Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Direct tomorrow confirmed! Get hype everyone

Tune in 9/4 at 3pm PT for a #NintendoDirect featuring roughly 40 minutes of information focused on 2019 #NintendoSwitch games, including #PokemonSwordShield and #LuigisMansion 3.https://t.co/d1Xx3bDbhq pic.twitter.com/S8w1HkTg62

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) September 3, 2019

Alright way sooner than thought

Hope banjo and 5.0 get talked about here

 

[ROBnWatch]

I have one class on Wednesdays and of course it’s 2-3:15. Shame. Though I suppose I won’t be missing much if they reveal Terry as the next character since he’s been leaked and I could care less.

EDIT: Oh wait it’s 3pm PT meaning I can still watch it live since my class will be done by then.

 

[Nquoid]

*Lives in EU*

*Sees the time, knows that I return to my job tomorrow after my paid vacation ends*

There goes my sleep schedule.

Also in the EU but on vacation with family. So I'm going to have sneak off to watch this I feel...

I have one class on Wednesdays and of course it’s 2-3:15. Shame. Though I suppose I won’t be missing much if they reveal Terry as the next character since he’s been leaked and I could care less.

Theres rumblings of unannounced first party stuff if that sweetens the deal?

 

[Ridrool64]

Don't expect Terry to get anything before we know about Banjo's moveset, Spiral Mountain, and the contents of the 5.0 update including the Microsoft Mii Costumes and Banjo-Kazooie Spirit Board.

 

[Flik]

Kyo is..well..he's essentially a Ryu/Ken clone in both style and moveset.

Kyo is as similar to Ryu as as Ryu is to Ganondorf.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

I think at the very least we'd get a reveal trailer.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Don't expect Terry to get anything before we know about Banjo's moveset, Spiral Mountain, and the contents of the 5.0 update including the Microsoft Mii Costumes and Banjo-Kazooie Spirit Board.

Which can be shown in this direct

You only need a third of the direct for that part and then in the ending show off the 4th character pack trailer

 

[TheCJBrine]

Sabi "says" the fourth Fighter is Terry. Sabi said that the image of a bird on a roof was a clue for the fourth Fighter. But both have nothing in common... except the star.

Sabi didn’t say what the bird image is for, people just assumed it could be for Smash.

The source of the image finally told Fatmanonice and others in their private discord, but they’re not allowed to say what it’s for. I have a feeling it’s not Smash-related based on what he’s said and talked about, though, but I don’t know for sure.

anyway, gimme Pikmin 4, Nintendo.

 

[Deleted member]

So how would this board explode of Sabi and Vergeben got played by nintendo and it wasnt Terry at all?

>it’s not Terry, it’s Mai
Imagine the ****storm.

 

[zferolie]

>it’s not Terry, it’s Mai
Imagine the ****storm.

I would laugh my butt off and the salt and insanity that would happen

 

[Perkilator]

>it’s not Terry, it’s Mai

As a newborn Mai fan, I’d approve.

 

[yeet123]

Don't expect Terry to get anything before we know about Banjo's moveset, Spiral Mountain, and the contents of the 5.0 update including the Microsoft Mii Costumes and Banjo-Kazooie Spirit Board.

My bet is the Direct will say, "Stay tuned for a Sakurai-Direct next week". And thats the most Banjo news we'll hear tm...

UNLESS RARE REPLAY IS ANNOUNCED

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Iamshifty is back

Put it short

Had no idea about SNK character

Still confident on Ryu Hayabusa so esentially they now saying ryu is the 5th pack now reminder they may have not known which pack has ryu hayabusa

 

[-crump-]

I wonder when Terry will be shown during the Direct; usually Smash reveals are either the beginning or the very end, but I could see them throwing in his trailer right after they talk about Banjo’s release, assuming that happens. He’s a pretty niche character so depending what else they have in store they may not want to keep him as the grand reveal.

 

[MrElectroG64]

Did something hit you in the head or something

Vergeben got nothing incorrect about smash ultimate so far

steve

 

[zferolie]

Iamshifty is back

Put it short

Had no idea about SNK character

Still confident on Ryu Hayabusa so esentially they now saying ryu is the 5th pack now reminder they may have not known which pack has ryu hayabusa

Again, we just dont know if there sources are correct for sure. It is possible they got tricked, like the 7 square names flying around as leak bait.

We need to wait and see for sure

 

[TheCJBrine]

steve

He said Minecraft content, not Steve.

Could be a mii costume with B&K.

 

[zferolie]

He said Minecraft content, not Steve.

Could be a mii costume with B&K.

He was at one point saying hitagi was right about steve in smash as playable, but later changed it.

No one is infalible. He didnt know richter after all

 

[MrElectroG64]

He said Minecraft content, not Steve.

Could be a mii costume with B&K.

