Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Cosmic77]

For me, Lloyd is one of those characters who I'm so neutral on that I'd probably immediately move on from his announcement and be ready for the next fighter. No complaining, no excitement. He would just...exist.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

...Isn't that specifically the Hero from Dragon Quest 1? Who isn't playable in Smash(we have a Mii costume based upon the armor). Erdrick isn't there... which to be fair, would make that accurate.

I mean, just saying.

Hero is missed, but not the one in the picture. XD I'm actually surprised it didn't have Erdrick on that picture, honestly. And this is coming from the girl who wanted the DQ1 Hero playable if we got Hero instead of Slime.

 

[KillerCage]

Here's another game.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Spend them on whoever the lobster person is.

I am genuinely curious, does anyone know what game that character's from?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

I am genuinely curious, does anyone know what game that character's from?

I think it's just the lobster meme from FE Fates gone too far, so it's probably Ryoma

 

[7NATOR]

Since We've been getting Premium Costume every Pack since Banjo's, who are your 4 Premium Costume Predictions?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Since We've been getting Premium Costume every Pack since Banjo's, who are your 4 Premium Costume Predictions?

We didn't have a Deluxe for Terry's Pack, iirc.

 

[scoobymcsnack]

We didn't have a Deluxe for Terry's Pack, iirc.

Terry was Sans!

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Terry was Sans!

Sans came with Banjo.

 

[EmperorCoal]

...You do realize the bottom row has two FE reps, right? We're gonna be fricked over by the Fire Emblem either way.

I'm banking on the inclusion of Gex mitigating backlash for a single FE rep. If we get two the backlash would be like an all nighter at Richard Simmons' house and other funny Lizard quotes you can tell your friends.

 

[Shroob]

Sans came with Banjo.

Wait no he wa---


Checks


.....this is some extreme Mandela Effect **** I'll tell ya h'wat.

 

[Blargg888]

Spend all 15 for the bottom row to maximize reward and as our one straggler leave an FE rep to avoid a community wide heart attack

No.

Hector
Celica
Ayumi
Rhythm Joe
Rex & Pyra
Decidueye
Lloyd

These choices would get me murdered, but it'd be worth it.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Wait no he wa---


Checks


.....this is some extreme Mandela Effect **** I'll tell ya h'wat.

The confusion probably comes from the fact that both the Sans outfit and Terry were revealed on the same day.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Thinking about it, Vault Boy is the only Deluxe costume to not come with anything unique other than being a good costume. I wish it had music or something otherwise cool. Like unique sound effects.

Bomberman is by far my favorite one. The lack of music is too bad, but I love the alternate colors.

 

[Cosmic77]

I definitely remember Sans being revealed in Banjo's presentation because practically the entire internet was ignoring Terry because of a Mii costume and Megalovania.

 

[7NATOR]

I Wish they gave Travis's Costume Lightsaber Sound Effects

 

[scoobymcsnack]

Sans came with Banjo.

That's right! My bad! lol

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Y’all make sure to keep an eye out for things that might be considered bait, don’t respond to it, just report it.

On another subject, a while back I saw that someone said that they considered Sora and Geno both more likely than Lara Croft. Why? I think people overestimate the Smash Fandoms echo chamber. If a globally known character like Lara is up for grabs with the presence that she has, a presence that is just as present in films why would they pass that up? So that begs the question, is Geno and Sora really more likely than Lara?

 

[EmperorCoal]

No.

Hector
Celica
Ayumi
Rhythm Joe
Rex & Pyra
Decidueye
Lloyd

These choices would get me murdered, but it'd be worth it.

I fully respect it, I'm personally just trying to live long enough to see Pheonix Wright in Smash before the fans string me up.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Why?

They've never heard of Tomb Raider, so it doesn't exist in their eyes.

It's just a joke....hopefully.

 

[Blargg888]

I fully respect it, I'm personally just trying to live long enough to see Pheonix Wright in Smash before the fans string me up.

Phoenix Wright is one my Top 5 most wanted characters. I definitely want him in. Only reason I didn't choose him is because he wasn't an option in that image.

 

[MooMew64]

Y’all make sure to keep an eye out for things that might be considered bait, don’t respond to it, just report it.

