Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[StarBot]

He would make a great AT though. Just wont punch female characters. Given ats, would be a fun gimmick.

This would be hard for the Pokémon fighters, or characters with different genders alts

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

He would make a great AT though. Just wont punch female characters. Given ats, would be a fun gimmick.

Thats the worst idea I have ever heard

 

[SharkLord]

Yeah, but given his character, i think at or spirit is his best shot of representation.

Most likely a Mii Costume. As of current, ATs don't seem to be added post-launch.

 

[Aerospherology]

He would make a great AT though. Just wont punch female characters. Given ats, would be a fun gimmick.

He counterattacks against female characters

 

[drag0nscythe]

This would be hard for the Pokémon fighters, or characters with different genders alts

Would not be that hard. Just code in a value for each alt.

But

Most likely a Mii Costume. As of current, ATs don't seem to be added post-launch.

Mii most likely.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Idk why but the concept of "As an AT, Kiryu doesnt hit woman" rubs me the wrong

 

[Cosmic77]

A DLC character doesn't necessarily have to be from a new series, nor do they have to be from a game that's completely unrepresented in Smash.

All Nintendo really cares about is making sure the character has enough new, relevant, and specific material to pass as a character bundle. In other words, I think it's more likely that someone like Waluigi would be tied in with a single new game than it would for him to be part of a generic "Super Mario" bundle. It's far easier to focus on one game, especially since Mario is a franchise that has a ton of existing content they'd have to tiptoe around.

 

[PeridotGX]

This would be hard for the Pokémon fighters, or characters with different genders alts

the one bowser jr. main when he chooses the wendy alt and his opponent gets the Kiryu AT

 

[Mushroomguy12]

He would make a great AT though. Just wont punch female characters. Given ats, would be a fun gimmick.

Reminds me of that event in Smash Wii U.

 

[StarBot]

Reminds me of that event in Smash Wii U.

I miss this mode

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Reminds me of that event in Smash Wii U.

If only Sakurai gave us the ability to create our own custom event matches. That would have been cool.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

While I will say I think characters from unrepresented games are more likely, I will say we shouldn't dismiss a character simply because they're from a series that's already in.

Gotta remember, patterns are patterns until they're not.

 

[PeridotGX]

If only Sakurai gave us the ability to create our own custom event matches. That would have been cool.

For awhile now, I've really wanted the abilty to make custom classic mode routes. It'd be a small thing that really enhances replayability.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Unfortunately, Kiryu has been implicitly deconfirmed by virtue of respecting women.

Well, that’s not true. That was in response to Tekken and Street Fighter and the like. In an interview with IGN:

IGN: SEGA has put Sonic, Bayonetta and Joker in Super Smash Bros. Any chance Kiryu will make an appearance? Majima would make a great echo fighter.

Nagoshi: I don't think (Smash Bros director Masahiro) Sakurai is interested, haha. If he asked I’d say yes, but I don't think he wants them!

IGN: He has characters like Snake in there – it’s not so dissimilar, right?

Nagoshi: Nah, that’s different. Even if they’re both killers, they’re pretty different.

Sato: I think it would be very interesting (to put Kiryu in Smash Bros). He could pick up a bicycle out of nowhere to whack opponents with, haha. There are so many strong characters in Smash Brothers, I wonder whether Kazuma Kiryu could defeat them!

I don’t know HOW a question about Tekken got turned around into a disconfirmation for Smash but the creators are not against Kiryu in Smash. We gotta stop digging so deep into specific interviews, or interviews entirely, for the sheer novelty of disconfirming characters. It’s not working.

Edit: DragonScythe not sure how you ended up quoted in this post. My bad.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Well, that’s not true. That was in response to Tekken and Street Fighter and the like. In an interview with IGN:

I don’t know HOW a question about Tekken got turned around into a disconfirmation for Smash but the creators are not against Kiryu in Smash. We gotta stop digging so deep into specific interviews, or interviews entirely, for the sheer novelty of disconfirming characters. It’s not working.

Besides, if Kiryu is allowed to beat up women in Project X Zone, another crossover, Smash should be fine.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Well, 12 days until the great The-Last-of-Us-Part-2-wins-everything-you-philistines-just-don't-get-it Awards.

Don't expect Nintendo to have anything there but watch it anyway.
It's lockdown, what else are you gonna do?

 

[I.D.]

Well, 12 days until the great The-Last-of-Us-Part-2-wins-everything-you-philistines-just-don't-get-it Awards.

Don't expect Nintendo to have anything there but watch it anyway.
It's lockdown, what else are you gonna do?

