Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

What noble goals? In wind waker he talks about the difference between gerudo desert and hyrule and then says that he “coveted that wind”. He’s talking about how he’s jealous of the kingdom and that’s what spurred him to try a conqueror it. He doesn’t say anything about making anything better for anyone else he just says he wants hyrule. In fact this can be seen in the games cause the one in wind waker is the same one from ocarina of time who left his people in the desert. He has no noble goals

What demise says is “an incarnation of my hate” key word there being incarnation which means flesh and blood. He’s not talking about how his hate will take control of someone he’s saying his hate will take on a life of its own. He is the hatred

the triforce of power stuck with him cause as shiek told us the piece that remains with him was the bit he most believed in. If he was being controlled by an outside force it wouldn’t have been power would it? He’s power mad

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This is why I actually like Ganondorf. He can have noble goals. He's just forced unto evil. He mildly dies as himself as WW, and while not redeeming himself, is no longer forced to be evil by the curse. He could be revived and do his own thing. It makes sense why it doesn't work in FSA. He was still tied to said Triforce piece, as the curse was never broken, so they couldn't raise him to be a good person. Destiny shot that in the face because Demise is a jerk.

 

[fogbadge]

Spoiler: Long

This is why I actually like Ganondorf. He can have noble goals. He's just forced unto evil. He mildly dies as himself as WW, and while not redeeming himself, is no longer forced to be evil by the curse. He could be revived and do his own thing. It makes sense why it doesn't work in FSA. He was still tied to said Triforce piece, as the curse was never broken, so they couldn't raise him to be a good person. Destiny shot that in the face because Demise is a jerk.

you can't tell me my premise doesn't work with the canon when your isn't even based on it. at no pint in any of the games does he ever say he wanted to help his people. what he says is
" My country lay within a vast desert. When the sun rose into the sky, a burning wind punished my lands, searing the world. And when the moon climbed into the dark of night, a frigid gale pierced our homes. No matter when it came, the wind carried the same thing... Death. But the winds that blew across the green fields of Hyrule brought something other than suffering and ruin. I coveted that wind, I suppose"
there's nothing in there about helping people. ganondorf doesn't have noble thoughts or ideas all he ever talks about is conquest, revenge and power. nothing he ever says in any game in any piece of media suggests there even the slightest piece of goodness in him. we know this by his own words and his own actions.
hyrule historia describes it as reincarnation not as a curse taking control of him.
what have the other villains got to do with this? they can't be part of the curse cause the curse is on hyrule link and zelda, meaning the evil returns to plague them. malldalus was there before tetra and link arrived and before the land became hyrule, can't be related. yuga, only in the sense that anyone is related to their alternate universe counterpart. the nightmares, they went after the wind fish. lady maude, not in hyrule. majora's mask, made to curse people. also termina is a figment of skull kid's imagination according to one of the later books. the only one who comes close is vaati whose obsession with power is quite similar to ganon's yet we can still rule him out as he exsists at the same time as another version of ganondorf who went after the mirror of darkness cause he wanted power. again. ganon isn't corrupted. he's just evil

you can still like the guy even if he has no goodness in him he's a fictional character it doesn't matter

edit: wait a second, have we had this debate before? Oh blimey we’ve gone in a giant circle

 

[Stratos]

Just now a while ago I thought of another character for the sequel to The Super Mario Bros. Movie and he is Wart. Although I still want Wario, Waluigi, Daisy and Rosalina.

 

[Wonder Smash]

is that one of those ones that really looks like it wants to be a movie?

No, it's one of those games looks like it was influenced by movies.

 

[fogbadge]

Yeah it's ... Well I guess so lol. It's "realistic" setting is definitely evocative of the more cinematic types of games that are in the genre. The gameplay is really smooth and easy to get used to.

i believe i watched a friend of mine play the opening to it and thought the way it was mimicking opening credits for a film to be quite odd

 

[Amornal1]

Who do you guys think is the most undertalked pick for the next Smash Bros character ? In my case i think that it's between shin megami tensei protagonist and Bill rizer from contra

 

[Nabbitfan730]

Octoling
Spring Man
Shadow or Tails
Jack Frost
Magolor
Mach Rider

are few undertalked about picks from my head

 

[Wonder Smash]

Who do you guys think is the most undertalked pick for the next Smash Bros character ? In my case i think that it's between shin megami tensei protagonist and Bill rizer from contra

Adol Christin from Ys.
Lolo and Lala from Eggerland.

