Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

[Guynamednelson]

You can rest now

oh no

FE Engage was completely skipped by the four spirit events

There are no brakes on the speculation train. Buckle up.

 

[TheLamerGamer]

Well, that's anticlimactic (and explains why it took so long).

Oh well, it was fun to be back speculating about new, tangible official content even just for a short while.

But now that ultimate is, finally, completely finished (bookmarking this just in case...), we can focus completely on the next game... again.

I do get the feeling we might not need to wait that long though.

 

[cashregister9]

So Alear is a hard lock right?

 

[Noipoi]

oh no

FE Engage was completely skipped by the four spirit events

There are no brakes on the speculation train. Buckle up.

I can’t believe Mario is deconformed for the next Smash

 

[Ivander]

So Alear is a hard lock right?

As we all know, no Spirit event = Definitely the next character.

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

I can’t believe Mario is deconformed for the next Smash

F in chat for Elephant Mario.

 

[CommanderZaktan]

Time to predict the fighters
Peach and Stella: Peach and Blue Isabelle
Swordfighter Peach: Marth or Lucina
Elephant Mario: Default or Black Mario
Talking Flower: Yellow Ivysaur or Yellow Piranha Plant

 

[Noipoi]

Y’know, Forgotten Land didn’t get a spirit event either.

Bandana Dee confirmed?

 

[Guynamednelson]

Y’know, Forgotten Land didn’t get a spirit event either.

Bandana Dee confirmed?

Alear with an Emblem Ring that summons Bandana Dee confirmed.

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

The SMRPG remake wasn't part of this. Geno confirmed :V

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Endless Ocean wasn't a part of this.

Stingray confirmed.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Endless Ocean wasn't a part of this.

Stingray confirmed.

The SMRPG remake wasn't part of this. Geno confirmed :V

Okay, so Alear's moveset has been leaked: They'll summon Bandana Dee for their neutral special, Geno for their side special, and a stingray for their up special.

Now what could their down special be?

 

[AreJay25]

Horse Man from Everybody 1-2 Switch didn't get a Spirit.

I'm sure everyone will jump with joy when he is clearly, certainly, absolutely revealed as a newcomer in Smash 6. People will flood the streets in celebration.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Okay, so Alear's moveset has been leaked: They'll summon Bandana Dee for their neutral special, Geno for their side special, and a stingray for their up special.

Now what could their down special be?

Horse Man from Everybody 1-2 Switch didn't get a Spirit.

I'm sure everyone will jump with joy when he is clearly, certainly, absolutely revealed as a newcomer in Smash 6. People will flood the streets in celebration.

Oh right, that's Alear's down special. Weird moveset, but I guess they're really desperate for a new FE character to be less controversial.

 

[superprincess]

Bayonetta 3 wasn't a part of this.

Viola confirmed. She better cost four thousand US dollars.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Horse Man from Everybody 1-2 Switch didn't get a Spirit.

I'm sure everyone will jump with joy when he is clearly, certainly, absolutely revealed as a newcomer in Smash 6. People will flood the streets in celebration.

His name is Horace.

You need to treat him with respect or he'll show up at your house at 3 in the morning.

 

[Ivander]

Alear with an Emblem Ring that summons Bandana Dee confirmed.

So when Alear's colors change from the Bandana Dee Emblem Ring, does Alear get brown hair with blue tip and a yellow-ish face with big eyes, blushes on their cheeks and no mouth?

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Damn, no Engage, no Forgotten Land, no Bayonetta 3 or Origins, and still no Sans spirit.

...Please, I'm begging the gods, let the Noah and Mio, 12 Sentinels, and Zagreus spirits have their names fixed

 

[DarthEnderX]

sigh Okay, remade the whole thing cause of Little Mac, and it's a good thing I did, cause I accidentally skipped an entire row.

How'd you get a lopsided roster with this maker? I've been trying to make one that isn't just a perfect square but there doesn't seem to be an option.

That was the photoshop part. I just drew a black box over the slots I didn't use.

 

[Jave]

Not gonna lie, this feels very anticlimactic. Would have loved something more out of the blue like a couple of 3rd parties but it is what it is.

Also no FE Engage. Oh well, I'm not reading anything into that.

I'm totally reading it as Alear being saved for base roster in Smash 6. I know what I'm getting myself into. Don't @ me.

 

[7NATOR]

On a Serious Note, If Development on the Smash is Underway, I do have to wonder if Engage and Forgotten Land (Especially engage) being missing is Very Deliberate. I'm starting to think that Alear might be coming to Smash pretty soon

If that's the Case, I think Noah and/or Mio might get DLC'D, and maybe Gen 9 as well. On Conspiracy stuff also, Engage I believe was actually done in 2021, even though it Came out in 2022, So if Alear is in, and Noah/Mio and Gen 9 are not in, That would most likely make the Finalization of the Roster sometime in 2021

Is it the final spirit event?

Well noting in the Spirit event would seem to imply the need to take down Mod Videos. Personally I'm thinking we might be getting Some Smash news soon, because they probably don't want Mod Videos to confuse people when they Announce New Information

 

[Noipoi]

Holy **** the next Smash will have a new Fremblem character??

Who'da thunk it???

 

[CapitaineCrash]

I don't think that those spirits events means a lot in terms of future contents in a next Smash. Honestly I still see Noah or Mio as way more likely than Alear, I don't think the fact that they got spirited truly matters.

 

[superprincess]

Spirits truly mean nothing if we're being real. When Sora's amiibo released, Sakurai said his work on SSBU "is done", before this final spirit event was even announced. So he clearly doesn't even think spirits are worth deeming as "work". They're just a fun extra that the team threw in to throw a bone at some newer releases. They don't mean anything more than that and if you think they do you genuinely need a break from speculation.

