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Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

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I always thought it was kinda weird that FEH doesnt do crossovers where basically every other mobile game does.
It's almost certainly because IS treats it as a mainline title and not like a spinoff. That, and the fandom itself isn't receptive to the idea. The closest we've ever gotten was the single TMS banner in the game's lifetime and a lot of people forget that, at the time, that was one of the most controversial banners in the entire game.
 

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Fire Emblem Heroes is going to start crossovers until it reaches it's true final form: Smash Bros :troll:


So I got something to pass the time. Supposedly, a survey was sent to Fortnite players asking them what they're familiar with and it includes just about what you can think of. Movies, anime, comics, brands, celebrities, television, etc. But it also includes video games and video game characters, including some Nintendo ones. Which ones do you recognise on these lists?
Regardless on whether the list is real or not, seeing Mystical Ninja lightens my heart. :cheep:
I signed up for Epic's Fortnite surveys last week and didn't get this, between that and Joe Rogan I'm going to assume this isn't real. That said, I want Wario Fortnite to happen with all my heart lmao.

Actually it could totally be real and Fortnite is just ignoring me, but that just makes me a little sad lol
 

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We will know proceed to reignit th debate of her being too sexy to smash

On the topic of Morrigan, they can clearly cover-up Morrigan if they need to. Because Capcom has before:
And Morrigan, despite being a succubus, is still fairly tame for the most part. If Sakurai wanted her, I doubt she'd give much difficulty.
Without a new Smash for us to talk about, of course it feels like Groundhog Day.
 

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My question is: between Demitri and Felicia, who would be the Assist Trophy (assuming Morrigan is base game)?
 

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My question is: between Demitri and Felicia, who would be the Assist Trophy (assuming Morrigan is base game)?
I'm going to assume Felicia is off the table due to her design (although Sakurai could ask for a redesign), so Demitri or Donovan would be Darkstalkers' assist trophy. I don't think Midnight Bliss would realistically be a thing though. There are too many IP holders with varying management styles for their series for that to be feasible from a licensing perspective.

Although, the coolest option is to have Lord Raptor do his slam dunk attack.
 

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My question is: between Demitri and Felicia, who would be the Assist Trophy (assuming Morrigan is base game)?
IDK if Demitri's Midnight Bliss would be feasible in Smash. I'd like to see it though.

Felicia's outfit probably would be an issue.

BB Hood, Jon Talbain, Anakaris, or Hsien-Ko also seem like possible AT options.

Lilith could be Morrigan's alt ala Olimar/Alph.
 

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IDK if Demitri's Midnight Bliss would be feasible in Smash. I'd like to see it though.

Felicia's outfit probably would be an issue.

BB Hood, Jon Talbain, Anakaris, or Hsien-Ko also seem like possible AT options.

Lilith could be Morrigan's alt ala Olimar/Alph.
I more likely see Lilith as a Morrigan Echo Fighter if not the outright next best thing as a succubus rep
 

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I more likely see Lilith as a Morrigan Echo Fighter if not the outright next best thing as a succubus rep
its possible but as much as i like to see Morrigan make it in she has major competition within her company as well as her genre.

id be surprised if they set Lilith aside as an echo (considering how relatively low priority I feel Morrigan would be for Smash). I feel like they'll either give Morrigan an alt referencing Lilith or the Alph situation.

as always im just speculating and i have no clue whats gonna happen.
 

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IDK if Demitri's Midnight Bliss would be feasible in Smash. I'd like to see it though.
Have him do something similar to Knuckle Joe where when he is first summoned, he does either Chaos Flare, Bat Spin or Demon Cradle for a while and then finishes off with him turning into his MB form and grabbing the opponent and doing a strong combo attack.
And for the record, he's capable of doing Midnight Bliss without the need to transform the opponent.
 

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So I got something to pass the time. Supposedly, a survey was sent to Fortnite players asking them what they're familiar with and it includes just about what you can think of. Movies, anime, comics, brands, celebrities, television, etc. But it also includes video games and video game characters, including some Nintendo ones. Which ones do you recognise on these lists?
Regardless on whether the list is real or not, seeing Mystical Ninja lightens my heart. :cheep:
I have a pretty live and let live attitude with Fortnite. I get these very popular, pretty young-skewing franchises just aren't for me, I lapsed the time window when I probably would've gotten into them, and I feel no reason to hate on it simply because it's huge and kids dig it. In fact, I'm quite impressed with how many worlds Fortnite has managed to fold in under their art style, even if they are mostly just skins.

That said-
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If they digitally exhume and add a skin of ****ing Kurt Cobain I may go full middle-school levels of petty. That would be pretty messed up. That's within spitting distance of a Black Mirror episode at that point.

