Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

[CapitaineCrash]

Rhythm Heaven, maybe. I would hope it at least has them considering better supplemental content, but I wouldn't be 1000% convinced on a character. I have to wonder if Sakurai passed on them for a reason, and unlike Golden Sun it's a less clear cut thing who they would add in the first place. I do think it would increase their chances exponentially, but I wouldn't quite put my complete faith in it. Even though I'd like to... since yknow, Chorus Kids are my most wanted. Worst case scenario, just give us a stage and some more music.

Yeah unfortunately I'm not really convinced with Rhythm heaven too... Because it literally happened with Ultimate and we got nothing. Megamix released in June 2015 in Japan when Ultimate project plan was most likely early 2016, and despite doing fairly good sales in Japan and bringing in for the first time an actual main character (Tibby), we got nothing aside from a bunch of spirits and 2 music iirc?. Then again, I guess you could argue that what hurts Rhythm heaven chances in Ultimate is Everyone is here and the little amount of base newcomers more than anything, but I still don't think it would be a lock even with a new game unlike Golden sun who have way more popularity to back it.

 

[fogbadge]

I mean Skull Kid is cool in Majora because he is being controlled by the Mask. He’s a distant threat who isn’t even that responsible for his actions as he’s a child slowly being corrupted by the Mask into being an Awful Person. And I’m not sure if that Dynamic could be replicating in something like a Fighting Game. Now Zelda One-Offs aren’t completely off-limits, Sheik exists, but I feel like there’s a better option for a One-Off Villain who wouldn’t risk losing what makes that character special while also having a better possible moveset.
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Vaati has been fought directly and is a more intentional villain in character than Skull Kid, and is also a Toon Character as a Bonus. I think you genuinely have a cool idea here and I think this would be a fun way to represent more of the Zelda Series since Vaati is technically not a One-Off. I think he’d be neat.

he's not a one off either

 

[JOJONumber691]

he's not a one off either

Non-Ganon Villain but my point still stands. That actually gives Vaati another advantage too so that works out lol.

Vaati would be cool!
If he uses The Wind instead of dark magic!
The MC Version just uses dark magic!
Him Using body parts of his boss form and wind magic while using his human form normally would be really cool!
There is one issue with vaati tho his human form is a capcom/ Flagship character and those usually never appear in nintendo zeldas!
(I mean when was the last time we saw the Tokay, Minish etc.)

Yeah this is the exact stuff I am talking about! Though to be fair, Vaati counts as a Retro now so since Capcom is nice I could see them being willing to cooperate if Vaati is added next game. Also Vaati was in the Link’s Awakening’s Remake so he is still used occasionally. A Wind Using Shapeshifter would be cool to see, and giving Toon Link a Villain would be fun. I like it!

 

[fogbadge]

Non-Ganon Villain but my point still stands. That actually gives Vaati another advantage too so that works out lol.

Yeah this is the exact stuff I am talking about! Though to be fair, Vaati counts as a Retro now so since Capcom is nice I could see them being willing to cooperate if Vaati is added next game. Also Vaati was in the Link’s Awakening’s Remake so he is still used occasionally. A Wind Using Shapeshifter would be cool to see, and giving Toon Link a Villain would be fun. I like it!

capcom doesn’t own vaati so they wouldn’t have to cooperate

 

[Sucumbio]

Isaac and Mathew would be great for 1 Reason THEY USE EARTH MAGIC Like barely anyone in fiction uses earth magic!

I would love more Earth or ground type moves in Smash. It's funny but when I first played Brawl I assumed Charizard rock smash was earth only to learn it's a fighting type move lol.

 

[Oracle Link]

Non-Ganon Villain but my point still stands. That actually gives Vaati another advantage too so that works out lol.

Yeah this is the exact stuff I am talking about! Though to be fair, Vaati counts as a Retro now so since Capcom is nice I could see them being willing to cooperate if Vaati is added next game. Also Vaati was in the Link’s Awakening’s Remake so he is still used occasionally. A Wind Using Shapeshifter would be cool to see, and giving Toon Link a Villain would be fun. I like it!

Vaati was in the remake?
Where? PLS SHOW ME NOW!

 

[JOJONumber691]

capcom doesn’t own vaati so they wouldn’t have to cooperate

That answers that possible variable.

Vaati was in the remake?
Where? PLS SHOW ME NOW!

It’s at the end of this video. Listen I didn’t know stuff from DX was in this game either. https://youtu.be/_97T3oKHOjI?si=n-9Idf4jwJYvdRKK

 

[Oracle Link]

That answers that possible variable.