On another subject, a while back I saw that someone said that they considered Sora and Geno both more likely than Lara Croft. Why? I think people overestimate the Smash Fandoms echo chamber. If a globally known character like Lara is up for grabs with the presence that she has, a presence that is just as present in films why would they pass that up? So that begs the question, is Geno and Sora really more likely than Lara?

People are straight up sleeping on Lara's chances IMO. I wouldn't be all that surprised if she made it in, she's a western rep that has the benefit of being owned by a Japanese company, making negotiations a looooot easier than others.

She's probably in my top 3 most wanted SE reps. Haven't even played a Tomb Raider, but her legacy along with her being a big request from my brother would make her super cool.

 

[Shroob]

Lara's in that awkward spot where she's absolutely monumental to gaming as a whole

But like, basically no one in the Smash community talks about her, lol.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

No.

Hector
Celica
Ayumi
Rhythm Joe
Rex & Pyra
Decidueye
Lloyd

These choices would get me murdered, but it'd be worth it.

Octoling
Elma
bandanna dee

nobody else I want so I’m not spending any more

yeah I quoted the wrong post and I’m too lazy to fix it at this point

Since We've been getting Premium Costume every Pack since Banjo's, who are your 4 Premium Costume Predictions?

Hollow Knight
Ori
Monokuma
Gunvolt

if only cause I want certain music with em

 

[agamemenon]

Devil May Cry pro donguri did a long Tales of combo movie (he's done Vesperia and Beseria separately too.):

video about tales
begins with the goat, sunshine coastline from ys viii, instead of a track from the series being showcased

Is this a sign of things to come for Chadol?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Lara's in that awkward spot where she's absolutely monumental to gaming as a whole

But like, basically no one in the Smash community talks about her, lol.

That's because she's owned by Square Enix and pretty much every Square Enix character in existence gets overshadowed by Sora and Geno in the Smash echo chambers, no matter how relevant, popular or iconic they are.

Heck, Hero was also a very monumental character, since Dragon Quest revolutionized RPGs as a whole... but no one here talked about him until the "brave" datamine that happened some time around Ultimate's launch.

 

[Strife]

Lara's in that awkward spot where she's absolutely monumental to gaming as a whole

But like, basically no one in the Smash community talks about her, lol.

She's a woman that's not a waifu, so no one really loves her.
She is a gun wielder like, ZSS, Joker and Bayo but she unlike the other 3, she is just that and nothing more, so thematically she is very boring.
In addition her series is waaay pass its prime and isn't popular anymore, I think a lot of tat be blamed on a long span of poor quality games.
I honestly wouldn't mind her as that low key/banjo-esque rep of the pass but she is technically a square-enix character now and there are more exciting choices to choose from.

That's because she's owned by Square Enix and pretty much every Square Enix character in existence gets overshadowed by Sora and Geno in the Smash echo chambers, no matter how relevant, popular or iconic they are.

Heck, Hero was also a very monumental character, since Dragon Quest revolutionized RPGs as a whole... but no one here talked about him until the "brave" datamine that happened some time around Ultimate's launch.

People in Japan were always talking about Dragon Quest, its just America that didn't think of the DQ in smash because the game has never really been popular over here.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

If anyone wants to talk about her, her support thread could use some activity.

She also has a twitter support page.

The BBC game called Tomb Raider "one of the seven games that changed the world". We have to keep reminding people that it created the third person action adventure genre. Lara Croft's brand will live on forever, and that is because she is truly an icon. #SmashBros #TombRaider pic.twitter.com/Fv7G9oIgHx

— SmashLara • Tomb Raider News (@SmashLara) April 21, 2020

 

[Hadokeyblade]

That's because she's owned by Square Enix and pretty much every Square Enix character in existence gets overshadowed by Sora and Geno in the Smash echo chambers, no matter how relevant, popular or iconic they are.

Heck, Hero was also a very monumental character, since Dragon Quest revolutionized RPGs as a whole... but no one here talked about him until the "brave" datamine that happened some time around Ultimate's launch.

I personally didn't think Hero was coming because people would make the Dragon ball connection

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

People in Japan were always talking about Dragon Quest, its just America that didn't think of the DQ in smash because the game has never really been popular over here.

