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What fan made rules? I'm not even gatekeeping Dovahkiin. All I said is that I couldn't imagine him being in Smash Bros because I think he would look out of place. I have never said that Dovahkiin should not be in Smash Bros. That is not my intention.
Fair enough but I think it's quite different from what the Metal Gear series does. Whatever that's just what I think.
My bad and I do apologize. It just sounded that way from what you were saying.
We already had this debate in the Doomguy thread, we don't need to start this up again. Dragonborn isn't any more realistic looking than Snake. (Though sorry if I'm saying this a bit late, kept getting inturrupted as I was typing this post)
No worries man. I do get rather passionate about this stuff sometimes but people can want whatever character they want.
I'm aware of that and I still stand by my argument. I still think Metal Gear is way less realistic looking than Skyrim. That doesn't mean you can't want the Dovahkiin but I'm allowed to express my opinion if the character comes up.
Can't help but think that place is too heated to have a polite discussion.
Oh definitely. Metal Gear seems to have a more...odd sense of humor.
Wait, why would Lucina be cut? She’s the most popular character of the Awakening trio and she’s directly over Marth as an Echo, and Marth will always be a part of the roster, so there’s no reason to cut his echo if he’s there. She’s also the sole female only FE character, and while I don’t think characters get added for being female, I can definitely see a completely valid stance behind keeping her as one of the female fighters in Smash since she’s also just Marth’s clone.
You see Drifloon, I largely agree with you, but respect a two way street. There are people in here who clearly treat other users with disrespect, and to ask for people to respect those users feels like asking for a bit too much to me. I'll treat people with respect only if they treat others the same.
NO! Kill them with kindness! WE! MUST! HAVE! PEACE! *Starts a peace rally that turns into a riot*
That's what I was going with. It has that Kojima quirk that on the outside it doesn't seem like it belongs in Smash but it's that inside ridiculousness that makes it fit regardless.
Wait I thought Chrom was the most popular of the awakening trio?
The Intelligent Systems devs didn't think Chrom would be the most popular male character in the first Choose Your Legends poll.
I'm pretty sure she's the most popular because of...reasons that have nothing to do with making her your wife.
A few Reddit posts from the Fire Emblem subreddit nail the reasons why Lucina is popular:
TheLaserSonic said:
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/a16d1u/why_does_everyone_like_lucina/PsiYoshi said:
Wow! I had a look at this choose your legends poll and she was second place on the first poll and then completely disappeared from the 2nd and 3rd ones.
It's just that Smash fanbase were clamouring for Chrom to join the game while everyone was just more "eh" with Lucina from what I've seen.
Man those posts really make me remember the solid story beneath Awakening's awkward writing and wonky pacing. I know it's far too soon, but I'd love to see what an Awakening remake could do to the story. Hopefully it'd be something similar to what Shadows of Valentia did to the original Gaiden.
Because she was removed from the poll after winning.
The top 2 male and female characters are removed from subsequent CYL polls when they win. Don't need Camilla to dominate the polls and keep getting CYL alts.
'd.Previous winners are removed from subsequent Choose Your Legends polls.
The top 2 male and female characters are removed from subsequent CYL polls when they win. Don't need Camilla to dominate the polls and keep getting CYL alts.
EDIT:
My bad. I didn't look too much into it and didn't see those rules. I just focused on the results rather than the rules which was pretty dumb of me.
And clones. You can't forget clones
Personally I don't really care, sorry. I don't believe that Sakurai or Nintendo are ignoring female characters (either deliberately or subsconsciously), and I don't care about the character's gender. If I felt like they were being ignored due to sexism, sure, but that's not really the case.
From what I've seen Lucina isn't as popular as Chrom, though I could be mistaken. A better reason is that I don't think the Smash community specifically would care much about her leaving, whereas Chrom did cause a big reaction when he was snubbed.
Because when you talk about characters' merits, people start piling on you for talking about "deserving".
I mean, it's easier to notice a fanbase complaining than it is to notice a fanbase celebrating. Back in Smash 4, most people just didn't really expect Lucina since everyone was just absolutely focussed on Chrom. When she did end up happening, it was really more of a very pleasant surprise. With all the jokes and memes that ensued over Chrom not making it in, it's no surprise that that reaction was more noticable. And really, the aforementioned CYL poll should be more telling than anything else. Lucina got second place overall (as in, both male and female characters), losing only to Lyn, and got almost twice as many votes as Chrom. Chrom meanwhile was on two more CYL polls, and has yet to win a single one.
Hey, I never complained about cartoony punchy dudes per se, just pointed out the hypocrisy. I'd cheer if Crash ever gets in after all
I feel that's more of Robin than Chrom though. Robin was pretty much the focus of Awakening even though Chrom was the lord for the game
Smash fans would hate Lucina being cut just as much as Chrom, and you lose some of the easiest additional female representation in the game.
Really only the final portion of Awakening shifts the focus heavily toward Robin. For most of the game, Chrom is absolutely the focus of the story.
I was thinking at least the back half of the game, Robin started becoming more of the focus since it was about Robin finding out who s/he is during that back half after slowly recovering memories.
Pragmatism isn't really a cornerstone of our community, unfortunately. I think it's clear that there are indeed folks who are just ****ing excited for anything Smash related. Those individuals are usually the most enjoyable to have in on speculation, anyways. You don't have to present a case against every character that might be at odds with your favorite's chances. Someone can rail on Fire Emblem all day and say that there's no sense in it getting another representative in lieu of the aforementioned Dixie Kong (Easy example). But Kirby fans could use similar logic against Donkey Kong representation since they received a new fighter in Ultimate already. The lapse in logic here is the assumption that just because someone wants a character or thinks they're deserving, they aren't appreciative enough of the representation said series already has.
Aside from the seven months thing, this sounds like something that could be done for Smash, like the Ninja Turtles and their customizable moveset in Injustice 2.
When was this? There was very little support for Chrom in the leadup to either Sm4sh or Ultimate.
I seem to recall Chrom being heavily predicted prior to the announcement of both Lucina and Robin. Not sure if that is really representative of fan demand at the time, though.