Play videogames.

 

[Lamperouge]

Well, 12 days until the great The-Last-of-Us-Part-2-wins-everything-you-philistines-just-don't-get-it Awards.

Don't expect Nintendo to have anything there but watch it anyway.
It's lockdown, what else are you gonna do?

Read a book.

 

[GoodGrief741]

Well, that’s not true. That was in response to Tekken and Street Fighter and the like. In an interview with IGN:

I don’t know HOW a question about Tekken got turned around into a disconfirmation for Smash but the creators are not against Kiryu in Smash. We gotta stop digging so deep into specific interviews, or interviews entirely, for the sheer novelty of disconfirming characters. It’s not working.

Edit: DragonScythe not sure how you ended up quoted in this post. My bad.

That's because you're quoting the wrong interview. This is the interview in question:

Interview de Toshihiro Nagoshi: l'homme derrière Yakuza et bien plus encore

Chez SEGA, il a travaillé sur Daytona USA, F-Zero GX, Shenmue et tant d’autres. Entretien avec Toshihiro Nagoshi, le créateur de la saga Yakuza pour la sortie de Yakuza : Like a Dragon.

www.redbull.com

I don't see how an old interview should still be in consideration when we have newer information that contradicts it, and I'm saying this as someone who wants Kiryu in Smash.

 

[Guynamednelson]

what else are you gonna do?

I dunno

Watch a movie

Play with the new phone I'm getting on my birthday

Play some Sma-ha no only lame-os actually play that game

 

[SharkLord]

That's because you're quoting the wrong interview. This is the interview in question:

Interview de Toshihiro Nagoshi: l'homme derrière Yakuza et bien plus encore

Chez SEGA, il a travaillé sur Daytona USA, F-Zero GX, Shenmue et tant d’autres. Entretien avec Toshihiro Nagoshi, le créateur de la saga Yakuza pour la sortie de Yakuza : Like a Dragon.

www.redbull.com

I don't see how an old interview should still be in consideration when we have newer information that contradicts it, and I'm saying this as someone who wants Kiryu in Smash.

Either way I'm sitting back and enjoying the "Kiryu respects women" jokes

 

[Jerry98]

Well, 12 days until the great The-Last-of-Us-Part-2-wins-everything-you-philistines-just-don't-get-it Awards.

Please, not again...

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Please, not again...

In life there are three things that are inevitable:

• Death
• Taxes
• TLOU2 Discourse

 

[Captain Shwampy]

I dont think Nagoshi was serious or he really cares. He has sort of douchey cynical personality.

This is the same guy that went on a puyo puyo esports live stream and insulted the puyo puyo players which caused massive down votes and a apology by SEGA but not by himself.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Well, 12 days until the great The-Last-of-Us-Part-2-wins-everything-you-philistines-just-don't-get-it Awards.

Don't expect Nintendo to have anything there but watch it anyway.
It's lockdown, what else are you gonna do?

Well, at least I'm gonna watch it with a friend. We'll get so bored, we'll act like we're drunk.

Though before you ask, no, we will not actually be drinking.

 

[7NATOR]

Maybe Nintendo can finally Show off Bayonetta 3 After 3 years since it's announcement

 

[SpectreJordan]

Spirits and Mii Costumes from around Terry's release (because that's the earliest we heard about Pass 2). Everything that came with Byleth I assume is disconfirmed, since they had to have the roster selected by then, but I guess all DLC before that is a grey area. Rex is fine because he had to have been decided long before Pass 2 was in consideration.

Aside from that, characters disconfirmed by interviews or other development tidbits we've heard, like Doomguy, Kiryu, 2B, etc.

When was 2B mentioned? I haven’t seen anything about that.

Well, 12 days until the great The-Last-of-Us-Part-2-wins-everything-you-philistines-just-don't-get-it Awards.

Don't expect Nintendo to have anything there but watch it anyway.
It's lockdown, what else are you gonna do?

My money is on Animal Crossing. That game took the world by storm & sort of became more than a game for a lot of people this year. It really helped people find happiness & connect during a dark time. No bias speaking here since I haven’t played it & FF7 Remake is my personal GOTY; though I’m starting Hades tonight so maybe that can take the top spot.

 

[GoodGrief741]

When was 2B mentioned? I haven’t seen anything about that

Sakurai mentioned in a Famitsu interview that he only met Yoko Taro last December.

 

[SpectreJordan]

Sakurai mentioned in a Famitsu interview that he only met Yoko Taro last December.

