Nice Point Mafia Day 6 (5/8 to Lynch, Deadline: Saturday the 19th at Midnight)

[Deleted member]

Eh, I rather get this over with and post the whole thing.

Starting from the beginning of the game (#108). This is a huge post here and some may have already been resolved or moot.

#125

I'm interested in a Mirai Trunks name-claim.

Elaborate on why you're interested in a Mirai Trunks name-claim. We don't know if he's even one of the characters.

#126

Also, was anyone interested in a mass Dragon Ball search? Or a mass power up? I think it's probably best to go all-in one way or the other.

I really don't see much benefits of doing a mass Dragonball/training. I have a very bad feeling about the former idea because I think it could really hurt town not just on the long run, but immediately as well.

#131

Joke phase is over, people.

And you thought discussion about how to do training and searching for Dragonballs is that important. No it isn't, the most important part of the game is to hunt for scums. How does that relate with finding scums?

#134

SSBF, I'd have to disagree with Bulma being a Vanilla Townie role. In the series, she was the first person to actually go search for the DragonBalls AND had a radar, so....well, I don't know what role that would fill, but I don't think she'd be a townie.

That's talking about the original Dragonball series. Bulma still plays a important role in Dragonball Z, but she is reduced to a secondary character in the anime, just like Chi-Chi, Master Roshi, Tien, Yamcha, etc.



#135

I'd appreciate a better response then a blind man throwing darts.

#153

and simply makes those talking about it look like they're trying to contribute when the discussion leads to a dead end anyway.

Actually, normal converstations also lead to a dead end. Like when we reach the end of a Day and when the game finish.

#156

If people are worried about getting killed for saying that they have a ball, then I'll hold onto them.

Okay, I really, really despise the idea. What if you're townie, have all seven Dragonballs, and Mafia kills you? They get all seven Dragonballs and they get to wish. If you somehow managed to get all seven Dragonballs and everyone trusts you, wish as soon as possible so scums don't kill you before they get the chance.

#161

Assuming that a 12 or 13-person search will gather all the balls (which is still in my opinion the most likely scenario), we can either get a N2 wish or significantly reduce the lynch pool by scrutinizing anyone who doesn't hand over a ball.

Two problem with this:

1. You said that we had a 50% of us getting a Dragonball (Unless someone apprently has a 100% of getting one, as Xonar claimed his character to do). In that case, we may only get six Dragonballs. Now getting seven is possible with a 13-person search, but we don't know if the 13th person is going to get that final Dragonball.

2. Lets not immediately lynch the person who isn't willing to give out Dragonballs. Now yes, we should add them to the lynch query (Whatever that spells), but we should only lynch them as not giving Dragonballs the main reason if they continuously refuse to do so. We could lose a lot of townies that way.

#162

But anyway, SSBF, a few pages ago, you supported Overswarm, saying that his post was townie. Makes it sound to me that you agreed with him, but now sold 2 has called him out on it, you are now saying that cello hasn't committed a scum tell.

Now yes, Cello Marl is currently my 2nd lynch candidate (Next to Xonar, thought that might change if he further improves himself and if Cello Marl is going to hit the chopping blocks), but back then, I purely disagreed with his idea. However, that view of him has changed a lot since then and I wouldn't mind a Cello Marl lynch.

#168

You're suggesting something that is explicity against the rules. Sure one time we'll get a warning but if we continue it, we could get replaced/mod-killed. I'm telling you, it's not going to work.

Even if this wasn't against the rules, this idea is dangerous. Scums know who to pick off and instead of having to actively search for people with Dragonballs, they can quckhammer/night kill to earn Dragonballs, making scums works easy.

I also didn't like the fact you agreed to Cello Marl's idea. I already explained why I didn't like it.

#175

Super smash bros. fan: I hate the idea. It will not benefit us in the long run. It's dangerous and it may not work. Let's say that Cello Marl is town. He gets all seven Dragonballs. Then suddenly, scum quicklynch/kill him and they get all seven Dragonballs. I don't think we can trust Cello with this idea, at least for now.

#192

nich I NEVER said cello to be scum

Severe contradiction. You clearly had a vote on him, said Cello's idea was horrible, and found him very scummy because of it.

a nice FoS on you. first you say "copy/paste and fill in" now you're like "I'll write your opinion on the matter for you."

Nice OMGUS there. Your reasoning sucks and you made it so obvious that it was.

