Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

Perkilator · Mar 20, 2023

Schnee117 said:
Like, it'd absolutely get way more than just Y'shtola and Zenos spirits plus a single song.
It's Square's biggest money maker.

I didn’t want to go too crazy with any one game I was representing and I prioritized the characters who were playable in Dissidia NT (mostly), but I understand they’d use more than what I have for XIV.

CapitaineCrash · Mar 20, 2023

What if they add Clives from Final fantasy 16? Not sure how likely it is (would probably depends of the timing of Smash 6 development but also FF16 reception overall), but he looks like a very cool characters and everything showed so far for FF16 looked very promising.

AlphaSSB said:
I have been summoned.

Fox will remain a permanent member of the Smash roster. Even if the next game has a rebooted roster the same size as Smash 64's, Fox would be a part of that roster. No doubt. If the next game has a roster between Brawl's and Smash 4's size (40-50 fighters), I can see at least one of Falco or Wolf staying, if not both. Falco has been in more Smash and Star Fox games than Wolf, whereas Wolf is a more unique fighter and has "evidence" of fan-demand thanks to the Ballot.

If Star Fox remains in its current state, the only way I see it getting a 4th character would be if Ultimate gets ported onto the next console, and they start pulling from Assist Trophies to turn into new fighters since they already have a lot of work done on them. Krystal obviously did well enough on the Ballot to warrant getting in as an AT, and honestly she's been treated very well for an AT in Ultimate. I can genuinely see her getting in under those circumstances.

If Star Fox finally sees a Fire Emblem: Awakening or Metroid Dread-like revival, I can easily see one new fighter. Krystal's the obvious front-runner, but if she happens to be omitted from the next game again, I wouldn't discount Slippy's chances. He did star in his own spin-off, Star Fox Guard after all. Plus his body type is close enough to Peppy's you could bring him in too as a clone like a two-for-one deal and get the entire original Star Fox team.

And if anyone is interested, I've made movesets for Krystal and Slippy/Peppy. Krystal's takes heavy inspiration from Super Smash Flash 2 (Where her moveset is nearly flawless) and Slippy/Peppy's is partially inspired by the Smash 64 Remix mod. You can find Google Doc links to Krystal's here and Slippy/Peppy's here.

As far as stages go, Smash likes to stick with spacecraft, so I'm unsure of them doing something different. If Krystal got it, something from Sauria would be nice to see. Again, SSF2's Krazoa Palace stage is a ton of fun, though not competitively viable. More likely than anything the next stage would take place in an area from the next game, whatever locations it may have. Still disappointed Orbital Gate Assault never returned, but my theory is that is wouldn't cooperate with the Stage Morph mechanic.

Music-wise Star Fox is very under-represented. Star Fox Zero getting only three tracks is shocking, Adventures having nothing is criminal, and with Star Fox 2 having seen an official release it should get some love too. And that's not counting the other games with tons of fitting tracks. I could make a huge list, but not to overwhelm, I'll share two from the three games I mentioned. From Adventures: LightFoot Test of Strength and Boss Drakor; From Zero: Titania and Sector Beta; And from SF2: Eladard and of course Surprise Attack.

In the end, Star Fox is in a decent spot as far as reputation goes given its current state. There is so much more it can offer to Smash, but its got to compete with other, unfortunately more successful series to get any more love. Star Fox as a series has so much untapped potential, and I still pray that one day Star Fox will get its "Awakening" or "Dread" moment and make a huge comeback.

I agree with most of what you've said, but I don't really see Krystal as that likely at this point. I mean, the ballot will probably be 10 year old by the time the next Smash release (if not more), I doubt they'll going to take it into account that seriously, and I'm sure they'll put higher priority into characters that got games after the ballot.

fogbadge · Mar 20, 2023

its nice to know 10 is loved outside my rose tinted glasses. ~~i was wrong about 12 so i might have been here~~

Gengar84 · Mar 20, 2023

FFIX is my favorite Final Fantasy game and probably my favorite game in general but FFX isn’t far behind. FFX is actually the game that got me really interested in the JRPG genre in the first place and I went backwards from there to play the others. I’d love to see either game represented in Smash in some way.