He said steve himself would be in before he back-peddled to just "minecraft content." either way he was wrong about it. He also claimed that K. Rool wasn't going to be in for the longest time before doing a complete 180 and saying he's in like a day before K. Rool got announced. Hell, he did the same thing with STEVE before banjo got announced, saying steve and pulling a 180 at the last second to say banjo and """"""erdrick""""" are in.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

steve

Wrong...

He said Minecraft content is coming to smash not Steve

Based of banjo he probably now knows Steve is probably a mii costume now

 

[TheCJBrine]

He was at one point saying hitagi was right about steve in smash as playable, but later changed it.

No one is infalible. He didnt know richter after all

I don’t recall him saying Hitagi was right, just that he trusted them or knew they were telling the truth or whatever. He never backed the Steve claim as being correct, just that he could see it happening despite not being told Steve himself aside from one person he didn’t bank on.

He said steve himself would be in before he back-peddled to just "minecraft content." either way he was wrong about it. He also claimed that K. Rool wasn't going to be in for the longest time before doing a complete 180 and saying he's in like a day before K. Rool got announced. Hell, he did the same thing with STEVE before banjo got announced, saying steve and pulling a 180 at the last second to say banjo and """"""erdrick""""" are in.

He never banked on Steve, Hitagi did. Vergeben started with “Minecraft content” and still sees it as possible, he never backed Steve as anything more than a possibility.

 

[Opossum]

He was at one point saying hitagi was right about steve in smash as playable, but later changed it.

No one is infalible. He didnt know richter after all

Not knowing something isn't the same as getting something wrong. He never said Richter wouldn't happen.

 

[zferolie]

My bet is the Direct will say, "Stay tuned for a Sakurai-Direct next week". And thats the most Banjo news we'll hear tm...

UNLESS RARE REPLAY IS ANNOUNCED

God if we got a shadow drop rare replay download during the direct I'll lose it.

So i know this isnt the case but what of all that ryu stuff was for this accidentally

Legendary ninja Ryu Hayabusa joins the playable roster of Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate, out in February: https://t.co/fGi4ymZJgG pic.twitter.com/cdnkj9X0TY

— PlayStation (@PlayStation) September 3, 2019

 

[Rie Sonomura]

My bet is the Direct will say, "Stay tuned for a Sakurai-Direct next week". And thats the most Banjo news we'll hear tm...

UNLESS RARE REPLAY IS ANNOUNCED

Do they usually have Smash directs a WEEK AFTER a regular one? I thought it’s just one direct a month

Iamshifty is back

Put it short

Had no idea about SNK character

Still confident on Ryu Hayabusa so esentially they now saying ryu is the 5th pack now reminder they may have not known which pack has ryu hayabusa

Well if they’re right about more DLC on the way, I’ll accept the Terry/Hayabusa leak being true. The fact they “didn’t know” which pack had Hayabusa is kinda sus though

Oh well, as long as my girl Elma will have a chance in future packs...

 

[Opossum]

God if we got a shadow drop rare replay download during the direct I'll lose it.

So i know this isnt the case but what of all that ryu stuff was for this accidentally

Oh hey, Ryu Hayabusa is in Ultimate.

 

[zferolie]

I don’t recall him saying Hitagi was right, just that he trusted them or knew they were telling the truth or whatever. He never backed the Steve claim as being correct, just that he could see it happening despite not being told Steve himself aside from one person he didn’t bank on.



He never banked on Steve, Hitagi did. Vergeben started with “Minecraft content” and still sees it as possible, he never backed Steve as anything more than a possibility.

I suppose that is splitting hairs but accurate.

Not knowing something isn't the same as getting something wrong. He never said Richter wouldn't happen.

But he was wrong on SE being the first dlc pack. We has saying that at least.

Oh hey, Ryu Hayabusa is in Ultimate.

Haha man i didnt notice ultimate was in that title lol.

 

[MrElectroG64]

Wrong...

He said Minecraft content is coming to smash not Steve

Based of banjo he probably now knows Steve is probably a mii costume now

Mind telling me where that minecraft boss went?

 

[Deleted member]

So i know this isnt the case but what of all that ryu stuff was for this accidentally

Legendary ninja Ryu Hayabusa joins the playable roster of Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate, out in February: https://t.co/fGi4ymZJgG pic.twitter.com/cdnkj9X0TY

— PlayStation (@PlayStation) September 3, 2019

First Persona 5 Scramble and now Ryu Hayabusa returning to Warriors Orochi.

At this rate, I'm convinced a Warriors character is guaranteed to be in the Fighter Pass now.

 

[Izanagi97]

4. MGS2 Raiden (Snake Echo) - Yes, an echo is on my top 5. Raiden is my favourite Metal Gear Solid protagonist and, given the playstyle of MGS2, it'd be easy to port him over. Maybe attach a few swordsmen's moves to change him up from Snake a bit?

I'm more a fan of MGR Raiden if only for how ridiculous he is

1. Arbiter - While Master Chief is the more likely pick, and I'd still be super excited for him, Arbiter is who I really want. A Covenant-based moveset could bring so much to the table. Plasma grenades? Fuel rod cannons? Energy swords? Plasma pistols? There's so much that would work.