Not to exclude Juice Wrld, Freddie Mercury and Michael Jackson. But Cobain certainly had thoughts on commercialism. And then you end up flossing in Fortnite. That's a rough one.
 

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But Cobain certainly had thoughts on commercialism. And then you end up flossing in Fortnite. That's a rough one.
I'm sure there'd also be some...discomfort about putting a man who shot himself in a shooter.
 

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ahem To do another take on a topic I presented earlier this week:

Let’s say Smash Ultimate got another year to cook and some of the DLC characters were in the base game…but then you got to choose brand new characters to fill the slot left behind. Which existing DLC characters would you move to the base game and which characters would you pick to fill the now-empty slots? For me:
  • 70. Piranha Plant
  • 71-72. Pyra / Mythra
  • 73. Byleth
  • 74. Min Min
  • 75. Banjo & Kazooie
Vol. 1
  • 76. Joker
  • 77. Hero
  • 78. Crash Bandicoot
  • 79. Estelle Bright
  • 80. Terry
  • 81. Steve
Vol. 2
  • 82. Chun-Li
  • 83. Dr Eggman
  • 84. Sephiroth
  • 85. Ring Fit Trainee
  • 86. Kazuya
  • 87. Sora
 

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its possible but as much as i like to see Morrigan make it in she has major competition within her company as well as her genre.
There are basically two big things that I think make Morrigan possible, albeit somewhat unlikely:
1. We seem to get a traditional fighting game character during each wave of Smash DLC ( :ultryu: for Smash for, :ult_terry: for FP1, :ultkazuya: for FP2).
2. Our fighting game characters have, thus far, come exclusively from the golden age of Japanese arcade fighting games during the '90s.

This alone gives Morrigan a niche she could occupy. Darkstalkers is still a fondly remembered and influential classic of that era, especially in Japan. Being Capcom's other big fighting game franchise during that era certainly helps. Plus, Morrigan has a pretty unique moveset in terms of normals and potential mechanics that could be introduced and... other qualities that continue to make her incredibly popular 20+ years after Vampire Hunter/Saviour 2 was released.

That being said, Chun-Li, Sol, Scorpion, Nightmare, Nakoruru, a (dedicated) KoF character, and Kasumi could all theoretically occupy this spot as well, so I definitely agree she's not a shoe-in. Her being in competition with Capcom's stable is also a roadblock, but I have a hunch we'll get more than one Capcom character next game. There are just too many great choices to not double-dip.
 

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There are basically two big things that I think make Morrigan possible, albeit somewhat unlikely:
1. We seem to get a traditional fighting game character during each wave of Smash DLC ( :ultryu: for Smash for, :ult_terry: for FP1, :ultkazuya: for FP2).
2. Our fighting game characters have, thus far, come exclusively from the golden age of Japanese arcade fighting games during the '90s.

This alone gives Morrigan a niche she could occupy. Darkstalkers is still a fondly remembered and influential classic of that era, especially in Japan. Being Capcom's other big fighting game franchise during that era certainly helps. Plus, Morrigan has a pretty unique moveset in terms of normals and potential mechanics that could be introduced and... other qualities that continue to make her incredibly popular 20+ years after Vampire Hunter/Saviour 2 was released.

That being said, Chun-Li, Sol, Scorpion, Nightmare, Nakoruru, a (dedicated) KoF character, and Kasumi could all theoretically occupy this spot as well, so I definitely agree she's not a shoe-in. Her being in competition with Capcom's stable is also a roadblock, but I have a hunch we'll get more than one Capcom character next game. There are just too many great choices to not double-dip.
I agree

we'll see if the FG character streak continues in Smash 6. I'd like Ryu, Terry, and Kazuya to return so Sol, Chun-Li, and Scorpion can join them as they'd represent the biggest FG franchises in Smash. I feel like those 6 characters would be diverse and celebrate the genre Smash came from so well. Any other FG characters would be a bonus.
 

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There are basically two big things that I think make Morrigan possible, albeit somewhat unlikely:
1. We seem to get a traditional fighting game character during each wave of Smash DLC ( :ultryu: for Smash for, :ult_terry: for FP1, :ultkazuya: for FP2).
2. Our fighting game characters have, thus far, come exclusively from the golden age of Japanese arcade fighting games during the '90s.

This alone gives Morrigan a niche she could occupy. Darkstalkers is still a fondly remembered and influential classic of that era, especially in Japan. Being Capcom's other big fighting game franchise during that era certainly helps. Plus, Morrigan has a pretty unique moveset in terms of normals and potential mechanics that could be introduced and... other qualities that continue to make her incredibly popular 20+ years after Vampire Hunter/Saviour 2 was released.