#199

I really did not this post at all. Why did you give your opinion on Cello's idea if you didn't like what Nicholas1024 was doing (Also a sign of hypocrisy)? This is another OMGUS reply to Nicholas1024 since your reasoning is, once again, terrible.
On top of that, you didn't even bother to explain why Xonar deserved a FoS, which is also scummy.


#201

Wow TPK, I don't like your vibes at all.
Vote: TPK

He has a theory, let him do what he wants to do. You're also mass buddying Cello, me not like.

But it's not like The Paprika Killer had to agree on Nicholas1024. On top of that, The Paprika Killer did not buddy Cello Marl at all.


#202

Completely and utterly misinterperated what Nicholas1024 was trying to do. Nicholas1024's idea is most surely more useful then your example.

#203

You are incorrect on that regard. Now you could say that I'm wrong because The Paprika Killer was the 2nd to vote for Cello Marl and Nicholas1024, but you only voted Cello Marl because you didn't like his idea, not because he was scummy. You also originally failed to explain why Nicholas1024 deserve your vote. When you did explain, you said you voted for him because you wanted him to explain himself. Were there any scum tells present in Nicholas1024 that originally warrant your vote?

#205

You have just joined my list of "people I don't want in lylo"

And why did Nicholas1024 deserve it? Nice job failing to explain why.

#209

Vote: Gheb

Skimming much? As Rockin explained, Gheb is serving as a replacement.


#210

I'll say things when I need to and keep them to myself when I shouldn't, but I'm not going to have Nicholas put things into my (or anyone else's) mouth.

You did the exact thing to Nicholas1024 in #202. Obvious contradiction is obvious.

#220

If so, howabout I make a bunch of 1 liner posts like other players do, instead of a decent sized post? Also OS, if you're going to disassemble Cello's plan piece by piece, that's cool and all but try to keep it moderately sized... big posts are not good for town, imo. They cause disinterest and confusion, letting scum slip by easier while losing town. Use key arguments, not a pile of them.

Notice that this is a obvious contradiction here. He said that he doesn't like one-liners posts, encourage decent size posts, and then discourage really big posts. Sold2, you're going to have to get used to big posts here as we're discussion a variety of topics here, so big posts like this one is necessary.

#227

Anyone else notice that up until recently, Paprika Killer and Overswarm's play were eerily similar?

Not at all. Overswarm's post are extremely large. The Paprika Killer's posts is a lot smaller. Care to englighten me on how they are similar?

#232

not scummy generally means leaning town.

It can also mean a person has no read/null read on them.

#241

People can hardly make a hard stance this early based on 1 action.

You are wrong in this regard. We've seen over 100 posts related to the game by now, so it's easy to take a stance on someone now.

#247

I'm disappointed in that the best players in this game aren't posting. Mentos, Hilt, Meta-Kirby, get the ball rolling on something.

Mentosman8 and Hilt have provided a decent amount of contents in the game, especially Mentosman8, whom post have been nearly perfect in execution. Only Meta-Kirby (Out of the three here) hasn't really contributed much in the game and I disagree with him being one of the best players. Why not Junglefever? I heard he was a very good player but he has barely contributed anything of substance, only a promise of a more content-filled post.

#249

Voting someone off due to inactivity is not a good reason alone. If they're inactive and don't want to play, then they can just get a replacement. You're going to need something else to back that up.
And it really feels like you were voting for the sake of bandwagonning.

#263

SSBF, I could have sworn that in, like, every game I've played with you it's been said not to post a "town-to-scum" list including everyone.

Actually, I've only heard that directed toward me in Newbie Mafia 6 before.

#265

The reason for this is that there is only one viable wish: Revive a townie. Night immunity, bringing in another player, other conceivable extra powers; all of these are innately selfish and cannot be corroborated as beneficial for town, and the very action of making such a wish casts doubt on the wisher.

Here's the problem with reviving townies. What if a dead townie gets revived as a scum? We will most likely won't know what alignment they'll be part of, so we can't ignore them. If they're scum, it's townies helping scums, which is a terrible idea. Even if they get confirmed scum, unless a doctor is around, scum can just re-kill the townie, basically wasting our effort. Even if a Doctor is around, they have to survive each and every Day, Twlight, and Night to protect the confirmed townie. There are risks involved every wish and you need to realize that.

Also, in that case, bringing in extra players isn't selfish as well, because for all we know, they could be a townie. Yes, bringing in another player can be beneficial to town if we're lucky. Sure we won't know the alignment and they could be scum, but they could be townies as well. Plus, this adds more variety to the game. On top of that, wouldn't you want more experience players in here that'll make the game more fun?