Hadokeyblade · Mar 20, 2023

FFX is something i have more fun thinking about than actually playing.

I think it's got a good story and characters but the game itself just felt too boring for me.

Guynamednelson · Mar 20, 2023

Speed Weed said:
I think the ideal next option is Fat Chocobo

Only Chaos would think the ideal next option isn't Jack Garland. Are you Chaos?

Laniv · Mar 20, 2023

I say Chocobo & Moogle for Smash 6

HyperSomari64 · Mar 20, 2023

Hey speculators, which of this "never-happening" things is the one that comes first?

1. Goku (or any non-video game character) in a future Smash Brothers
2. Sonic in Project X Zone 3
3. Senran Kagura 7, now being a Switch exclusive.

Gengar84 · Mar 20, 2023

CapitaineCrash said:
What if they add Clives from Final fantasy 16? Not sure how likely it is (would probably depends of the timing of Smash 6 development but also FF16 reception overall), but he looks like a very cool characters and everything showed so far for FF16 looked very promising.

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I agree with most of what you've said, but I don't really see Krystal as that likely at this point. I mean, the ballot will probably be 10 year old by the time the next Smash release (if not more), I doubt they'll going to take it into account that seriously, and I'm sure they'll put higher priority into characters that got games after the ballot.

He does look cool but I have mixed feelings about the series these days. I’d still gladly take him due to his design and the fact that I used to really love the series but I’d be happier to see someone from IX or X personally.

That and he’s kind of stealing his whole look from Velvet Crowe from Tales of Berseria, who I’d rather see.

Opossum · Mar 20, 2023

Will said:
how would you make sans work while being faithful to the fact that he dies to literally anything? is that even possible?

As others have said, making him the lightest fighter in the game would go a long way toward representing this. In addition, the fact that he'd be much larger than the likes of Pichu and Jigglypuff also helps this: he's even lighter than they are, but far easier to hit (I mean, look at how big his head is, for example). Those factors combined decrease his survivability by quite a lot.

At that point, you give him fittingly powerful moves, and if he's still too strong, you can give him a linear and exploitable recovery move as needed.

Wonder Smash · Mar 20, 2023

HyperSomari64 said:
Hey speculators, which of this "never-happening" things is the one that comes first?

1. Goku (or any non-video game character) in a future Smash Brothers
2. Sonic in Project X Zone 3
3. Senran Kagura 7, now being a Switch exclusive.

I say number 2.

DarthEnderX · Mar 20, 2023

Swamp Sensei said:
Your reaction if Final Fantasy gets another game represented... and its Lightning and Final Fantasy XIII?

Speed Weed said:
I think the ideal next option is Fat Chocobo

Gilgamesh!

fogbadge · Mar 20, 2023

Gengar84 said:
FFIX is my favorite Final Fantasy game and probably my favorite game in general but FFX isn’t far behind. FFX is actually the game that got me really interested in the JRPG genre in the first place and I went backwards from there to play the others. I’d love to see either game represented in Smash in some way.

the vast majority of them would be cool as well

TCT~Phantom · Mar 20, 2023

Swamp Sensei said:
Your reaction if Final Fantasy gets another game represented... and its Lightning and Final Fantasy XIII?

I would wonder how Square Enix went back in time to 2011.

All jokes aside, I think out of our potential third FF rep, Lightening is pretty low on the totem poll. She does not have the SNES era highlights that Sakurai even once considered of Terra, the lasting impact of Tidus or Noctus, or the fan favorite angle that IX could pull. Heck, at least with Squall you could pull Nomura playing favorites. At the end of the day, I think another FF character is a reasonable bet with how Square promotes its IPs in Smash. At the same time, I think there is no obvious front runner for another unique FF character.

What I will say though is that Zack is a slam dunk for an echo fighter. Crisis Core is back in the public spotlight and with how FFVII Remake ends, its clear Zack's story is still not over.

LiveStudioAudience · Mar 20, 2023

Honestly given how beloved Vivi is and that he could rep the many black mages in the series history? He might have decent shot himself.

Sucumbio · Mar 20, 2023

LiveStudioAudience said:
Honestly given how beloved Vivi is and that he could rep the many black mages in the series history? He might have decent shot himself.

