Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Deleted member]

I think the split is less between those who are for it vs. those who are against it, and more those who are for it vs. those who are sick and tired of talking about it.

Well, I just hope we can finish this discussion before the leak season starts...

 

[NoOtherPersona]

I apologize to everyone who thought of me as quite annoying. Y'all thinking I'm a bad person now.

I was thinking in advance.

Your not a bad person again your very passionate about this

Personally would have preferred, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8 and 11.

7 has a different body type, and 9 and 10 are both CACs.

I wanted to put one on my wishlist but they said and I could be wrong about this that because he didn't have a definitive look without the armor they didn't pick him which I thought was weird because I thought this is what he looked like with out it

Spoiler: Alef (Hero 1)

2 can't use magic 5 uses staffs in all promotional material featuring him 7 is too short I figured they didn't want to do 9 because he has wings and they don't want to animate that so 10 just made the most sense to me

 

[ZaneHitsurugi]

omg this sentence SENT me.. lesbians checking CNN for Tracer in Smash rise up!!

I haven't read all this discussion about diversity and new female characters, but I'm gonna say my part. There are only a few male characters I would like to have at this point, but besides that I want female characters. In my opinion there has been a particular lack of diversity in this iteration of Smash; the female characters we've gotten have been clones, echoes, and alternates. The only femininity we got were a carbon copy of Peach and a semi-clone of Villager. Inkling is a welcome avatar character, but once again is both male & female. K Rool, Belmonts, Incineroar, Ken, and Terry all fit a rather hyper-masculine role, and Joker and Hero fit the self-insert male protagonist role. While I am aware a lot of people want Doomguy, I'd just like you to understand he is fundamentally yet another hyper-masculine character. I think if any of you deny that much it is just ignorance.

Many people such as myself do not identify with those characters, and that is not me trying to say I hate them because I don't. They're fun and I like some of them. But there's a sort of barrier in that I don't feel I can express myself with them or that they represent a significant part of me. That's why you see a lot of Bayo and Peach players are women or gays, because they are naturally attracted to those characters.

The issue is that, if you want to talk about gender diversity, the majority of the fanbase and probably the vast vocal majority are straight men- which means the most requested character will always be representative of that. That's why you can always try and argue "x character would make more people happy," because it's literally true. If you asked a gay or female community what they wanted you would get much different results. There is also the aspect of how games are most often targeted towards young straight guys, which means there are very few female protagonists with enough significance to warrant an argument for being in Smash in your eyes. But at the end of the day, while the things you mentioned are significant markers of diversity, there is importance in gender diversity. Appealing to the majority all the time means disregarding everyone that does not fit within that majority.

If nothing else.. y'all got a whole bunch of characters so far, letting there be one dang unique female character for the sake of diversity is not going to kill you.

Diversity of gameplay and series matters more than whether or not the character has a **** or not.
If you can't express yourself with a character that isn't your race/gender/sexual orientation I don't think that's a problem with your ability to see things about yourself in said characters since you're defining yourself by your race/gender/sexual orientation.

 

[Curious Villager]

I apologize to everyone who thought of me as quite annoying. Y'all thinking I'm a bad person now.

I was thinking in advance.

You're not bad, just passionate, we all have something we're quite passionate in seeing in Smash.


On an unrelated note, what gaming genre's are left that don't have any unique characters so far?
I suppose there is first person shooters, visual novels, rythm games, survival horror and puzzle games, anything else?

 

[DarthEnderX]

they said and I could be wrong about this that because he didn't have a definitive look without the armor

They all have a definitive look. He's wearing armor, but I don't see why that would be an issue.

2 can't use magic

I don't think that really matters. All of the Heroes have spells in Smash that aren't on their respective spell lists, because their magic list has been combined into one giant, randomized list.

5 uses staffs in all promotional material

Which is silly, because he uses swords all the time in the game. He can equip way more swords than he can staffs. And all of his most powerful weapon is a sword.

I figured they didn't want to do 9 because he has wings and they don't want to animate

He doesn't have wings for, like, 99% of the game.

 

[Plank08]

I apologize to everyone who thought of me as quite annoying. Y'all thinking I'm a bad person now.

I was thinking in advance.

oh don’t worry, I understand you have strong opinions, and while we may not completely share opinions, your NOT a bad person.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Y'all hear about ZUN saying he wants Touhou stuff in Smash? He's also the composer of the series and remember who Kirkhope is?

 

[Idon]

I really wished they used DQV Hero. Sure, as far as DQ Heroes go he has a rather unique weapon, but he's by far one of the most popular protagonists and comes from my personal favorite Dragon Quest game. In fact, from Sakurai himself he was denied purely because he doesn't use swords and shields regularly.

Frankly, I think that's extremely disappointing when fans would be happy enough just to play as him, especially considering he DOES have a sword and shield associated with him:

The shimmering shield, the strongest in the game, and one only he can use:

Pankraz's Sword, named for his father who passed it on to him, tying into the game's themes of family and inheritance:


Not to mention he has the coolest design of the bunch I personally think:

Tarzan phsyique, showing copious amounts of skin, simple robes, a snazzy turban, and ypu gotta love that long wild hair.

Sigh.
I guess a recolor will do...

 

[NoOtherPersona]

I really wished they used DQV Hero. Sure, as far as DQ Heroes go he has a rather unique weapon, but he's by far one of the most popular protagonists and comes from my personal favorite Dragon Quest game. In fact, from Sakurai himself he was denied purely because he doesn't use swords and shields regularly.

Frankly, I think that's extremely disappointing when fans would be happy enough just to play as him, especially considering he DOES have a sword and shield associated with him:

The shimmering shield, the strongest in the game, and one only he can use:
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Pankraz's Sword, named for his father who passed it on to him, tying into the game's themes of family and inheritance:View attachment 241891

Not to mention he has the coolest design of the bunch I personally think:



Tarzan phsyique, showing copious amounts of skin, simple robes, a snazzy turban, and ypu gotta love that long wild hair.

As a fan of 5 your not alone kinda silly reason I bet with enough time they could have gotten 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10,11

 

[Will]

Y'all hear about ZUN saying he wants Touhou stuff in Smash? He's also the composer of the series and remember who Kirkhope is?

id imagine you would be the composer of your own indie game, yes

i dont see your point though, all signs lead to touhou not being in smash at any realizable time soon, maybe not even for the next few set of DLC patches.

