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King Sonnn DeDeDoo

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Alright here's the next 3rd party Spirit Board I've made, this time it's Sega's Valkyria Chronicles! (aka Fire Emblem WW2)


This time I'll spoiler it since some of the images are rather large.

Welkin
Fighter::ultrobin:Blue alt (:ultfox: Allies)
Spirit Battle Conditions:
1. The Enemy has Super Armor but moves slower
2. Reinforcements will appear during the battle (3 foxes)
3. Enemy favors Special attacks
Stage: Reset Bomb Forest (First Section only)
Music: Space Battleground
Spirit Type: Support
Rank: Novice

Alicia
Fighter: :ultdaisy: Blue Alt.
Spirit Battle Conditions:
1. The enemy has increased attack power at high health
2. The enemy has increased defense at high health
3. The enemy has increased movement speed at high health
Stage: Paper Mario (Windmill section)
Music: One of A Kind
Spirit Type: Neutral
Rank: Advanced

Selvaria
Fighter: :ultlucina: Red alt.
Spirit Battle Conditions:
1. Certain items will appear in large numbers (Daybreaker)
2. Items gravitate towards enemy
3. The enemy is reflective
Stage: Halberd
Music: The Legend of Aesir
Spirit Type: Attack
Rank: Ace

Crymaria
Fighter: :ultpalutena: Purple/Cyan Alt. (:ulticeclimbers: and :ultwolf: allies)
Spirit Battle Conditions:
1. Reinforcements appear during the battle
2. The Enemy will occasional become invincible
3. The Enemy can unleash powerful critical hits at random
Stage: Summit (Battlefield form)
Music: Destroyed Skyworld
Spirit Type: Defensive
Rank: Legendary
 
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Alright here's the next 3rd party Spirit Board I've made, this time it's Sega's Valkyria Chronicles! (aka Fire Emblem WW2)


This time I'll spoiler it since some of the images are rather large.

Welkin
Fighter::ultrobin:Blue alt (:ultfox: Allies)
Spirit Battle Conditions:
1. The Enemy has Super Armor but moves slower
2. Reinforcements will appear during the battle (3 foxes)
3. Enemy favors Special attacks
Stage: Reset Bomb Forest (First Section only)
Music: Space Battleground
Spirit Type: Support
Rank: Novice

Alicia
Fighter: :ultdaisy: Blue Alt.
Spirit Battle Conditions:
1. The enemy has increased attack power at high health
2. The enemy has increased defense at high health
3. The enemy has increased movement speed at high health
Stage: Paper Mario (Windmill section)
Music: One of A Kind
Spirit Type: Neutral
Rank: Advanced

Selvaria
Fighter: :ultlucina: Red alt.
Spirit Battle Conditions:
1. Certain items will appear in large numbers (Daybreaker)
2. Items gravitate towards enemy
3. The enemy is reflective
Stage: Halberd
Music: The Legend of Aesir
Spirit Type: Attack
Rank: Ace

Crymaria
Fighter: :ultpalutena: Purple/Cyan Alt. (:ulticeclimbers: and :ultwolf: allies)
Spirit Battle Conditions:
1. Reinforcements appear during the battle
2. The Enemy will occasional become invincible
3. The Enemy can unleash powerful critical hits at random
Stage: Summit (Battlefield form)
Music: Destroyed Skyworld
Spirit Type: Defensive
Rank: Legendary
Oh, I like how you chose Palutena for the latter spirit battle.
 
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Who cares what is the best Nintendo game of the 10s?

What matters in the end is that we do indeed have a wonderful and great time with the Nintendo games of the 10s, all while letting each one of us enjoy the games they like.
 

Hadokeyblade

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Alright here's the next 3rd party Spirit Board I've made, this time it's Sega's Valkyria Chronicles! (aka Fire Emblem WW2)


This time I'll spoiler it since some of the images are rather large.

Welkin
Fighter::ultrobin:Blue alt (:ultfox: Allies)
Spirit Battle Conditions:
1. The Enemy has Super Armor but moves slower
2. Reinforcements will appear during the battle (3 foxes)
3. Enemy favors Special attacks
Stage: Reset Bomb Forest (First Section only)
Music: Space Battleground
Spirit Type: Support
Rank: Novice

Alicia
Fighter: :ultdaisy: Blue Alt.
Spirit Battle Conditions:
1. The enemy has increased attack power at high health
2. The enemy has increased defense at high health
3. The enemy has increased movement speed at high health
Stage: Paper Mario (Windmill section)
Music: One of A Kind
Spirit Type: Neutral
Rank: Advanced

