Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

[DarthEnderX]

I think they should, though. It's pretty much shown that the Mach Kick is Kunio's signature attack while the Mach Punch is Riki's.

Sure, obviously an Echo would be ideal. But I don't know if those would count against the 18 limit. If so, I'd rather have other characters than a Kunio echo. But I'd still like Riki as an alt.

 

[Oracle Link]

BTW Im gonna show you my Newest Project Super Smash Bros Desert its a Multi part Video Project!
Stay Tuned!

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Trying to play this is hard because we've got all th important Nintendo characters in the series already

No we don’t, we still don’t have Toad.

 

[Gengar84]

No we don’t, we still don’t have Toad.

Yeah, I think the only thing holding Toad back is his inclusion in Peach’s moveset. He absolutely deserves to be a part of Smash in terms of importance and history.

 

[fogbadge]

Yeah, I think the only thing holding Toad back is his inclusion in Peach’s moveset. He absolutely deserves to be a part of Smash in terms of importance and history.

didn’t stop chrom. the thing holding back toad is sakurai

 

[Gengar84]

didn’t stop chrom. the thing holding back toad is sakurai

True. I’m not saying that makes him impossible but it may be the reason that Sakurai hasn’t decided to add him as his own character yet. He might feel that he is sufficiently represented through Peach. I personally feel like the Mario movie will increase his chances a good deal, especially if the character is well liked in the movie. Similarly, I feel like the Sonic movies increase Eggman’s chances thanks to the great reception of his character in the movies. The movies can really help spread mainstream appeal to characters that the general audience may not be as familiar with even if both Toad and Eggman are very iconic among gamers.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Chrom also wasn't in the same situation overall. He was a minor cutscene move and some victory screens. Final Smashes aren't nearly as common as a Neutral B move and throws, so the comparison doesn't really work all that well. He also was outright considered, and then later became an easy Echo(and even then, all they did was not change Robin as much because it's new animations for something that already works fine).

Toad from the start was a move that was easy to replace as is. In Ultimate, now he's a far more heavy part of the moveset. Unless Toad was considered and turned down as soon as Melee(something we don't know), they couldn't be in the same situation. Being a popular pick doesn't mean the character was outright considered. Maybe that's why he was made into a move as well, because they couldn't think of any abilities at the time.

He is missing, but he's not in a Chrom situation in itself. ...Unless you can think of someone Toad can be an easy Echo of, anyway. That's kind of the key thing that got Chrom in, ease of creation. Liberties were taken for animations and even a new Up B, but they had a clear moveset to work wtih.

 

[Perkilator]

Yeah, I think the only thing holding Toad back is his inclusion in Peach’s moveset. He absolutely deserves to be a part of Smash in terms of importance and history.

Easy solution: assuming Toad becomes playable, just use Toadsworth.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Easy solution: assuming Toad becomes playable, just use Toadsworth.

I doubt many would support hitting an old man...

 

[Opossum]

I doubt many would support hitting an old man...

He knows what he did.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I doubt many would support hitting an old man...

He is Peach's main guard nowadays. It's his job to protect her. For once he can actually do it...!

 

[osby]

I doubt many would support hitting an old man...

I support hitting old men if they deserve it (and are fictional characters).

 

[fogbadge]

I doubt many would support hitting an old man...

we’re all fine with hitting a baby mouse

 

[CannonStreak]

Here is a little something about the Mario movie.

Join us at 2:00 p.m. PT on 3/9 for the world premiere of The Super Mario Bros. Movie's final trailer! No game information will be included in this #NintendoDirect. #SuperMarioMovie

📽️: https://t.co/SWL11FEoP7 pic.twitter.com/6ikAWYxCNy

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) February 22, 2023

 

[TCT~Phantom]

I feel that the 18 slots in the code don't really mean anything. The next smash game is just that - a new Smash game, it doesn't need to conform to Ultimate's limits. Hell, even in an Ultimate DX they could add more if need be.

That being said, if I had to make a roster with 18 new characters this is what I think it might look like.

