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Agumon is in a gray area in regards to whether or not the digital devices the Digimon franchise originated from count as video games.
Oh boy. There’s a lot to unpack here. Probably best not to. Other than to say that, well
He is no more 4th party than Mr. Game n Watch.
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100% agree. I was legit pissed after that Direct. Of course I calmed down not too long after and I know Sakurai thought it’d be a fun idea to have PP playable and wasn’t trying to hurt anyone’s feelings, but that hurt.
Calling it now: Ring Fit Adventure wins GOTY and the main character gets announced for Smash right then and there.
I know I keep looking for stuff explaining this DLC approach, but frankly, if I want to be convinced that first-party characters are coming soon, then Sakurai will have to include them, because at this point, I'm only seeing Nintendo showing they're not interested in their own stuff.
If Hatsune Miku gets in, I hope Clippy follows suit.
'Hey look, they added Paper Mario as DLC.'
I think it depends on how "big" the character is or what characters are ready to be shown at the time (whether it be FP #5 or maybe even a character post FP.
I really agree with you.
This logic always seemed the most sound to me as far as the Fighters Pass goes. If you're trying to hook people who haven't purchased the Fighters Pass already, you'd want a big name with big clickbait/headline appeal that would garner a lot of attention.
"I hope he comes with the Glitz Pit or at least a theatre stage". Literally my main reason for wanting Papes is a decent Paper Mario stage.
I agree. To me Smash is first and foremost a Nintendo all-star fighter. This is why Banjo to me was the most important DLC in Ultimate; he represents the N64 era and Nintendo’s Disney/Pixar-esque partnership with Rare in the 90s. Wii Fit Trainer so perfectly represents the Wii era and that auxiliary hardware that came in that time period. She is also a very unique character
I'd be ecstatic.
The reflection of the Smash logo on the visor is amazing. Same scale of "WOOOOAH" I'd have as with the Inkling's reveal (With the logo rising up then reflecting off their eye) if they did it as amazingly as that.
I always though Paper Mario was an obvious choice for a newcomer back in Sm4sh and the fact he's not in still surprises me. Ultimate eventually came out and even a Piranha Plant got in, but not him. That only show us that the mentality of "shoo-ins" can be a dangerous thing, as some people can get very disappointed when a character they had as a certain call end up being added as an assist trophy or not even added at any form.
Well I already started a support thread. You can even vote on if you think she'll be her own character, an echo, a semi clone or if I've gone mad.
You know, I love Paper Mario. The OG game and TTYD are two of my favorite games of all time. But my reaction to him would be okay.
I don't really get this take on Piranha Plant. He's as much of a piece of Nintendo history as any potential other candidate, and more importantly, he's a diversion from the ordinary rules of Smash. I feel like there's a lot of Nintendo fans who talk about wanting to go deeper into Nintendo's catalogue of characters for unique choices... and Piranha Plant is the absolute embodiment of that. And Plant is also much, much more important to Nintendo history than Ice Climbers ever could be. Sakurai just felt like including interesting characters most of the time (Pit is another example who just kind of got added just cause...) and Plant really isn't any different.
Paper Mario took a nose dive right around the time Smash 4 was being planned with Sticker Star, so unfortunately, I do see why he never got in.
Yep, It's the exact same thing as the Fighters Pass and I'm not surprised. I have no doubt in my mind that we're not getting any 1st party characters and I find that a bit disappointing but I'm sure many will have the exact opposite opinion.
The worst part about Piranha plant is the fact that Sakurai compared it to other "random" character like game & watch, rob and duck hunt. The thing is that all these characters share something in common that Piranha plant don't; they're retro characters that are iconic to Nintendo history, but kind of forgotten. Piranha plant is just a generic enemy.
I don't see what Piranha Plant represents that isn't already represented or wouldn't be better represented by someone else. Nor do I see its importance to Nintendo's history.
I dunno about not being iconic or generic. I mean, sure, it IS a generic enemy. They're everywhere. But they're enemies of one of the most iconic properties to ever exist and clearly had enough to work with for a move set compared to something like Goombas or Koopas (Outside maybe Hammer Bros). Though I'm in a camp where I don't mind. I think the character is hilarious and fun to play, plus he was a bonus (Since I got the game day one and didn't have to pay extra) though I'm sure those who got the game later might not find him appealing enough to pay for if they got the game later.
Piranha Plant is like the most iconic Mario enemy. He’s practically synonymous with the series. He’s on all types of merchandise. And he’s been around since the first game.
This kind of thinking is kinda exaggerated. The game's already composed of 90% Nintendo characters, to begin with. When they add characters from other companies, they have the opportunity to bring more different worlds into Smash - something that some Nintendo's own IP's can bring too, of course, but not in the same degree as third-party characters.
But... Piranha plant is a retro character?
Oh, don't get me wrong. I like the idea of Piranha Plant being in Smash. I just see Paper Mario as a wasted opportunity of a character. He would be a perfect fighter - popularity, music, stage, there's so much potential in there.