Forgot to mention the Covenant Carbine and Active Camo. I mean there is plenty of stuff to pull from the guest appearance in KI

 

[TheCJBrine]

Mind telling me where that minecraft boss went?

That was info he got closer to release, but yeah there was that he got wrong. Funnily enough it was the same day the game got leaked, and Vergeben was confused by the lack of the boss.

People were saying something about his source seeing “End_Dragon” in the files for Rathalos, but I’m not sure whether or not Vergeben actually said this or if that was just a theory based on datamines. However, Vergeben still believed in Minecraft content so the boss itself was very likely unrelated to his past info.

 

[lordvaati]

Did something hit you in the head or something

Vergeben got nothing incorrect about smash ultimate so far

The only questionable one to date was that we would get Minecraft content, which many translated to Steve(?) Being playable.
Personally though I think he will just end up as a Mii Swordfighter skin, even back then too.

 

[Selenite]

That was info he got closer to release, but yeah there was that he got wrong. Funnily enough it was the same day the game got leaked, and Vergeben was confused by the lack of the boss.

People were saying something about his source seeing “End_Dragon” in the files for Rathalos, but I’m not sure whether or not Vergeben actually said this or if that was just a theory based on datamines. However, Vergeben still believed in Minecraft content so the boss itself was very likely unrelated to his past info.

Supposedly, it isn't named that at all.

I've never heard of that. Rathalos is known internally as "lioleus" (its Japanese name) in most uses, "rathalos" for its stage, and "rathian" (interestingly, the name of its female counterpart?) for its spirit.

— Dr. HyperCake (@DrHyperCake) May 10, 2019

In most uses it goes by "lioleus", "rathalos" for its stage, and "rathian" for its spirit.

 

[TheCJBrine]

Supposedly, it isn't named that at all.

In most uses it goes by "lioleus", "rathalos" for its stage, and "rathian" for its spirit.

Okay then.

It still seems it was unrelated to Vergeben’s past info, but idk.

I just want a Steve costume because that’s all I can get at this point.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Mind telling me where that minecraft boss went?

There’s a rumor 5.0 update will have more boss’s particually gruntilla and a boss rush mode

 

[Rie Sonomura]

It’s almost crazy to believe Smash is already approaching 5.0 AND will go beyond PLUS ULTRA in future updates. Splatoon 2, who had two years worth of content, stopped at 5.0

If all the WoL slots are filled we’d deadass have version 17.0 as the final version number and that’s a bit surreal to think about

 

[SKX31]

The only questionable one to date was that we would get Minecraft content, which many translated to Steve(?) Being playable.
Personally though I think he will just end up as a Mii Swordfighter skin, even back then too.

Wouldn't be completely surprised if more Microsoft characters join Banjo later on. Of course this rests on one big assumption: That there will be more. And I dunno if Sakurai's up for that - the only possible piece of evidence we have are the datamined WoL slots. Still, the WoL slots allow for three theoretical Fighter Pass seasons - Steve and Chief could both fit into a hypotheoretical Season 2 and 3 seperately.

I've talked about the Switch's upcoming release in China - and my assumption that Smash will release there. There's no release day for the Switch just yet - the Chinese government hasn't approved the Switch's hardware yet. I should note, Nintendo's working with a goddamned megacorp on that. And said megacorp's integrating their own Skype (WeChat) into the Chinese Switch. If I'm a betting man I'd put the Switch's Chinese release at early 2020 (Late March / Early April 2020. I'm being conservative here.), with Smash around launch or not long after that. The tweet linked in the article notes that a lot of work's being done, and they did show off BotW there, but no release day yet.

It'd be really strange if Chinese Smash players only got to experience already-released DLC. And no further DLC past Feb. 2020.

 

[dezeray112]

With Terry Bogard being the most likely confirmed candidate as the fourth fighter in the pass, here are some songs that I would like to hear:

- Theme of Terry Bogard from Fatal Fury 2/Special
- Sunrise on the Train - Theme of Terry Bogard from Garou: Mark of the Wolves
- Mai Mai Kyunn - Theme of Mai Shiranui from Real Bout Fatal Fury Special
- Theme of Geese Howard from Fatal Fury Special
- Art of Fight from King of Fighters 98
- ESAKA Forever from King of Fighters 97

 

[GoodGrief741]

Inb4 tomorrow's Direct doesn't have Fighter 4.

*cue mass groans*

 

[Hadokeyblade]

First Persona 5 Scramble and now Ryu Hayabusa returning to Warriors Orochi.

At this rate, I'm convinced a Warriors character is guaranteed to be in the Fighter Pass now.

I mean, we have and so we technically already have Warriors characters lol

 

[Perkilator]

Can't wait for kaithehedgefox to say the SNK character should be an Assist Trophy.