It’s at the end of this video. Listen I didn’t know stuff from DX was in this game either. https://youtu.be/_97T3oKHOjI?si=n-9Idf4jwJYvdRKK

Thats just Dethl hes the final form of the nightmares and has nothing to do with vaati!
Sure they look similar But Dethl isnt vaati!

 

[Geno Boost]

my most wanted stage for the next smash game what do you guys think?
the 3 smrpg and windows stages on the bottom are shapeshifting stages btw

 

[MasterCheef]

hmm more evidence for Fighter's pass 3 ? or a highly unusual mistake ?

PapaGenos , on X
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Jan 12

The new Super Smash Bros Ultimate spirit “Noah & Mio” doesn’t list the series above their names for some odd reason. https://pic.twitter.com/J7BawTzv3t

 

[CannonStreak]

hmm more evidence for Fighter's pass 3 ? or a highly unusual mistake ?

PapaGenos , on X
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Jan 12

The new Super Smash Bros Ultimate spirit “Noah & Mio” doesn’t list the series above their names for some odd reason. https://pic.twitter.com/J7BawTzv3t

I am pretty sure that has nothing to do with a Fighters' Pass 3, which is not happening, by the way.

 

[BuckleyTim]

hmm more evidence for Fighter's pass 3 ? or a highly unusual mistake ?

PapaGenos , on X
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Jan 12

The new Super Smash Bros Ultimate spirit “Noah & Mio” doesn’t list the series above their names for some odd reason. https://pic.twitter.com/J7BawTzv3t

It's a weird mistake for them to make considering how simple it allegedly should be to make spirits, but that's most likely what it is: a mistake that'll get patched with the Sora amiibo update or maybe even the next new spirit event. If the next spirit event comes and gives us another spirit that's mysteriously missing a series, then sure put the tinfoil hat on and start speculating, but there's a snowball's chance in Hades of that happening. Need I point out the fact that fighters' spirits do have the series they're from listed already?

 

[Dukefire]

Careful, it might be misdirection. It is cooking, but don't put hope in the wrong place.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I am pretty sure that has nothing to do with a Fighters' Pass 3, which is not happening, by the way.

Who's to say? Mario Kart 8 DX got DLC after 439 years, Smash Ultimate could as well. No Smash being in development now means there's a chance they might just push Ultimate a little further until they figure out what to do next.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

Can we stop with the "Mario kart 8 get dlc years after release, so Smash will too!" Different games, different context, diferent years, different teams. Mario kart 8 deluxe was a very special case with it having a mobile game to pull content from.

 

[Noipoi]

Who's to say? Mario Kart 8 DX got DLC after 439 years, Smash Ultimate could as well. No Smash being in development now means there's a chance they might just push Ultimate a little further until they figure out what to do next.

COUGHBecause of TourCOUGH

Ahem

Sorry, had something caught in my throat

 

[Opossum]

my most wanted stage for the next smash game what do you guys think?
the 3 smrpg and windows stages on the bottom are shapeshifting stages btw
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I mean I get that it's a personal list, but...man.

I'd be so beyond disappointed if they used one of the new Pokémon stage slots for an anime-exclusive stage.

 

[Nabbitfan730]

Yeah. There is really isn't connecting issue between the 2 games to assume the same will happen for Ultimate.

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is a port of Wii U game which became the best-selling Switch, Mario Kart and racing title of all the time, is still continuing to sell to this day and Nintendo obviously wanted to capitalize on it with extra DLC even much years later.


Other than that, no other multiplayer game from Nintendo gets that treatment. It's clear that MK8D is a very special case.


As much of a success the game was, you can't say the same for Ultimate. Nintendo already squeezed all the juice they needed from it

 

[Guynamednelson]

so Smash will too

Minus that one guy who thinks that Noah must be DLC because something's off about his spirit, I think for most people it's a "could", not "will".

But I don't think Noah and Mio would be a part of an FP3/Booster Fighter Pass/whatever if Rex and Pyra was considered impossible.

 

[Sucumbio]

Like most of the X comments and on here I don't think the missing series name is anything but clown food but even if it's meant to make people think about xbc3 for the next Smash I pretty much feel like they're in. Ooo forgot to add that as a "lock" indicator when xbc4 is on the next console.

 

[Geno Boost]

I mean I get that it's a personal list, but...man.

I'd be so beyond disappointed if they used one of the new Pokémon stage slots for an anime-exclusive stage.

new island is mewtwo home stage though its the most memorable area where mewtwo played a major role

 

[Opossum]

new island is mewtwo home stage though its the most memorable area where mewtwo played a major role

I mean...

Cerulean Cave exists.