 

[DarthEnderX]

Frankly, I think that's extremely disappointing when fans would be happy enough just to play as him, especially considering he DOES have a sword and shield associated with him:

The shimmering shield, the strongest in the game, and one only he can use:

Pankraz's Sword, named for his father who passed it on to him, tying into the game's themes of family and inheritance:

Well, actually the strongest sword and shield in the game are the Metal King Sword and Shield, which he can use. And as far as I know, that was the first appearance of those items.

Also, he can use a bunch of shields.

As a fan of 5 your not alone kinda silly reason I bet with enough time they could have gotten 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10,11

If they weren't dead set against having more than 8 colors for some inexplicable reason.

Maybe they coulda made an echo fighter that was short and was 1, 2, and 3's Gid Goku-esque NES looks, and then also 7.

 

[NoOtherPersona]

Well, actually the strongest sword and shield in the game are the Metal King Sword and Shield, which he can use. And as far as I know, that was the first appearance of those items.

Also, he can use a bunch of shields.

If they weren't dead set against having more than 8 colors for some inexplicable reason.

Maybe they coulda made an echo fighter that was short and was 1, 2, and 3's Gid Goku-esque NES looks, and then also 7.

My man that's wishful thinking at this point for the most part I only really want 5,6

 

[AmphabulouSnake]

I really wish October would end right now 'cause then we'd finally be close to Terry's release and the unevitable Smash Direct that'll unveil the fifth dlc fighter and a sneak peak at the next one
And ALSO these discussions/speculations would finally change to something else lol

 

[Will]

And ALSO these discussions/speculations would finally change to something else lol

Ah, leak season.

Nothing like denying whatever some username on the internet says because it isn't the specific character you want. Maybe that's why I got so iffy about the dude saying Banjo was in pre-E3.

 

[Wunderwaft]

i wont mind reimu, the knife chick seems cooler but i assume reimu is the bad ***** of the game

the outrage against her because shes an anime girl will be absolutely hilarious though

You mean Sakuya? She's a very popular character and has been playable before but she's not the main character. She's basically maid Dio but without a stand since she can throw knives and stop time.

 

[Will]

You mean Sakuya? She's a very popular character and has been playable before but she's not the main character. She's basically maid Dio but without a stand since she can throw knives and stop time.

full time manipulation is something i'd find wacky in smash. bayonetta's witch time doesn't really do it for me.

maybe if shadow joins as a semiclone one day, we can get cool chaos control shenanigans to happen. but with echoes, all i can see happen is a mewtwo recovery type beat to replace the spring.

 

[YoshiandToad]

You're not bad, just passionate, we all have something we're quite passionate in seeing in Smash.


On an unrelated note, what gaming genre's are left that don't have any unique characters so far?
I suppose there is first person shooters, visual novels, rythm games, survival horror and puzzle games, anything else?

Puzzle has Dr. Mario but I guess it depends on your definition of unique characters.

Unless we count Wii Fit, Mii Fighters or the Mario gang due to Peach using a tennis racket and golf club in a single move, you could add Sports games to that list too.

 

[Curious Villager]

Puzzle has Dr. Mario but I guess it depends on your definition of unique characters.

Unless we count Wii Fit, Mii Fighters or the Mario gang due to Peach using a tennis racket and golf club in a single move, you could add Sports games to that list too.

Yeah hence why I said unique characters. Dr. Mario might not be an echo fighter, he's still a derivative of Mario and apparently still being balanced as if he is an echo fighter from what I've heard.

So yeah, I personally wouldn't really count him, but that's just me...

 

[Wunderwaft]

full time manipulation is something i'd find wacky in smash. bayonetta's witch time doesn't really do it for me.

maybe if shadow joins as a semiclone one day, we can get cool chaos control shenanigans to happen. but with echoes, all i can see happen is a mewtwo recovery type beat to replace the spring.

My only grievance with full time manipulation is that it's something quite hard to balance. It's either stupidly OP or it's borderline useless, no in between. Perhaps it could be balanced if you give it a long cooldown window, but I don't know how that would work.

 

[Deleted member]

I really wish October would end right now 'cause then we'd finally be close to Terry's release and the unevitable Smash Direct that'll unveil the fifth dlc fighter and a sneak peak at the next one
And ALSO these discussions/speculations would finally change to something else lol

Yeah...I wish.

 

[Will]

My only grievance with full time manipulation is that it's something quite hard to balance. It's either stupidly OP or it's borderline useless, no in between. Perhaps it could be balanced if you give it a long cooldown window, but I don't know how that would work.

jotaro's star platinum was basically rewritten to be "i can stop time for 5 seconds, but i also have a 5 second cooldown"

Spoiler: part 6

possibly something along those lines.

 

[SKX31]

You're not bad, just passionate, we all have something we're quite passionate in seeing in Smash.


On an unrelated note, what gaming genre's are left that don't have any unique characters so far?
I suppose there is first person shooters, visual novels, rythm games, survival horror and puzzle games, anything else?

Hmm, I'd guess RTS, MOBAs and MMORPGs? WRPGs are an untapped sphere for that matter. Match-3 is repped by Dr. Mario as YoshiandToad said, but it's a question of definition, and either way it's relatively untapped given that it's Tetris' and Puyo Puyo's category. Open World / Sandbox games are also without reps at the moment - could one count Pikmin / some Animal Crossing games as Sandbox? Maybe, but I'm personally not sure.

Grand strategy / 4X is probably one of the categories I have the hardest time seeing a character come from. That and City builders / Tactical Shooters like Rainbow Six.

 

[Deleted member]

Hmm, I'd guess RTS, MOBAs and MMORPGs? WRPGs are an untapped sphere for that matter. Match-3 is repped by Dr. Mario as YoshiandToad said, but it's a question of definition, and either way it's relatively untapped given that it's Tetris' and Puyo Puyo's category. Open World / Sandbox games are also without reps at the moment - could one count Pikmin / some Animal Crossing games as Sandbox? Maybe, but I'm personally not sure.

Grand strategy / 4X is probably one of the categories I have the hardest time seeing a character come from. That and City builders / Tactical Shooters like Rainbow Six.