 

[TCT~Phantom]

Octoling
Spring Man
Shadow or Tails
Jack Frost
Magolor
Mach Rider

are few undertalked about picks from my head

I wouldn’t call Octolings under discussed. They are one of the most obvious picks out there. Splatoon is getting a second rep, and they are front and shoulders the front runner.

Who do you guys think is the most undertalked pick for the next Smash Bros character ? In my case i think that it's between shin megami tensei protagonist and Bill rizer from contra

Here are a few imo that are underrated/under discussed.

• Pauline
• Ashley
• Tom Nook
• Officer Howard
• Excitebiker
• Alis Landale (Phantasy Star)
• Adol (Ys)
• Resident Evil (Chris, Leon, Jill, take your pick)
• The Traveller (Genshin)
• A league of legends character

 

[HyperSomari64]

Who do you guys think is the most undertalked pick for the next Smash Bros character ?

You already know the franchise i want for Smash (look at my pfp for pete's sake).
But i don't necesarilly want Blanc, when there are better options to choose.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Okay, so the ActiBlizz deal may not be as dead as we initially thought:

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Still have to deal with the UK, but it's something at least.

 

[Gengar84]

I wouldn’t call Octolings under discussed. They are one of the most obvious picks out there. Splatoon is getting a second rep, and they are front and shoulders the front runner.

Here are a few imo that are underrated/under discussed.

• Pauline
• Ashley
• Tom Nook
• Officer Howard
• Excitebiker
• Alis Landale (Phantasy Star)
• Adol (Ys)
• Resident Evil (Chris, Leon, Jill, take your pick)
• The Traveller (Genshin)
• A league of legends character

As I’ve mentioned here before, I think the Octolings (or at least another Splatoon character) are the number one most likely newcomer for the next Smash. That series caught on so much I’d be shocked if it didn’t get another character.

I’d love to see Akira/Officer Howard as well. Astral Chain was a lot of fun and had a great soundtrack with unique combat. If I had my choice, I’d take Jena Anderson as well since she was such a cool antagonist.

I’ve only played two Ys games (6 and 8) and never completed either of them but Adol would be cool for Smash. I particularly like his CastleVania like design in 9. That’s another series with great music that would fit really well in Smash.

Hey, I try to do my part as far as League of Legends characters go. I don’t really have much interest in playing the main game but Arcane, Forgotten King, and Runeterra are all fun. I like pretty much every character design I’ve seen so I’d be happy with any of them.

I’ll add a few more under discussed characters:

• Anyone from RARE (Killer Instinct, Battletoads, Perfect Dark)
• Anyone from Blizzard (WarCraft, StarCraft, Diablo)
• A Tales of character (I’d love Velvet or Shionne)
• Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear)
• A Borderlands character
• Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
• A Disgaea character (I’d go with Etna)
• A Warriors character (Lu Bu)
• Zero (Mega Man X)
• Bill Rizer (Contra)
• A Chrono character (likely Crono but I’d pick Magus)

Okay, so the ActiBlizz deal may not be as dead as we initially thought:

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Still have to deal with the UK, but it's something at least.

I normally don’t cheer on big company acquisitions like this but Activision/Blizzard is in desperate need of new management. I love the world and characters of WarCraft, StarCraft, and Diablo and I’d be hyped to see any of them in Smash, especially if the company actually addresses its internal issues, which I’m hoping Microsoft will force them to.

 

[Super Devon]

I don’t know if this is worth mentioning here, but the official site for Super Smash Bros. Brawl is currently down.

 

[Sucumbio]

I never got into Splatoon but I suppose they're due for another rep? I dunno about front runner but I guess if not Splatoon what else? What if Mario doesn't actually get anything new?

 

[HyperSomari64]

I don’t know if this is worth mentioning here, but the official site for Super Smash Bros. Brawl is currently down.

Weird, since the Japanese sites of 64 and Melee are still alive and kicking.

 

[Lionfranky]

Who do you guys think is the most undertalked pick for the next Smash Bros character ? In my case i think that it's between shin megami tensei protagonist and Bill rizer from contra

Lara Croft
Jonesy
Aether/Lumine from Genshin Impact
Blizzard characters like Tracer, Diablo
Agumon

 

[Gengar84]

I never got into Splatoon but I suppose they're due for another rep? I dunno about front runner but I guess if not Splatoon what else? What if Mario doesn't actually get anything new?