As much as I want Terra or Kefka I must agree Black Mage / Vivi is probably even more "iconic" with his design appearing in more than one main title, being in the original game, having a massively impressive story in 9, etc.

fogbadge · Mar 20, 2023

Thinking about it, quina from 9 could in theory borrow one of Kirbys specials

CapitaineCrash · Mar 20, 2023

TCT~Phantom said:
I would wonder how Square Enix went back in time to 2011.

All jokes aside, I think out of our potential third FF rep, Lightening is pretty low on the totem poll. She does not have the SNES era highlights that Sakurai even once considered of Terra, the lasting impact of Tidus or Noctus, or the fan favorite angle that IX could pull. Heck, at least with Squall you could pull Nomura playing favorites. At the end of the day, I think another FF character is a reasonable bet with how Square promotes its IPs in Smash. At the same time, I think there is no obvious front runner for another unique FF character.

What I will say though is that Zack is a slam dunk for an echo fighter. Crisis Core is back in the public spotlight and with how FFVII Remake ends, its clear Zack's story is still not over.

Man as much as Zack would make sense and as much as I love FF7, seeing a third rep from this game instead of literally anything else would be a bit disappointing imo.

Verde Coeden Scalesworth · Mar 20, 2023

TCT~Phantom said:
I would wonder how Square Enix went back in time to 2011.

All jokes aside, I think out of our potential third FF rep, Lightening is pretty low on the totem poll. She does not have the SNES era highlights that Sakurai even once considered of Terra, the lasting impact of Tidus or Noctus, or the fan favorite angle that IX could pull. Heck, at least with Squall you could pull Nomura playing favorites. At the end of the day, I think another FF character is a reasonable bet with how Square promotes its IPs in Smash. At the same time, I think there is no obvious front runner for another unique FF character.

What I will say though is that Zack is a slam dunk for an echo fighter. Crisis Core is back in the public spotlight and with how FFVII Remake ends, its clear Zack's story is still not over.

I'm an oddball who would've been okay with Lightning in PSASBR, if only so we get FF representation proper. It's no Cloud, but she's still a great choice, imo.

And yes, having no Cloud sucks too.

Anyway, if we were somehow able to get Lightning in Smash, all I can say is "At least we have proper representation outside of VII.

"

Sucumbio · Mar 20, 2023

I'm all for having Lightning, and I would like to think they'd implement paradigms somehow.

SPEN18 · Mar 20, 2023

Is it too late to talk about Star Fox and its future in Smash?

Fox will stay, of course. However, given the currently precarious position of Star Fox as a brand, I don't think that we'll see both Falco and Wolf. Both are distinct enough from Fox and each other that they still take a good bulk of work, so in the end I don't think it will be worth it for them to do all that is necessary to keep all three when the end result is relatively similar movesets for a declining series. Plus three iterations of the same set is an archaic way of hitting multiple reps for a middle-tier franchise. As for which of Falco and Wolf would be kept in a one-or-the-other scenario, it's pretty much a tossup; we saw Falco get prioritized well over Wolf in 4, but this was before Wolf became quite possibly the top veteran on the Ballot. Falco's popularity has also declined since his N64/GCN heyday. As for Krystal or another unique SF rep, it's probably not happening in the current state of things, but see below.

Despite the relatively bleak outlook above, things could change for this series quite rapidly as there is still time for it to cash in on the famously massive Switch install base. A new game that taps into some of the series' raw potential for groundbreaking gameplay while continuing to take advantage of the brand's recognizability could put SF on the shortlist for a unique newcomer, even as a second-half Switch release. If said new game were to really push the plot forward, then it is likely with her existing popularity and role in Command that Krystal would become very relevant again, and hence a top pick for an SF Smash slot.

Though note that even in the optimistic scenario of SF coming back and garnering a new unique rep, I could still see us lose either Falco or Wolf. The presence of a new rep would probably push a same-series clone rep down the priority list.

Wonder Smash · Mar 20, 2023

SPEN18 said:
Is it too late to talk about Star Fox and its future in Smash?