1. Waluigi
2. Ashley
3. Vaati/Ganon
4. Raven Beak/Sylux
5. Designated Pokemon
6. Designated Fire Emblem
7. Designated Xenoblade (nothing against any of those three series but the frontrunners for these slots don't exist yet)
8. K.K Slider
9. Octoling
10. Akira Howard (Astral Chain)
11. Issac
12. Rhythm Heaven character (I don't know enough about the series to narrow it down)
13. Iori (King of Fighters)
14. Demi-Fiend (or some other mainline SMT rep)
15. Phoenix Wright
16. A Dark Souls/Elden Ring character (once again, I don't know enough to narrow it down)
17. Rayman
18. Kris (or another Toby Fox character)

Going to do a pure bias one in spoilers as well as a realistic 18 newcomers

1. Waluigi
2. Pauline
3. Ashley
4. Skull Kid
5. Bandana Dee
6. Meowscarada
7. Alear
8. Xenoblade
   1. Mio (swaps with Noah)
   2. Noah (swaps with Mio)
9. Tom Nook
10. Octolings
11. Officer Howard
12. Ring Fit Trainee
13. Isaac
14. Chorus Kids
15. Crash Bandicoot
16. Ryu Hayabusa
17. Sans (You can also do Kris or Frisk instead, idk

Spoiler: pure bias

1. Pauline
2. Cranky Kong
3. Ashley
4. Skull Kid
5. Bandana Dee
6. Meowscarada
7. Lyn
8. Mio
9. Officer Howard
10. Isaac
11. Chorus Kids
12. Takamaru
13. Crash Bandicoot
14. Spyro the Dragon
15. Dr. Eggman
16. Phoenix Wright
17. Alucard
18. Neku

I already explained myself there. Engage is a celebration of Fire Emblem and it's history. Rumors about Engage where always coupled with a FE4 remake, so that is likely what is next in store for Fire Emblem. Out of Alear and Sigurd, I see Alear as more likely. They could even couple them for this very reason and to make Sigurd work in the first place.

So yeah I do think Alear is close to inevitable. Just when didn't we get the latest Fire Emblem protagonist? It's been a trend even since Melee with Roy appearing before his game was even out.

While I do think Alear is likely, I think that it is feasible they miss their shot. Instead of doing a Celica in Smash Ultimate, they skipped right to do Byleth with the DLC. It is not out of the question for them to just wait it out and throw out another Fire Emblem character as DLC. We have gotten both Corrin and Byleth as DLC already, so it is not out of the question. If we are getting this next game in say, 2026-2027, maybe they wait until the DLC cycle to do a new Fire Emblem launching in 2028.

They could obviously just do Alear instead, being on the switch in a game that sold relatively well so far is a good feather to have in your cap. It's just I can see Alear missing the boat if they just decide to do something for DLC instead. Personally, I am more confident in Alear than not, but I do not think they are a shoo in.

 

[HyperSomari64]

A little late with the 18 characters, but here are Three for each category:
Nintendo:
1. Waluigi
2. Captain Toad/Toadette
3. The Satellaview mascots
4. Virtual Boy
5. Scizor
6. Heracross
7. Armarouge
8. Urbosa
9. Pico (F-ZERO)
10. Lyn
11. Mio
12. Porky
13. Medusa
14. Jimmy T.
15. Orbulon
16. Dixie and Kiddy Kong
17. Kamek
18. Sylux

Other Companies (3rd Party):
1. Blanc/White Heart
2. Asuka (Senran Kagura)
3. Bill and Lance
4. Travis Touchdown
5. Itsuki Aoi and Mirage Chrom
6. Tails
7. Shadow the Hedgehog
8. Bomberman
9. The Battletoads
10. Gex
11. Master Chief
12. PaRappa the Rapper
13. Rayman
14. Scorpion
15. Ky Kiske
16. Saber
17. Jibanyan
18. I.M. Meen

Non-Video Game (LOL Never Happening)
1. SpongeBob SquarePants
2. Sailor Moon
3. Mickey Mouse (or King Mickey, at least as an alt)
4. Inspector Gadget
5. Luffy
6. Batman
7. Megatron
8. Aang
9. The Angry Video Game Nerd
10. Kermit the Frog
11. Mordecai and Rigby
12. Revy (Black Lagoon)
13. Buzz Lightyear and Woody
14. XJ-9
15. Po (Kung Fu Panda)
16. The Hulk
17. Rambo
18. Lupin the Third

 

[chocolatejr9]

Here is a little something about the Mario movie.