Either way, all of those sound really awesome to say the least.

 

[Will]

MMOs are a weird question becasue i've always debated it

since blizzard is pretty much out of the question right now, that really leaves, IMO, RuneScape and MapleStory

 

[Deleted member]

MMOs are a weird question becasue i've always debated it

since blizzard is pretty much out of the question right now, that really leaves, IMO, RuneScape and MapleStory

Yeah...so much for the Switch Overwatch hype. Now I'm genuinely curious...

 

[Deleted member]

Y'all hear about ZUN saying he wants Touhou stuff in Smash? He's also the composer of the series and remember who Kirkhope is?

I guess ZUN really isn't that anti-corporate as others were perceiving him out to be. I'm going to take his word for it and think he hasn't been contacted by Nintendo and Sakurai about Smash, so I'm not really expecting Reimu in Smash which is a shame because there's potential in a Touhou stage being full of chaotic stage hazards all over the place. Then again, this probably doesn't break NDA, so what actually breaks NDAs other than "yes I'm working on this character in Smash"?

I really wish October would end right now 'cause then we'd finally be close to Terry's release and the unevitable Smash Direct that'll unveil the fifth dlc fighter and a sneak peak at the next one
And ALSO these discussions/speculations would finally change to something else lol

We're basically in the dead month period like March and May. All we can do currently is just sit around and debate.

Though with all of us pretty much going in circles currently, I kinda hope this last Fighter Pack is just jammed with a ****load of content where we get an echo fighter and even 2 stages to fill up the stage slots, but that's extremely unlikely as that's more than what was advertised and would need 2 characters from separate franchises in Smash with 1 echoing off of the other.

unless... they could somehow do it with Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors...​

 

[3BitSaurus]

Wow, the Yoko Taro and ZUN posts are great news for fans of 2B and Reimu. Let's hope this is more like the Kirkhope/SNK situations and less like Wayforward.

About MMOs... there's Ragnarok, but I have no idea about its worldwide popularity. But I dunno, if the first MMO character wasn't from WoW, it would feel kinda wrong in my eyes, Blizzard **** aside. Even from someone who doesn't hold MMORPGs as their cup of tea (though I have played a few), WoW has always stood out to me as "the Dragon Quest/Final Fantasy of MMOs".

For MOBAs... well, let's hope we see something of the new League fighting game in their upcoming 10-year anniversary. If that comes to Switch... it won't confirm anything, obviously, but it's a point in Riot's favor, methinks.

 

[Deleted member]

Wow, the Yoko Taro and ZUN posts are great news for fans of 2B and Reimu. Let's hope this is more like the Kirkhope/SNK situations and less like Wayforward.

About MMOs... there's Ragnarok, but I have no idea about its worldwide popularity. But I dunno, if the first MMO character wasn't from WoW, it would feel kinda wrong in my eyes, Blizzard **** aside. Even from someone who doesn't hold MMORPGs as their cup of tea (though I have played a few), WoW has always stood out to me as "the Dragon Quest/Final Fantasy of MMOs".

For MOBAs... well, let's hope we see something of the new League fighting game in their upcoming 10-year anniversary. If that comes to Switch... it won't confirm anything, obviously, but it's a point in Riot's favor, methinks.

As for the MOBA thing, I gambled with my friends for this.

I gambled Saber, Hatsune Miku, and a League champ. If any of these people get in, I'm losing a lot of money.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Wow, the Yoko Taro and ZUN posts are great news for fans of 2B and Reimu. Let's hope this is more like the Kirkhope/SNK situations and less like Wayforward.

About MMOs... there's Ragnarok, but I have no idea about its worldwide popularity. But I dunno, if the first MMO character wasn't from WoW, it would feel kinda wrong in my eyes, Blizzard **** aside. Even from someone who doesn't hold MMORPGs as their cup of tea (though I have played a few), WoW has always stood out to me as "the Dragon Quest/Final Fantasy of MMOs".

For MOBAs... well, let's hope we see something of the new League fighting game in their upcoming 10-year anniversary. If that comes to Switch... it won't confirm anything, obviously, but it's a point in Riot's favor, methinks.

I mean, tbf if character 5 was a Blizzard character I highly doubt they'd get scrapped because of th

 

[3BitSaurus]

As for the MOBA thing, I gambled with my friends for this.

I gambled Saber, Hatsune Miku, and a League champ. If any of these people get in, I'm losing a lot of money.

Wait, if a League champ gets in or doesn't? I mean, you were in the League thread, so...

Thank God I don't gamble with Smash newcomers, because Bayonetta would have made me lose money for sure.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

You know the more I think of and look up Crash. The more I really want to see him in. His zany nature and potential he really fits into Smash perfectly. I really hope he's among the DLC.

Personally I think he'd end the Pass perfectly though I wouldn't object to him being post-Pass especially given his popularity and legacy.

 

[TheTuninator]

i wont mind reimu, the knife chick seems cooler but i assume reimu is the bad ***** of the game

the outrage against her because shes an anime girl will be absolutely hilarious though

Reimu is the bad cop of Gensokyo. She's a broke shrine maiden who's best friends with a kleptomaniac witch and spends her time either drinking or beating up whoever was silly enough to start trouble on her watch. She and Marisa are actually some of my favorite MCs personality-wise, as they have a lot of leeway to be just ridiculous people.

You know the more I think of and look up Crash. The more I really want to see him in. His zany nature and potential he really fits into Smash perfectly. I really hope he's among the DLC.

Personally I think he'd end the Pass perfectly though I wouldn't object to him being post-Pass especially given his popularity and legacy.

I haven't played his games, but I think he'd be great. He fits the Smash look perfectly, as you say.

 

[UberPyro64]

I really wish October would end right now 'cause then we'd finally be close to Terry's release and the unevitable Smash Direct that'll unveil the fifth dlc fighter and a sneak peak at the next one
And ALSO these discussions/speculations would finally change to something else lol

I really doubt the fifth character will be revealed during the Terry video.

Betting a Nintendo Direct or Game Awards.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I really doubt the fifth character will be revealed during the Terry video.

Betting a Nintendo Direct or Game Awards.