If we somehow do not find all the Balls, we will at least have them be secure as I can hold onto them overnight, as Hilt surmised, for I am Bulletproof (more or less). This alleviates any potential disaster in having scum Night Kill some random person that had a Dragon Ball. If you all prefer, during the Day, someone else can hold onto them, and I'll just hold onto them at Night.

Sorry about that, but I really don't believe your claim. Why claim so early? You could have used the oppertunity to save yourself in the future and people would be more likely to believe you. On top of that, we don't know what alignment a Bulletproof member could be part of. Overall, your claim is terrible. You made the right claim (If you're a townie, that is), but at the wrong time.

#266

Enforcing strict martial law destroys any hypothetical "scum safe zone". Don't go against it. Just don't do it. Ask Swords, Rockin, and SSBF what will happen.

Can you please explain this to me? I really don't know what you're saying here.

Xonar and Nick are Good People, and Overswarm and Mentos need to die.

You have a point about Nicholas1024 and Overswarm, but Xonar commited so many scummy actions that it's sad. He nearly got replaced/mod-killed for his actions. Mentosman8 has been one of town's most pro-town players in the game. Why do you think Mentosman8 is scummy?

#268

I'm not sure how this is suppose to work. Can you please explain the purpose of this post or rather, the editing of #265?


#271

I really don't think that was really a proper response.


#272

lurkers that post only when its safe/beneficial (Helloooooooo Hilt)

Hilt has actually contributed a decent amount of contents in the game, so I wouldn't count Hilt as a lurker.

Everyone posts.

I am really tired of your activity policy that you've tried to force upon us. Examine people's behavior, they way they post, and contents they provide, not solely by their activiness here. The only person that is an exception to this rule is Junglefever.

#283

Why aren't more people voting for cello c'mon bandwagon go!

Could you have been at least patience? If it worked, you could have received the results you wanted.

#285

lol because i definitely want a quick lynch. That's obviously what i meant. XD

I know this is a joke, but what was the purpose of suggesting a quick lynch when we know it won't benefit town and you weren't meaning it?

#305

I have a town read on Cello at this point, I will trust him with the dragonballs. And I know the wish is deliberately huge, but it's not instant-win huge. At this point Cello is #2 on my townie list (behind myself, of course. ), so I'm willing to trust him. I'd be surprised if he was scum, but I feel that the potential benefits of giving him the dragonballs outweigh the potential risks.

The problem is that Overswarm is right, Cello is just claiming here. We have no idea if the person is truly scummy or not. We can only find out by flip or confirmation.

#308

What does me being town have to do with anything? Me being town or mafia has no direct relation to Cello being town or mafia

What if both of you are scums? Then both of you have direct relationship with each other because both of you could be scums.

#312

Besides, I don't think that falseclaiming bulletproof/hated/lovers is scummy.

Yes it is because it falls under the "Lynch All Lairs" policy. If you lie about your claim, chances are you're going to get lynched for it.

#314

I mean... I know sarcasm can be hard to see on the internet, but really? C'mon. I said bandwagon (which can be used for pressure, information, getting close to lynch, etc) and OS assumed I wanted to quick lynch Cello (which is laughable) just because I said "more votes". You're skimming.

No offense, but we don't have time for sarcasm on Mafia games (With the exception of Random Voting Stage). We have to be serious with each and every post during the game, no exception.

#350

I'd appreciate a real response to him.

#356

Xonar, we'll get Mentos toMorrow, and Hilt the Day after. Let's go OS now.

Don't try to plan so early now. Opinions on people do change and you're no exception. Look how well that's working in Tree Stump Mafia.

#359

Unvote, vote: OS

No offense, but this sounds like you're doing this for the sake of bandwaggoning or agreeing with Cello Marl.

#364

Everyone not voting or not voting overswarm/hilt/mentos needs to rethink

First off, this is somewhat hypocritical. Earlier, you went after The Paprika Killer for mass buddying Cello Marl when he wasn't. Now I'm feeling like you're buddying Cello himself. Secondly, people have opinions, they don't have to vote for Overswarm/Hilt/Mentosman8 for lynch. Third, all except maybe Overswarm are terribly lynch candidates for Day 1 and even then, I still disagree to a Day 1 Overswarm Lynch. All have been very productive in the game, helpful, and contributed a lot of substance in the game. Fourth, you are blantantly parroting Cello Marl on this.

