Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Deleted member]

I'm sorry I had to suspend my leave. Because this thing showed up and I have some words.

https://twitter.com/Jabwarrior1/status/1183617819080101888

Thoughts on this? I gave this a try myself and can verify that it's real.

I could say it's only two: Doomguy or Jill. Least probable is Morrigan.

 

[TheCJBrine]

https://twitter.com/Jabwarrior1/status/1183617819080101888

Thoughts on this? I gave this a try myself and can verify that it's real.

Another person got the same result when trying the other DLC spaces on an earlier version of the site (using the Wayback machine); it’s just using Plant’s color as a placeholder.

 

[Deleted member]

Another person got the same result when trying the other DLC spaces on an earlier version of the site (using the Wayback machine); it’s just using Plant’s color as a placeholder.

Oh...so...no newcomer then.

 

[NoOtherPersona]

what did the thing say

 

[GoodGrief741]

You know what? That's fair enough. I think you could have some fun with time manipulation and add in some cool abilities, but I won't deny that she is made to be the sort of more standard character in Overwatch properly.


Unrelated to you, but how do people feel about Sakurai's ideas for this overall "museum of Japanese gaming" or whatever? We're actually getting close to having most of that filled out. Resident Evil at 92 million copies sold is the biggest Japanese franchise not in the game, then Monster Hunter at 54 million, and then Tekken at 48 million before a bigger drop (I will point out that Tomb Raider is actually the second biggest not in at 74 million, but she started as a Western character... so I'm not quite counting her). I know those franchises don't always excite people, but I find it really impressive how much ground Sakurai has already covered and how many of the big name companies are in.

If you got those three in, got in a couple of the other bigger franchises like Souls and Tales, added in Koei Tecmo, Arc System Works, and maybe like Falcom, and then got in personalities like Yako Taro and Suda 51 in the game through 2B and Travis, you'd have virtually gotten everything majorly Japanese related in the game across the industry. It's amazing we're already doing as well as we are with such things to be honest, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Sakurai go for a lot of these... and honestly, it would just be really cool.

I'd be down with all those franchises (maybe Falcom is a bit too niche), but I'm saddened that there's no mention of Level-5 or Layton there.

Games classified as JRPGs can range anywhere from Nier Automata: a hack n slash/shoot 'em up, to a survival horror game like Parasite Eve, to a dungeon crawling/social sim/visual novel like Persona 4, to an open world exploration game with MMO mechanics and transforming flying robots like Xenoblade X. They can be so radically different from each other at times, I wouldn't even complain if we got another one.

After all these years someone finally mentions Parasite Eve. Now I can finally rest.

I've only ever played LBP 3 so I'm an idiot on the subject. ARe the other LBPs any good?

Also why does everyone think we're getting a second pass? It seems like a bit much, no?

Oh the first 2 are much better so if you liked 3 then get your hands on them.

But given that companies always go with their most iconic characters/mascots its more likely to be Kratos, Nathan Drake or Sackboy. I'd love to see Kat but I don't see her getting chosen over those three.

LBP is super dead though.

Only thing I know about Kat is that she looks absolutely stylin in the 2B costume.


So yeah, I don't see Kratos or Nathan Drake wearing this, so clearly there's no contest here.

Very closeminded of you, I can picture Kratos and Drake rocking that dress just fine.

Except Banjo hasn't always been Microsoft. Doesn't count.

And Kat above Kratos? I knew Gravity Rush was popular but not THAT popular damn to be above God of War. Whelp nevermind then.

Gravity Rush is like the game that very few people play but those who do love it. But yeah, it's a no-contest against most Sony franchises.

Nintendo fans would probably love both God of War and Gravity Rush though.

 

[TheYungLink]

Pokefloats and uhhh I guess Garchomp I guess.

And if he doesn't count because Pokefloats is only gen 2 pokemon, I guess give me Scizor instead.

WHERE THE HELL IS POKEFLOATS SAKURAI.

I guess I'd say... uh.. Rotom or something lol. I'm not a huge supporter of more Pokemon but I would like another Legendady on the roster.

For me personally, instead of having Poké Floats back, I would rather they make a new Poké Floats stage with new Pokémon models floating in another void.

As for a Pokémon I genuinely want if I need to name one for Poké Floats from Melee returning, I have personally wanted Raichu for a long time. They'd be the Ganondorf to Pikachu's Captain Falcon, so they'd be slower, harder hitting, and heavier. Give Raichu Smash 64 Pikachu's back aerial while we're at it.