And most Smash speculators in the Internet aren't from Japan, so my point very much still stands.

Of course Japanese people would talk about DQ in Smash. That franchise is a cultural phenomenom over there.

 

[Digital Hazard]

That's because she's owned by Square Enix and pretty much every Square Enix character in existence gets overshadowed by Sora and Geno in the Smash echo chambers, no matter how relevant, popular or iconic they are.

Heck, Hero was also a very monumental character, since Dragon Quest revolutionized RPGs as a whole... but no one here talked about him until the "brave" datamine that happened some time around Ultimate's launch.

And first reactions to him that weren't to the RNG, were "yuck, animuh swordie" or "we don't need some dbz ripoffs"

She's a woman that's not a waifu, so no one really loves her.

What?

 

[Blargg888]

I know you probably don't care as much about gameplay stuff as I do, however:

Lucina wants to be in your face constantly and push buttons with impunity - her greatest strength is that she has Marth's range while not having to worry about Ultimate's lack of microspacing options. She has no reason to play defensive either either, since she is kind of vurnerable with her defensive game in turn. While Lucina thrives off of comboing (kinda unlike Marth), she also has a great advantage when the opponent's knocked back.

Yuri is not exactly this. Not only would he not share Marcina's attacks at all, he'd have much less emphasis on pure knockback (though his shoulder / elbow bashes and wolf-related attacks could accomplish this) and more on racking up damage. In particular, Yuri punches a lot; which is atypical for a swordie. Yuri would also come equipped with a couple keepaway options and a number of ways to extend the openings he gets.

Devil May Cry pro donguri did a long Tales of combo movie (he's done Vesperia and Beseria separately too.):

Honestly, a part of me wants Ludger in for gameplay reasons alone. Obviously, he's not getting in, but I'd love a character that could switch between dual guns, dual reverse-grip swords, and sledgehammer.

If we were to get a Tales character, it'd most likely be Lloyd, Yuri, or Velvet, and I'd be fine with that. But my favorite will always be Xillia.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

And first reactions to him that weren't to the RNG, were "yuck, animuh swordie" or "we don't need some dbz ripoffs"

We didn't even know about the RNG back when they were revealed.

 

[cashregister9]

She's a woman that's not a waifu, so no one really loves her.

Clearly you haven't seen enough PS1 advertising from the late 90's-Early 00's

I'm not going to post any pictures but there are several ads where the main focus is "Lara Croft Naked how cool XD" so someone somewhere clearly thinks otherwise.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

What?

I think he made his point perfectly clear.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

She's a woman that's not a waifu, so no one really loves her.

And yet she got several ads based on her sex appeal, a good chunk of movies, a reboot franchise of games that did fairly well and is arguably one of the most cosplayed gaming characters of all time.

That's pretty impressive for someone who, according to your opinion, shouldn't be considered a waifu, don't you think?

 

[Mamboo07]

You all talking about Lara Croft?

I would like to see her in Smash, she's so iconic but it's a shame no one talks about her.

 

[Lamperouge]

If Lara does manage to get in, I hope we can choose between her classic outfit and her more modern appearance.

 

[Strife]

I'm not gonna respond to everyone, but being sexy and being a waifu is not the same thing., IE no one wants to marry her. Moreover at the height of her popularity, graphics were so bad that sex appealed hardly mattered.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

She's a woman that's not a waifu, so no one really loves her.

Isn't she, like, one of the most famous sex symbols of all time for gaming? Like literally the Wonder Woman of video games alongside Samus?

She is a gun wielder like, ZSS, Joker and Bayo but she unlike the other 3, she is just that and nothing more, so thematically she is very boring.

She also has bows and arrows, grappling hooks, explosives, superhuman physical abilities, extensive training in martial arts, and more. Like, literally even the smallest amount of research shows she's far more than just a simple gun user.

In addition her series is waaay pass its prime and isn't popular anymore, I think a lot of tat be blamed on a long span of poor quality games.

She literally had a game release in 2018 that sold more than 4 million copies, which is a heck of a lot better than a lot of the franchises in Smash, even among 3rd Parties.