not fall into any of those categories.
More like Nick cancels them after one season and doesn't give them the Invader Zim treatment.

Besides, with Jimmy, Timmy, and Jenny seen as common omissions to the roster, with Snap trailing behind, can you really say there's a bias against the 2000s in the NASB fanbase?
 
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More like Nick cancels them after one season and doesn't give them the Invader Zim treatment.

Besides, with Jimmy, Timmy, and Jenny seen as common omissions to the roster, with Snap trailing behind, can you really say there's a bias against the 2000s in the NASB fanbase?
Not Necessarily, They usually get another season or two with said seasons getting burned into their sister network
3 Seasons(Breadwinners, Sanjay & Craig, and Kung Fu Panda)
2 Seasons(Welcome to the Wayne, Pig Goat Banana Cricket, Harvey Beaks, and It's Pony)
1 Season(Bunsen is a Beast and Robot & Monster)
 

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I gotta admit, I got a good chuckle out of his light dash being tap dancing; that's hilarious!

Also, they incorporated the tap dancing from "Garfield & Friends" into the moveset; that feels like something you'd see from Sakurai! I love it!

Now we just need the showcase video to get a better idea how he'll play.
 

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So I assume thrashing thoughts will have a lot of different text to appear at random? Since the pic says "mondays" but the video says "lasagna". I wonder if there'll be any RNG properties to the text - I hope not, it'd be pretty tricky for dyslexic or foreign players.
 

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In terms of 2000s Nick reps, Jenny should definitely be in. Catscratch would have also really benefited the roster. Jorgon (Fairy Odd Parents) should be in. Korra should have a 2nd rep, Mako or Bolin.

For 2010s Nick, Kung Fu Panda/Poo would be an interesting guest if not Nick Allstar. Nick should have went all out and added a Nick Jr. representation, Blues Clues, Dora.
 

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You guys do realize how stupid Jenny being blacklisted sounds because of that part of her fanbase right? Not only because Jenny's got multiple emotes in the official server which are based off the popular fan interpretation that she's trans, but also because this can apply to say, Loud House fans being surprisingly incestuous or everything surrounding Ren and Stimpy, who may I remind you outright reference the adult party cartoon thing in the game?
I don't think anyone is suggesting she's blacklisted by the devs or not going to get into the game long-term, but just thinking that could be the "funny" thing that resulted in her missing the boat the first time... Though if it's something unguessable, it could be as simple as "They were considering her for Fighter 21 and then Game Mill came down from on high offering Garfield and everyone burst out laughing too hard at the fighting game Garfield potential."

Actually, wasn't Rep's profile picture of a Jenny He-Man for a while before it became the iconic Garfield He-Man it is today? Not that it'd mean much of anything; I'm aware he's cycled through several buff profile pictures.

On the subject of Discord emotes, would anyone mind posting the recent set? Curious to see if it's been updated (not that it would affect characters' chances much, but still).
Sure, why not.

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At this point, some of the emoji are reaching a new level of meta and specific to server tastes and in-jokes... A lot of the live-action emotes have also been going away because they aren't as fun.

Also, here's Rep on the character trailers being... what they are.

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Interesting phrasing here of "If GameMill" and not "If Ludosity"...
 
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