Watch DLC fighter 5 does get revealed during Terry's release and then the first post-Pass DLC fighter at the VGA.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Once again, I have managed to catch up to the discussion. This time I think i'll do something different. With my limited knowledge, I've decided to line up all of the female gaming characters talked about on this thread and give you my thoughts on their chances. I know we might have gone away from the topic of female characters but this took quite a while to make so it's here.

This is very, very long so I've put it in spoilers. Keep in mind that I may get things wrong and I may miss something important but I've done just enough research to get the faintest idea of these series that I don't know a whole lot about.

Spoiler: VERY VERY LOOOOOOOOOONG! I am not kidding you!

Negative reinforcement:

First Party - As DLC, they may not have a good chance of getting in since there has been a large focus on Third Party characters.

Assist Trophy - This is an automatic DISconfirm for a character. If a character does get promoted to a character then I'll be very surprised

Spirits - This is more of a soft disconfirm as spirits do possess a lot of importance in the game such as powering your character up, the main point of World of Light and being given away as prizes for online events. They may appear if they get lucky but i wouldn't count on them being frontrunners.

Indie character - While it's not an automatic disconfirmation, two of the most highly requested indie characters such as Shovel Knight and Sans were not made to be playable characters. However they are western characters and we have not seen a Japanese indie character yet so who knows.

Obscurity - While not the most definite factor of a character's chances, it can hamper their chances of making it if they are not well known enough.

Timing - This is a key factor of what allows a character to join. With Rex, he was made a Mii costume since his game was too recent to properly make a character.

Positive reinforcement:

Third Party - As DLC, They have the best chance of getting in since again there seems to be a larger focus of bringing Third Party characters into the game.

Unrepresented - If a series is currently unrepresented then they have a good chance of getting in. This synergises well with third party characters.

Protagonist - Most series are introduced into Smash Bros with the protagonist first. While Pikachu may be a grey area, you could argue that he is the protagonist of Pokemon Yellow. If the main protagonist is already represented then other characters may be available to join them.

Fan requests: If a character is highly requested then they will more likely be chosen.

Corporation influence: This is a sure fire way of having a character be chosen as it can show there is a mutual interest between Sakurai and the company he is working with.
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Here are the ranks given so you can CTRL+F to find which character is given this rank
Very Likely
(Put space here) Likely
Somewhat Likely
Balanced possibility
Somewhat Unlikely
(Put space here) Unlikely
Very Unlikely
Borderline Impossible
(Put Space here) Impossible
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Dixie Kong (Donkey Kong) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Toadette (Super Mario) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Midna (Legend of Zelda) = Extremely Unlikely
Reason: Already an Assist Trophy

Style Savvy character (Style Savvy) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Elma (Xenoblade) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Fiora (Xenoblade) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Byleth (Fire Emblem) = Balanced possibility
Reason: Currently unrepresented but a First Party character

Edelgard (Fire Emblem) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Not the protagonist.

Lyn (Fire Emblem) = Extremely Unlikely
Reason: Already an Assist Trophy

Caeda (Fire Emblem) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Lara Croft (Tomb Raider) = Somewhat Likely
Reason: Main Protagonist of game, unrepresented series, Third Party character, decent fan support, However must compete with more popular characters such as Sora and 2B.

2B (Nier Automata) = Very Likely
Reason: Unrepresented series, corporation influence, heavy fan support

Female alts for The Hero (Dragon Quest) = Impossible
Reason: Characters already represented in game as characters

Carmen Sandiego (Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego) = Borderline impossible
Reason: Very obscure, no fan support, must compete with a lot of other characters, even if she becomes popular it'll be way too late for her to join.

Jill Valentine (Resident Evil) = Likely
Reason: Unrepresented series, healthy fan support

Chun-Li (Street Fighter) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Shantae (Shantae) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Amaterasu (Okami) = Likely
Reason: Unrepresented series, healthy fan support

Morrigan (Darkstalkers) = Unlikely
Reason: While from an unrepresented series, it's more obscure than most fighting games.
NOTE: Cleavage could lead to censorship.

Nakoruru (Samurai Showdown) = Unlikely
Reason: Already shown in a character trailer but could still make it with enough fan support

Ribbon Girl (ARMS) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Fio or Eri (Metal Slug) = Somewhat likely
Reason: Unrepresented series but series not as popular

Impa (Legend of Zelda) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Jeanne (Bayonetta) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Terra (Final Fantasy) = Somewhat Unlikely
Reason: Although from an unrepresented game from the series, not a very popular pick.

Tifa (Final Fantasy) = Somewhat Likely
Reason: Main character already represented so there is room for her to join, however not the most popular pick.

Ultimecia (Final Fantady) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Although from an unrepresented game from the series, not a very popular pick.

Chie (Persona) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Not the main protagonist

Naoto (Persona) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Not the main protagonist

Susie (Kirby) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Tetra (Legend of Zelda) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Vivian (Super Mario) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Sheeda (Fire Emblem) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Although she has no spirit, very obscure character with no fan support

Celica (Fire Emblem) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

ZX (Mega Man) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Tron Bonne (Mega Man) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Kumatora (Earthbound) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Makoto (Street Fighter) = Unlikely
Reason: Although no spirit, not a very popular pick for DLC

Ibuki (Street Fighter) = Very unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

R.Mika (Street Fighter) = Unlikely
Reason: Although no spirit, not a very popular pick for DLC

Juri (Street Fighter) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Menat (Street Fighter) = Unlikely
Reason: Although no spirit, not a very popular pick for DLC

Poison (Street Fighter) = Unlikely
Reason: Although no spirit, not a very popular pick for DLC

Sakura (Street Fighter) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Melia (Xenoblade) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Shanoa (Castlevania) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Sypha (Castlevania) = Unlikely
Reason: Although no spirit, not a very popular pick for DLC

Yoko (Castlevania) = Very unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Charlotte (Castlevania) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Blaze (Sonic the Hedgehog) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Captain Syrup (Wario Land) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Ashley (Wario Ware) = Extremely Unlikely
Reason: Already an Assist Trophy

Mona (Wario Ware) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

King (King of Fighters) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Kyo Kusangi) has not appeared yet

Leona (King of Fighters) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Kyo Kusangi) has not appeared yet

Shiki (Samurai Showdown) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Haohmaru) has not appeared yet

Blue Mary (Fatal Fury) = Somewhat Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Terry Bogard) has appeared in Smash Bros and is unrepresented in game. May appear as a Spirit though.