Join us at 2:00 p.m. PT on 3/9 for the world premiere of The Super Mario Bros. Movie's final trailer! No game information will be included in this #NintendoDirect. #SuperMarioMovie

📽️: https://t.co/SWL11FEoP7 pic.twitter.com/6ikAWYxCNy

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) February 22, 2023

Dread it. Run from it. Blue Shell artives all the same.

 

[Gengar84]

A little late with the 18 characters, but here are Three for each caterogy:
Nintendo:
1. Waluigi
2. Captain Toad/Toadette
3. The Satellaview mascots
4. Virtual Boy
5. Scizor
6. Heracross
7. Armarouge
8. Urbosa
9. Pico (F-ZERO)
10. Lyn
11. Mio
12. Porky
13. Medusa
14. Jimmy T.
15. Orbulon
16. Dixie and Kiddy Kong
17. Kamek
18. Sylux

Other Companies (3rd Party):
1. Blanc/White Heart
2. Asuka (Senran Kagura)
3. Bill and Lance
4. Travis Touchdown
5. Itsuki Aoi and Mirage Chrom
6. Tails
7. Shadow the Hedgehog
8. Bomberman
9. The Battletoads
10. Travis Touchdown
11. Master Chief
12. PaRappa the Rapper
13. Rayman
14. Scorpion
15. Ky Kiske
16. Saber
17. Jibanyan
18. I.M. Meen

Non-Video Game (LOL Never Happening)
1. SpongeBob SquarePants
2. Sailor Moon
3. Mickey Mouse (or King Mickey, at least as an alt)
4. Inspector Gadget
5. Luffy
6. Batman
7. Megatron
8. Aang
9. The Angry Video Game Nerd
10. Kermit the Frog
11. Mordecai and Rigby
12. Revy (Black Lagoon)
13. Buzz Lightyear and Woody
14. XJ-9
15. Po (Kung Fu Panda)
16. The Hulk
17. Rambo
18. Lupin the Third

Nice to see a fellow Battletoad supporter!

Here’s my list for non game characters just for fun:

1. Raphael
2. The Undertaker
3. Venom
4. Predator
5. Edward Elric
6. Lilliana Vess
7. Alien (xenomorph)
8. Spawn
9. Turok
10. Selene (Underworld)
11. The Shredder
12. Ichigo
13. All Might
14. Wolverine
15. Becky Lynch
16. Kamina
17. Darth Vader
18. Jack Sparrow

 

[Master Hero Sock-on-Rye]

Oh, we're doing non-gaming characters now?

1. Mickey Mouse (A genuine desire for me.)
2. Popeye
3. Goku
4. Spongebob Squarepants
5. Shrek
6. Wreck-it Ralph
7. Scrooge McDuck
8. Batman
9. Superman
10. Spider-Man
11. Lum Invader
12. Woody Woodpecker
13. Bugs Bunny
14. Geralt of Rivera
15. Luke Skywalker
16. Snoopy
17. Winnie the Pooh
18. Scooby-Doo

Thoughts?

 

[Gengar84]

Oh, we're doing non-gaming characters now?

1. Mickey Mouse (A genuine desire for me.)
2. Popeye
3. Goku
4. Spongebob Squarepants
5. Shrek
6. Wreck-it Ralph
7. Scrooge McDuck
8. Batman
9. Superman
10. Spider-Man
11. Lum Invader
12. Woody Woodpecker
13. Bugs Bunny
14. Geralt of Rivera
15. Luke Skywalker
16. Snoopy
17. Winnie the Pooh
18. Scooby-Doo

Thoughts?

My favorite from that list is Spider-Man. I’ve always really liked him but I think I prefer Venom a bit more. Batman, Superman, Luke, Bugs Bunny and Goku could be fun too. My favorites tend to lean towards comic book characters and Shonen anime characters overall.

I’m curious if anyone here is familiar with every character on my list. I assume there’s not a ton of overlap in the fanbases of many of these. I’d be particularly surprised if many people know of all three between Lilliana Vess, Becky Lynch, and Selene.

 

[ARandomFruit]

I did half first parties and half third parties. Pure bias.