 

[SKX31]

Unrelated to you, but how do people feel about Sakurai's ideas for this overall "museum of Japanese gaming" or whatever? We're actually getting close to having most of that filled out. Resident Evil at 92 million copies sold is the biggest Japanese franchise not in the game, then Monster Hunter at 54 million, and then Tekken at 48 million before a bigger drop (I will point out that Tomb Raider is actually the second biggest not in at 74 million, but she started as a Western character... so I'm not quite counting her). I know those franchises don't always excite people, but I find it really impressive how much ground Sakurai has already covered and how many of the big name companies are in.

If you got those three in, got in a couple of the other bigger franchises like Souls and Tales, added in Koei Tecmo, Arc System Works, and maybe like Falcom, and then got in personalities like Yako Taro and Suda 51 in the game through 2B and Travis, you'd have virtually gotten everything majorly Japanese related in the game across the industry. It's amazing we're already doing as well as we are with such things to be honest, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Sakurai go for a lot of these... and honestly, it would just be really cool.

I would def. like it, I'm just not sure how likely it is? Those you listed are practically all viable Japanese companies (unless Sony despite the odds reaches out. I don't think they're unreachable when it comes to Smash because of the MGS4 promotion in Brawl, just very difficult), and I'd not be surprised if other companies outside of Japan (including Tencent here since I think they have a decent shot) also talked with Nintendo / Sakurai. The Half-Life Tactics rumors for example had some legs on it, since the thought that Sakurai might have wanted Gordon is not a stretch.

Still, Japan likely keeps the majority, if not lion's share of DLC newcomers, Not having to deal with translators etc. is a boon of course. What I'm saying is, I doubt Smash will be just a "museum of Japanese gaming" as Diddy, K. Rool, Dark Samus and B-K prove.

I still stand behind my guess of 3-4 additional characters born outside of Japan. Perhaps even a character or two unknown to Japanese audiences. That number does rise if Sakurai goes for broke and reaches for more, perhaps that insane 100 characters mark.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

I seriously think we're underestimating Lara's chances. Sure, Tomb Raider started out as a Western series but it's kind of hard to ignore the fact that she has 3 movies, an upcoming movie, more Guiness World records than Mario himself, is without a doubt the most iconic female character in gaming, and is owned by a Japanese company in Square-Enix.

There's always the possibility that Sakurai just ignores all this and just looks at her as Another Western Shooter Character but it's also possible that he knows exactly how critical of a character she is worldwide and goes out of his way to get the most iconic Female in gaming in his gaming icon fighting game.

By the way, is there any data to suggest that Tomb Raider IS completely unknown over in Japan? I've heard that the series, film and games, is pretty DAMN worldwide.

 

[SKX31]

I seriously think we're underestimating Lara's chances. Sure, Tomb Raider started out as a Western series but it's kind of hard to ignore the fact that she has 3 movies, an upcoming movie, more Guiness World records than Mario himself, is without a doubt the most iconic female character in gaming, and is owned by a Japanese company in Square-Enix.

There's always the possibility that Sakurai just ignores all this and just looks at her as Another Western Shooter Character but it's also possible that he knows exactly how critical of a character she is worldwide and goes out of his way to get the most iconic Female in gaming in his gaming icon fighting game.

By the way, is there any data to suggest that Tomb Raider IS completely unknown over in Japan? I've heard that the series, film and games, is pretty DAMN worldwide.

*Does some quick googling and research into this*

Well, both Rise of and Shadow of the Tomb Raider did pretty well over there. Of course, both examples are only week 1, but I find it notable that Shadow of did better than its predecessor Rise of. The Angelina Jolie movie also did really well over there, and its numbers in Japan are comparable to Detective Pikachu's.

It's reasonable to say that Lara's not completely unknown in Japan.

 

[Ayumi Tachibana]

MC: We have a new information to share!
Sakurai grins.
MC: Smash SP will be the main stage tournament for EVO Japan!
Sakurai: Wowowow wait wait here a sec, I mean that is a very pleasing news but look at the cloud here, they were totally expecting the next new fighter announcement! That baiting was just... (looks at the cloud) please wait a little more for that.

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

Reaction videos can be mildly entertaining but I would seriously buy it if Sakurai would record and uploaded his reaction videos when finding out he gets to work in a character. I think it would quite an unique and very interesting video series. Like, I wanted to see his face when he heard he could work on Persona 5 and Joker content given he likes that series. I would pay top dollar to see I’m react to finding out about adding Doomslayer to the roster.