Fox will stay, of course. However, given the currently precarious position of Star Fox as a brand, I don't think that we'll see both Falco and Wolf. Both are distinct enough from Fox and each other that they still take a good bulk of work, so in the end I don't think it will be worth it for them to do all that is necessary to keep all three when the end result is relatively similar movesets for a declining series. Plus three iterations of the same set is an archaic way of hitting multiple reps for a middle-tier franchise. As for which of Falco and Wolf would be kept in a one-or-the-other scenario, it's pretty much a tossup; we saw Falco get prioritized well over Wolf in 4, but this was before Wolf became quite possibly the top veteran on the Ballot. Falco's popularity has also declined since his N64/GCN heyday. As for Krystal or another unique SF rep, it's probably not happening in the current state of things, but see below.

Despite the relatively bleak outlook above, things could change for this series quite rapidly as there is still time for it to cash in on the famously massive Switch install base. A new game that taps into some of the series' raw potential for groundbreaking gameplay while continuing to take advantage of the brand's recognizability could put SF on the shortlist for a unique newcomer, even as a second-half Switch release. If said new game were to really push the plot forward, then it is likely with her existing popularity and role in Command that Krystal would become very relevant again, and hence a top pick for an SF Smash slot.

Though note that even in the optimistic scenario of SF coming back and garnering a new unique rep, I could still see us lose either Falco or Wolf. The presence of a new rep would probably push a same-series clone rep down the priority list.

I think they should keep both Falco and Wolf. I see no need to decrease the number of reps again, especially if they're unique enough from each other.

Aligo · Mar 20, 2023

If people are going on about potential cuts to smash, remember that previous games have had relatively few cuts. And those that were cut had one or more of the following issues.

Caused technical issues for the software (all transformers for 3ds, should no longer be an issue for future consoles)

Lost licence deal (only applies to third parties, and smash can retain them more easily due to a proven track record)

Low character popularity, doubly so if the next game introduces a similar ish character (yl Mewtwo, Roy in brawl Dr mario also in brawl) Very popular characters are consistently kept, hence sheik being retained post brawl. Expect very popular but smaller first party reps like wolf, plautena or aegis to stay for this reason).

For the new smash, expect failed third party contracts to be dropped first, followed by characters with low overall popularity, especially in larger series (I have doubts for characters like Dr mario, plant and pichu returning if cuts need to be made).

Also if resources need to be spared, there are multiple unpopular stages that can be left behind. No one will protest at the loss of one of the grassy mario stages, 75m or PAC-land.

SPEN18 · Mar 20, 2023

Aligo said:
If people are going on about potential cuts to smash, remember that previous games have had relatively few cuts. And those that were cut had one or more of the following issues.

Caused technical issues for the software (all transformers for 3ds, should no longer be an issue for future consoles)

Lost licence deal (only applies to third parties, and smash can retain them more easily due to a proven track record)

Low character popularity, doubly so if the next game introduces a similar ish character (yl Mewtwo, Roy in brawl Dr mario also in brawl) Very popular characters are consistently kept, hence sheik being retained post brawl. Expect very popular but smaller first party reps like wolf, plautena or aegis to stay for this reason).

For the new smash, expect failed third party contracts to be dropped first, followed by characters with low overall popularity, especially in larger series (I have doubts for characters like Dr mario, plant and pichu returning if cuts need to be made).

Also if resources need to be spared, there are multiple unpopular stages that can be left behind. No one will protest at the loss of one of the grassy mario stages, 75m or PAC-land.

The previous games had fewer cuts, yes, but Ult has over 20 more characters than 4; no other Smash transition has dealt with such a large and complex cast to potentially retain. Not to mention how many of Ult's reps are 3rd party who could have licensing issues or previously cut (or almost cut) characters who would be low priority in a more normal, non-EiH scenario. The last time a ground-up game was made, they even failed to retain Brawl's roster of <40. Mewtwo in particular was a highly popular and highly unique character that still got cut, even back in the Melee-Brawl transition when there were not that many unique vets to retain.