 

[Master Hero Sock-on-Rye]

My favorite from that list is Spider-Man. I’ve always really liked him but I think I prefer Venom a bit more. Batman, Superman, Luke, Bugs Bunny and Goku could be fun too. My favorites tend to lean towards comic book characters and Shonen anime characters overall.

I’m curious if anyone here is familiar with every character on my list. I assume there’s not a ton of overlap in the fanbases of many of these. I’d be particularly surprised if many people know of all three between Lilliana Vess, Becky Lynch, and Selene.

I was leaning towards animated characters myself, because I prefer the animation medium personally.

As for your list, I am familiar with most of them. But Lilliana, Becky, Selene, and Kamina I draw blanks at.

 

[Gengar84]

I was leaning towards animated characters myself, because I prefer the animation medium personally.

As for your list, I am familiar with most of them. But Lilliana, Becky, Selene, and Kamina I draw blanks at.

Lilliana is one of the main characters from Magic: The Gathering, Becky Lynch is probably the most popular active women’s wrestler in WWE, Selene is the main character in a series of movies about vampires and werewolves called Underworld, and Kamina is one of the main characters from a crazy over the top mech anime called Gurren Lagann.

 

[Master Hero Sock-on-Rye]

Lilliana is one of the main characters from Magic: The Gathering, Becky Lynch is probably the most popular active women’s wrestler in WWE, Selene is the main character in a series of movies about vampires and werewolves called Underworld, and Kamina is one of the main characters from a crazy over the top mech anime called Gurren Lagann.

Oh. In that case, they absolutely deserve their spots on your non-gaming lineup. Especially Becky Lynch, whose name is great outside of the wrestling connotation.

 

[DarthEnderX]

Here’s my list for non game characters just for fun:

1. Scrooge McDuck [DuckTales]
2. Michaelangelo [TMNT]
3. Batman [Batman]
4. Nemo [Little Nemo]

Because...reasons...

 

[Gengar84]

1. Scrooge McDuck [DuckTales]
2. Michaelangelo [TMNT]
3. Batman [Batman]
4. Nemo [Little Nemo]

Because...reasons...

I’m ashamed to admit that I’ve never heard of Little Nemo before this post. I’m guessing if Nemo made this image, he must have been at least somewhat well known at that point. My mind will always go to Finding Nemo when I hear that name.

On a side note, every Ninja Turtle has been my favorite at one point in time so it’s hard for me to really pick one favorite. Leonardo was my original favorite in the early episodes of the 87 show but then it changed to Michelangelo and then Raphael in that same iteration. In recent adaptations (2012 and Rise), Donatello is my favorite.

 

[Nabbitfan730]

I know not a lot of people care for this but for those who do.

Evo Lineup dropped. Spoilers: No Smash Bros this year

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fighters/comments/118lstr

 

[Zerp]

The dreadful consequences of letting Zerp mindcontrol the director and choose 18 characters:

1. Sans (Undertale)
2. Waluigi (Mario)
3. Bandana Dee (Kirby)
4. Celebi and Grovyle tag-team (Pokémon Mystery Dungeon)
5. Peppino Spaghetti (Pizza Tower)
6. Togetic + Togepi (Pokémon) It's like Rosalina and Luma except if Luma sucked at fighting and only existed to give you buffs. Basically babysitting the character!
7. Ganon (Zelda)
8. Dr. Eggman (Sonic)
9. Felicia (Darkstalkers)
10. Toad/Toadette (Mario)
11. May (Guilty Gear)
12. Breadbug (Pikmin)
13. Bluster Kong (Donkey Kong) Leo Luster is included as an install just because
14. Scream Tail (Pokémon)
15. Fernandez (Waku Waku 7)
16. Absa (Rivals of Aether)
17. Void (Kirby)
18. Spamton G. Spamton (Deltarune)

I know not a lot of people care for this but for those who do.

Evo Lineup dropped. Spoilers: No Smash Bros this year

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fighters/comments/118lstr

Sick line-up honestly. Unfortunately though when it comes to Smash I don't think we're ever going to see it at EVO again. Like, even when the next game's out I wouldn't expect it. Really doubt Nintendo will ever allow it given Sony owns EVO now.

 

[chocolatejr9]

I know not a lot of people care for this but for those who do.