I’ve never played Splatoon either. I’m not really into strictly competitive online games. These do seem to have fun story modes as well so I wouldn’t mind playing one at some point in the future. I’m just seeing that there’s already been three games in a relatively short time and they’re all selling really well with generally very positive reception. Add that to the fact that we only have one character at the moment, Octolings are an easy semiclone (like Isabelle) and the fact that Xenoblade followed the same pattern of getting a rep two games in a row despite the series selling notably less than Splatoon and it just makes sense. Nothing is ever guaranteed in Smash though so I don’t like to rule out any possibilities.

 

[TCT~Phantom]

I think Splatoon getting a second character is out and out one of the safest bets you can make for something in the next game. The only thing I would say is even safer is a new Pokemon. Even if they do a hard reboot (they won't), Splatoon is just too much of a huge success to be limited to Inkling. Splatoon 3 did crazy numbers. It's at least right now one of Nintendo's biggest franchises.

I do not even like Splatoon much, I never got into it. But Octolings are such a safe bet. At worst, you could make them an Inkling echo or semi clone. They have the same body shape and they can feasibly use all the Splatoon 1 weapons that Inkling uses. I think you can just as easily make them a distinct character. Splatoon 2 and 3 have tons of weapons that you could use to make Octolings feel very distinct from Inkling.

Some other safe bets imo are Officer Howard from Astral Chain, a Xenoblade 3 character (Noah and/or Mio), and Bandana Dee for first parties. I would say Pauline is a bit of a sleeper pick for the next Mario rep as well; I could see us getting both her and a second one such as Waluigi. For third parties, a few of the safer bets to me are Crash Bandicoot, Ryu Hayabusa, Lloyd Irving, and Shadow as an echo fighter.

 

[Gengar84]

I think Splatoon getting a second character is out and out one of the safest bets you can make for something in the next game. The only thing I would say is even safer is a new Pokemon. Even if they do a hard reboot (they won't), Splatoon is just too much of a huge success to be limited to Inkling. Splatoon 3 did crazy numbers. It's at least right now one of Nintendo's biggest franchises.

I do not even like Splatoon much, I never got into it. But Octolings are such a safe bet. At worst, you could make them an Inkling echo or semi clone. They have the same body shape and they can feasibly use all the Splatoon 1 weapons that Inkling uses. I think you can just as easily make them a distinct character. Splatoon 2 and 3 have tons of weapons that you could use to make Octolings feel very distinct from Inkling.

Some other safe bets imo are Officer Howard from Astral Chain, a Xenoblade 3 character (Noah and/or Mio), and Bandana Dee for first parties. I would say Pauline is a bit of a sleeper pick for the next Mario rep as well; I could see us getting both her and a second one such as Waluigi. For third parties, a few of the safer bets to me are Crash Bandicoot, Ryu Hayabusa, Lloyd Irving, and Shadow as an echo fighter.

As much as I’d love to see an Astral Chain character in Smash, I don’t know if I’d go as far as calling it a safe pick. I think the game was relatively niche so most Smash fans would probably be unfamiliar with it. It’s definitely possible that Officer Howard could make it but Astral Chain’s relative obscurity and Officer Howard’s complex gameplay might prove to be hurdles big enough to cause Sakurai to focus on other characters. Of course, if there are plans to make another game, that would help their chances. As is, I’m about 50/50 on their odds.

 

[TCT~Phantom]

As much as I’d love to see an Astral Chain character in Smash, I don’t know if I’d go as far as calling it a safe pick. I think the game was relatively niche so most Smash fans would probably be unfamiliar with it. It’s definitely possible that Officer Howard could make it but Astral Chain’s relative obscurity and Officer Howard’s complex gameplay might prove to be hurdles big enough to cause Sakurai to focus on other characters. Of course, if there are plans to make another game, that would help their chances. As is, I’m about 50/50 on their odds.

I mean, its a pretty safe bet that the next game is going to pull heavily from the Switch era unless its a hard reboot. Brawl pulled overwhelmingly from the GC/GBA era. Smash 4 pulled from the Wii/DS/3DS. Even Smash Ultimate's base roster, as constrained as the newcomers were, made sure to pull a few heavy hitters from the late 3DS/Wii U era. There is no way when they have access to such a successful wide library that they are not going to pull from the Switch's library. As such, I think anyone with a big success story on the Switch, such as Officer Howard, has a leg up already.

Nintendo also purchased the full rights to the Astral Chain IP, showing that they have faith in the IP going forward. The IP being successful on the switch also gave companies like Square the confidence to port some of their games over. I think the game was successful enough to at least be on the radar when it comes to Smash choices. The hurdle of incorporating the legions into combat might be a hurdle, but that also could just as easily be the spark that draws the development team to making the character.

 

[jamesster445]

Who do you guys think is the most undertalked pick for the next Smash Bros character ? In my case i think that it's between shin megami tensei protagonist and Bill rizer from contra

Octoling. Which is funny because they're probably one of if not the most guaranteed picks possible (maybe that's why, it's like Alear, we all just kind of expect it at this point so why bother arguing).

Even if they're brought up its solely as an echo for the Inkling, despite many new weapon types and options being available to them.

 

[SPEN18]

Octoling is definitely talked about a lot in general. Though I could see the argument that they are undertalked as a potential unique rep, as some have dismissed them as definite clone fodder when it's not a guarantee that's how they'd be implemented.

And on Astral Chain real fast: even if you assume most of the newcomer slots are going to Switch-era reps, there's still bigger fish to fry there and it's easy to see it getting squeezed out. Remember we're talking Ice-Climber-level sales for a (so far at least) one-off franchise on a console among the deepest ever in multimil sellers.

 

[Stratos]

Just now a while ago I thought of another character for the sequel to The Super Mario Bros. Movie and he is Wart. Although I still want Wario, Waluigi, Daisy and Rosalina.

I forgot to mention the Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings as well.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

Honestly Splatoon is so huge that I wouldn't be shocked it it have 2 newcomers in the next Smash. I mean, if Fire emblem and Kid icarus of all thing could have 2 newcomers in Smash 4, I think Splatoon could do it too. I could see something like Octoling as a clone or semi-clone and DJ Ocatvio or the Squid sisters as a more unique newcomers.

I never got into Splatoon but I suppose they're due for another rep? I dunno about front runner but I guess if not Splatoon what else? What if Mario doesn't actually get anything new?

Well Mario had no newcomer in Brawl so there's some precedent to it. Personally for the Mario universe I think it could really go either way. Obviously Mario is always going to be a frontrunner for newcomers considering how huge the franchise is, but on the other hand, there wasn't really any new standout Mario characters in the Switch era in the same way that Rosalina and Bowser Jr. was in the Wii era, so I could see the next Smash having no Mario newcomers.

 

[Laniv]

Who do you guys think is the most undertalked pick for the next Smash Bros character ? In my case i think that it's between shin megami tensei protagonist and Bill rizer from contra

Undertalked? Overlooked? I got a few

• Toad (in a sense. hopefully that changes)
• King Boo
• Pauline
• Mona
• Magolor
• Susie
• Meowth
• Tiki
• Tom Nook (but you probably saw that coming from me...)
• Lip
• Tails
• Bomberman (or maybe I'm not looking in the right places...)
• Lara Croft
• Professor Layton

 

[Wunderwaft]

Who do you guys think is the most undertalked pick for the next Smash Bros character ? In my case i think that it's between shin megami tensei protagonist and Bill rizer from contra

I think a third Animal Crossing rep (mostly leaning towards Tom Nook) and Ashley have a decent chance of happening next game. AC sold a ridiculous amount of copies while WW resurged with a million seller entry after a decade long slump. If we're picking franchises that exceeded their respective expectations in the Switch era then I'd give it to these two.

 

[fogbadge]

personally i don't think we talk about toad and chibi nearly enough

 

[Amornal1]

Undertalked? Overlooked? I got a few

• Toad (in a sense. hopefully that changes)
• King Boo
• Pauline
• Mona
• Magolor
• Susie
• Meowth
• Tiki
• Tom Nook (but you probably saw that coming from me...)
• Lip
• Tails
• Bomberman (or maybe I'm not looking in the right places...)
• Lara Croft
• Professor Layton

I think that toad could be our next mario character in Smash Bros alongside paper mario or waluigi.

As I’ve mentioned here before, I think the Octolings (or at least another Splatoon character) are the number one most likely newcomer for the next Smash. That series caught on so much I’d be shocked if it didn’t get another character.

I’d love to see Akira/Officer Howard as well. Astral Chain was a lot of fun and had a great soundtrack with unique combat. If I had my choice, I’d take Jena Anderson as well since she was such a cool antagonist.

I’ve only played two Ys games (6 and 8) and never completed either of them but Adol would be cool for Smash. I particularly like his CastleVania like design in 9. That’s another series with great music that would fit really well in Smash.

Hey, I try to do my part as far as League of Legends characters go. I don’t really have much interest in playing the main game but Arcane, Forgotten King, and Runeterra are all fun. I like pretty much every character design I’ve seen so I’d be happy with any of them.