 

[Noipoi]

I’ll never forgive the guy who made a fake screenshot of Pokefloats 2

 

[osby]

my most wanted stage for the next smash game what do you guys think?
the 3 smrpg and windows stages on the bottom are shapeshifting stages btw
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*Diamond Realm

Finally, Buddhism can be canon to Super Smash Bros.

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

I mean...

Cerulean Cave exists.

Or where you fight Shadow Mewtwo in Pokken.

Yes, to give an excuse for Pokken music in Smash.

.....I just want to fight to Phos Volcano's track, ok?

 

[Geno Boost]

I mean...

Cerulean Cave exists.

yeah but but i dont think there is any gimmick beside swimming?
new island can be a transportive kind of stage where it goes to multiple area around the building with different platform layouts and maybe even fight against clones or try avoid getting hit by Mewtwo balls that capture anyone that touches it
like the stage can start in this area

then goes inside

then enters the stadium

maybe goes here as well

 

[Deleted member]

The best newcomers for Smash 6 are:
Bandana Waddle Dee Kirby
Bomberman from Bomberman
Ryoma from Fire Emblem
Space Invanders Space Invanders
Raiden from metal gear solid
Aerith from Final Fantasy
Waluigi from Super Mario
Scorpion from Mortal Kombat
Takamaru from Mysterious Musarame Castle
Tails from sonic the hedgehog
Paper Mario from Paper Mario
Jin kazama from Tekken
Geno from Super Mario
Octoling from Splatoon
Shadow From Sonic The Hedgehog
Snorlax from Pokemon
Double post,please delete

 

[fogbadge]

what about the pokemon mansion?

 

[Noipoi]

The newcomers for Smash 6 are:
Bandana Waddle Dee Kirby
Bomberman from Bomberman
Ryoma from Fire Emblem
Space Invanders Space Invanders
Raiden from metal gear solid
Aerith from Final Fantasy
Waluigi from Super Mario
Scorpion from Mortal Kombat
Takamaru from Mysterious Musarame Castle
Tails from sonic the hedgehog
Paper Mario from Paper Mario
Jin kazama from Tekken

How am I supposed to enjoy this roster without a Pokemon??

 

[Deleted member]

How am I supposed to enjoy this roster without a Pokemon??

Hmm....?,how about a pokemon newcomer Such as maybe snorlax?

 

[BuckleyTim]

Jin is metatextually such a funny idea to add to Smash. We already got Cloud and Sephiroth's thing going on, might as well add the Mishima Blood Feud to the game as well

 

[Deleted member]

Jin is metatextually such a funny idea to add to Smash. We already got Cloud and Sephiroth's thing going on, might as well add the Mishima Blood Feud to the game as well


if Jin kazama is a newcomer,that would be awesome

 

[Guynamednelson]

Well,if Jin kazama is a newcomer,he would be an echo fighter of Kazuya mishima but with some different attacks.

Jin after Tekken Tag Tournament wasn't a clone of Kazuya anymore, but Devil Jin is perfect for SSBU's Kazuya moveset. Just have him permanently stuck in his devil form instead of shifting to it depending on the move and bam, you got yourself a decent DVJ moveset.

 

[Nabbitfan730]

The newcomers for Smash 6 are:
Bandana Waddle Dee Kirby
Bomberman from Bomberman
Ryoma from Fire Emblem
Space Invanders Space Invanders
Raiden from metal gear solid
Aerith from Final Fantasy
Waluigi from Super Mario
Scorpion from Mortal Kombat
Takamaru from Mysterious Musarame Castle
Tails from sonic the hedgehog
Paper Mario from Paper Mario
Jin kazama from Tekken

No Geno? No Shadow? No Splatoon Newcomer? Decidueye?

Off-base!
Off-Sync!
Rejected!

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

**** it, music time.

Post music from recent games you want in the next Smash.

I'll start

And Piranha Plants on Parade better get a full remix

Bottom text

 

[Deleted member]

Other Newcomers that could be in Smash 6
Shadow
Geno
Octoling
Snorlax

 

[CannonStreak]

Sorry,but i made another post that some other newcomers could be in Smash 6

You know, there is an edit button, and heads up: Double posting isn't really allowed.

 

[Sucumbio]

I'm curious if any pokeballs could be upgraded. I know it has happened with Assist Trophies but since it hasn't happened with Pokeballs one must wonder

 

[Deleted member]

You know, there is an edit button, and heads up: Double posting isn't really allowed.

I know,I added extra newcomers into the list of best newcomers for Smash 6

 

[fogbadge]

I'm curious if any pokeballs could be upgraded. I know it has happened with Assist Trophies but since it hasn't happened with Pokeballs one must wonder

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