Evo Lineup dropped. Spoilers: No Smash Bros this year

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fighters/comments/118lstr

No surprise: Sony owns Evo now, and unlike Microsoft they haven't shown to be willing to play nice with Nintendo. Especially now that Nintendo has more or less come out in support of the ActiBlizz buyout, depending on how you interpret the COD deal...

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Lilliana is one of the main characters from Magic: The Gathering, Becky Lynch is probably the most popular active women’s wrestler in WWE, Selene is the main character in a series of movies about vampires and werewolves called Underworld, and Kamina is one of the main characters from a crazy over the top mech anime called Gurren Lagann.

Wouldnt Simon make more sense? He's the protagonist of Gurren laggan.

 

[Gengar84]

Wouldnt Simon make more sense? He's the protagonist of Gurren laggan.

He would make more sense, so would Spider-Man over Venom but mostly just went with who I liked most. Although if I was being completely biased, I’d probably have gone with Renji or Yoroichi over Ichigo and Gambit over Wolverine but I like who I went with enough to stick with them.

 

[NintenZ]

The dreadful consequences of letting Zerp mindcontrol the director and choose 18 characters:

1. Sans (Undertale)
2. Waluigi (Mario)
3. Bandana Dee (Kirby)
4. Celebi and Grovyle tag-team (Pokémon Mystery Dungeon)
5. Peppino Spaghetti (Pizza Tower)
6. Togetic + Togepi (Pokémon) It's like Rosalina and Luma except if Luma sucked at fighting and only existed to give you buffs. Basically babysitting the character!
7. Ganon (Zelda)
8. Dr. Eggman (Sonic)
9. Felicia (Darkstalkers)
10. Toad/Toadette (Mario)
11. May (Guilty Gear)
12. Breadbug (Pikmin)
13. Bluster Kong (Donkey Kong) Leo Luster is included as an install just because
14. Scream Tail (Pokémon)
15. Fernandez (Waku Waku 7)
16. Absa (Rivals of Aether)
17. Void (Kirby)
18. Spamton G. Spamton (Deltarune)

Sick line-up honestly. Unfortunately though when it comes to Smash I don't think we're ever going to see it at EVO again. Like, even when the next game's out I wouldn't expect it. Really doubt Nintendo will ever allow it given Sony owns EVO now.

New Breadbug main right here

 

[DarthEnderX]

I’m ashamed to admit that I’ve never heard of Little Nemo before this post. I’m guessing if Nemo made this image, he must have been at least somewhat well known at that point. My mind will always go to Finding Nemo when I hear that name.

Pretty great Capcom platformer based on a property nobody's heard of.

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On a side note, every Ninja Turtle has been my favorite at one point in time so it’s hard for me to really pick one favorite. Leonardo was my original favorite in the early episodes of the 87 show but then it changed to Michelangelo and then Raphael in that same iteration. In recent adaptations (2012 and Rise), Donatello is my favorite.

Leo has always been my favorite turtle. But Mikey always feels like the most...TMNT of the TMNT. Like, all of the catch phrases start out as his. And in all the reboots, Mikey is always the one that continues to act like an 80s turtle.

Also, Nunchucks are probably the most unique weapon base for a Smash character.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

If there was to be an official poll asking fans for which veterans they would most like to see redesigned from a moveset/gameplay perspective, would take the top 2 spots out of a top 5 list, but who else would make top 5? seems like a likely one, but other possibilities filling the list are the likes of, and .

I doubt many would support hitting an old man...

I mean you can already beat up a bunch of children and animals in this franchise.

 

[HyperSomari64]

If there was to be an official poll asking fans for which veterans they would most like to see redesigned from a moveset/gameplay perspective, would take the top 2 spots out of a top 5 list, but who else would make top 5? seems like a likely one, but other possibilities filling the list are the likes of, and .

Wario will make the Top 5

 

[jamesster445]

I feel that the 18 slots in the code don't really mean anything. The next smash game is just that - a new Smash game, it doesn't need to conform to Ultimate's limits. Hell, even in an Ultimate DX they could add more if need be.

That being said, if I had to make a roster with 18 new characters this is what I think it might look like.

