Polan
Smash Lord
ninja gaiden music ****ing slaps like damn.
now i'm gonna be sad if he doesn't get in
now i'm gonna be sad if he doesn't get in
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There are a few takeaways I have for this. Since he hasn't made a public post on the topic yet, Vergeben probably doesn't believe Shifty because Verge's sources either told him a different name or didn't tell him anything about Smash DLC for him to make a strong educated guess. It is important to note Vergeben did back up Banjo-Kazooie being in Smash after Shinobi's vague Banjo-Kazooie post, and Shifty is still the only person whose flatout saying Ryu Hayabusa is next despite not making leak videos for any of the previous 3 DLC characters. Whether if he's right or wrong, I'm still hoping Hayabusa is indeed the next Fighter in the Pass since he's my most wanted pick.https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501288125914677250/617359671853973514/image0.jpg
Vergeben knows that the next fighter is not Ryu Hayabusa, still hoping that Lloyd Irving is the next fighter.
Probably Ninja Gaiden. After all, two Roys and two Ryus would probably kill all casual play in the game.So if we’re getting Ryu Hayabusa, any bets how the game will refer to him? Just Hayabusa? Ryu Hayabusa? Or just Ryu and confuse the heck out of casuals?
Ninja Gaiden’s the name of the game series though, it would be weird to refer to the character by thatProbably Ninja Gaiden. After all, two Roys and two Ryus would probably kill all casual play in the game.
I also don't really want three M rated game characters in the Fighter Pass.There are a few takeaways I have for this. Since he hasn't made a public post on the topic yet, Vergeben probably doesn't believe Shifty because Verge's sources either told him a different name or didn't tell him anything about Smash DLC for him to make a strong educated guess. It is important to note Vergeben did back up Banjo-Kazooie being in Smash after Shinobi's vague Banjo-Kazooie post, and Shifty is still the only person whose flatout saying Ryu Hayabusa is next despite not making leak videos for any of the previous 3 DLC characters. Whether if he's right or wrong, I'm still hoping Hayabusa is indeed the next Fighter in the Pass since he's my most wanted pick.
I also wanted to bring up Doom Slayer because I'm surprised people haven't said a 3rd M rated game character in the Pass would be the same as a 3rd JRPG character in the Pass. I can get that it's an apples to oranges comparison since 1 is an age rating and the other is a specific genre, but if I'm not keen on a 3rd JRPG character getting in like Lloyd or Velvet, I probably won't be keen on a 3rd adult rated game character getting in like Doomguy or Leon even if they're extremely different to Persona and Ninja Gaiden.
I feel like KOS-MOS would be more likely as both a female character and Bandai Namco rep, as even though she’s mostly cameos nowadays, more people know who she is, and Xenosaga fans have clamored for the series to be released on modern platforms for yearsOn the topic of potential female characters, I'd like to bring Valkyrie (from her self-titled series) to everyone's attention. True that her main line games came out during the early days (NES era) and she's mostly been known in later years as a "cameo" character in various Namco games; but she could still be a possibility as a contender as a Bandai Namco rep.
Do what they did with the two Roys' announcer calls.So if we’re getting Ryu Hayabusa, any bets how the game will refer to him? Just Hayabusa? Ryu Hayabusa? Or just Ryu and confuse the heck out of casuals?
That rumor's only piece of credible information was that it claimed that Hero would not have female alts, which is true.I am. Ot sire if others have mentioned this, but since both Joker and Hero have more complex movesets then most of the cast(joker and his persona system, Hero and his magic system) and i have a feeling Banjo may use a collection/ammo system based on his trailer(likenhis up b changes if he has red feathers or not), is it safe to guess the last 2 characters also may have more complex gameplay systems? Shantae witj dance transformations, Jill with a zombie summon or inventory system, Reimu using a bullet hell and grazing system, as a few examples. Would Ryu or Doomslayer bring anysort of complicated ganeplay? Doomslayer maybe needing to melee attack to reload his weapons at best, but have no ideas for Ryu.
Again, this is just a guess.