I am also in favor of cleaning up the Stage representation, which has become quite bloated. There are a lot of great Stages that I'd like to see retained, but bringing back all or close to all of them would definitely not be my priority. Even still, cutting Stages is nothing compared to cutting fighters in terms of the amount of effort that is saved; ditching Pac-Land is not going to help keep characters.

Aligo · Mar 20, 2023

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SPEN18 said:
The previous games had fewer cuts, yes, but Ult has over 20 more characters than 4; no other Smash transition has dealt with such a large and complex cast to potentially retain. Not to mention how many of Ult's reps are 3rd party who could have licensing issues or previously cut (or almost cut) characters who would be low priority in a more normal, non-EiH scenario. The last time a ground-up game was made, they even failed to retain Brawl's roster of <40. Mewtwo in particular was a highly popular and highly unique character that still got cut, even back in the Melee-Brawl transition when there were not that many unique vets to retain.

I am also in favor of cleaning up the Stage representation, which has become quite bloated. There are a lot of great Stages that I'd like to see retained, but bringing back all or close to all of them would definitely not be my priority. Even still, cutting Stages is nothing compared to cutting fighters in terms of the amount of effort that is saved; ditching Pac-Land is not going to help keep characters.

That may be so, if they go for a reboot using a new engine (personally I think they will go the same route as mario kart, but there is still the possibility) a lot more characters will be cut.

I still doubt that any popular characters will be cut sans failed third party negotiations and maybe Steve (you probably could make two or three new fire emblem characters in the time it took for them to code the blocks and terrains, and even then it ended up quite buggy.)

By popular I mean 'popular to play in smash' Mewtwo may have general popularity, but he was not played very much in melee. Other characters like falco stayed despite having less general popularity because people actually played them (didn't help that the average casual player may not even unlock Mewtwo).

SPEN18 · Mar 20, 2023

Aligo said:
I still doubt that any popular characters will be cut sans failed third party negotiations and maybe Steve (you probably could make two or three new fire emblem characters in the time it took for them to code the blocks and terrains, and even then it ended up quite buggy.)

By popular I mean 'popular to play in smash' Mewtwo may have general popularity, but he was not played very much in melee. Other characters like falco stayed despite having less general popularity because people actually played them (didn't help that the average casual player may not even unlock Mewtwo).

What data or evidence are you going off of when it comes to who got played the most by casual (i.e. not hardcore) fans in Melee? I think Falco got retained in Brawl because he was cloneable and, at the time, a more clear choice over Wolf; being the #2 priority for SF, which was in better shape when Brawl's roster was decided, made him safe. Mewtwo could be unlocked in Melee simply by playing VS mode, so I don't know how the unlock conditions would have had a noticeable effect on his play popularity.

I'm sure they'll look into the online usage stats for Ult, but I doubt there will be material correlations between those and who gets retained. They will likely use such data as an aid in rebalancing and/or reworking certain movesets, and they know that play popularity depends more on the implementation of a particular moveset within the context of a particular iteration of the Smash engine and its meta, not so much on characters' popularity, marketability, and legacy at large.

CapitaineCrash · Mar 20, 2023

SPEN18 said:
Though note that even in the optimistic scenario of SF coming back and garnering a new unique rep, I could still see us lose either Falco or Wolf. The presence of a new rep would probably push a same-series clone rep down the priority list.

Imo this makes no sense at all. If Star fox is popular enough to get Krystal, why would it lose Falco or Wolf? I mean, why cut a characters who already have a moveset to add another one from that same franchise who is less popular? Cutting Falco for Krystal would be like cutting Luigi for Waluigi or something, it just make no sense. If Star fox do make a big comeback, we either going to have the same content or it's going to have 4 characters.

SPEN18 said:
The previous games had fewer cuts, yes, but Ult has over 20 more characters than 4; no other Smash transition has dealt with such a large and complex cast to potentially retain. Not to mention how many of Ult's reps are 3rd party who could have licensing issues or previously cut (or almost cut) characters who would be low priority in a more normal, non-EiH scenario. The last time a ground-up game was made, they even failed to retain Brawl's roster of <40. Mewtwo in particular was a highly popular and highly unique character that still got cut, even back in the Melee-Brawl transition when there were not that many unique vets to retain.