1. Waluigi: Fair
2. Ashley: Fair
3. Vaati/Ganon: I love Vaati and am forever pissed he wasnt in Warriors.
4. Raven Beak/Sylux: Raven Beak more like Raven Based
5. Designated Pokemon: Fair
6. Designated Fire Emblem: grumble
7. Designated Xenoblade: Agreed
8. K.K Slider: Over Tom?
9. Octoling: yes
10. Akira Howard (Astral Chain): fair
11. Issac: fair
12. Rhythm Heaven character: Karate Joe is probably the most recurring character.
13. Iori (King of Fighters): Yeah Ok.
14. Demi-Fiend (or some other mainline SMT rep): DemiFiend is cool.
15. Phoenix Wright: Fair
16. A Dark Souls/Elden Ring character (once again, I don't know enough to narrow it down): Probably just going to be the Chosen Undead.
17. Rayman: Fair
18. Kris (or another Toby Fox character): Fair

My attempt.
Went for the port route so no upgraded ATs. Did my best to balance genres, age, while highlighting new and underrepped franchises. Some unintentional bias might be included.

Spoiler

1. Dixie Kong: Kompleting the Kong Family
I dont how she hasn't got in yet. But this is an easy win for everyone and goes to completing the DK roster in a way.

2. Bandana Dee: Kirby's Dream Friend
Similar to Dixie this completes the main roster of the Kirby series. Its wierd he wasnt even an Assist trophy.

3. Tingle: The Joke
I was debating between him and Slippy, but I figure Zelda needs the content more. But yeah as of this moment, Ultimate doesnt really have a Joke character, they should fix that.

4. Porky: A Classic Nintendo Villain
Porky continues to be the one boss from Subspace that's just completely MIA (and I need closure).

5. Octoling: A Recent Rival
The one character that I know is guaranteed for the next game. And because of all of the new weapon types not used by the Inklings, they have way more moveset potential than people might realize.

6. Ring Fit: A Fresh Face
Ring Fit became the 9th best selling game on the console. It might not be "our" vibe but clearly it's more than enough to be here. And that's pretty impressive for what is a new IP*.

7. Euden: The Mobile Frontier
Hot take, I think a fighter that utilize mobile stamina and gacha mechanics could be one of the most "dumb fun" characters possible. Regardless I think mobile games are something worth celebrating and mocking.

8. Andy: The Comeback Kid
Wars is the most shafted Nintendo IP in Smash, not even having a song. So this feels like something that shouldve happened a long time ago. We should not be having any discussions about a 9th FE character before we even got our 1st AW character.

9. Noah and Mio: The Battle Couple
Xenoblade 3 was as much of a hit you can get, even got an epic flute guy. I'm saying both of them as a mix of duo fighter like Ice Climber and a tag team like PKMN Trainer, as XB3 is about the worlds of XB1 and XB2 coming together. Having only one or the other doesnt do it justice. Hopefully hardware will allow this to happen.

10. Akira Howard: The Anime Cop
I think in a lot of ways Astral Chain wouldve done the duo fighter better than what people thought an XB2 character wouldve been. Also for what it's worth Smash needs more Sci-fi vibes.

11. Foreman Spike: The Retro Throwback
Spike is in a unique position as he is an incredibly obscure character... but hes also about to be in a major motion picture (which is more than most characters in the Smash roster can say) so hes going be in the public eye again.

12. Karate Joe: Fighting to the Beat
Admittedly I'm coming off of Hi Fi Rush which combined Rhythym and combat very well. But yeah take inspiration from that with Nintendo's own rhythm series. Just remember that playing to the beat should be rewarded is more important than punishing those that cant play to the beat.
BTW yall should absolutely play Hi Fi Rush if you can.

13. Raven Beak: A Modern Nintendo Villain
8 years ago I probably wouldve said Hades but that spot is currently occupied by Raven Beak. And yeah... hes cool as heck.

14. Crash Bandicoot:....
Honestly I was running out of ideas so this could be anyone, Alear, a Scar/Viol-mon. I figured I'd go with what would make the most people happy. And as of now Crash is probably the most requested character at the moment.

15. Diablo: The Prime Evil
First, this would just be funny. Second I think this would be a cool "PC" rep in a way, and for a while Blizzard was absolutely a pillar of PC gaming. Third, I cant think of any character more fitting to represent Activision at the moment... have I mentioned that this would be funny.