I’ll add a few more under discussed characters:

• Anyone from RARE (Killer Instinct, Battletoads, Perfect Dark)
• Anyone from Blizzard (WarCraft, StarCraft, Diablo)
• A Tales of character (I’d love Velvet or Shionne)
• Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear)
• A Borderlands character
• Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
• A Disgaea character (I’d go with Etna)
• A Warriors character (Lu Bu)
• Zero (Mega Man X)
• Bill Rizer (Contra)
• A Chrono character (likely Crono but I’d pick Magus)

I normally don’t cheer on big company acquisitions like this but Activision/Blizzard is in desperate need of new management. I love the world and characters of WarCraft, StarCraft, and Diablo and I’d be hyped to see any of them in Smash, especially if the company actually addresses its internal issues, which I’m hoping Microsoft will force them to.

I think that, at least, lloyd irving is a very, very likely pick for the next Smash Bros

 

[Among Waddle Dees]

Who do you guys think is the most undertalked pick for the next Smash Bros character ? In my case i think that it's between shin megami tensei protagonist and Bill rizer from contra

Some people are saying Magolor.

IMO, anyone from Kirby who isn't Bandana Dee gets virtually no attention. I don't hear the likes of Gooey, Adeleine, Daroach, or even entirely new characters compete anymore. It's kind of a problem to me, because it's built on predetermined assumptions, usually of two extremes, that limit the immediate options. Which is not why I'm here at all.

Yes, I am aware that Kirby doesn't use much of its non-featured characters, but I cannot understand how that justifies the speculative restrictions. I must have mentioned this before, but I'll do it again: Mario often does the same thing with its cast, yet Toad is not the usual choice for a new Mario character despite having high prominence overall.

...although in particular, Magolor does indeed seem a tad overlooked. I will admit, he strikes me as much likelier than his fellow castings, potentially including Bandana Dee.

 

[Gengar84]

Some people are saying Magolor.

IMO, anyone from Kirby who isn't Bandana Dee gets virtually no attention. I don't hear the likes of Gooey, Adeleine, Daroach, or even entirely new characters compete anymore. It's kind of a problem to me, because it's built on predetermined assumptions, usually of two extremes, that limit the immediate options. Which is not why I'm here at all.

Yes, I am aware that Kirby doesn't use much of its non-featured characters, but I cannot understand how that justifies the speculative restrictions. I must have mentioned this before, but I'll do it again: Mario often does the same thing with its cast, yet Toad is not the usual choice for a new Mario character despite having high prominence overall.

...although in particular, Magolor does indeed seem a tad overlooked. I will admit, he strikes me as much likelier than his fellow castings, potentially including Bandana Dee.

Yeah, I can definitely see Magolor as a possibility with his recent return to relevancy. I’ve always loved the idea of playable mooks in Smash like Piranha Plant. A lot of basic enemies have really fun designs that could make for fun Smash characters. Bugzzy would be my long shot dream pick if I got to choose another Kirby character. I’ve always really liked it’s design and it is really fun to play as in the Kirby games.

 

[BirkBoy]

So I guess we know what Ganondorf will look like in Smash 6, right?

I don't at all think this is a confirmation of anything Smash related. However Ganon's TotK design is one of my favorite designs his had in the entire Zelda franchise so I would absolutely love to see it in Smash 6.

 

[Gengar84]

I don't at all think this is a confirmation of anything Smash related. However Ganon's TotK design is one of my favorite designs his had in the entire Zelda franchise so I would absolutely love to see it in Smash 6.

I think mine is his Ultimate design followed by Hyrule Warriors but his TotK design is cool too. I’d love it if the Zelda characters got all of their different portrayals as alt outfits.

 

[BirkBoy]

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For me:

• Waluigi
• Bandana Waddle Dee
• Dr. Eggman
• Crash Bandicoot
• Estelle Bright

For me, I'd have to go with:
Paper Mario
Crash Bandicoot
Frisk (Undertale)
Bandana Waddle Dee
Knuckles The Echidna

I think mine is his Ultimate design followed by Hyrule Warriors but his TotK design is cool too. I’d love it if the Zelda characters got all of their different portrayals as alt outfits.

Agreed.

Do y'all think you'll be able to jump in da next Smash Bro Brothers

i sure hope so

King K. Rool in Ultimate was the first time a character truly felt like they clicked with me, I’m hoping I can continue to main him in any future games. It will be fun to look back on the early pages of this thread, and see what will come out of a new Smash game in several years from now.