I am also in favor of cleaning up the Stage representation, which has become quite bloated. There are a lot of great Stages that I'd like to see retained, but bringing back all or close to all of them would definitely not be my priority. Even still, cutting Stages is nothing compared to cutting fighters in terms of the amount of effort that is saved; ditching Pac-Land is not going to help keep characters.

Well if anything according to Brawl files Mewtwo was planned to be in the game (with Roy and Dr. Mario).

Totally agree on your points on stages tho. Imo we really need a big stages cleanup. I'll take a game with only like 50 stages but most being new instead of having 120 stages including the 115 from Ultimate.

osby · Mar 20, 2023

Swamp Sensei said:
Your reaction if Final Fantasy gets another game represented... and its Lightning and Final Fantasy XIII?

I'd question why but it's a win in my books. FFXIII had great music and story and the gameplay elements that Lightning can bring would make her a pretty interesting stance change fighter. Plus, she's a cool character in general. Imagine her Final Smash being her Gestalt Mode.

RealLuigisWearPink · Mar 20, 2023

Still believe in Terra supremacy.

SPEN18 · Mar 20, 2023

CapitaineCrash said:
Imo this makes no sense at all. If Star fox is popular enough to get Krystal, why would it lose Falco or Wolf? I mean, why cut a characters who already have a moveset to add another one from that same franchise who is less popular? Cutting Falco for Krystal would be like cutting Luigi for Waluigi or something, it just make no sense. If Star fox do make a big comeback, we either going to have the same content or it's going to have 4 characters.

Newcomers from a given franchise can be given greater priority than same-franchise veterans, even if said veterans are clones. This happened with Ike and Roy. Of course, newcomers from existing franchises are not always (and usually aren't) the top priority from their franchise; as you say, Waluigi would never be given higher priority than Luigi. But newcomers can outrank some of the vets within their franchise. In the first example, Ike could very well have been lower priority than one vet, Marth, but higher priority than another, Roy.

Characters like Falco and Wolf will basically always be on the block because they're veteran clones. It's not directly cutting Falco for Krystal in a one-for-one swap; it's simply that Krystal, if in the initial project plan, would probably get higher priority than the existing clones, who would probably be low priority regardless of Krystal getting in or not. Krystal could make the existing clones feel less necessary to the devs given that high-priority Krystal means SF is guaranteed two unique reps already, especially in the case that it comes down to choosing an SF clone over one from another franchise; but such effects would likely be secondary considerations or even borderline subconscious, not necessarily part of a premeditated scheme to keep to a quota of a certain number of SF reps.

Also, remember that we're talking about a hypothetical scenario in which Krystal stars in a new SF game with a plot-important role, leading her to new heights of popularity. In which case it would be adding a more popular and relevant, not less popular and relevant, same-franchise character. More like adding Ike and giving Roy low enough priority to be cut, not like adding Waluigi and cutting Luigi.

Lionfranky · Mar 21, 2023

Aligo said:
If people are going on about potential cuts to smash, remember that previous games have had relatively few cuts. And those that were cut had one or more of the following issues.

Caused technical issues for the software (all transformers for 3ds, should no longer be an issue for future consoles)

Lost licence deal (only applies to third parties, and smash can retain them more easily due to a proven track record)

Low character popularity, doubly so if the next game introduces a similar ish character (yl Mewtwo, Roy in brawl Dr mario also in brawl) Very popular characters are consistently kept, hence sheik being retained post brawl. Expect very popular but smaller first party reps like wolf, plautena or aegis to stay for this reason).

For the new smash, expect failed third party contracts to be dropped first, followed by characters with low overall popularity, especially in larger series (I have doubts for characters like Dr mario, plant and pichu returning if cuts need to be made).

Also if resources need to be spared, there are multiple unpopular stages that can be left behind. No one will protest at the loss of one of the grassy mario stages, 75m or PAC-land.

I think it will ultimately comes down to development resource and time.

Konami was dealing with fallout of Kojima's departure. Snake was the only third party cut.

TCT~Phantom · Mar 21, 2023

Why am I not surprised that some people still are talking about cuts for the third time this week already? Can we literally go one day without it?

