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I just wanna say kudos for using some of that good-ass classic Compile-era art for ArleA day ago I challenged myself to form a lineup of exactly 100 unique fighters. The only caveat I made myself obey were that I could only have a maximum of six straight clone characters (same number as Melee). Otherwise, I gave myself no restrictions for the other 94 choices, meaning I was free to include whoever I wanted and reimagine/update returning choices as I pleased. This is what I came up with in a subpar collage.
Wanted to do this as a decent distraction for the thread. Feel free to give your thoughts and opinions, hopefully I can ignite some fresher discussion with this whole "100 fighters" thing.
Hammer time!
Decided to give this a shot - Limited myself to three reps per third-party company.A day ago I challenged myself to form a lineup of exactly 100 unique fighters. The only caveat I made myself obey were that I could only have a maximum of six straight clone characters (same number as Melee). Otherwise, I gave myself no restrictions for the other 94 choices, meaning I was free to include whoever I wanted and reimagine/update returning choices as I pleased. This is what I came up with in a subpar collage.
Wanted to do this as a decent distraction for the thread. Feel free to give your thoughts and opinions, hopefully I can ignite some fresher discussion with this whole "100 fighters" thing.
Decided to take my own whack at 100 fighters, quoted from another thread:A day ago I challenged myself to form a lineup of exactly 100 unique fighters. The only caveat I made myself obey were that I could only have a maximum of six straight clone characters (same number as Melee). Otherwise, I gave myself no restrictions for the other 94 choices, meaning I was free to include whoever I wanted and reimagine/update returning choices as I pleased. This is what I came up with in a subpar collage.
Wanted to do this as a decent distraction for the thread. Feel free to give your thoughts and opinions, hopefully I can ignite some fresher discussion with this whole "100 fighters" thing.
This is moreso me revising an existing roster, but I still feel proud of most of my choices:
Luigi Mario Donkey Kong Link Samus Captain Falcon Ness Yoshi Kirby Fox Pikachu Meowth
Mario Luigi Peach Bowser Donkey Kong Link Zelda / Sheik Ganondorf Samus Yoshi Kirby Fox Falco Pikachu Meowth Mewtwo Ness Captain Falcon Ice Climbers Marth Mr. Game & Watch
Mario Luigi Peach Bowser Yoshi Wario Donkey Kong Diddy Kong Dixie Kong Link Zelda / Sheik Ganondorf Tetra Samus / Zero Suit Samus Kirby Meta Knight King Dedede Fox Falco Wolf Pikachu Pokémon Trainer (Totodile / Grovyle / Charizard) Meowth Mewtwo Plusle & Minun Lucario Ness Lucas Captain Falcon Ice Climbers Marth Lyn Ike Mr. Game & Watch Pit Olimar Isaac DeMille R.O.B. Snake Sonic RANDOM
Mario Luigi Peach Bowser Paper Mario Bowser Jr. Rosalina & Luma Yoshi Wario Donkey Kong Diddy Kong Link Zelda Sheik Ganondorf Tetra Ghirahim Samus Zero Suit Samus Kirby Meta Knight King Dedede Fox Falco Pikachu Meowth Lucario Greninja Ness Captain Falcon Marth Lyn Ike Robin Mr. Game & Watch Pit Palutena Olimar / Alph Isabelle Wii Fit Trainer Little Mac Shulk Duck Hunt Takamaru Dixie Kong Lucina Dark Pit Sonic Mega Man PAC-MAN
Mewtwo (DLC) Rayman (DLC) Ryu (DLC) Lucas (DLC) Cloud (DLC) Azura (DLC) Bayonetta (DLC) Mii Fighters (Brawler / Swordfighter / Gunner; base game)
64 Melee Brawl for 3DS / Wii U Ultimate
- 1. Mario
- 2. Donkey Kong
- 3. Link
- 4. Samus
- 4ε. Dark Samus
- 5. Yoshi
- 6. Kirby
- 7. Fox
- 8. Pikachu
- 9. Luigi
- 10. Ness
- 11. Captain Falcon
- 12. Meowth
- 13. Peach
- 13ε. Daisy
- 14. Bowser
- 15. Zelda
- 16. Sheik
- 16ε. Yiga
- 17. Ice Climbers
- 18. Ganondorf
- 19. Falco
- 20. Mewtwo
- 21. Marth
- 21ε. Lucina
- 22. Mr. Game & Watch
- 23. Meta Knight
- 24. Lyn
- 25. Pit
- 25ε. Dark Pit
- 26. Wario
- 27. Snake
- 28. Ike
- 29. Zero Suit Samus
- 30. Wario
- 31. Plusle & Minun
- 32. Olimar
- 32ε. Alph
- 33-35. Pokémon Trainer (Totodile / Grovyle / Charizard)
- 36. Diddy Kong
- 36ε. Dixie Kong
- 37. Lucas
- 38. Sonic
- 39. King Dedede
- 40. Tetra
- 41. Wolf
- 42. Lucario
- 43. Isaac
- 44. DeMille
- 45. R.O.B.
- 46. Isabelle
- 47. Mega Man
- 48. Wii Fit Trainer
- 49. Rosalina & Luma
- 50. Paper Mario
- 51. Little Mac
- 51ε. Glass Joe
- 52. Ghirahim
- 53. Greninja
- 54-56. Mii Fighters (Brawler / Swordfighter / Gunner)
- 57. Palutena
- 58. PAC-MAN
- 59. Robin
- 60. Shulk
- 61. Bowser Jr.
- 62. Duck Hunt
- 63. Takamaru
- 64. Rayman
- 65. Ryu
- 65ε. Ken
- 66. Cloud
- 67. Azura
- 68. Bayonetta
- 69. Inkling
- 70. Simon
- 70ε. Richter
- 71. Ridley
- 72. King K. Rool
- 73. Bandana Waddle Dee
- 74. Incineroar
- 75. Banjo & Kazooie
Vol. 1 Vol. 2
- 76. Joker
- 77. Hero
- 78. Crash Bandicoot
- 79. Estelle Bright
- 80-82. Team NEO GEO
- Terry Bogard
- Iori Yagami
- Nakoruru
- 83. Steve
- 84. Chun-Li
- 85. Dr. Eggman
- 86. Sephiroth
- 87-88. Pyra / Mythra
- 89. Kazuya Mishima
- 90. Sora
Nice. Is this intended for a Smash game or a new Hyrule Warriors game? Either way, it looks like there are a lot of fun characters here (but some people would argue it might go a bit far in making up for Smash’s lack of Zelda characters if it’s for Smash lol).Here is a roster i made with some smash ands hyrule wariors assets:
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Sadly i didnt have specific assets so i had to use those i had!
Interesting. I’ve never heard of that game before but it’s always fun to learn about new games and characters through Smash. It’s been too long for me since that’s happened.I just now thought of Frey and Freya, the two protagonists from Zangeki no Reginleiv. They could in my opinion come as newcomers in future Super Smash Bros. games, but the question is whether Freya should have her own moves or be a clone or echo of Frey, although I've never played Zangeki no Reginleiv and that makes sense since it was only released in Japan.
Thank heavens Vaati isn't completely forgottenHere is a roster i made with some smash ands hyrule wariors assets:
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Sadly i didnt have specific assets so i had to use those i had!
I'd actually thought of Frey and Freya myself at some point, though I'm not holding my breath of them, given their Japan-only status. We all know how Sakurai approaches characters like THAT nowadays...I just now thought of Frey and Freya, the two protagonists from Zangeki no Reginleiv. They could in my opinion come as newcomers in future Super Smash Bros. games, but the question is whether Freya should have her own moves or be a clone or echo of Frey, although I've never played Zangeki no Reginleiv and that makes sense since it was only released in Japan.
Its for a zelda only smash and 36 characters are certainly possible in that case unlikely yes but not impossible!Nice. Is this intended for a Smash game or a new Hyrule Warriors game? Either way, it looks like there are a lot of fun characters here (but some people would argue it might go a bit far in making up for Smash’s lack of Zelda characters if it’s for Smash lol).
Interesting. I’ve never heard of that game before but it’s always fun to learn about new games and characters through Smash. It’s been too long for me since that’s happened.
Being a big Final Fantasy IX fan, my mind always goes to Freya Crescent when I hear the name Freya. She’d also be a fun fighter in Smash though she’d probably get passed over for Zidane, Vivi, or maybe Garnet.
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I'm just saying...it took Actual Smash until Brawl to get to that amount. And no non-Smash platform fighter has even reached that amount, besides Brawlhalla, which not only follows a Games As A Service style model, but tons of the characters are also just alternate skins, inflating the count.Its for a zelda only smash and 36 characters are certainly possible in that case unlikely yes but not impossible!
It’s possible Oracle was counting the potential DLC in that number. Ultimate got 12 characters I believe. It’s reasonable with a starting roster of 20-25, we could potentially reach 36 by the time it is done.I'm just saying...it took Actual Smash until Brawl to get to that amount. And no non-Smash platform fighter has even reached that amount, besides Brawlhalla, which not only follows a Games As A Service style model, but tons of the characters are also just alternate skins, inflating the count.
As a point of comparison:
Super Smash Bros. (N64) - 12
Super Smash Bros. Melee - 26
Super Smash Bros. Brawl - 39
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS/Wii U - 58 (51 base)
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - 89 (76 base)
DreamMix TV World Fighters - 17
TMNT Smash Up (Wii) - 16
Cartoon Network PunchTime Explosion - 18
Cartoon Network PunchTime Explosion XL - 26
PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale - 24 (20 base)
Rivals of Aether - 18
BrawlOut - 25
Slap City - 11
Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl - 25 (20 base)
Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl 2 - ~29 (~25 base)
Multiversus - 23 (16 base)
Fraymakers - 6 revealed, ~10 planned (?)
When it comes to platform fighters, and even including the really bad early ones like Punch-Time Explosion and Smash Up, 36 characters for a first entry is literally unheard of. Like...it's significantly more than anything else's first go at the moment.
The sweet spot as of right now is about 20-25, not 36. That's far less realistic for a first entry.
The again, it's not even a guarantee that Smash itself is gonna get 12 DLC characters every time, let alone a new series on its first go. Not to mention Smash didn't even do 12 for its first go-round.It’s possible Oracle was counting the potential DLC in that number. Ultimate got 12 characters I believe. It’s reasonable with a starting roster of 20-25, we could potentially reach 36 by the time it is done.
Fair enough. I’m guessing it’s just for fun too. It can definitely be challenging to narrow down lists like this and not feel like you’re leaving out a lot of favorites. I’d love to do the same for a hypothetical second TMNT platform fighter since I feel Smash Up never really lived up to its potential.The again, it's not even a guarantee that Smash itself is gonna get 12 DLC characters every time, let alone a new series on its first go. Not to mention Smash didn't even do 12 for its first go-round.
That said, I am guessing this hypothetical Zelda Smash roster is just for fun anyway
Wow! I never really thought about it but them adding 25 characters to base to start with 76 characters... no wonder they be like nah we ain't doing this again lol really does put into perspective what a massive deal ultimate was to produce.Super Smash Bros. for 3DS/Wii U - 58 (51 base)
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - 89 (76 base)
Society if Mario stages weren't 8 billion takes on World 1One thing I think would be pretty interesting to see in a hypothetical "Smash reboot" is how different series would be represented without the need to grandfather in older content for the sake of it. It'd be especially cool for some series that have been around for ages, like Metroid or The Legend of Zelda, given there's a lot of things like stages you could include without being beholden to "rising lava stage quotas" or something
I'm a hypocrite. I'm as sick of all the 1-1 stages as the next guy, but I really wish Bomb-Omb Battlefield was a stage and that's the textbook definition of generic grassy field.Society if Mario stages weren't 8 billion takes on World 1
A Lynel is definitely a character I miss. Maybe Moblins too. Could have a masked version of Young Link, Tetra, Phantom Ganon too. But overall good list.Here is a roster i made with some smash ands hyrule wariors assets:
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Sadly i didnt have specific assets so i had to use those i had!
Neither was I. I was not the biggest fan of that feature myself. It did change battles some and make them a bit more chaotic, if you know what I mean, but that is it.I'm not sure everybody else but I think I can do without the stage morphing feature for the next game. It's one of the few things in Smash Ultimate that I was never really excited about anyway.
Same here. It’s kind of cool in concept but I honestly completely forgot it was a thing.Neither was I. I was not the biggest fan of that feature myself. It did change battles some and make them a bit more chaotic, if you know what I mean, but that is it.
You know what? In hindsight, I think it would've been better to trade Stage Morph for the return of every stage in the Smash series*, including skins based off previous versions of Battlefield and Final Destination.I'm not sure about everybody else but I think I can do without the stage morphing feature for the next game. It's one of the few things in Smash Ultimate that I was never really excited about anyway.
I'll give this a shot. Not in the mood for revising history so let's just have the original 82 unique characters we already have.A day ago I challenged myself to form a lineup of exactly 100 unique fighters. The only caveat I made myself obey were that I could only have a maximum of six straight clone characters (same number as Melee). Otherwise, I gave myself no restrictions for the other 94 choices, meaning I was free to include whoever I wanted and reimagine/update returning choices as I pleased. This is what I came up with in a subpar collage.
Wanted to do this as a decent distraction for the thread. Feel free to give your thoughts and opinions, hopefully I can ignite some fresher discussion with this whole "100 fighters" thing.
83. Ryu Hayabusa [Ninja Gaiden]A day ago I challenged myself to form a lineup of exactly 100 unique fighters.
1. Manny CalaveraThere was a problem fetching the tweetWho would you choose?
My picks would be: (having 7 fighters)
- Bandana Dee (Kirby needs more than just representation from Sakurai's games)
- Crash Bandicoot (Popular third party request)
- Dixie Kong (The next one after K. Rool)
- Amaterasu (More quadruped animal fighters)
- Toxtricity (Pokémon didn't get a Gen 8 rep during Smash's DLC)
- Dr. Eggman (Sonic needs a villain rep)
- Master Chief (Pretty iconic to finish with)
If I'm picking purely from my own personal bias:There was a problem fetching the tweetWho would you choose?
My picks would be: (having 7 fighters)
- Bandana Dee (Kirby needs more than just representation from Sakurai's games)
- Crash Bandicoot (Popular third party request)
- Dixie Kong (The next one after K. Rool)
- Amaterasu (More quadruped animal fighters)
- Toxtricity (Pokémon didn't get a Gen 8 rep during Smash's DLC)
- Dr. Eggman (Sonic needs a villain rep)
- Master Chief (Pretty iconic to finish with)