#438

I didn't go through the whole list and I CLEARLY delineated just a few suspects. I really don't think that list at the end is that big of a deal. The people you'll wanna look at from my post are the four I highlighted (Cello, OS, SSBF, Xonar).

Here's the problem. You gave us absolutely nothing to work on with Overswarm. You have yet to explain why you're suspicious of him.

#463

I know other people have said this, but you bombed this post miserably. Worst post ever in this game.

#464

Completely useless post that gives us nothing to work on.

#481

Yeah it's true, I haven't been all that helpful, I admit. But honestly, I feel like there isn't much to say right now beside my lynch targets.

You could have done a re-read of the thread and made a post about it. That is another way to get a discussion going.

#484

Nich, as your plan has failed, could you tell us what it originally was?

Re-reading wouldn't require much, only dedication and the ability to read. Please don't be lazy.

#598, #599, #601

I'd apperciate that you would have given me a real response. And specifically at Overswarm's #601, that comment is irrelavent to the game.

#632

SSBF is posting fluff in practically every post he makes. Scummy for sure. I wouldn't care if he was lynched.

Show me evidence that at least 90% of my posts have been filled with fluff. "Practically" means it's very close to being there. Which means your homework assignment is to show me evidence that 90% of the posts I've made are pure fluff. Otherwise, I don't see how I've made so much fluff that it's sad. At least I've put forth some effort into the game, unlike other people (Junglefever, The Paprika Killer to a lesser extend, and Xonar earlier in the game).

I lead a nearly succesful lynch campaign against Xonar (Junglefever's vote was random), I mentioned my four suspects in details throughout the game, I have been active, and proved that all wishes comes with risks.

Optionally, do you have other reasons for wanting me gone aside from fluffs?

You are probably my favorite lynch as of right now for reasons already explained.

Then why is your vote on Junglefever? If you haven't noticed, he just came back yesterday and is promising a post that will contribute a lot more to the game. If you're going to persude your top suspect, why not vote for him?

#635

Have you even taken a stance on the Xonar/Mentos argument? Have you taken an opinion on the Nic/OS argument? No. Point these posts out to me and i will back down.

That is true about the Nicholas1024 Vs. Overswarm, but when it comes to the Xonar Vs. Mentosman8 argument, are you skimming. Clownbot at the time already gave his opinion on that. the problem is that you have not searched for them.

#637

As for my actual stances, I don't really think too much of either argument you mentioned. I already said when Rockin asked me about Mentos/Xonar that neither of them looked particularly suspicious at the time and should be the lynch toDay,

You did say that you were considering putting Xonar as your top suspect due to Mentos's argument.

@Junglefever: Add this into your big post you're promising. What is your opinion on Xonar? Explain it in detail. It's also recommend you re-read, as you have a few things to answer.

Some thoughts on the situation:

Overswarm is no longer one of my strongest town reads. I really hate his activity policy that he was trying to enforce, trying to force a end to RVS, giving out a terrible example, not explaining things, contradicting, misinterperating things, and a bit of skimming. I now have a slightly scummy read on him. He has made some great posts, thought, so that's why he isn't one of my top suspects, but if it comes to the time where Overswarm is about to get lynched and there's no way to get him out of it, I will gladly lynch him if necessary.

Junglefever is also skimming a bit since he has not answer one of my question yet (Will dig for it if you ask). A bit more scummier now. However, it is nice that he took the time to post. However, I want to see his more content-filled post he promised yesterday by today or my suspicion will continue to rise.

I want to hear more on Meta-Kirby on the situation. Meta-Kirby is going to get prodded soon. His last post was on May 6, 2010 at 1:42 PM. The rules said that you must post once every seventy-two hours and Meat-Kirby just broked that rule today. There is no excuse for this, especially since he's been checking the Desicive Games section numerous times during the course of that last post and now. I also noticed that he was tunneling me a bit. Since his analysis on the four people he thought were scums (Me, Xonar, Overswarm, and Cello Marl), he has dedicated most of his posts toward me. On top of that, he has not mentioned his case on Overswarm at all. I'm starting to become suspicous of him. However, I'm not really comfortable with lynching him yet, since he did improve his contribuation until his sudden disapperance from this thread.

Cello Marl is also looking ****** as well. I really didn't like a lot of points he made. I already made it obvious he was my 2nd lynch candidate after Xonar and this only emphaize it.

I am still getting a pretty scummy vibe from The Paprika Killer, but it's nice he's finally taking a stance with a vote on me.