Selvaria
Fighter: :ultlucina: Red alt.
Spirit Battle Conditions:
1. Certain items will appear in large numbers (Daybreaker)
2. Items gravitate towards enemy
3. The enemy is reflective
Stage: Halberd
Music: The Legend of Aesir
Spirit Type: Attack
Rank: Ace

Crymaria
Fighter: :ultpalutena: Purple/Cyan Alt. (:ulticeclimbers: and :ultwolf: allies)
Spirit Battle Conditions:
1. Reinforcements appear during the battle
2. The Enemy will occasional become invincible
3. The Enemy can unleash powerful critical hits at random
Stage: Summit (Battlefield form)
Music: Destroyed Skyworld
Spirit Type: Defensive
Rank: Legendary
I love this, the Valkiria chronicles games were some of the best games I've tried out this year.

I would have suggested using claude as a spirit instead of Crymaria but I guess it would be too similar to Welkin.
 

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If you could get a playable Villain added to the roster from a series already in Smash, whod you choose?

Its a tie for me between Robotnik and Grunty.
If you count the whole FF serie, I want Emet Selch, the best villain FF ever had.
 
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best nintendo games of the 10s is botw and everyone who disagrees with me is wrong and bad and should feel bad because i am right like i always am
 

King Sonnn DeDeDoo

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I love this, the Valkiria chronicles games were some of the best games I've tried out this year.

I would have suggested using claude as a spirit instead of Crymaria but I guess it would be too similar to Welkin.
Yeah I couldn't come up with anything interesting with Claude and I thought it would be better to focus on the Valkyria themselves since they're pretty unique. I thought about having a Riley spirit battle with the random falling bomb-ombs condition to simulate the grenadier class.
 
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best nintendo games of the 10s is botw and everyone who disagrees with me is wrong and bad and should feel bad because i am right like i always am
Are you sure about that, Faygo?

 
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If you count the whole FF serie, I want Emet Selch, the best villain FF ever had.
Emet-Selch runs into the same problem Ryne has to an even greater extent.
You can't do anything meaningful with him without spoiling major revelations from XIV (and Shadowbringers in particular).

If it weren't for that, I'd love to see him get in.
Plus, we'd get Who Brings Shadow, along with potentially one other great FFXIV song! >_>

Though we all know they'd go with the yandere princeling anyway. :-/
 
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Hadokeyblade

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Yeah I couldn't come up with anything interesting with Claude and I thought it would be better to focus on the Valkyria themselves since they're pretty unique. I thought about having a Riley spirit battle with the random falling bomb-ombs condition to simulate the grenadier class.
That sounds neat.
 
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Alright how about some spirit board ideas? Inspired by the Resident Evil spirit board that shocked us all, I thought about making my own hypothetical 3rd party Spirit boards. I'm gonna make a few more and I Invite others to make Spirits of their favorite franchises as well, it's actually a lot of fun.
Eh, what the heck, this seems fun. Let's go impossible:


Madoka
Fighters: :ultzelda: (pink alt), :ultpalutena: (default, giant)
Spirit Battle Conditions:
  • Defeat main fighter to win (Zelda)
  • Enemy tends to avoid conflict
  • Enemy's FS Meter charges quickly
  • (Not listed) Palutena spawns after 30 seconds
Stage: Wrecking Crew (BF)
Music: Connect Psycho Soldier Theme
Spirit Type: Shield
Rank: Ace


Homura

Fighters: :ultrobinf:(x3), :ultsnake:(x2) (white alt)
Spirit Battle Conditions:
  • Enemy starts with a Super Scope
  • Enemy's FS Meter charges quickly
  • (Not listed) Fighters are fought one at a time, Snake spawns when all Robins are defeated
Stage: Umbra Clock Tower
Music: Magia Rivers in the Desert
Spirit Type: Attack
Rank: Advanced


Sayaka & Kyoko & Mami
Fighters: :ultlucina: (default), :ultcorrinf:(pink alt), :ultzss:(orange alt)
Spirit Battle Conditions:
  • Enemy's FS Meter charges quickly
  • Enemy's melee weapons have increased power
  • Enemy's ranged weapons have increased power
Stage: Fourside
Music: Venari Strigas Out Of Time
Spirit Type: Support (Weapon Damage Up)
Rank: Novice


Kyubey
Fighters: :ultpikachu:(Calem hat, small)
Spirit Battle Conditions:
  • The enemy heals when at critical health
  • You constantly take minor damage
Stage: Final Destination
Music: Sis Puella Magica! Destroyed Skyworld
Spirit Type: Support (Stamina Up)
Rank: Novice

Would absolutely never happen.
 
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The best Nintendo game of the 10s.
Uprising was really good. Put countless hours replaying its missions...