I wonder what they'll actually name the next Smash, since they seem to be done with the "synonym for fight" thing they were doing in Melee and Brawl.

I like the idea of Super Smash Bros. Smackdown

 

[HyperSomari64]

• Small Brain: Super Smash Bros. Unleashed
• Galactic Brain: Super Smash Bros. Generations
• Universal Brain: Super Smash Bros. Colors
• Multiversal Brain: Super Smash Bros. (2006)
• Omniversal Brain: Super Smash Bros. 3D Blast

 

[Perkilator]

i sure hope so

Excuse me, double-posting is against the rules.

 

[Wonder Smash]

Some people are saying Magolor.

IMO, anyone from Kirby who isn't Bandana Dee gets virtually no attention. I don't hear the likes of Gooey, Adeleine, Daroach, or even entirely new characters compete anymore. It's kind of a problem to me, because it's built on predetermined assumptions, usually of two extremes, that limit the immediate options. Which is not why I'm here at all.

Yes, I am aware that Kirby doesn't use much of its non-featured characters, but I cannot understand how that justifies the speculative restrictions. I must have mentioned this before, but I'll do it again: Mario often does the same thing with its cast, yet Toad is not the usual choice for a new Mario character despite having high prominence overall.

...although in particular, Magolor does indeed seem a tad overlooked. I will admit, he strikes me as much likelier than his fellow castings, potentially including Bandana Dee.

Heck, I'm surprised there aren't any talks about Lololo and Lalala, or that it hasn't led to talks about Lolo and Lala from Eggerland.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

Up until Return to Dreamland Deluxe, I would have been skeptical of Magalor, but the prominence he had in that and the general attempt to build upon the characteristics they gave him in Star Allies has me thinking he might have the best chance of a new Kirby character outside BWD. Doubly so if the vendor role they've set up for him in Clash Deluxe and the campaign in RtDL port makes him recurring.

 

[Perkilator]

I know this is a pretty tired discussion, but heck with it. If they were to do a Smash Ultimate Deluxe and they had 11 newcomers to reach 100 fighters, who would you guys pick? Keep in mind, I’m counting Fighters #1-#82 plus the seven Echo Fighters, totalling up to about 89 fighters. As for my 11 newcomers:

• #83. Waluigi
• #84. Raven Beak
• #85. Bandana Waddle Dee
• #86. Noah
• #87. Mio
• #88. Ring Fit Trainee
• #89. Dr. Eggman
• #90. 2B
• #36ε. Dixie Kong
• #40ε. Alph
• #64ε. Octoling

 

[RodNutTakin]

I know this is a pretty tired discussion, but heck with it. If they were to do a Smash Ultimate Deluxe and they had 11 newcomers to reach 100 fighters, who would you guys pick? Keep in mind, I’m counting Fighters #1-#82 plus the seven Echo Fighters, totalling up to about 89 fighters. As for my 11 newcomers:

• #83. Waluigi
• #84. Raven Beak
• #85. Bandana Waddle Dee
• #86. Noah
• #87. Mio
• #88. Ring Fit Trainee
• #89. Dr. Eggman
• #90. 2B
• #36ε. Dixie Kong
• #40ε. Alph
• #64ε. Octoling

Can't remember if I ever posted my Ultimate DX roster, but I'll partially cite from it anyways:

• #83. Toadette
• #84. Iron Valiant
• #85. Conductor (Rhythm Heaven)
• #86. Raven Beak
• #87. Mio
• #88. Diskun
• #89. Zero
• #90. Arle Nadja
• #02ε. Funky Kong
• #64ε. Octoling
• #74ε. Rock Howard

 

[fogbadge]

I know this is a pretty tired discussion, but heck with it. If they were to do a Smash Ultimate Deluxe and they had 11 newcomers to reach 100 fighters, who would you guys pick? Keep in mind, I’m counting Fighters #1-#82 plus the seven Echo Fighters, totalling up to about 89 fighters. As for my 11 newcomers:

• #83. Waluigi
• #84. Raven Beak
• #85. Bandana Waddle Dee
• #86. Noah
• #87. Mio
• #88. Ring Fit Trainee
• #89. Dr. Eggman
• #90. 2B
• #36ε. Dixie Kong
• #40ε. Alph
• #64ε. Octoling

well probably

#83: Toad
#83e: Toadette
#84: Chibi-robo
#85: Tails
#86: Bandana Dee
#64e: Octoling
#87: Impa
#88: Riku
#89: Layton
#90: Grunty
#9e: Gooigi