Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[ze9]

Considering how they removed "Brave" once it became clear that had been found out, I highly doubt that they'd be so careless to leave something like this again.

Though here's a fun discussion topic for everyone here: Which potential newcomers do you think would have which code name?

I for one could see "law"/"lawyer" for Phoenix Wright, "sun" for Amaterasu, or "mech" for Elma.

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[Hadokeyblade]

Though here's a fun discussion topic for everyone here: Which potential newcomers do you think would have which code name?

I for one could see "law"/"lawyer" for Phoenix Wright, "sun" for Amaterasu, or "mech" for Elma.

Digi for Agumon
Hikari for Sora
Puzzle for Professor Layton
Ninja for Hayabusa
Spin for Crash

There's none that I'm aware of since they probably stepped up their game after Brave got leaked, but Banjo-Kazooie's codename was revealed to be Buddy. Had that codename been leaked on the same time as Jack and Brave, the speculation scene would've probably jumped all over the place on it.

"Its a boy and his blob! I'm calling it now!"
Is how I see that going.

 

[TheYungLink]

“Mary” for KOS-MOS
“Prize” for Bandana Dee
“Bull” for Black Shadow
“Deepsea” for Octolings (taken from the Deepsea Metro from Octo Expansion)

"gonzales" for Paper Mario

 

[Hadokeyblade]

MKHT's template is fantastic! I made a couple of these myself using it!

Is there a website or something you can make these on?

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

Is there a website or something you can make these on?

It's no website, MKHT has the template on his Twitter but I had to make the rest in Paint.net. The font is Arial Black for most of the text.

 

[Wunderwaft]

Considering how they removed "Brave" once it became clear that had been found out, I highly doubt that they'd be so careless to leave something like this again.

Though here's a fun discussion topic for everyone here: Which potential newcomers do you think would have which code name?

I for one could see "law"/"lawyer" for Phoenix Wright, "sun" for Amaterasu, or "mech" for Elma.

Space = Doomguy
Dragon = Ryu Hayabusa
Purple = Waluigi
Diamond = Steve
Spirit = Reimu

 

[Opossum]

Code name shenanigans, huh? Neat.


For Edelgard they'd probably go for either Eagle or Emperor depending on how on the nose they want to be.

Crash could be Spin.

 

[Deleted member]

Though here's a fun discussion topic for everyone here: Which potential newcomers do you think would have which code name?

Codenames aren't easy to think of, but I'll put some on here for fun.
"Razor" for Ryu Hayabusa (if both "Dragon" and "Ninja" are already taken)
"Terror" for Nightmare
"Charge" for Zhao Yun or Yukimura (was thinking "Warrior" but that might give it away)
"Care" for Cooking Mama ("Chef" could probably be another codename too)
"Roll" for Aiai
"Phone" for Jacket
"Agent" for Francis York Morgan
"Mayhem" for Doom Slayer

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

Roll or Clump = Prince of All Cosmos
Crate = Crash
Shout = Dragonborn
Soldier = Quote
Blossom = Reimu
Kindle = Chosen Undead
Hover = Dr. Robotnik/Eggman
Ponytail = Dixie Kong
Bugs = Louie

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Two more:

“Dancing” for Shantae
“Noise” for Neku

 

[SneakyLink]

Codenames huh?
Shantae = Ponytail
Steve = Block
Heavy = Bear
Ryu H. = Ninja
Doomguy = Marine
Master Chief = Spartan
Sora = Key
Agitha = Bugs
Volleyball Player = Sport
Mach Rider = Biker
Edward Richtofen = ZeDoc
Asha = Pepe
Reimu = Maiden
Otto Matic = Pangea
Carmen Sandiego = Thief

Basically what the codenames for my personal top 15 would be.

 

[Akg0001]

Yes the 16 placeholder slots would indeed fill up the entire character select screen. It would look something like this.


Now wether Sakurai would actually go that far, or maybe even beyond (if he can), who knows, only time will tell I guess....

Also with that many characters Squad Smash will look perfect too!

 

[SKX31]

So codenames. Hmm:

Apple = Ezio
Temple = Lara Croft
Wish = Geno
Biplane = Tracer
Akuma / Devil = Kazuya or Jin
Hand = Isaac
Destiny = Sora
Pinball = Waluigi
Orb = Ahri (LoL)
Ragna / Laguna = Lina (Dota 2)

 

[♕Pretty Roger♕]

Have dataminers found another character evidence like "Brave" ou "Jack" in version 5.0?

Not in 5.0, but codename "Jane" was datamined with Joker and probably will play out sooner or later, and the most likely character for that codename is Kasumi from P5R, Sakurai probably realised they could just sell her as her own thing instead of an alt around P5R's International release or P5S's release (i don't get why people think they would add a file and a codename and then just scrap the idea, we know smash plans things way in advance)

 

[cothero]

Considering how they removed "Brave" once it became clear that had been found out, I highly doubt that they'd be so careless to leave something like this again.