 

[Perkilator]

On the topic of Fire Emblem; assuming the dev team found it a logistical hassle to think of a decent moveset for Alear, what if Veyle was chosen as a backup option? She could still use the Engage mechanic for Emblem Alear as well as be a distinct fighter in her own right.

 

[PeridotGX]

I remain baffled at the lack of Undertale spirits. At this point I'm convinced Toby turned them down for weird lore reasons, because I refuse to believe the idea didn't cross Sakurai's mind.

 

[cashregister9]

I joke but yeah the spirits probably don't mean anything for the future

OR THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT US TO THINK AND WE ARE GETTING A 3RD FIGHTERS PASS WITH ALEAR, MATTHEW, VIOLA, UNDYNE AND CARBY

 

[Wonder Smash]

sigh Okay, remade the whole thing cause of Little Mac, and it's a good thing I did, cause I accidentally skipped an entire row.

That was the photoshop part. I just drew a black box over the slots I didn't use.

That's MUCH better!

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

I joke but yeah the spirits probably don't mean anything for the future

OR THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT US TO THINK AND WE ARE GETTING A 3RD FIGHTERS PASS WITH ALEAR, MATTHEW, VIOLA, UNDYNE AND CARBY

.....****, now I want Car Mouth Kirby as a fighter.

I don't care how it's supposed to work, I just want it.

 

[Jave]

Yeah I don't think the spirits mean anything (That spoiled part of my post was obviously in jest, hence the spoiler). I've been speculating about Smash since I first saw Smash 64 in a Nintendo magazine, I know very well what I'm getting myself into when I talk about these things. It's all in good fun.

That said when the character support threads reopen I fully expect the "Spirit Theory" to be part of the speculation, and if people want to do that, let them. It's all part of what makes Smash discussion, well, Smash discussion.

 

[Gorgonzales]

its gonna be an elephant mario and wonder flower spirit

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oh my god

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Barring the obvious third parties and the obligatory Pokemon...

Weren't all the new spirits from first party franchises?

Like, not a collaboration with a studio that Nintendo doesn't own like HAL or Intelligent systems. I think everything else is wholly Nintendo owned. Splatoon, Zelda, Mario and Pikmin are made by Nintendo's own studios and Monolith Soft is wholly owned by Nintendo.

Maybe that's why we got what we got. It would explain no Engage, Forgotten Land or Another Code.

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

Barring the obvious third parties and the obligatory Pokemon...

Weren't all the new spirits from first party franchises?

Like, not a collaboration with a studio that Nintendo doesn't own like HAL or Intelligent systems. I think everything else is wholly Nintendo owned. Splatoon, Zelda, Mario and Pikmin are made by Nintendo's own studios and Monolith Soft is wholly owned by Nintendo.

Maybe that's why we got what we got. It would explain no Engage, Forgotten Land or Another Code.

I know it's not intentional, but there's something inherently funny about saying on the order of "barring any examples of the contrary, X".

 

[BuckleyTim]

Well, time to start speculating about the Switch 2 Direct again.

...who am I kidding, I can't take three months of that.

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

Now we can finally properly speculate on Super Smash Bros. Grand Tour for Android and iOS devices.

 

[HyperSomari64]

Now we can finally properly speculate on Super Smash Bros. Grand Tour for Android and iOS devices.

Main plot is that everyone becomes a kid by some magical mistake. And everyone turns into some super-powerful form to be in their original age.

 

[Garteam]

I think the exclusion of Fire Emblem and Kirby was due to "Post-Sora, Nintendo Switch games that aren't Mario or Scarlet/Violet" only being the theme of one wave. Tears of the Kingdom and Splatoon 3 were too noteworthy to exclude. Pikmin 4 had been anticipated for a decade prior and was a surprise success in 2023, so its inclusion also made sense. Xenoblade 3 probably got the last spot because rounding out Xenoblade by adding the final game in the trilogy was more important than increasing Kirby and Fire Emblem's diverse representation.

Had we gotten another wave like the first, my guess is we would have gotten Alear, Car Mouth, Sports Mate, and maybe a spirit from Bayonetta 3 or Origins.

 

[Oracle Link]

But yeah on the topic of music, the way Ultimate handles music, while overall I'd say it's positive, but it also leads to a few problems.

Yeah one of the biggest issues of ultimate is that remixes arent orderd but composers just do them when they want!
... Bandai NAMCO composers which lead to kirbys crowned not getting a remix when itz was probably planned!

Also i think in general some franchises struggle with a balance of Battle and Field Music Pokemon has almost only battle themes Zelda has only 3 yes 3 pure Battle themes Zelda doesnt even have a generic boss theme or a miniboss one!
Mother also has only 2 battle themes in one remix! I get that some sample songs but still sanctuary guardian and a battle medly would round out tzhe selection!

I also hate it when a theme is already in the game and than it gets in the game again with another theme attached that doesnt have its own song!
God i wish there was a lone Onett, ghirahim or oot miniboss theme!
Why do we nmeed winters (night) when snowman is already in the game?
Why is green greens variations attached to songs who dont have them? Like of course green greens is in modern boss themes its a part of those songs but why is hero returns slapped onto the end of the marx remix?

 

[cashregister9]

They have been talking about the spirits on the JP twitter

Something about this spirit really annoys me.

Why are both of them in the same spirit?
Why are they scaled weird?

 

[Guynamednelson]

Everyone is here but with those long-winded disclaimers you see in medical commercials

Do not take Everyone Is Here-icol if you are pregnant, operating heavy machinery, or only like 10 of the characters on SSBU's 82 character roster.

I know this is late, but I just thought of this.