Mai (Fatal Fury) = Somewhat Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Terry Bogard) has appeared in Smash Bros and is unrepresented in game. May appear as a Spirit though.

Mature (King of Fighters) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Kyo Kusangi) has not appeared yet

Miriam (BloodStatined) = Unlikely
Reason: Indie character, genre already represented by Castlevania

May (Guilty Gear) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Sol Badguy) has not appeared yet

I-No (Guilty Gear) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Sol Badguy) has not appeared yet

ABA (Guilty Gear) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Sol Badguy) has not appeared yet

Haehyun (Guilty Gear) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Sol Badguy) has not appeared yet

Jam (Guilty Gear) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Sol Badguy) has not appeared yet

Dizzy (Guilty Gear) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Sol Badguy) has not appeared yet

BB Hood (Darkstalkers) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Morrigan) has not appeared yet

Orie (Under Night In Birth) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Hyde Kido) has not appeared yet

Hilda (Under Night In Birth) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Hyde Kido) has not appeared yet

Pauline (Super Mario) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Pyra (Xenoblade) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Reimu Hakurei (Touhou) = Somewhat Unlikely
Reason: Indie character

Kat (Gravity Rush) = Borderline Impossible
Reason: Sony owned series

Akira Howard (Astral Chain) = Medium Possibility
Reason: First party but still has a chance as Bayonetta 2 was also published by Nintendo. Potential Fighters Pass 5?

Octoling (Splatoon) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Pearl & Marina (Splatoon) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Twintelle (Arms) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Min-Min (ARMS) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Krystal (Star Fox) = Extremely Unlikely
Reason: Already an Assist Trophy

Ayumi Tachibana (Famicom Detective Club) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Mach Rider (Mach Rider) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit
NOTE: The gender of Mach Rider is left ambigious

Marina Liteyears (Mischief Makers) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Obscure series,

Arle Nadja (Puyo Puyo) = Likely
Reason: Highly requested, unrepresented series, no competition.

Alis Landale (Phantasy Star) = Unsure
Reason: The transistion of making Phantasy Star an online game has left her chances quite ambigious.

Alicia Melchiott (Valkyria Chronicles) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Calude Wallace) has not appeared yet

Amy Rose (Sonic the Hedgehog) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Roll (Mega Man) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Heather Mason (Silent Hill) = Somewhat Unlikely
Reason: Although a protagonist, she will have to compete with James Sunderland and Harry Mason as the Silent Hill rep

Katrielle Layton (Professor Layton) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Hershel Layton) has not appeared yet

Velvet Crowe (Tales of Series) = Somewhat Unlikely
Reason: Although a protagonist, she has very heavy competition with Lloyd Irving as the Tales rep.

KOS-MOS (Xenosaga) = Somewhat Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Shion Uzuki) has not appeared yet, however KOS-MOS is a major character

Athena Asamiya (Psycho Soldier) = Unlikely
Reason: Although a protagonist, the series is very obscure. Even with King of Fighters, she is not the protagonist of the series.

Saber (Type-MOON) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Shirou Emiya) has not appeared yet

Mythra (Xenoblade) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Ana (Earthbound) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Paula (Earthbound) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Adeleine (Kirby) = Unlikely
Reason: Although not a spirit, she is a first party character which gives her a low priority

Brittany (Pikmin) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Alex (Minecraft) = Balanced Possibility
Reason: If Steve becomes available, Alex will most definitely be one of his alts.

Ms. Pac-Man (Pac-Man) = Unlikely
Reason: Although not a Spirit, she is very much the same as Pac-Man in terms of abilities

Medusa (Kid Icarus) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

The Sayonara Wild Hearts protagonist = Very Unlikely
Reason: Indie character, non-existent support

Ring Fit Trainer (Ring Fit Adventure) = Unlikely
Reason: Although she isn't a spirit and has a sudden increase in popularity, it seems too late to include her.

Ajna (Indivisible) = Unlikely
Reason: Indie character

Estelle Bright (Trails in the Sky) = Unlikely
Reason: Although the protagonist of the series, the character isn't very highly requested.

Daemon X pilot (Daemon X Machina) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Main characters are already spirits

Sophitia Alexandra (Soul Calibur) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonists (Siegfried/Nightmare) haven't appeared in the game.

Anna (Fire Emblem) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Kasumi Yoshizawa (Persona) = Unlikely
Reason: Although not a spirit, her first appearance in Persona 5 the Royal would be too late for DLC.

Ayane (Ninja Gaiden/Dead or Alive) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Kasumi) hasn't appeared in the game.

Mym (Dragalia Lost) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Euden) hasn't appeared in the game.

Katalina (Grandblue Fantasy) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonists (Gran and Djeeta) haven't appeared in the game.

Noel Vermillion (Blazblue) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Ragna the Bloodedge) hasn't appeared in the game.

Sakura Shinguji (Sakura Wars) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Although the protagonist of the game, not a popular fan request.

Kachi (Sin and Punishment) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Saki Amamiya and Isa Jo are both spirits

Jill Dozer (Drill Dozer) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Nina Williams (Tekken) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Jin Kazama/Heihachi Mishima) haven't appeared in the game (Heihachi is part of Pac-Man's taunt though)

Asuka (Tekken) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Jin Kazama/Heihachi Mishima) haven't appeared in the game (Heihachi is part of Pac-Man's taunt though)

Sami (Advance Wars) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist Andy is a spirit.

Kassandra (Assassin's Creed) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Although the main protagonist of Assassin's Creed Odyssey, Ubisoft seems to want to include Rayman first.

Aveline de Granpre (Assassin's Creed) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Although the main protagonist of Assassin's Creed Black Flag, Ubisoft seems to want to include Rayman first.

Tracer (Overwatch) = Somewhat Likely
Reason: Protagonist of the series but developer has spoken about her which lowers her chances

D. Va (Overwatch) = Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Tracer) hasn't appeared in the game

Mercy (Overwatch) = Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Tracer) hasn't appeared in the game

Monster Hunter (Monster Hunter) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Rathalos appears to represent the series as a whole.

Joanna Dark (Perfect Dark) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Although the main protagonist, she is not highly requested.