Though here's a fun discussion topic for everyone here: Which potential newcomers do you think would have which code name?

I for one could see "law"/"lawyer" for Phoenix Wright, "sun" for Amaterasu, or "mech" for Elma.

Well, they should've learnet the lesson since Sm4sh when Roy and Ryu were datamined before they were announced. But i think you're right.

 

[Playstation Guy 1000]

Codenames. I can of some codenames:
Glide = Spyro
Fists = Rayman
Trigger = Dante
Evolve = Agumon
Money = Conker
Digging = Steve
Dagger = Ezio

 

[YoshiandToad]

Considering how they removed "Brave" once it became clear that had been found out, I highly doubt that they'd be so careless to leave something like this again.

Though here's a fun discussion topic for everyone here: Which potential newcomers do you think would have which code name?

I for one could see "law"/"lawyer" for Phoenix Wright, "sun" for Amaterasu, or "mech" for Elma.

Hat: Bandana Waddle Dee
Sitter: Dixie Kong
Sage: Impa
Wind: Vaati
Earth: Isaac
Fire: Spyro
Water: Cuphead
Light: Captain Toad
Darkness: Waluigi
Clean: Chibi-Robo
Tornado: Tails
Tomb: Lara Croft
Baby: Heavy
Crate: Crash
Africa: Chris Redfield
Unlock: Jill Valentine

 

[cothero]

Codenames. I can of some codenames:
Glide = Spyro
Fists = Rayman
Trigger = Dante
Evolve = Agumon
Money = Conker
Digging = Steve
Dagger = Ezio

Have anyone ever considered Ezio as a possible candidate? Cuz i think he has a decent chance.

 

[RouffWestie]

Ratchet & Clank = gadget
Tom Nook = tanuki
Megaman.EXE = hub
Creeper = hisssss
Tap Dancer = giraffe
Karate Joe = pots
Filia = amnesia
Tetris Dancer = four
Red Dragon Caller Sonia = rem

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Ratchet & Clank = gadget
Tom Nook = tanuki
Megaman.EXE = hub
Creeper = hisssss
Tap Dancer = giraffe
Karate Joe = pots
Filia = amnesia
Tetris Dancer = four
Red Dragon Caller Sonia = rem

Personally think a better codename for Creeper would be “awman”

I’ll see myself out.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Not in 5.0, but codename "Jane" was datamined with Joker and probably will play out sooner or later, and the most likely character for that codename is Kasumi from P5R, Sakurai probably realised they could just sell her as her own thing instead of an alt around P5R's International release or P5S's release (i don't get why people think they would add a file and a codename and then just scrap the idea, we know smash plans things way in advance)

Wasn't Jane the one with the ponytail in the data, which we now know belongs to Terry?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Wasn't Jane the one with the ponytail in the data, which we now know belongs to Terry?

Why would Terry be in Joker’s string, though? Terry doesn’t even have a gun or knife

 

[GoodGrief741]

Wasn't Jane the one with the ponytail in the data, which we now know belongs to Terry?

Pretty sure the ponytail found in Joker's files has nothing to do with Terry.

 

[andree123]

Not in 5.0, but codename "Jane" was datamined with Joker and probably will play out sooner or later, and the most likely character for that codename is Kasumi from P5R, Sakurai probably realised they could just sell her as her own thing instead of an alt around P5R's International release or P5S's release (i don't get why people think they would add a file and a codename and then just scrap the idea, we know smash plans things way in advance)

I personally think that "jane" seems to be closer to Terry than to Kasumi.

 

[OrpheusTelos]

So I guess we're doing codenames. I didn't wanna make any of these too obvious because I'd still want to keep the mystery if they were found, so I'm sorry if some of these are a little esoteric

Jill = Star
Geno = Wish
Sora = Sky
Travis = Neat
Steve = Terra
Crash = Guinea
Kiryu = Dragon
Lloyd = Oracle
Frisk = Resolve
Layton = Chivalry
2B = Reboot

 

[MainJPW]

Pretty sure the ponytail found in Joker's files has nothing to do with Terry.

It doesn't, Vaanrose said it was directly referenced as a costume file connected to Joker.

 

[TheCJBrine]

Codenames:

Geno = star
Steve = craft
Creeper = kamikaze
Herobrine = legend
Cuphead = toon
Gengar = shadow (or haunt, since there's a hedgehog)
King Boo = ghost
Toad = mushroom
Raichu = sparky
Team Rocket (Meowth, Jessie & James) = trouble
Wurmple = worm
Skull Kid = masked
Midna = imp
Porky = porksoup
Ninten = primeribs
Chorus Kids = club
Mallow = tadpole
Papyrus = great
Sans = comic
Frisk = check
Shantae = hair
Isaac = earth
Goomba = shiitake
Chibi-Robo = clean
Reimu = bullet
Ashley = magic
Wood Man = nice

 

[DarthEnderX]

Weird question but is Iron man really that popular in the context of Smash? The only 4 party that I see people asking are Goku (and sometimes other anime characters), Shrek and Spongebob (the last two are clearly memes). I actually never saw anyone talking about Iron man in Smash aside from Sakurai himself. Is he like more popular in Japan or something?