Eh, I don’t think that means too much. If anything, that meeting could’ve been about them discussing how to represent 2B in Smash. I don’t think it’d have been necessary for the two to meet when a deal was being made. Especially since Taro is an oddball lol

 

[drag0nscythe]

Does 2B have a chance? after what they did to Mai?
Well. There is still Bayo and ZSS. maybe.

 

[7NATOR]

Eh, I don’t think that means too much. If anything, that meeting could’ve been about them discussing how to represent 2B in Smash. I don’t think it’d have been necessary for the two to meet when a deal was being made. Especially since Taro is an oddball lol

Well if it's for a Character, I'd Imagine that be too late for Sakurai to be at the Negotiation table. The roster was finalized around November (or Earlier), yes

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

That's because you're quoting the wrong interview. This is the interview in question:

Interview de Toshihiro Nagoshi: l'homme derrière Yakuza et bien plus encore

Chez SEGA, il a travaillé sur Daytona USA, F-Zero GX, Shenmue et tant d’autres. Entretien avec Toshihiro Nagoshi, le créateur de la saga Yakuza pour la sortie de Yakuza : Like a Dragon.

www.redbull.com

I don't see how an old interview should still be in consideration when we have newer information that contradicts it, and I'm saying this as someone who wants Kiryu in Smash.

Why would an interview talking about Tekken be in consideration for Smash? Literally guy gets asked “Kiryu in Smash?” He says “yes” guy gets asked “Kiryu in Tekken?” He says “no” that’s all the two interviews are saying.

 

[SharkLord]

Does 2B have a chance? after what they did to Mai?
Well. There is still Bayo and ZSS. maybe.

I feel like Sakurai would be more willing to give up a background cameo than he would an entire fighter, especially when the hypothetical fighter in this situation shows much less skin.

 

[RileyXY1]

Why would an interview talking about Tekken be in consideration for Smash?

Because both are fighting games, and he talked about fighting games specifically.

 

[SNEKeater]

Well, that’s not true. That was in response to Tekken and Street Fighter and the like. In an interview with IGN:

I don’t know HOW a question about Tekken got turned around into a disconfirmation for Smash but the creators are not against Kiryu in Smash. We gotta stop digging so deep into specific interviews, or interviews entirely, for the sheer novelty of disconfirming characters. It’s not working.

Edit: DragonScythe not sure how you ended up quoted in this post. My bad.

They're quoting a different interview, a more recent one. Though I don't think it implies a total deconfirmation, and knowing Nagoshi, I wouldn't be surprised if he was joking in some way.

At the same time...

Besides, if Kiryu is allowed to beat up women in Project X Zone, another crossover, Smash should be fine.

Yeah, this is a thing. While Project X Zone isn't as big as Smash and the context might be a bit different, I don't see why he couldn't be part of Smash or any fighting game when Project X Zone 2 is a thing.
Granted, maybe Nagoshi has changed his vision about the character since Project X Zone 2 came out.

 

[SpectreJordan]

Well if it's for a Character, I'd Imagine that be too late for Sakurai to be at the Negotiation table. The roster was finalized around November (or Earlier), yes

I meant that I don’t think Sakurai meeting Taro is important for the meetings. They could meet at a later date after Square & Nintendo had come to an agreement. Technically, Sakurai meeting the creator doesn’t have to happen at all. He just does it out of respect & to get their insight.

 

[Among Waddle Dees]

In life there are three things that are inevitable:

• Death
• Taxes
• TLOU2 Discourse

I disagree, TLOU2 discourse is in the same category of the certainty that induces taxing.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Does 2B have a chance? after what they did to Mai?
Well. There is still Bayo and ZSS. maybe.

Who’s to say but I think yeah, all she would require is a slight design change. I’m not even sure what happened with Mai. There’s costumes for her that aren’t as risqué so I’m not sure why they didn’t add her with one of those.

 

[7NATOR]

I meant that I don’t think Sakurai meeting Taro is important for the meetings. They could meet at a later date after Square & Nintendo had come to an agreement. Technically, Sakurai meeting the creator doesn’t have to happen at all. He just does it out of respect & to get their insight.

I Don't know. As Sakurai is the Director of Smash, he needs to know the Creators demands for a character before coming to a finalization. Nintendo could start the process, but I Imagine Sakurai needs to meet the creators first before Finalization can happen

 

[SharkLord]

Who’s to say but I think yeah, all she would require is a slight design change. I’m not even sure what happened with Mai. There’s costumes for her that aren’t as risqué so I’m not sure why they didn’t add her with one of those.

I think it's because the devs didn't feel like inventing an entirely new design for a mere background cameo.