How about we discuss something actually interesting, like music. What are some tracks you think are sadly missing from Ultimate? What songs would you like in the next Smash?

Here are a few of mine.

Paper Mario 64 OST - King of The Koopas

Complete PlayList: https://goo.gl/oF6KKiDeveloper(s) Intelligent SystemsPublisher(s) NintendoDirector(s) Ryota Kawade To****aka Murama...

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Introducing Wario Deluxe (Final Stage) ~ Complete Version - WarioWare Gold Soundtrack

Extra Section at 2:08If you enjoy what I do, please consider buying me a kofi... i need food and life isn't cheap :Phttps://ko-fi.com/kiup12

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Final Battle Against Ganon - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

Music: Final Battle Against GanonPlaylist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAs1Kha_R9dLUSxTSb4wLHen4MAQDRIZ_Game: The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time...

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Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze Soundtrack - Big Top Bop [World 1 Boss]

Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (WiiU) (Nintendo)Song: Big Top Bop (World:1 Boss)Composer: David Wise, Kenji YamamotoYear: 2014Donkey Kong and Character...

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Solaris Phase 2 - Sonic the Hedgehog [OST]

Game: Sonic the Hedgehog (2006)Music: Solaris Phase 2

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068 - Dialga's Fight to the Finish! - (Pokémon Mystery Dungeon - Explorers of Sky)

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Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness - Miror B Battle Theme (Best Quality)

Ill upload miror b's theme if enough people ask for it

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Sonic Colors "Final Boss Phase 2 ~ Reach for the Stars (Orchestra Version)" Music

Final Boss Phase 2 of Sonic Colors music. Full Sonic Colors OST playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB723FA23FFF047FFI'm doing requests for soni...

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ビッグブリッヂの死闘

Provided to YouTube by NexTone Inc.ビッグブリッヂの死闘 · Nobuo Uematsu · Nobuo Uematsu · Nobuo UematsuFINAL FANTASY V Original SoundtrackReleased on: 1992-12-07Auto-g...

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シーモアバトル

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Take Over

Provided to YouTube by NexTone Inc.Take Over · Lyn · Lotus Juice · アトラスサウンドチーム · アトラスサウンドチーム『ペルソナ５　ザ・ロイヤル』オリジナル・サウンドトラックReleased on: 2022-02-22Auto-generate...

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I believe

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Persona 5 - Life Will Change Lyrics

Persona 5 is good.#Persona5 #Persona5TheRoyal

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Fate of the Unknown

Provided to YouTube by Universal Music GroupFate of the Unknown · Yoko ShimomuraKINGDOM HEARTS -HD 2.5 ReMIX-℗ 2007 Walt Disney RecordsReleased on: 2023-02-0...

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Rage Awakened

Provided to YouTube by Universal Music GroupRage Awakened · Yoko ShimomuraKINGDOM HEARTS -HD 2.5 ReMIX-℗ 2014 Walt Disney RecordsReleased on: 2023-02-08Compo...

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Darkness of the Unknown

Provided to YouTube by Universal Music GroupDarkness of the Unknown · Yoko ShimomuraKINGDOM HEARTS -HD 2.5 ReMIX-℗ 2014 Walt Disney RecordsReleased on: 2023-...

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Mega Man Zero Collection OST - T3-37: Cannon Ball (Vs. Omega Zero - Final Battle, Phase 3)

Track 37of Mega Man Zero Collection's Soundtrack (Mega Man Zero 3)

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fogbadge · Mar 21, 2023

TCT~Phantom said:
Why am I not surprised that some people still harp on cuts discussion for the third time this week already? Can we literally go one day without it?

How about we discuss something actually interesting, like music. What are some tracks you think are sadly missing from Ultimate? What songs would you like in the next Smash?

how about you just let people discuss what they want to discuss instead of trying to block a conversation topic just cause you don't like it?

Aligo · Mar 21, 2023

The original version of counterattack (the remix is WEAK) and any version of drifting soul.

Some more of the Splatoon single player tracks, actually, change the inkling victory theme to not jazz.

Gengar84 · Mar 21, 2023

Here’s a few songs I’d love to hear in the next Smash. I’ll just limit it to franchises already represented with a playable character for now: