Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Kokiden]

Also Can I ask this thread a Question

Is it me, or Does Sephiroth look Scarier and more unhinged in this game than Usual?

Must be the eyeliner.

 

[Momotsuki]

Honestly, I feel alone here in really, really liking the character designs unique to the Smash series, from the big baddies all the way down to the mooks. Seriously - the enemy designs in Smash, the mooks in SSE especially, are really fantastic. Galeem is probably one of my favorite character designs in general. There's something about him that transcends a forum rambling. Wonder where I could see a bit more of this visual direction; Smash is too busy with the "crossover" rubbish to really explore it more than it has already.

 

[Speed Weed]

re: indie characters

This is a shot in the dark and I wouldn't call him too likely but

Y'all

What if we got CommanderVideo

 

[Mapusaurus]

So some people thought it would have been best if Sephiroth's trailer started with the villain TV thing.

Well here is a version with Sephiroth.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

that looks pretty decent i could see it show up in a dixie kong trailer

 

[Mamboo07]

Honestly, I feel alone here in really, really liking the character designs unique to the Smash series, from the big baddies all the way down to the mooks. Seriously - the enemy designs in Smash, the mooks in SSE especially, are really fantastic. Galeem is probably one of my favorite character designs in general. There's something about him that transcends a forum rambling. Wonder where I could see a bit more of this visual direction; Smash is too busy with the "crossover" rubbish to really explore it more than it has already.

Galeem is based on this:

That's what an angel looks like.

 

[Kokiden]

As a Sheik main, that katana reach looks absolutely terrifying. View attachment 295354
He's not going to be fun to fight, is he?

Personally, I don't think he'll be too bad to go up against tbh.

I actually think he'll disappoint a lot of people since he won't be OP like they're thinking lol

Going by how they're balancing the game in general, there have been no OP characters. I'd even go so far as to say they're very conservative with how they balance the game to the detriment of a lot of characters tbh.

 

[Momotsuki]

Galeem is based on this:
View attachment 295369
That's what an angel looks like.

I'm aware Galeem is based off of our good chum Seraphim, and so is our other lovely pal who put Galeem through his paces recently. There's certainly more to him, and other aspects of the art direction of the Smash-specific characters that I'm really starving for, though.

 

[PacificFun]

Personally, I don't think he'll be too bad to go up against tbh.

I actually think he'll disappoint a lot of people since he won't be OP like they're thinking lol

Going by how they're balancing the game in general, there have been no OP characters. I'd even go so far as to say they're very conservative with how they balance the game to the detriment of a lot of characters tbh.

OP and irritating to fight are two different things. For example, I'll take a Joker over a Donkey Kong any day of the week.

 

[Momotsuki]

Personally, I don't think he'll be too bad to go up against tbh.



I actually think he'll disappoint a lot of people since he won't be OP like they're thinking lol



Going by how they're balancing the game in general, there have been no OP characters. I'd even go so far as to say they're very conservative with how they balance the game to the detriment of a lot of characters tbh.

The balance is certainly not perfect; it never will be, but for a roster this size it is really good. Some characters are going to be better than others in a competitive environment, you can't avoid that, but I don't think anyone is so good as to be problematic nor is anyone so bad as to be unusable. There's certainly fighters that might need a bit of work one way or the other, but not urgently.

OP and irritating to fight are two different things. For example, I'll take a Joker over a Donkey Kong any day of the week.

My pocket DK is pretty sad that you said that. I'm not asking you to apologize but it might make him feel a bit better.

 

[Mamboo07]

I'm aware Galeem is based off of our good chum Seraphim, and so is our other lovely pal who put Galeem through his paces recently. There's certainly more to him, and other aspects of the art direction of the Smash-specific characters that I'm really starving for, though.

And Dharkon resembles something out of the Cthulhu Mythos aka Lovecraft, most noticeably looking like Azathoth and Yog-Sothoth.

 

[Mamboo07]

I'm aware Galeem is based off of our good chum Seraphim, and so is our other lovely pal who put Galeem through his paces recently. There's certainly more to him, and other aspects of the art direction of the Smash-specific characters that I'm really starving for, though.

And Dharkon resembles something out of the Cthulhu Mythos aka Lovecraft, most noticeably looking like Azathoth and Yog-Sothoth.
Edit: wtf double post

 

[N3ON]

re: indie characters

This is a shot in the dark and I wouldn't call him too likely but

Y'all

What if we got CommanderVideo

I'd like to get him back as a spirit at least just because by the time all is said and done it seems like basically every series is going to return in some form except his.

 

[PacificFun]

My pocket DK is pretty sad that you said that. I'm not asking you to apologize but it might make him feel a bit better.

DK's cheese can be so unfun to play against tbh. And it sucks because he's pretty awful besides that (I'm saying this as someone with a pocket K. Rool).

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Here's an absolute never ever call. What if we got Umineko in Smash? Obviously it's not gonna happen as all but like 3 people in this thread would ask "literally what" but all I'm saying is that the music would be great and here's why

Warning, some naughty words, but admit it, these would be cool to fight in

 

[Momotsuki]

With how unusually buddy-buddy BIT.TRIP had managed to be with Smash previously, I'm actually kind of surprised CommanderVideo never made the cut. Though really I imagine he's a "base game or bust" type pick, leaving it water under the bridge.

DK's cheese can be so unfun to play against tbh. And it sucks because he's pretty awful besides that (I'm saying this as someone with a pocket K. Rool).

I barely use the cargo throw, I'm too busy throwing kill moves around like, well, a raging 800lb gorilla. It's probably not optimal but I'm having fun.

 

[Shroob]

Here's an absolute never ever call. What if we got Umineko in Smash? Obviously it's not gonna happen as all but like 3 people in this thread would ask "literally what" but all I'm saying is that the music would be great and here's why

Warning, some naughty words, but admit it, these would be cool to fight in

Say it in red that we'll never get it in Smash.

....said 3 people will understand the reference.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Say it in red that we'll never get it in Smash.

....said 3 people will understand the reference.

You really think I'm the authority on that?
Shroob, you are incompetent!
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Deleted member]

Say it in red that we'll never get it in Smash.

....said 3 people will understand the reference.

I've literally never heard of Umineko until just now, lmao.

 

[Kokiden]

The balance is certainly not perfect; it never will be, but for a roster this size it is really good. Some characters are going to be better than others in a competitive environment, you can't avoid that, but I don't think anyone is so good as to be problematic nor is anyone so bad as to be unusable. There's certainly fighters that might need a bit of work one way or the other, but not urgently.

Out of the entire roster, Sheik comes to mind.

They did her so dirty in ultimate poor thing. Just my opinion of course I'm sure some won't agree.

OP and irritating to fight are two different things. For example, I'll take a Joker over a Donkey Kong any day of the week.

Fair point.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

I'm going to post a hot take, but Subspace Emissary was better than Smash Run.

Smash Run had far better traits, such as enemies, and it sounds quite cool. However, I just adore the character interactions in Subspace Emissary.

Hot takes are supposed to be unpopular opinions, Shiny.

 

[Deleted member]

Hot takes are supposed to be unpopular opinions, Shiny.

This is an unpopular opinion. I hear everyone gushing over Smash Run, while being quite critical over Subspace Emissary.

There are some valid criticisms to make of Subspace, but I prefer it over Smash Run.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

This is an unpopular opinion. I hear everyone gushing over Smash Run, while being quite critical over Subspace Emissary.

There are some valid criticisms to make of Subspace, but I prefer it over Smash Run in my opinion.

To be fair, Smash Run actually is more fun than Subspace Emissary due to its more engaging gameplay. Now THAT is a hot take!

And like you said, the criticisms for Subspace are valid, but the cutscenes make the whole ride worth doing and is the big reason why everyone praises it.

Without these cutscenes, who knows what people would be thinking of the mode?

 

[Momotsuki]

If you have an unpopular opinion, I've found the best way to present it is to state it not only as though it's a fact, but as though it's common knowledge that everyone already agrees on. This is the way, none of this "hot take" claptrap.