16. Ryu Hayabusa: The Ultimate Ninja
This is just my most wanted, I got nothing to say beyond that.

17. Arle Nadja: Queen of Puzzles
Puzzle games are probably the most neglected genre on Smash despite the universal appeal. And while Tetris is easily the more popular game, Puyo Puyo is a close second, and I think it can be translated to a fighting game a little more easily.

18. Master Chief: Shoot Your Way Out
Multiplayer shooters are another genre that's sorely lacking. But Halo's sandbox of weapons are among the best and if handled well could allow a fighter that's both dynamic and adaptable.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Pretty great Capcom platformer based on a property nobody's heard of.

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Leo has always been my favorite turtle. But Mikey always feels like the most...TMNT of the TMNT. Like, all of the catch phrases start out as his. And in all the reboots, Mikey is always the one that continues to act like an 80s turtle.

Also, Nunchucks are probably the most unique weapon base for a Smash character.

For further context Little Nemo was a old Newspaper comic strip that decades after it's creation was adapted into an anime movie and said anime movie was adapted by Capcom into that NES platformer.

I only know this at all becaus i watched a lot of old Nostalgia critic videos growing up.

 

[CommanderZaktan]

I feel that the 18 slots in the code don't really mean anything. The next smash game is just that - a new Smash game, it doesn't need to conform to Ultimate's limits. Hell, even in an Ultimate DX they could add more if need be.

That being said, if I had to make a roster with 18 new characters this is what I think it might look like.

1. Waluigi
2. Ashley
3. Vaati/Ganon
4. Raven Beak/Sylux
5. Designated Pokemon
6. Designated Fire Emblem
7. Designated Xenoblade (nothing against any of those three series but the frontrunners for these slots don't exist yet)
8. K.K Slider
9. Octoling
10. Akira Howard (Astral Chain)
11. Issac
12. Rhythm Heaven character (I don't know enough about the series to narrow it down)
13. Iori (King of Fighters)
14. Demi-Fiend (or some other mainline SMT rep)
15. Phoenix Wright
16. A Dark Souls/Elden Ring character (once again, I don't know enough to narrow it down)
17. Rayman
18. Kris (or another Toby Fox character)

Here's my picks
1. Bandana Waddle Dee
2. Dr. Eggman
3. Raven Beak
4. A Pokemon from Gen 8 or 9
5. Akira Howard
6. Noah (Mio as an echo fighter since 3 can change weapon classes like Swordfighter and Zephyr)
7. Octoling (most likely an echo for Inkling)
8. Glee Club
9. Ayumi Tachibana
10. Scorpion (Sub Zero as an echo)
11. Phoenix Wright
12. Crash
13. Rayman
14. Doom Slayer
15. Professor Layton
16. Reimu Hakurei

BTW, I'm also throwing some new stages as well a couple of returning ones
3DS Rainbow Road
Pac Maze
Death Egg
E.M.M.I Zone
Any Pokemon areas from Gen 8 or 9
Erythia Sea
Rhythm Heaven stage that changes
The Pit
The Courtroom
N. Sanity Beach
Glade of Dreams
UAC Facility
Molentary Express
Hakurei Shrine

 

[Speed Weed]

alright uhhhhhhhh

1. Waluigi
2. Dixie Kong
3. Skull Kid
4. a new Pokemon, uhhhh Meowscarada I guess
5. Bandana Dee
6. Lyn
7. Octoling
8. Ring Fit Trainee
9. Officer Howard
10. Isaac
11. Takamaru
12. Stylist
13. Arle
14. Bomberman
15. Jill Valentine
16. Lloyd Irving
17. Dragonborn
18. Sans

 

[Laniv]

Eighteen characters? Hmmm...

The theme here is "I can do whatever I want"

1. Toad
2. Tom Nook
3. Dixie Kong
4. Bandana Dee
5. King Boo
6. Pauline
7. Ganon (Big blue pig)
8. Vaati
9. Magolor
10. Genesect
11. Tiki
12. Savvy Stylist
13. Sablé Prince
14. Lip
15. Chibi-Robo
16. Tails
17. Bomberman
18. Rayman