He's not a popular request in the Smash community, no. But he said:

"I get a lot of requests, even from overseas, asking when their beloved Iron Man or when their beloved Goku are going to get into Smash, but I really have to stress that this is a game celebration," said Sakurai. "It has to focus on characters whose origins are in games."

So I'm guessing he's getting these Iron Man requests from western fans that aren't part of the Smash community.

Which potential newcomers do you think would have which code name?

"Falcon" - Ryu Hayabusa
"Alex" - Kunio

 

[Deathlightning21]

Considering how they removed "Brave" once it became clear that had been found out, I highly doubt that they'd be so careless to leave something like this again.

Though here's a fun discussion topic for everyone here: Which potential newcomers do you think would have which code name?

I for one could see "law"/"lawyer" for Phoenix Wright, "sun" for Amaterasu, or "mech" for Elma.

Plain = Lyndis
Lion = Dimitri
Deer = Claude
Eagle = Edlegard
Prof = Byleth
Shiekah = Impa

 

[andree123]

Since you guys are making so many codenames ideas in this thread, I made a thread for it.

 

[ROBnWatch]

Porky = porksoup

Spankety.

Or, more realistically, pig, king, or empire.

 

[perfectchaos83]

Not in 5.0, but codename "Jane" was datamined with Joker and probably will play out sooner or later, and the most likely character for that codename is Kasumi from P5R, Sakurai probably realised they could just sell her as her own thing instead of an alt around P5R's International release or P5S's release (i don't get why people think they would add a file and a codename and then just scrap the idea, we know smash plans things way in advance)

The problem is that Jane was 100% tied to Joker. There's no debating that. It could have been Kasumi when Atlus wasn't 100% sure on what her role was going to be and Sakurai toyed with the idea of her being an alt. It would have been scrapped later on after Kasumi's role was realized to be nothing like Joker. This is the absolute simplest explanation. Trying to tie it to a future character is just a bit silly

 

[TheCJBrine]

Spankety.

Or, more realistically, pig, king, or empire.

I thought about pig, king, or spanking, and I initially put ruler, but I decided to put porksoup to go along with the EarthBound humor and Ninten.

 

[Aetheri]

Possible codenames? Alright...

Midna - Cursed
Impa - Eye
Skull Kid - Moon
Lara Croft - Shades
Jill Valentine - Sandwich
Tifa - Dolphin
Sephiroth - Mother
Elma - Cat
Rex - Shield
Crash - Jeans
Spyro - Egg
Shantae - Dance
Agumon - Grey
Geno - Heart
Steve - Foundation
Master Chief - Hammer

 

[Sysreq]

Possible codenames? Alright...

Midna - Cursed
Impa - Eye
Skull Kid - Moonppppp
Lara Croft - Shades
Jill Valentine - Sandwich
Tifa - Dolphin
Sephiroth - Mother
Elma - Cat
Rex - Shield
Crash - Jeans
Spyro - Egg
Shantae - Dance
Agumon - Grey
Geno - Heart
Steve - Foundation
Master Chief - Hammer

I like your list of codenames. Most of them are tenuous enough not to be completely obvious at first glance, but once you see the character associated you think "oh right, I can see why that fits".

 

[Aetheri]

I like your list of codenames. Most of them are tenuous enough not to be completely obvious at first glance, but once you see the character associated you think "oh right, I can see why that fits".

That's how it should be...The point is so it's not too obvious. Like if you say "Key" for Sora, many people will go "Hrmm...Is it Sora?" (I should mention I'm not throwing shade at anyone that picked Key for Sora was just an example)

I still think some of them are a bit obvious like Skull Kid's and Shantae's, but what can you do?

 

[KatKit]

Clutch =

Spoiler

 

[N3ON]

Sakurai throwing us under the bus as if Japan doesn't ask for Goku just as much if not more. They ask for more anime characters than we do!

We're just ***** about it. That's why we get messages to stop pestering him and they don't.

So I get it Sakurai.

 

[TheYungLink]

The closest thing we have to an anime character playable in Smash is Mewtwo, whose personality in the Japanese version of Melee was very closely based on the Japanese version of Pokémon: The First Movie. They also use Shadow Ball, which isn't a Psychic type move, but Mewtwo's anime movie incarnation is the first Pokémon to ever use the move Shadow Ball in any Pokémon media, so it's associated with Mewtwo in Smash.

Other Pokémon have elements that call back to the anime (Smash 4 and Ultimate Lucario use Lucario's VA from their movie, Smash Ultimate Greninja now uses the kunai the anime depicts them using attacks with instead of the Smash original water katanas) besides the anime trope of "their names are the only thing they can say", but Mewtwo is seemingly a special case.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Ooh! I know a good code name!

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S.T.E.A.M.