 

[Deleted member]

To be fair, Smash Run actually plays better than Subspace Emissary. Now THAT is a hot take!

And like you said, the criticisms for Subspace are valid, but the cutscenes make the whole ride worth doing and is the big reason why everyone praises it.

Without these cutscenes, who knows what people would be thinking of the mode?

Subspace did have more than just cutscenes, like the bosses. The levels did get a bit tedious at times, but overall, it was a very fun experience.

And no Uni. That isn't a hot take, in my opinion. Everyone loves Smash Run a lot. My idea for a perfect Subspace Emissary would to take all of Smash Run, add some bosses and cutscenes, and boom.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Subspace did have more than just cutscenes, like the bosses. The levels did get a bit tedious at times, but overall, it was a very fun experience.

And no Uni. That isn't a hot take, in my opinion. Everyone loves Smash Run a lot.

My edit sure was a hot take tho

To be fair, Smash Run actually is more fun than Subspace Emissary due to its more engaging gameplay. Now THAT is a hot take!

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Galeem is based on this:
View attachment 295369
That's what an angel looks like.

Sephiroth's trailer is especially fitting with Galeem which as you already mentioned was based on Seraphim given he's called the One Winged Angel. Galeem also represents light which angels do.

 

[Momotsuki]

If, if, if the 5chan leak is legit, then I'd wager Crash being Fighter 10, just because I can't imagine KOS-MOS and Reimu being back-to-back. I don't know which of the two would be Fighters 9 and 11, just that they'd probably both be one of those. If these are our remaining fighters, Crash would be a great way to bridge two characters that may draw ire for their "weeb" appeal by people with bad taste.

If Crash ends up being Fighter 9, I don't think that's enough to get the 5chan leak out of the woods when it come to skepticism; if you can nail Sephiroth by pure chance, then Crash is easy mode.

With that said, if Fighter 9 is Reimu or KOS-MOS, I'm officially all-in, and will no longer be able to be reasoned with. You can't guess two relatively outsider choices in a row with only three bets in that field. It's just not something that happens. I paid attention in math class, and the odds explode out of your favor.

 

[Deleted member]

Lol, that isn't a hot take either. Way more people in here prefer Smash Run over Subspace Emissary.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Lol, that isn't a hot take either. Way more people in here prefer Smash Run over Subspace Emissary.

Prove it, kid.

Why do I always have an avatar that makes me look more savage than I actually am? lmao

 

[I.D.]

Sorry people will be mad Lora wasnt Rex.

I fixed it.

Nah. From everything I've seen outside this site people just want Monolith to not get completely skipped in Ultimate at this point. Only a handful of truly hardcore Rex/Elma stans would get genuinely upset.

 

[dezeray112]

So the remaining reveals will either be one of these (if this correct):

1. 3 First Party Characters
2. 3 Third Party Characters
3. 2 First Party Characters and a Third Party Character
4. 2 Third Party Characters and a First Party Character

I'm still guessing and leaning on the remaining three reveals could be 2 first party characters and a third party character. But at this stage its really hard to tell where this will go as anything can happen.

 

[Deleted member]

Prove it, kid.

Hey everyone? Do you prefer Smash Run or Subspace Emissary? Let me know, please. DM me, so it doesn't clog the thread.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Hey everyone? Do you prefer Smash Run or Subspace Emissary? Let me know, please. DM me, so it doesn't clog the thread.

Nah, it can clog the thread. New discussion topics are great.

Plus, I'd see the results too so I know you aren't lying

 

[Nekoo]

The positive side of not Getting Sora, is that, when he'll happens, we'll very much probably get a trailer of him jumping in to help Cloud deal with Sephiroth whenever it's this pass as a follow-up to this trailer, or in another smash game where Sephiroth and Cloud fight for the bazillion's time.
And if this AC fight recreation Trailer quality is of any indication.
I just see it as a win.


I'm also way too excited to see Sephiroth in action, and how the Highwind will play a part in the stage transition,and how the stage will looks like! And Also, SUPERNOVA FINAL SMASH IN HD...LEZ GO.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

The positive side of not Getting Sora, is that, when he'll happens, we'll very much probably get a trailer of him jumping in to help Cloud deal with Sephiroth whenever it's this pass as a follow-up to this trailer, or in another smash game where Sephiroth and Cloud fight for the bazillion's time.
And if this AC fight recreation Trailer quality is of any indication.
I just see it as a win.


I'm also way too excited to see Sephiroth in action, and how the Highwind will play a part in the stage transition,and how the stage will looks like! And Also, SUPERNOVA FINAL SMASH IN HD...LEZ GO.

Dante could also work as a continuation of Sephiroth's trailer referencing Vergil.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Hey everyone? Do you prefer Smash Run or Subspace Emissary? Let me know, please. DM me, so it doesn't clog the thread.

Subspace, though that might be the nostalgia. But I think Smash Run and Subspace are vastly different modes, Subspace was a big campaign and Smash Run was more arcade-like. World of Light is a weird combination of both with the pros of neither but still quite enjoyable to play through.

So the remaining reveals will either be one of these (if this correct):

1. 3 First Party Characters
2. 3 Third Party Characters
3. 2 First Party Characters and a Third Party Character
4. 2 Third Party Characters and a First Party Character

I'm still guessing and leaning on the remaining three reveals could be 2 first party characters and a third party character. But at this stage its really hard to tell where this will go as anything can happen.

I’m guessing two third parties and a first party, though I can see two first parties and a third party too. I‘m pretty sure the last character is first party but otherwise it depends on whether Waluigi joins the fight before then.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

So the remaining reveals will either be one of these (if this correct):

1. 3 First Party Characters
2. 3 Third Party Characters
3. 2 First Party Characters and a Third Party Character
4. 2 Third Party Characters and a First Party Character

I'm still guessing and leaning on the remaining three reveals could be 2 first party characters and a third party character. But at this stage its really hard to tell where this will go as anything can happen.

Option 4 as my current prediction is Palicos, Crash Bandicoot, and Impa.

 

[Nekoo]

So the remaining reveals will either be one of these (if this correct):

1. 3 First Party Characters
2. 3 Third Party Characters
3. 2 First Party Characters and a Third Party Character
4. 2 Third Party Characters and a First Party Character

I'm still guessing and leaning on the remaining three reveals could be 2 first party characters and a third party character. But at this stage its really hard to tell where this will go as anything can happen.

My prediction, and even more with STEVE taking YEARS to get a deal, and getting MOTHER****ING SEPHIROTH is that this Fighter pass had a MUCH BIGGER budget than the previous one.
I'm going with either 3Third party.
Or 2 Third Party and one First Party.

I'm also worried for the next character...Following up on both Steve and Sephiroth....OOOF- god forbid if it's a controversial pick, or a "lesser known/newer" first party like a Pokémon.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

The positive side of not Getting Sora, is that, when he'll happens, we'll very much probably get a trailer of him jumping in to help Cloud deal with Sephiroth whenever it's this pass as a follow-up to this trailer, or in another smash game where Sephiroth and Cloud fight for the bazillion's time.
And if this AC fight recreation Trailer quality is of any indication.
I just see it as a win.


I'm also way too excited to see Sephiroth in action, and how the Highwind will play a part in the stage transition,and how the stage will looks like! And Also, SUPERNOVA FINAL SMASH IN HD...LEZ GO.

I ****ing despise KH's audacity to have all this dumb bull**** so I cannot ****ing handle seeing this in a Smash trailer because they WILL include this line

KH fans are on such a different level that they weren't phazed by Sephy killing Mario I hate this


Supernova better be a 2 minute long final smash or else I want a refund for my Switch

 

[Nekoo]

I ing despise KH's audacity to have all this dumb bull so I cannot ****ing handle seeing this in a Smash trailer because they WILL include this line

KH fans are on such a different level that they weren't phazed by Sephy killing Mario I hate this


Supernova better be a 2 minute long final smash or else I want a refund for my Switch

May I remind you that KH fans are so used to this kind of BS that we're not even battling an Eye that Nomura is using it to revive FF-Versus XIII and just roll with it with a simple "Yes, continue."