Shepard (Mass Effect) = Very Unlikely
Reason: No fan support

Phosphora (Kid Icarus) = Extremely Unlikely
Reason: Already an Assist Trophy

Lip (Panel de Pon) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Yuri Kozukata (Fatal Frame) = Extremely Unlikely
Reason: Already an Assist Trophy

Momiji (Ninja Gaiden) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Ryu Hayabusa) hasn't appeared in the game

Agitha (Legend of Zelda) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Toon Zelda (Legend of Zelda) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Medli (Legend of Zelda) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Marin (Legend of Zelda) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Jodie Summers (F-Zero) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Viridi (Kid Icarus) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Aigis (Persona) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Main character is a Mii costume

Coco Bandicoot (Crash Bandicoot) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Crash Bandicoot) has not appeared in the game

Junko Enoshima (Danganronpa) = Very Unlikely
Reason: She is not one of the protagonists of the series

Ada Wong (Resident Evil) = Very Unlikely
Reason: She is not one of the protagonists of the series

Agnes (Braverly Default) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Tiz Arrior) has not appeared in the game

Ruto (Legend of Zelda) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Gothitelle (Pokemon) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Although not a spirit, it originates from a generation past it's prime and is not highly requested.

Mipha (Legend of Zelda) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Urbosa (Legend of Zelda) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Linkle (Legend of Zelda) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Although not a spirit, Legend of Zelda characters other than Link, Zelda and Ganondorf are not reoccuring characters

 

[7NATOR]

My only grievance with full time manipulation is that it's something quite hard to balance. It's either stupidly OP or it's borderline useless, no in between. Perhaps it could be balanced if you give it a long cooldown window, but I don't know how that would work.

Currently I'm Making a Unique Shadow Moveset right now

Make the moves Very, VERY high Risk, HIGH reward moves. If the whiff or get their move blocked, there in a lot of Endlag (to get Punished) for example

Anyway yeah I would like a Character that has Time Manipulation like Shadow or Sakuya, and use it in a Offensive manner. Bayonetta's Time Manipulation is only a Defensive maneuver, so I would like to see what they could do with it in an Offensive manner

Not a lot of Fighting games even have characters that mess with time. Only Characters I can think of are Dio from Jojo and Geras from MK11 (Hit in FighterZ I say wouldn't count since the time stuff is mostly aesthetic)

 

[Kotor]

i wont mind reimu, the knife chick seems cooler but i assume reimu is the bad ***** of the game

the outrage against her because shes an anime girl will be absolutely hilarious though

I saw this post of this one Anon describing what effect Reimu would have if she's actually added. I don't think it would go down exactly as the post describes, but the chaos that would come out of it be wonderful. I wish I could post it but I have to censor the post to hell and back unless posting a link is approved for all audiences. I will say that one of the things listed on the post is how much Sakurai would focus on the Embodiment of Scarlet Devil for music selection. And that's me paraphrasing the original line.

 

[Opossum]

Once again, I have managed to catch up to the discussion. This time I think i'll do something different. With my limited knowledge, I've decided to line up all of the female gaming characters talked about on this thread and give you my thoughts on their chances. I know we might have gone away from the topic of female characters but this took quite a while to make so it's here.

This is very, very long so I've put it in spoilers. Keep in mind that I may get things wrong and I may miss something important but I've done just enough research to get the faintest idea of these series that I don't know a whole lot about.

Spoiler: VERY VERY LOOOOOOOOOONG! I am not kidding you!

Negative inclusions:

First Party - As DLC, they may not have a good chance of getting in since there has been a large focus on Third Party characters.

Assist Trophy - This is an automatic DISconfirm for a character. If a character does get promoted to a character then I'll be very surprised

Spirits - This is more of a soft disconfirm as spirits do possess a lot of importance in the game such as powering your character up, the main point of World of Light and being given away as prizes for online events. They may appear if they get lucky but i wouldn't count on them being frontrunners.

Indie character - While it's not an automatic disconfirmation, two of the most highly requested indie characters such as Shovel Knight and Sans were not made to be playable characters. However they are western characters and we have not seen a Japanese indie character yet so who knows.

Obscurity - While not the most definite factor of a character's chances, it can hamper their chances of making it if they are not well known enough.

Timing - This is a key factor of what allows a character to join. With Rex, he was made a Mii costume since his game was too recent to properly make a character.

Positive inclusions:

Third Party - As DLC, They have the best chance of getting in since again there seems to be a larger focus of bringing Third Party characters into the game.

Unrepresented - If a series is currently unrepresented then they have a good chance of getting in. This synergises well with third party characters.

Protagonist - Most series are introduced into Smash Bros with the protagonist first. While Pikachu may be a grey area, you could argue that he is the protagonist of Pokemon Yellow. If the main protagonist is already represented then other characters may be available to join them.

Fan requests: If a character is highly requested then they will more likely be chosen.

Corporation influence: This is a sure fire way of having a character be chosen as it can show there is a mutual interest between Sakurai and the company he is working with.
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Dixie Kong (Donkey Kong) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Toadette (Super Mario) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Midna (Legend of Zelda) = Extremely Unlikely
Reason: Already an Assist Trophy

Style Savvy character (Style Savvy) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Elma (Xenoblade) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Fiora (Xenoblade) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Byleth (Fire Emblem) = Balanced possibility
Reason: Currently unrepresented but a First Party character

Edelgard (Fire Emblem) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Not the protagonist.

Lyn (Fire Emblem) = Extremely Unlikely
Reason: Already an Assist Trophy

Caeda (Fire Emblem) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Lara Croft (Tomb Raider) = Somewhat Likely
Reason: Main Protagonist of game, unrepresented series, Third Party character, decent fan support, However must compete with more popular characters such as Sora and 2B.

2B (Nier Automata) = Very Likely
Reason: Unrepresented series, corporation influence, heavy fan support

Female alts for The Hero (Dragon Quest) = Impossible
Reason: Characters already represented in game as characters

Carmen Sandiego (Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego) = Borderline impossible
Reason: Very obscure, no fan support, must compete with a lot of other characters, even if she becomes popular it'll be way too late for her to join.

Jill Valentine (Resident Evil) = Likely
Reason: Unrepresented series, healthy fan support

Chun-Li (Street Fighter) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Shantae (Shantae) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Amaterasu (Okami) = Likely
Reason: Unrepresented series, healthy fan support

Morrigan (Darkstalkers) = Unlikely
Reason: While from an unrepresented series, it's more obscure than most fighting games.
NOTE: Cleavage could lead to censorship.

Nakoruru (Samurai Showdown) = Unlikely
Reason: Already shown in a character trailer but could still make it with enough fan support

Ribbon Girl (ARMS) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Fio or Eri (Metal Slug) = Somewhat likely
Reason: Unrepresented series but series not as popular

Impa (Legend of Zelda) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Jeanne (Bayonetta) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Terra (Final Fantasy) = Somewhat Unlikely
Reason: Although from an unrepresented game from the series, not a very popular pick.

Tifa (Final Fantasy) = Somewhat Likely
Reason: Main character already represented so there is room for her to join, however not the most popular pick.

Ultimecia (Final Fantady) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Although from an unrepresented game from the series, not a very popular pick.

Chie (Persona) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Not the main protagonist

Naoto (Persona) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Not the main protagonist

Susie (Kirby) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Tetra (Legend of Zelda) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Vivian (Super Mario) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Sheeda (Fire Emblem) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Although she has no spirit, very obscure character with no fan support

Celica (Fire Emblem) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

ZX (Mega Man) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Tron Bonne (Mega Man) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Kumatora (Earthbound) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Makoto (Street Fighter) = Unlikely
Reason: Although no spirit, not a very popular pick for DLC

Ibuki (Street Fighter) = Very unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

R.Mika (Street Fighter) = Unlikely
Reason: Although no spirit, not a very popular pick for DLC

Juri (Street Fighter) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Menat (Street Fighter) = Unlikely
Reason: Although no spirit, not a very popular pick for DLC

Poison (Street Fighter) = Unlikely
Reason: Although no spirit, not a very popular pick for DLC

Sakura (Street Fighter) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Melia (Xenoblade) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Shanoa (Castlevania) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Sypha (Castlevania) = Unlikely
Reason: Although no spirit, not a very popular pick for DLC

Yoko (Castlevania) = Very unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Charlotte (Castlevania) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Blaze (Sonic the Hedgehog) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Captain Syrup (Wario Land) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Ashley (Wario Ware) = Extremely Unlikely
Reason: Already an Assist Trophy

Mona (Wario Ware) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

King (King of Fighters) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Kyo Kusangi) has not appeared yet

Leona (King of Fighters) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Kyo Kusangi) has not appeared yet

Shiki (Samurai Showdown) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Haohmaru) has not appeared yet

Blue Mary (Fatal Fury) = Somewhat Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Terry Bogard) has appeared in Smash Bros and is unrepresented in game. May appear as a Spirit though.

Mai (Fatal Fury) = Somewhat Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Terry Bogard) has appeared in Smash Bros and is unrepresented in game. May appear as a Spirit though.

Mature (King of Fighters) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Kyo Kusangi) has not appeared yet

Miriam (BloodStatined) = Unlikely
Reason: Indie character, genre already represented by Castlevania

May (Guilty Gear) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Sol Badguy) has not appeared yet

I-No (Guilty Gear) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Sol Badguy) has not appeared yet

ABA (Guilty Gear) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Sol Badguy) has not appeared yet

Haehyun (Guilty Gear) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Sol Badguy) has not appeared yet

Jam (Guilty Gear) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Sol Badguy) has not appeared yet

Dizzy (Guilty Gear) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Sol Badguy) has not appeared yet

BB Hood (Darkstalkers) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Morrigan) has not appeared yet

Orie (Under Night In Birth) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Hyde Kido) has not appeared yet

Hilda (Under Night In Birth) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Hyde Kido) has not appeared yet

Pauline (Super Mario) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Pyra (Xenoblade) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Reimu Hakurei (Touhou) = Somewhat Unlikely
Reason: Indie character

Kat (Gravity Rush) = Borderline Impossible
Reason: Sony owned series

Akira Howard (Astral Chain) = Medium Possibility
Reason: First party but still has a chance as Bayonetta 2 was also published by Nintendo. Potential Fighters Pass 5?

Octoling (Splatoon) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Pearl & Marina (Splatoon) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Twintelle (Arms) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Min-Min (ARMS) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Krystal (Star Fox) = Extremely Unlikely
Reason: Already an Assist Trophy

Ayumi Tachibana (Famicom Detective Club) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Mach Rider (Mach Rider) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit
NOTE: The gender of Mach Rider is left ambigious

Marina Liteyears (Mischief Makers) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Obscure series,

Arle Nadja (Puyo Puyo) = Likely
Reason: Highly requested, unrepresented series, no competition.

Alis Landale (Phantasy Star) = Unsure
Reason: The transistion of making Phantasy Star an online game has left her chances quite ambigious.

Alicia Melchiott (Valkyria Chronicles) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Calude Wallace) has not appeared yet

Amy Rose (Sonic the Hedgehog) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Roll (Mega Man) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Heather Mason (Silent Hill) = Somewhat Unlikely
Reason: Although a protagonist, she will have to compete with James Sunderland and Harry Mason as the Silent Hill rep

Katrielle Layton (Professor Layton) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Hershel Layton) has not appeared yet

Velvet Crowe (Tales of Series) = Somewhat Unlikely
Reason: Although a protagonist, she has very heavy competition with Lloyd Irving as the Tales rep.

KOS-MOS (Xenosaga) = Somewhat Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Shion Uzuki) has not appeared yet, however KOS-MOS is a major character

Athena Asamiya (Psycho Soldier) = Unlikely
Reason: Although a protagonist, the series is very obscure. Even with King of Fighters, she is not the protagonist of the series.

Saber (Type-MOON) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Shirou Emiya) has not appeared yet

Mythra (Xenoblade) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Ana (Earthbound) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Paula (Earthbound) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Adeleine (Kirby) = Unlikely
Reason: Although not a spirit, she is a first party character which gives her a low priority

Brittany (Pikmin) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Alex (Minecraft) = Balanced Possibility
Reason: If Steve becomes available, Alex will most definitely be one of his alts.

