Here's a new topic. Let's talk moveset design.
Ignoring any discussion regarding likelihood, priority or whether or not he should be in...
Seriously. DON'T do it.
How would you personally design Bandana Waddle Dee's moveset?
Personally, I'd either do what SSF2 did and give him Spear, Parasol, and Beam to represent the "Waddle" species. Surprised that SSF2's dev team hasn't thought of this, but they could easily explain away that Bandee's spear works the way it does in SSF2, because said spear was given the same sort of mechanical enhancements Dedede's mallet got, going into the official Smash Bros. games.
If not that, then I'd just give him Spear ALONE and maybe make up some stuff that could be borrowed from Staff Kirby's moveset in Star Allies.
In addition, for his F.S... I'm thinking of giving HIM Waddle Dee Army. He IS Dedede's second-in-command after all, and I've never been a fan of SSF2 giving him Flare Beam. Like, Waddle Dee Army is right THERE, guys.
Been playing a lot of fighters lately and got bored, so I decided to make something awesome.
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What's your reaction if this suddenly happened? Disappointed by the lack of variety? Pumped to see more fighting games represented in Smash? Just happy to suddenly get 10 new characters?
I wouldn't mind it, personally. Unlike some folks here, I'm cool with Mai Shiranui, although I think one of the Mortal Kombat guys (preferably Sub-Zero) should be replaced with Darkstalkers' Morrigan Aensland or something.
By the way, if we're talking about characters with inaccurate characterization, can we talk about Lucina?
You can't tell me Lucina wouldn't turn into a complete fan girl meeting Marth. And even if she was disappointed in him (cause she beat him) she wouldn't be so dismissive of him.
"ThIs Is ThE hErO kInG?!?"
Thank goodness, I thought I was the only one that felt as though Lucina seemed oddly... disrespectful(?)
...Think they'll add Chase and Elaine as alts if the character comes back?
You know... given the Pokémon involved with the Pokémon Trainer character, I could very well see Chase and Elaine added to the 'rotation', and it'd be an even spilt, if that makes sense.
Red gets 2 alts., Leaf gets 2 alts., Chase gets 2 alts., and Elaine gets 2 alts.
As far as adding more trainers goes, I don't think adding characters from other regions is that great an idea. It wouldn't really make sense for Brendan, Dawn, Ethan, or Serena to have Squirtle/Ivysaur/Charizard as their team since their starters are different.
You could do Chase and Elaine since they're stand-ins for Red and Leaf, though I'd add a partner Pikachu and Eevee to them for accuracy, even if they're just kinda sitting on their heads or something.
EDIT: Forgot Callum and Serena are given the Kanto starters. It'd still make sense for them to have Kalos starters instead, but the Kanto starters are at least a thing for them.
Funny thing is, before Sakurai explained how the 3DS was going to limit certain characters from appearing in Smash 4, I legit predicted that Calem and Serena or Serena by herself (given her role in the XY(Z) anime and all) would replace Red as Smash 4's trainer. Boy, was I ever wrong about THAT happening.
The thing about adding more Trainers? Many of those games lets you use the Kanto Starters in some way. It's only when it's impossible that it makes no sense. Thanks to trading and all. Almost nobody is going to specifically have a team of Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard in a fight. Outside of emulating Smash Bros. Not even Red does in games, whether he takes more from Ash's team or not. It's a very specific situation. So it doesn't really matter if it would be Gold or the Kalos characters, etc. at that point. It's still just a costume, anyway. I get what you mean about it seeming a little odd, but it would only be odd if it was just Charizard having a Trainer, which means they wouldn't have the other Starters either(you also can't normally get all the Starters at once outside of Yellow, so it's not even something Leaf would normally do, though she might've in Masters? I don't know much about the game).
The whole thing is meant to be a more general take on something a Pokemon Trainer could do within the franchise, including trading with other games, etc. It not being specific, that said, is obviously both a good and bad thing. It makes it more awkward to update Red/Leaf to match their personalities, but it also makes it more awkward to add more in general as is beyond another Trainer design).
Either way, it's an awkward thing. So it's not surprised it's handled loosely enough to feel a tad less awkward.
As much as I would want her in Smash, this is sort of what holds me off from considering a team of Cynthia and Garchomp as a playable character in Smash...