That being said, Chun-Li, Sol, Scorpion, Nightmare, Nakoruru, a (dedicated) KoF character, and Kasumi could all theoretically occupy this spot as well, so I definitely agree she's not a shoe-in. Her being in competition with Capcom's stable is also a roadblock, but I have a hunch we'll get more than one Capcom character next game. There are just too many great choices to not double-dip.
This is true for every single wave of newcomers since Smash 4's DLC period, as Ken was added in Ultimate's base game.
 

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Mario vs Sonic vs Crash

How do you NOT want the 90's war in this?
Because the 90s war was between the consoles. When it comes to mascots, Crash was never in their league.

Crash is too iconic to not be forgotten at this point
"at this point", Crash is lucky the "Whoah!" meme exists so kids today even know he exists.
 
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Because the 90s war was between the consoles. When it comes to mascots, Crash was never in their league.

"at this point", Crash is lucky the "Whoah!" meme exists so kids today even know he exists.
Crash just had a big new game a few years ago. The remakes were a big success, there was a mobile game, and he was a friggin Skylander.

I'm not saying he's as popular with kids as Skibidi Toilet or whatever, but there's gotta be a decent chunk of kids who are Crash fans at this point.
 

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Crash was a viable figure as a console mascot (even when Sony never officially owned him) but he ultimately lacked the media potential that a Sonic had or the gaming consistency that Mario possessed so in some ways he's venerated more for that 1996-2000 golden age than anything else. His recent games have been very solid, its just the doesn't have that same status circa the PSX era.
 
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For me, the late 90s saw PlayStation was master, and yet there was no real mascot for them. Had Crash crossed over into other titles, maybe, but I recall feeling as if they were trying to compete with this need for an animated cartoon animal platform character when their bread and butter was zombies and machine guns.
 

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I think the next Smash should get an even Better Character Creator!
Size, Costumes, Miis, Sportsmates, Some other Heads, Almost all generic Special!
I mean lets say next smash gets only 3 zelda chars but theres a Full Link moveset and toon link costume that would be cool!
 

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I say as a console mascot, Crash had a great run. All of his games were among the best in the PlayStation titles. It's just that he didn't last that long as a mascot because Sony only had exclusive rights to the series for a few years. But even then, he had a such a solid run that fans will always remember him as a PlayStation mascot to this day. That's quite an accomplishment for such a short run.
 

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i'm quite annoyed that the one mainline crash game i actually owned we're are now supposed to pretend didn't happen

if they do the same thing with spyro i'm gonna be out for blood
 

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i'm quite annoyed that the one mainline crash game i actually owned we're are now supposed to pretend didn't happen

if they do the same thing with spyro i'm gonna be out for blood
Are you talking about Wrath of Cortex? Because uh, yeah I don’t blame them for saying that one doesn’t exist.
 

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I think the next Smash should get an even Better Character Creator!
Size, Costumes, Miis, Sportsmates, Some other Heads, Almost all generic Special!
I mean lets say next smash gets only 3 zelda chars but theres a Full Link moveset and toon link costume that would be cool!
No , no character creator. Alternative versions of characters are fine. Or more characters having semi clones or Echoes. But that only works absolutely best if ae get a Ultimate DX version cause of the massive character roster. Easier to make clones that way.
 

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i'm quite annoyed that the one mainline crash game i actually owned we're are now supposed to pretend didn't happen

if they do the same thing with spyro i'm gonna be out for blood
Which Spyro game are we talking?
If it's any of the Legend of Spyro games, opinions are split but they're not forgotten.
If it's Skylanders, the only thing people are trying to forget is Spyro's design.
If it's any other Spyro game that's not classic, then... you're out of luck.
 

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Which Spyro game are we talking?
If it's any of the Legend of Spyro games, opinions are split but they're not forgotten.
If it's Skylanders, the only thing people are trying to forget is Spyro's design.
If it's any other Spyro game that's not classic, then... you're out of luck.
i actually don't remember the name. the main things i remember is he had bubble breath, there was a crop circle farm stage and i think i glitched into the final boss to early
 

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but he ultimately lacked the media potential that a Sonic had
At one point, Crash was more popular than Sonic. Imagine that

Because the 90s war was between the consoles. When it comes to mascots, Crash was never in their league.
Hate to point it out to you, but there were multiple commercials, successful games, and even multiple action figures

At one point, Crash ended up becoming more popular than Sonic. That was pretty surprising to read and he had that potential to end up being the mascot for Sony.
 

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i actually don't remember the name. the main things i remember is he had bubble breath, there was a crop circle farm stage and i think i glitched into the final boss to early
Year of the Dragonfly. That's the one I grew up with as well. I enjoyed it well enough when I first played it, but don't if it holds up as I never went back to it.

I do know that it's very glitchy and poorly optimized, which is why I'm guessing it's so divisive among Spyro fans.
 
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