Does he crack a smile? Does he sigh with a “here we go again” attitude? Does he storm off in rage whilst throwing this papers to confront the Nintendo execs? Does he raise an eyebrow? Does he do a fist pump?

A person wonders about these things.

Did I miss something indicating Sakurai didn't tell the truth about how the selection process worked?

Afaik, he said that Nintendo provided him with a list of candidates from which he could choose. The only reactions would be him reading that list and maybe immediately following meeting with the chosen characters' owners (assuming Nintendo hadn't already gotten permission for everyone on the list).

The scenario you described doesn't make sense going by what Sakurai has said about the process. He doesn't get called in and told the next character for DLC. It's his decision which character is chosen from the list.

Just one thought I had since the other day, remember when SNK having a character was leaked by Nintendo in the website? Wasn't Fighter 5 info was found back then as well? Wonder if they removed it as well, info showed the same stuff as Joker.

All that information is in this thread. Just search for it. By the way, I can't believe the other people responding to you have forgotten about it already.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I guess. Thank you all for the advice.

I kinda hope I try my best not to make big shots out of this. At the end of the day, it's still fun and games.

Everyone listen up. I want to propose something. How about I take a break from this site up until my birthday (October 26 in my location). Make sure y'all update me on what happened after I left. I won't bother this speculation anymore. Just keep me updates constantly. Send me PMs which I can read when I come back. Got it?

As Smashing Ramen said we've had much, much worst people here. No one's perfect and I admit myself when I first joined I've been like you repeating myself, being pretty rude at times and repeating stuff. Don't beat yourself too much. Compared to those other people. We're both tame compared to them. We're all human in the end.

You have nothing to prove to try your best. Just be yourself is the best advice I can give you.

I seriously think we're underestimating Lara's chances. Sure, Tomb Raider started out as a Western series but it's kind of hard to ignore the fact that she has 3 movies, an upcoming movie, more Guiness World records than Mario himself, is without a doubt the most iconic female character in gaming, and is owned by a Japanese company in Square-Enix.

There's always the possibility that Sakurai just ignores all this and just looks at her as Another Western Shooter Character but it's also possible that he knows exactly how critical of a character she is worldwide and goes out of his way to get the most iconic Female in gaming in his gaming icon fighting game.

By the way, is there any data to suggest that Tomb Raider IS completely unknown over in Japan? I've heard that the series, film and games, is pretty DAMN worldwide.

This is what I'm saying. After getting Terry Bogard that many people didn't think we get who got in for his legacy and games having inspired Smash is a good reason to keep an eye on her.

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

Just one thought I had since the other day, remember when SNK having a character was leaked by Nintendo in the website? Wasn't Fighter 5 info was found back then as well? Wonder if they removed it as well, info showed the same stuff as Joker.

First mention here: https://smashboards.com/threads/newcomer-dlc-speculation-discussion.453424/post-23517878

 

[Door Key Pig]

All that information is in this thread. Just search for it. By the way, I can't believe the other people responding to you have forgotten about it already.

If the fifth character is truly from the existing copyrights like Nintendo or Capcom, does that mean it could be...

Spoiler

TIBBY BRINGS THE BEAT!

 

[Evil Trapezium]

No one really paid attention to the Fighters Pass 5 page because it had all the copyright logos for each company instead of one. While Joker had all of the copyrights of every single company, The Hero only had Square Enix's copyright so by that logic, Hero should have every company involved in the game in the copyright too. I don't see how it would help us narrow down who Fighter #5 is.

EDIT: By the way here is the page for Challenger 5: https://www.nintendo.co.uk/DLC/Challenger-Pack-5-1519372.html

EDIT 2: Here are the others so you can compare

Joker Challenger Pack: https://www.nintendo.co.uk/DLC/Joker-Challenger-Pack-1519380.html
Hero Challenger Pack: https://www.nintendo.co.uk/DLC/Hero-Challenger-Pack-1519384.html
Banjo & Kazooie Challenger Pack: https://www.nintendo.co.uk/DLC/Banjo-Kazooie-Challenger-Pack-1519388.html
Terry Bogard Challenger Pack: https://www.nintendo.co.uk/DLC/Challenger-Pack-4-1519368.html

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

No one really paid attention to the Fighters Pass 5 page because it had all the copyright logos for each company instead of one. While Joker had all of the copyrights of every single company, The Hero only had Square Enix's copyright so by that logic, Hero should have every company involved in the game in the copyright too. I don't see how it would help us narrow down who Fighter #5 is.

Regardless, if fighter 5's copyrights on that page were genuine, and if fighter 5 is from a new company, one would expect a new company to be listed on that page. A new company isn't listed on that page, so one of those assumptions is false. I think the most likely to be false is that fighter 5's copyrights were genuine.

(I feel compelled to make this into an explicit deductive argument, but I think it would make it less clear to a casual reader. I'm aware there's at least one assumption I didn't type out, so if anyone wants to see that, I can show you.)

 

[Calamitas]

No one really paid attention to the Fighters Pass 5 page because it had all the copyright logos for each company instead of one. While Joker had all of the copyrights of every single company, The Hero only had Square Enix's copyright so by that logic, Hero should have every company involved in the game in the copyright too. I don't see how it would help us narrow down who Fighter #5 is.

EDIT: By the way here is the page for Challenger 5: https://www.nintendo.co.uk/DLC/Challenger-Pack-5-1519372.html

EDIT 2: Here are the others so you can compare

Joker Challenger Pack: https://www.nintendo.co.uk/DLC/Joker-Challenger-Pack-1519380.html
Hero Challenger Pack: https://www.nintendo.co.uk/DLC/Hero-Challenger-Pack-1519384.html
Banjo & Kazooie Challenger Pack: https://www.nintendo.co.uk/DLC/Banjo-Kazooie-Challenger-Pack-1519388.html
Terry Bogard Challenger Pack: https://www.nintendo.co.uk/DLC/Challenger-Pack-4-1519368.html

Joker's English-language page is the only one that lists all the copyright. In every other language, it just lists Atlus and Sega, just how it is with the other revealed Fighter's Pass characters. The current FP5 page meanwhile lists all the copyright for every language.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Regardless, if fighter 5's copyrights on that page were genuine, and if fighter 5 is from a new company, one would expect a new company to be listed on that page. A new company isn't listed on that page, so one of those assumptions is false. I think the most likely to be false is that fighter 5's copyrights were genuine.

Joker's English-language page is the only one that lists all the copyright. In every other language, it just lists Atlus and Sega, just how it is with the other revealed Fighter's Pass characters. The current FP5 page meanwhile lists all the copyright for every language.

If Joker's copyright section is a mistake then it doesn't make any sense to have all the copyright holders for the game to be for one character. I'm pretty sure the copyright would change as soon as the fighter is revealed. Microsoft wasn't revealed to be in the copyright section until after Banjo & Kazooie were revealed.

 

[SpectreJordan]

You know what? That's fair enough. I think you could have some fun with time manipulation and add in some cool abilities, but I won't deny that she is made to be the sort of more standard character in Overwatch properly.


Unrelated to you, but how do people feel about Sakurai's ideas for this overall "museum of Japanese gaming" or whatever? We're actually getting close to having most of that filled out. Resident Evil at 92 million copies sold is the biggest Japanese franchise not in the game, then Monster Hunter at 54 million, and then Tekken at 48 million before a bigger drop (I will point out that Tomb Raider is actually the second biggest not in at 74 million, but she started as a Western character... so I'm not quite counting her). I know those franchises don't always excite people, but I find it really impressive how much ground Sakurai has already covered and how many of the big name companies are in.

If you got those three in, got in a couple of the other bigger franchises like Souls and Tales, added in Koei Tecmo, Arc System Works, and maybe like Falcom, and then got in personalities like Yako Taro and Suda 51 in the game through 2B and Travis, you'd have virtually gotten everything majorly Japanese related in the game across the industry. It's amazing we're already doing as well as we are with such things to be honest, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Sakurai go for a lot of these... and honestly, it would just be really cool.

I’ve been thinking about this ever since Terry got in. SNK & Terry Bogard are huge in the FGC, but they’re nowhere near as well known amongst the regular gaming scene. Alongside Sakurai’s comment about wanting to show the world how great Japanese gaming is, I really do think Sakurai wants to showcase every major Japanese company.

I think Koei Tecmo, ArcSys, Level 5 & a Japanese indie character (leaning towards Quote) are going to happen.

As well as Resident Evil & Tekken like you mentioned. Well see about Monster Hunter; Sakurai & Capcom May feel that the stage/boss is good enough representation.

 

[KatKit]

I just realized if Smell of the Game made it to Smash and it isn't an instrumental, they might have to censor the word BS. If they swapped it with bullcrap or even something nonsensical and kid-friendly like bullheck... I'd actually be okay with that.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I just realized if Smell of the Game made it to Smash and it isn't an instrumental, they might have to censor the word BS. If they swapped it with bullcrap or even something nonsensical and kid-friendly like bullheck... I'd actually be okay with that.

Nah I'd imagine they'd go for "THAT IS JUST SO BLAAAAAZIIIING".


Also I just remember Smash wouldn't be Sol's first platform fighter lmao, GG had one on the DS

 

[Deleted member]

Cloud Strife and Joker (or better yet, PERSONA; which has maybe 2 Nintendo console exclusive games) is in the game can we stop with the "lol they gotta be on nintendo consoles" arguments

Just say you want Amaterasu. You dont need bring up weak arguments to validate your request

Learn how to read. I was talking about Street Fighters lack of support, not that franchises like that can't get in Smash.

 

[Perkilator]

Is there a River City Girls support thread around here? I’d like to stop down there to show my support.

 

[Curious Villager]

Is there a River City Girls support thread around here? I’d like to stop down there to show my support.

I think this is the one.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Did I miss something indicating Sakurai didn't tell the truth about how the selection process worked?

Afaik, he said that Nintendo provided him with a list of candidates from which he could choose. The only reactions would be him reading that list and maybe immediately following meeting with the chosen characters' owners (assuming Nintendo hadn't already gotten permission for everyone on the list).

The scenario you described doesn't make sense going by what Sakurai has said about the process. He doesn't get called in and told the next character for DLC. It's his decision which character is chosen from the list..

Way to be a joy kill. I wasn’t really seriously suggesting that Sakurai should do it. I was just musing how humorous it would be even if staged. I could really careless about nuances of the scenario actually. Yeah, Sakurai probably doesn’t have any sort of reaction to it but I was enjoying thinking about it and decided to share it here. The idea of Sakurai getting giddy about the prospect of including Joker is what led me to suggest it. Was that so wrong of me to do that? I wasn’t taking it seriously and I find it strange you did. I was also trying to supply some light material for this thread after some trouble went down but obviously....speculation is serious business.

Edit: I had a pretty horrible day with very little sleep/some bad news so I apologize for the snarkiness. I get what you meant but, in my rather agitated current state of mind, it just read “You are an idiot for suggesting this”.

 

[YsDisciple]

No one really paid attention to the Fighters Pass 5 page because it had all the copyright logos for each company instead of one. While Joker had all of the copyrights of every single company, The Hero only had Square Enix's copyright so by that logic, Hero should have every company involved in the game in the copyright too. I don't see how it would help us narrow down who Fighter #5 is.

EDIT: By the way here is the page for Challenger 5: https://www.nintendo.co.uk/DLC/Challenger-Pack-5-1519372.html

EDIT 2: Here are the others so you can compare

Joker Challenger Pack: https://www.nintendo.co.uk/DLC/Joker-Challenger-Pack-1519380.html
Hero Challenger Pack: https://www.nintendo.co.uk/DLC/Hero-Challenger-Pack-1519384.html
Banjo & Kazooie Challenger Pack: https://www.nintendo.co.uk/DLC/Banjo-Kazooie-Challenger-Pack-1519388.html
Terry Bogard Challenger Pack: https://www.nintendo.co.uk/DLC/Challenger-Pack-4-1519368.html

Sly dogs; they're masking the company associated with the character. Hmm... then... could it be a Capcom/Konami/Bandai Namco rep?

 

[KatKit]

Is there a River City Girls support thread around here? I’d like to stop down there to show my support.

The closest we have is the Kunio thread that was listed, but River City Girls was also heavily discussed in the Shantae support thread since it was co-developed by WayForward and there was a bit of overlap appeal.

I support it, btw. Also, I'd love to hear Bully or Rich in Smash:

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Sly dogs; they're masking the company associated with the character. Hmm... then... could it be a Capcom/Konami/Bandai Namco rep?

Give me James Sunderland! Again the intro to Silent Hill 2 would make the greatest announcement trailer.

 

[Flyboy]

Let’s talk about something else PLEASE, like...
Ooh! I know! If you could add a Sony character to smash, who would it be? If you don’t know the obviously right answer I haven’t been here like enough

No shade against Sackboy - I love LBP - but I'm a PaRappa man.

Nah I'd imagine they'd go for "THAT IS JUST SO BLAAAAAZIIIING".


Also I just remember Smash wouldn't be Sol's first platform fighter lmao, GG had one on the DS

Part of the reason I love Guilty Gear so much is that game. It had such a fun story mode and roster and was an awesome platform fighter to boot. Sol would be such an incredible addition. I need to put him in my signature.

 

[Deleted member]

The closest we have is the Kunio thread that was listed, but River City Girls was also heavily discussed in the Shantae support thread since it was co-developed by WayForward and there was a bit of overlap appeal.

I support it, btw. Also, I'd love to hear Bully or Rich in Smash:

River City Ransom in Smash period would be sick. The NES game was charming as **** and RCG seems to carry the legacy well.

 

[Plank08]

I wrote a whole post analyzing the DLC stages for Smash 4, then asking which past stages you would pay to have back, along with any brand new standalone stages you would buy despite not coming with any characters, before realizing it wouldn't fit in a thread speculating about newcomer characters.

So here's something different. You can have a stage come back from a previous game, but it has to come with a character you genuinely want, and it needs to be from the same series as the stage you're bringing back. What are your bundles? Here are mine:

Rainbow Road (Smash 4 3DS): Toadette
Pac-Maze (Smash 4 3DS): Ms. Pac-Man
Woolly World (Smash 4 Wii U): Shy Guy

Toadette before toad is a crime against nature

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

The 5th one has the Copyright info that you'd see ingame

"© 2018 Nintendo Original Game: © Nintendo / HAL Laboratory, Inc. Characters: © Nintendo / HAL Laboratory, Inc. / Pokémon. / Creatures Inc. / GAME FREAK inc. / SHIGESATO ITOI / APE inc. / INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS / Konami Digital Entertainment / SEGA / CAPCOM CO., LTD. / BANDAI NAMCO Entertainment Inc. / MONOLITHSOFT / CAPCOM U.S.A., INC. / SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. / ATLUS / Microsoft"

That looks the same as the copyright section on Joker's page to me. If that's right (fighter pack 5's spanish page at the time of the leak isn't archived on the internet archive, so idk), I think that is a placeholder for the copyright section, and the English Joker page never had it changed.

Edit: Atlus and Microsoft were (acccording to the above quote) and are on fighter pack 5's page. They aren't on Joker's English page.

The copyrights on Joker's English page could have been a placeholder that was never switched out like the other languages' pages. The placeholder could have been amended to include Atlus and Microsoft sometime after it was used on Joker's English page. The copyrights on fighter pack 5's page could be that amended placeholder.

 

[IsmaR]

Kunio as a series getting any kind of love would be amazing to see. It's right up there with Ninja Gaiden for me in terms of the last few NES mainstays making it in.

Though I've resigned myself to thinking if that happens, the new popular complaint is gonna be "All we're getting for this DLC is too many punchy-fighty dudes."

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Toadette before toad is a crime against nature

How about Toad and Toadette as an Ice Climbers duo? It'd probably make more sense than a single Toad fighting on his own, due to being similar in frame to them.

 

[DarthEnderX]

How about Toad and Toadette as an Ice Climbers duo? It'd probably make more sense than a single Toad fighting on his own, due to being similar in frame to them.

Ugh, don't ruin him with that awful mechanic.

Captain Toad and Toadette can fight on their own just fine.

 

[Spongeboob]

How about Toad and Toadette as an Ice Climbers duo? It'd probably make more sense than a single Toad fighting on his own, due to being similar in frame to them.

Ugh, don't ruin him with that awful mechanic.

Captain Toad and Toadette can fight on their own just fine.

Just make them skins.

 

[Plank08]

Yeah, costumes work fine

 

[DarthEnderX]

Just make them skins.

Well yes, obviously Captain Toad/Toadette can share a slot.

 

[KatKit]

No shade against Sackboy - I love LBP - but I'm a PaRappa man.

Why stop at Parappa when Echoes are a thing, fam?

But seriously, that game was hella underrated lol.

Toadette before toad is a crime against nature

There really is an Estelle quote for everything.

 

[Flyboy]

Why stop at Parappa when Echoes are a thing, fam?

But seriously, that game was hella underrated lol.



There really is an Estelle quote for everything.

Lammy is legitimately the best in the series so, uh, hell yes.