Xonar is improving a little, but his past actions so overwhemingly surpass the goods he made, that he still remains my top lynch candidate. Whenever or not he'll improve enough to get him off my top suspect list will be something to watch. As I started a nearly successful lynch campaign against him, I'm not planning on unvoting him until I'm absolutely convince he's not my top suspect anymore OR if changing vote is necessary to get a lynch.

Want to hear more out of Mentosman8, especially since he's been active in Tree Stump Mafia, which could be ending soon. Will be interesting to see what he has to say on the matter going on now and where his next vote will go to. He needs to do it soon, thought, as it has been over fourty-eight hours as he posted. Once it hits May 10, 2010 at 2:19 PM, he will be under prod zone.

Kataefi and Meta-Kirby, please vote someone. Not voting is anti-town and it will not benefit us in the long run.

I'm actually really surprise that I'm suspecting over 1/3 of people here (Including Meta-Kirby, Overswarm, Cello Marl, Junglefever, The Paprika Killer, and of course, Xonar, but not Mentosman8). However, for convience sake, I'll list my top five suspects in order from least scummiest to most scummiest:

5): Overswarm
4): Junglefever
3): The Paprika Killer
2): Cello Marl
1): Xonar

I'd also like to remind you guys that deadline is approaching soon, so we need a lynch candidate. If you do not have a vote on someone (Meta-Kirby, Kataefi), vote now. A No Lynch is unaffordable in Mafia, especially in Day 1.

Wow, that's a mouthful to say. However, I was forced to cut corners a bit since Wordpad was being an ******* to me and messed a few of my quotes up. The links are still there, thought.

 

[Xiivi]

Vote Count (8/15 to Lynch)
(3) xonar: Jungle, SSBF, Rockin
(3) overswarm: Cello, Xonar, Nick
(2) super smash bros. fan: Clown, TPK
(1) Jungle: Swords
(1) the paprika killer: OS
(0) nicholas1024:
(0) clownbot:
(0) rockin:
(0) cello_marl:
(0) hilt:
(0) kataefi:
(0) swordsrbroken:
(0) mentosman8:
(0) meta-kirby:
(0) sold2:

Not Voting: Meta, Kat, Mentos, Hilt, Sold

 

[mentosman8]

*sigh* I'm still extremely frustrated with the way tree stump came to an end. I'll probably make a real post by the end of the night. No guarantees though, because honestly I don't want to read another word of mafia after it. I'm going to make my best effort, but if it doesn't show up tonight expect something Tuesday afternoon at the latest.

 

[M.K]

Sorry for my inactivity guys. I have 3 AP Exams on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday to study for, and really this isn't my top priority at the moment. I may make posts, but probably not large walls of text.
I'm sorry, it'll all be over by Wednesday.

 

[Deleted member]

Sorry for my inactivity guys. I have 3 AP Exams on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday to study for, and really this isn't my top priority at the moment. I may make posts, but probably not large walls of text.
I'm sorry, it'll all be over by Wednesday.

Thanks for letting us know. Just make sure to drop a vote on someone you're most certain is scum. Also, hope things goes well for you and your exam. I'm taking one AP exam on Geography as well.

@mentosman8: Don't let Tree Stump Mafia get to you so hardly. Let's just hope Cello Marl does not perform that **** on DBZ Mafia.

 

[M.K]

Thanks for letting us know. Just make sure to drop a vote on someone you're most certain is scum. Also, hope things goes well for you and your exam. I'm taking one AP exam on Geography as well.

@mentosman8: Don't let Tree Stump Mafia get to you so hardly. Let's just hope Cello Marl does not perform that **** on DBZ Mafia.

IIRC, the deadline is May 12th? I WILL read this thread, and if I see it fit, I'll cast my vote with analysis. I won't leave it as a one liner.
AP Human Geography? Worst one, took it last year. Got a 3. >_>

And are we supposed to be talking about ongoing games?

 

[Deleted member]

IIRC, the deadline is May 12th? I WILL read this thread, and if I see it fit, I'll cast my vote with analysis. I won't leave it as a one liner.
AP Human Geography? Worst one, took it last year. Got a 3. >_>

And are we supposed to be talking about ongoing games?

Yes, the deadline is May 12th, 2010.

Also, Tree Stump Mafia just ended. Scum won.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Let me start of by saying this.

Directed at Swords & SSBF: There is a large difference between lurking and being plain inactive. Lurking suggests that I have been reading and keeping up with stuff and just haven't been posting, where as being inactive suggests that I'm straight up not here. As I said before, I was on vacation all week, and several people will verify this for me (including our moderator). But I'm here now. So to call my 'inactiveness' scummy is baseless.

@SSBF: whatever question you asked I'm goign to have to ask that you refind it.

My vote on Xonar was a joke vote that I never unvoted (dealing with ingame hydras or something of that matter). I didn't like Xonar's initial response to mento's Pbpa. He just claims they are idiotic, which isn't a good enough reason to just blow things off in my mind. But his responses picked up (albiet by just a little bit).

On my initial read through, not likeing SSBF and Swords for pretty much lack of anything (though I guess I'm not one to talk). SBBF's big last post asked questions on things that are now moot, asks for things to be elaborated (that don't seem to be a big deal) or comments on things that aren't really helpful. Not Voting is NOT anti town in itself. People vote more than others, it's a playstyle choice. I generally don't vote very often until I feel like I've got a good grasp or gut feel on something. I don't like how he's fence sitting on two of the players that post the most and the longest (OS and Cello). He says he doesnt like some things they say but likes some things they say. Don't really know how they make the scum list at that point, seems more neutral from what I take away from what he's saying. It makes it look like he's trying to cover himself for the future. Swords is being swords, i can elaborate here if it's needed.

On that note, i should reread (again ;_. you guys post a **** ton >: (

 

[SwordsRbroken]

You kind of completely missed my main point.

Why didn't you bring up the fact that I was supposedly not taking any stances before I said I was suspicious of you?

I just put the fact in the same post because i didn't feel like bringing it up later.


anyways...

SSBF, i didn't switch my vote from OS to JF until after that post. Not that i wouldn't love to see OS lynched, but it wasn't picking up any steam, so i decided to pressure junglefever.

Also, a good deal of your posts involve fluff about flavor and what goku's or vegeta's role PM would be like. And some of it is parrot. Your large post was good, but it contained some parrots.

Soo....yeah, since it's about 3 days until deadline, i'm going to unvote Vote: OS. I will switch to TPK or Jungle if they are agreed on as the lynch for toDay.

 

[SwordsRbroken]

I was ninja'ed.

 

[mentosman8]

Just want to add, I just realized Tuesday is the 11th, I'll make absolutely sure to get caught up and put somethin worthwhile up before the end of the night tomorrow at the latest, instead of Tuesday.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Swords, if you want OS lynched, then park your vote on him and wait 3 days. Since Jungle's vote is just random and, as has been stated several times before, EVERY point against Xonar has been satisfactorily addressed, then he won't be in danger. Unless someone else brings up something important, OS will be the one to go.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

errr i totally meant to unvote

at the end of that but i got sidetracked by talking about SSBF.

 

[DtJ S2n]

SSBF, I'm thinking the reason people think your posts are fluff is "what are you accomplishing by doing this?" I read your post, and I'm still unsure what the purpose was, outside of answering questions directed at you. Also I'll just clarify that I don't like really large posts(I explained earlier) or an -abundance- of small posts(don't do much). Drop the stuff about me and my post size preference. I'm getting frustrated that people even care.

Vote TPK
I think the closest thing you've done this game to scumhunting is parroting OS. I don't think you're contributing nearly as much as you should, choosing instead to just be like "I agree" or talking about game mechanics.

 

[DtJ Hilt]

SSBF, I'm thinking the reason people think your posts are fluff is "what are you accomplishing by doing this?" I read your post, and I'm still unsure what the purpose was, outside of answering questions directed at you. Also I'll just clarify that I don't like really large posts(I explained earlier) or an -abundance- of small posts(don't do much). Drop the stuff about me and my post size preference. I'm getting frustrated that people even care.

Vote TPK
I think the closest thing you've done this game to scumhunting is parroting OS. I don't think you're contributing nearly as much as you should, choosing instead to just be like "I agree" or talking about game mechanics.

Bro, you gotta stop readin my mind. This is just gonna look like I'm parroting lol

SSBF, what was the point of your post? You went through most of the game and responded to posts, but a lot of the responses you made to the posts were inaccurate, such as OS' joke about my playstyle. He was commenting on how I had played in TMNT mafia and (i'm assuming) another mafia game (that I won't reference, as it's ongoing). He wasn't referencing the playstyle I had after he made the post. And all in all, I don't see what point your wall of text had. A lot of the people you made responses to, not only were responded to by other people (several times, in my cases), but weren't even players that you listed as finding scummy. What?

Glad to see Jungle's back. Not so surprised to see the OS wagon popping up again. I don't agree with him going down D1, but I can see the reasoning behind it. I'd be down for a TPK, Jungle, or Swords lynch (moreso a bandwagon, on Jungle's part, although we're running low on time). I'll jump between them if I feel like it, but I think I'm going to stick to TPK. Out of all the players we have, I'd be most comfortable with one of their lynches for D1.

So, for now, Vote: The Paprika Killer

Deadline's approaching. Who should we lynch instead of you? Do you really want an SSBF lynch just becuase he hasn't "stepped up his game"? If that was just a pressure vote to get him to do so, why have you left it there so conveniently?

 

[Deleted member]

hilt, because he hasn't until I was sleeping. can't some people pay attention to timezones for once?
I'll make an actual post with content later today.

 

[Deleted member]

AKA Unvote

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Kinda torn between Hilt and OS atm.

 

[SwordsRbroken]

unvote Vote: OS

 

[Deleted member]

EBWOP (#647): Disregard that, Xiivi lied at us. Town actually won (Finally won a game without dying (I consider a lot unless I survive and my alignment wins).

Anyway, I'll respond to some stuff later when need be. I'm also glad a Paprika Killer bandwagon is starting up. Since Xonar doesn't look like he's going to get lynched ToDay, I'll be happy to switch my vote to The Paprika Killer.

Unvote, Vote: The Paprika Killer

@Xonar: Please note that you are still my top suspect and I will continue to persude you in the future.

 

[Deleted member]

wait, even though Xonar is still your top suspect you just dropped that because lynching me is just more likely to happen?

way to go along with popular opinion.

 

[Overswarm]

way to go along with popular opinion.

*searches your posts in thread*

You shouldn't have too much to say to that

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

It's waste of time if there has already been an elaborate case on someone that has been refuted and still hunt after that person. If he has me as a top suspect, I don't care, his reasons have been refuted yet he's too stubborn to submit defeat. Counter-productive, if you ask me.
I still don't see how 'bad play' is scummy though.

 

[Deleted member]

As Xonar once said, Hypocrisy is not a counter argument.

 

[Overswarm]

I still don't see how 'bad play' is scummy though.

It's not so much "scummy" as it is just unwanted. A lot of people throw out the word "scummy" for some reason in those cases.

Like, skimming SSBF's posts, I can tell he isn't scummy. He's a blank slate. Do I want him in lylo? No. Do I think he's "scummy"? No.

 

[SwordsRbroken]

hilt, because he hasn't until I was sleeping. can't some people pay attention to timezones for once?
I'll make an actual post with content later today.

Does anyone else besides me find it strange that when hilt calls him out on this he unvotes?

unvote Vote: TPK Explain yourself. (will switch back to OS if needbe)

 

[Deleted member]

I just got up? jeez lrn2timezone

 

[mentosman8]

Ok, as caught up as I'm gonna be able to get right now(read through everything although I want to re-read the past couple pages). Still most comfortable with an OS lynch right now, once I've done my readthrough of the past several pages I'll decide if that's where my votes going or if I find something different.

 

[Xiivi]

Vote Count (8/15 to Lynch)
(5) the paprika killer: OS, Sold, Hilt, SSBF, Swords
(3) overswarm: Cello, Xonar, Nick
(1) super smash bros. fan: Clown
(1) xonar: Rockin
(0) Jungle:
(0) nicholas1024:
(0) clownbot:
(0) rockin:
(0) cello_marl:
(0) hilt:
(0) kataefi:
(0) swordsrbroken:
(0) mentosman8:
(0) meta-kirby:
(0) sold2:

Not Voting: Meta, Kat, Mentos, TPK, Jungle

 

[Overswarm]

(3) overswarm: Cello, Xonar, Nick

Interesting.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Elaborate?

 

[Overswarm]

Elaborate?

Looking back, you don't seem to fit with Cello or Nicholas. You technically are in the same boat since you voted for me, but aren't "buddy buddy" with them. I'm inclined to believe you're town for this reason, regardless of Cello/Nicholas alignment.

Cello and Nicholas I'm unsure about because I haven't seen much except for tunneling against me because I disagreed with Cello.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

So you think that my posts which people point out as 'buddying cello' aren't buddying?
I looked at them trying it from their point of view and could very well see how they think that.

 

[Overswarm]

So you think that my posts which people point out as 'buddying cello' aren't buddying?
I looked at them trying it from their point of view and could very well see how they think that.