But I put more hours into playing--and replaying--Fire Emblem Awakening. As a result, I say Awakening is probably my favorite game of the decade. The amount of tools at your disposal allows for you to play the game however you want, and the different difficulties require you to create different strategies altogether instead of just playing more defensively. My last run was a no-reset, no-pairup, limited supports of the normal mode, and it actually engaged me to a fair degree. It just shows me what I can still do new things with the game even if it's over 5 years old now.

Shame I can't like its story anymore. The more I compare it to other Fire Emblem games, the more flaws I see in it. It's not bad, but it doesn't really take the idea of war as seriously as other games given there is a total of three of them in the span of like 3 or 4 years. That, and one of them isn't even important to the overall plot of preventing a bad future.
 
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Will, from the Illusion of Gaia/Time. He definitely looks like he could be in Smash Bros and would be an interesting choice in my opinion.
 

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Uprising was really good. Put countless hours replaying its missions...

But I put more hours into playing--and replaying--Fire Emblem Awakening. As a result, I say Awakening is probably my favorite game of the decade. The amount of tools at your disposal allows for you to play the game however you want, and the different difficulties require you to create different strategies altogether instead of just playing more defensively.

Shame I can't like its story anymore. The more I compare it to other Fire Emblem games, the more flaws I see in it. It's not bad, but it doesn't really take the idea of war as seriously as other games given there is a total of three of them in the span of like 3 or 4 years. That, and one of them isn't even important to the overall plot of preventing a bad future.
I definitely love Awakening as well. It's a great game. I think the story is fine and enjoyable in general, specially the beginning and the end. I kind of agree with you that the story isn't specially great, but I don't think it's bad by any means, or at least not worst than some previous FE installments, excluding of course the Tellius games.
 

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pick a DOOM song. it'll be better than all the ones posted before... except the kid Icarus ones, I love my baby angel bois too much to deny them 1st place.
 

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I'm really loving these spirit boards for series that are probably not getting in. I'd love to see more series' added like that, provided they don't hurt like Resi.
 
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I'm really loving these spirit boards for series that are probably not getting in. I'd love to see more series' added like that, provided they don't hurt like Resi.
Series such as Alex Kidd for example.
 

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Emet-Selch runs into the same problem Ryne has to an even greater extent.
You can't do anything meaningful with him without spoiling major revelations from XIV (and Shadowbringers in particular).

If it weren't for that, I'd love to see him get in.
Plus, we'd get Who Brings Shadow, along with potentially one other great FFXIV song! >_>

Though we all know they'd go with the yandere princeling anyway. :-/
You are totally right on everything you said, but the question wasn't if he was doable. Of course, our "best friend" would be the bad guy.

If it wasn't for a baddie, I would like to have a class changer derplander with multiracial alts.
 

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The spirits all hurt. Some of them just hurt more than others.

I sense something happening this week. Idek why.
 

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For me the best Nintendo game of the 10s is probably Rhythm Heaven Fever (2011).
Not sure though...

I also loved Kirby Triple Deluxe, I replayed countless times the levels (often quitting before Hypernova), occasionally with self imposed challenges such as no damage or stick with an ability or even use only one move. The level design of that game is great, and artistically it's a masterpiece; Hypernova gets old very fast but occasionally replaying those sections feels good, all those bosses such as the ghost, the four dragons, and the waddle dee tower. Not to mention Kirby Fighters, it was my favorite time killer before Smash 3DS came out, and occasionally I still do some matches (though it's really unbalanced and the CPU is unfair). My only issue is that in Royal Road the game starts to become boring... level design becomes less inspired, and all the random teleports and old content rehashed really ruin the experience to me... else it would have been my favorite Nintendo game of the 10s (but all the modern Kirby games have this issue).
 

King Sonnn DeDeDoo

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It will be Kingdom Hearts to build up hype for Darth Vader.
This reminds me of how much fun Darth Vader was in SCIV, his moves looked so cool in that game.
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I understand it would be rather hard to design a fighting game around Lightsabers and keep their authentic lethality, but I wish there was a competent Star Wars fighting game, Jedi Outcast is the closest we've gotten to it.
 

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I just picked Bewear because he's a literal sentient stuffed animal, so I thought it fit.

I honestly forgot Alolan Raichu was even a thing. lol
Oh, I never knew that about Bewear. That explains it then lol

Plus his uppercut looks a lot like Shiki's too.
 

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The spirits all hurt. Some of them just hurt more than others.

I sense something happening this week. Idek why.
Again, if we don't get any news of an incoming Direct by the end of Tuesday, our next best bet is the Game Awards. I don't think we'll be getting any sort of Direct on Friday or Saturday, since also I don't think Directs usually happen on those days... though I certainly wouldn't mind if that actually ended up happening for once.
 
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