Ms. Pac-Man (Pac-Man) = Unlikely
Reason: Although not a Spirit, she is very much the same as Pac-Man in terms of abilities

Medusa (Kid Icarus) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

The Sayonara Wild Hearts protagonist = Very Unlikely
Reason: Indie character, non-existent support

Ring Fit Trainer (Ring Fit Adventure) = Unlikely
Reason: Although she isn't a spirit and has a sudden increase in popularity, it seems too late to include her.

Ajna (Indivisible) = Unlikely
Reason: Indie character

Estelle Bright (Trails in the Sky) = Unlikely
Reason: Although the protagonist of the series, the character isn't very highly requested.

Daemon X pilot (Daemon X Machina) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Main characters are already spirits

Sophitia Alexandra (Soul Calibur) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonists (Siegfried/Nightmare) haven't appeared in the game.

Anna (Fire Emblem) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Kasumi Yoshizawa (Persona) = Unlikely
Reason: Although not a spirit, her first appearance in Persona 5 the Royal would be too late for DLC.

Ayane (Ninja Gaiden/Dead or Alive) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Kasumi) hasn't appeared in the game.

Mym (Dragalia Lost) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Euden) hasn't appeared in the game.

Katalina (Grandblue Fantasy) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonists (Gran and Djeeta) haven't appeared in the game.

Noel Vermillion (Blazblue) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Ragna the Bloodedge) hasn't appeared in the game.

Sakura Shinguji (Sakura Wars) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Although the protagonist of the game, not a popular fan request.

Kachi (Sin and Punishment) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Saki Amamiya and Isa Jo are both spirits

Jill Dozer (Drill Dozer) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Nina Williams (Tekken) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Jin Kazama/Heihachi Mishima) haven't appeared in the game (Heihachi is part of Pac-Man's taunt though)

Asuka (Tekken) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Jin Kazama/Heihachi Mishima) haven't appeared in the game (Heihachi is part of Pac-Man's taunt though)

Sami (Advance Wars) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist Andy is a spirit.

Kassandra (Assassin's Creed) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Although the main protagonist of Assassin's Creed Odyssey, Ubisoft seems to want to include Rayman first.

Aveline de Granpre (Assassin's Creed) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Although the main protagonist of Assassin's Creed Black Flag, Ubisoft seems to want to include Rayman first.

Tracer (Overwatch) = Somewhat Likely
Reason: Protagonist of the series but developer has spoken about her which lowers her chances

D. Va (Overwatch) = Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Tracer) hasn't appeared in the game

Mercy (Overwatch) = Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Tracer) hasn't appeared in the game

Monster Hunter (Monster Hunter) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Rathalos appears to represent the series as a whole.

Joanna Dark (Perfect Dark) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Although the main protagonist, she is not highly requested.

Shepard (Mass Effect) = Very Unlikely
Reason: No fan support

Phosphora (Kid Icarus) = Extremely Unlikely
Reason: Already an Assist Trophy

Lip (Panel de Pon) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Yuri Kozukata (Fatal Frame) = Extremely Unlikely
Reason: Already an Assist Trophy

Momiji (Ninja Gaiden) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Ryu Hayabusa) hasn't appeared in the game

Agitha (Legend of Zelda) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Toon Zelda (Legend of Zelda) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Medli (Legend of Zelda) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Marin (Legend of Zelda) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Jodie Summers (F-Zero) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Viridi (Kid Icarus) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Aigis (Persona) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Main character is a Mii costume

Coco Bandicoot (Crash Bandicoot) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Crash Bandicoot) has not appeared in the game

Junko Enoshima (Danganronpa) = Very Unlikely
Reason: She is not one of the protagonists of the series

Ada Wong (Resident Evil) = Very Unlikely
Reason: She is not one of the protagonists of the series

Agnes (Braverly Default) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Protagonist (Tiz Arrior) has not appeared in the game

Ruto (Legend of Zelda) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Gothitelle (Pokemon) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Although not a spirit, it originates from a generation past it's prime and is not highly requested.

Mipha (Legend of Zelda) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Urbosa (Legend of Zelda) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Already a Spirit

Linkle (Legend of Zelda) = Very Unlikely
Reason: Although not a spirit, Legend of Zelda characters other than Link, Zelda and Ganondorf are not reoccuring characters

I really do think you're selling Edelgard short here. I'd definitely put her on equal footing with Byleth. Just writing her off as "not the protagonist" is writing her off too easily when

Spoiler: Implied Three Houses spoilers

She's the co-protagonist of the first half of Silver Snow before becoming a major antagonist, she's the co-protagonist for the entirety of Crimson Flower, she's a major antagonist in Verdant Wind, and she's the MAIN antagonist of Azure Moon.

Add onto that the fact that she's the face of the game's marketing (she was the focus of the first trailer, she's getting a figma, and she was used alongside female Byleth as the headliner of Three Houses's debut banner in Heroes), her already high popularity (given the game's official deployment stats), and the fact that the game's main theme (Edge of Dawn) is literally about her and sung from her perspective, and she definitely has a case. The fact that Sakurai has been on record saying he wished more heroes used axes helps as well.

Also Sheeda is just the outdated European translation of Caeda, lol.

 

[AntagonisticGalaxyCetacea]

I'm still not understanding why people think Lara Croft is likely at all

 

[TheTuninator]

I really do think you're selling Edelgard short here. I'd definitely put her on equal footing with Byleth. Just writing her off as "not the protagonist" is writing her off too easily when

Spoiler: Implied Three Houses spoilers

She's the co-protagonist of the first half of Silver Snow before becoming a major antagonist, she's the co-protagonist for the entirety of Crimson Flower, she's a major antagonist in Verdant Wind, and she's the MAIN antagonist of Azure Moon.

Add onto that the fact that she's the face of the game's marketing (she was the focus of the first trailer, she's getting a figma, and she was used alongside female Byleth as the headliner of Three Houses's debut banner in Heroes), her already high popularity (given the game's official deployment stats), and the fact that the game's main theme (Edge of Dawn) is literally about her and sung from her perspective, and she definitely has a case. The fact that Sakurai has been on record saying he wished more heroes used axes helps as well.

Also Sheeda is just the outdated European translation of Caeda, lol.

Amen. I think Byleth is more likely, but assuming a FE3H rep does happen, Edelgard could easily get in over Byleth (especially since it would spare Nintendo the need to rig two different models for one character).