Buddying, to me, is the act of sliding into the same mentality as someone else. Not their actions. If one person says "I vote for John to be lynched" and another person says "I vote for John to be lynched", they aren'y necessarily buddying up... especially if one votes for him because he made an outrageous claim and the other person votes because he thinks John is inactive. It'd be totally different if one person said "John is scum because he only does X Y and Z!" and the other person said "Yeah!"


That's different than parroting, which is simply copying whatever the person says with no regard to why or even embellishment.

Speaking of parroting:

TPK, wtf have you parroted me of all people on Day 1? I've acted deliberately ridiculous on multiple occasions and it didn't stop you once.

TPK is to Overswarm
as
Nicholas1024 is to Cello


ACT question go. >:[

 

[Deleted member]

I suppose that last sentence is aimed at me, what do you mean?

 

[Overswarm]

Oh, right. You're in the Netherlands.

The ACT (pronounced as an initialism, /ˌeɪˌsiːˈtiː/ ay-see-tee; originally abbreviation of American College Testing)[1] is a standardized test for high school achievement and college admissions in the United States produced by ACT, Inc.[1] It was first administered in November 1959 by Everett Franklin Lindquist as a competitor to the College Board's Scholastic Aptitude Test, now the SAT Reasoning Test.[2] The ACT test has historically consisted of four tests: English, Math, Reading, and Science reasoning. In February 2005, an optional writing test was added to the ACT, mirroring changes to the SAT that took place later in March of the same year. All four-year colleges and universities in the U.S. accept the ACT,[3] but different institutions place different emphases on standardized tests such as the ACT, compared to other factors of evaluation such as class rank, G.P.A., and extracurricular activities.


It asked questions like

green is to grass
as
red is to

A) Orange
B) Apple
C) Tree
D) Dog


hence


TPK is to Overswarm
as
Nicholas1024 is to Cello

 

[M.K]

I've acted deliberately ridiculous on multiple occasions and it didn't stop you once.

Why?

@SSBF, You're crossing the line between being productive and being insulting. I know that alot of players tend to use agressive mannerisms when talking, and they SEEM to get their point across, but it doesn't not automatically make your points better by adding insults to players or their playstyles.

 

[Deleted member]

ah, like that. I got the ... is to ... the first time though.
I had a feeling you wanted me to do something specific (act).

 

[Overswarm]

Why?

Because I'm ****ing good at Mafia and some of the people in this game know me IRL and have played with me before. They know I'm sneaky so as long as I walk the line and am considered a potential lynch subject in a two-day span, its unlikely I'm going to get Night Killed. Vig kill is a strong possibility, but can't really help that.

Think about it:

You're mafia. You're playing mafia with a guy who, last game he played in, had no mafia partners after D1 lynched one of his scum buddies, D2 was a no lynch with a vig killing his other scum buddy, and then he manages to win the game and is considered "no suspect" for a large portion of the game. You also know him in real life and know how he loves manipulating things and games of deception. You know he's good at picking things out and picking up on little things.

Do you want him to live?

No.

Now add everything above, except this time he's flipping back and forth between productive and crazy and there's always a few people voting for him.

Ta daaaaaa =P

Even saying this, I'm still not a NK target until much later because there will STILL be people pushing for my lynch tomorrow.

Knowing that I'm acting ridiculous let's me see people that are

A) OMGUSing and pushing for my lynch and saying "GOGOGOGO" for reasons that aren't good and want a quicklynch
B) People doing the above for legitimate reasons, but aren't pushing for a quicklynch
C) People that support things I've said (WTF?)
D) People that defend me for legitimate reasons
E) People that defend me for piss-poor reasons and basically want to keep me in even though I'm obviously insane

People that do A, C, and E are making bad town plays which, by definition, we don't want. Not necessarily scum, but a strong indicator. Scum will want to keep players that act insane (Myself, Cello, Xonar) or are just plain unhelpful (SSBF) or inactive (Jungle) in as long as possible so that the closer they get to lylo the easier it is for them to win.

@SSBF, You're crossing the line between being productive and being insulting. I know that alot of players tend to use agressive mannerisms when talking, and they SEEM to get their point across, but it doesn't not automatically make your points better by adding insults to players or their playstyles.

Most people respond to insults. Those that don't? They don't want attention drawn to themselves. People not responding to insults = warning sign that means you should pressure them in other ways; if they continue to avoid making decisions, they're scum.


BAM. Mafia 101. I just opened people's eyes like O_O cuz they're all like "OMG I didn't know you were so smart".

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Wait you considered yourself no-suspect?
The driving force of the town had you as a top suspect.