Also, are people just so fast to abandon that old rumor about a female game character(not the recrnt 4chan one that old japanese one)
I do think the most likelt namco character now is KOS-MOS, not just as a namco rep but its tied to the xeno series. Plus she is pretty famous on both side of the ocean.I feel like KOS-MOS would be more likely as both a female character and Bandai Namco rep, as even though she’s mostly cameos nowadays, more people know who she is, and Xenosaga fans have clamored for the series to be released on modern platforms for years
And this Ryu one is just a guy who may have been the forst to say plant and marx as bosses. A marx boss to be honest is an easy guess, knowing bosses were returning with rathalos and sakurao loves his kirby series. Plant is harder to prove as a lucky guess thoughThat rumor's only piece of credible information was that it claimed that Hero would not have female alts, which is true.
Re:KOS-MOS - that, and I feel a Tales rep’s chances have dropped due to Hero, someone like Lloyd would probably cause fantasy JRPG swordsman fatigue, and Sakurai said before that implementing Heihachi and the Tekken style of fighting would be very difficult. KOS-MOS would be easy to implement AND would be a sci-fi JRPG robot girl which would be a nice change of paceI do think the most likelt namco character now is KOS-MOS, not just as a namco rep but its tied to the xeno series. Plus she is pretty famous on both side of the ocean.
And this Ryu one is just a guy who may have been the forst to say plant and marx as bosses. A marx boss to be honest is an easy guess, knowing bosses were returning with rathalos and sakurao loves his kirby series. Plant is harder to prove as a lucky guess though
Just Hayabusa. That's how he's labeled in the Dead or Alive games anyways.So if we’re getting Ryu Hayabusa, any bets how the game will refer to him? Just Hayabusa? Ryu Hayabusa? Or just Ryu and confuse the heck out of casuals?
Representation is variety, though. This isn't the 80s anymore. Video gaming has long stopped being a boy's club, despite GamerGate's best attempts.Just can't get into that mindset. This is just a game, variety is more important than "representation", and there's already plenty of female characters in the base game. It's not that I'm against them (gimme Dixie, Gruntilda, Chun Li or Jill), it's just... is it that hard to judge characters by their own merits?
If you disagree well, then you arent' going to accomplish much by telling people who don't care about "representation" that they should care for it.
This is why we need a black female character in the fighter pass. Elma Gang never dieRepresentation isn't just a problem with Smash but the gaming industry as a whole. Actually, how many Black lead characters are in video games. I'd wager there's more women to be honest.
Well, obviously Unbreakable Determination.So if Ryu Hayabusa is the final character what music would he come with?
Yes, going into the Ryu support thread and saying everyone that was happy Ryu might be getting in was sexist, shockingly, didn't go over well.After long thought, and despite my short time here, I'm done with my part of DLC Discussion. As much as I don't want to repeat myself, it seems my claims fell on deaf ears.
Do you though? You're both complaining about spoilers, but you both regularly hang out in the Smash Forums thread that is basically dedicated to leaks and spoilers.I'm so with you. I hate how the internet made it impossible to remain unspoiled about anything
Well, we do have two Roys. So two Ryus IS possible.So if we’re getting Ryu Hayabusa, any bets how the game will refer to him? Just Hayabusa? Ryu Hayabusa? Or just Ryu and confuse the heck out of casuals?
I'm just going to leave this here.Also...two guys named Ryu? lol
The Layton thread has been tossing her around. Obviously we want the Prof first, but she has a lot of unique potential with her outfits that would make her a very fun pick.One female fighter that doesn't get a lot of talks is Katrielle Layton. While I don't think she's will be in the game, I think she would be the perfect female fighter because her game appeal to a very large audience (like casual).
In Dead or Alive he's usually referred to as Hayabusa so they could just go with that.Also...two guys named Ryu? lol
I really wanted to play her debute game but the one i had on hold at gamestop the regional manager took from me, and i havent found a copy since...One female fighter that doesn't get a lot of talks is Katrielle Layton. While I don't think she's will be in the game, I think she would be the perfect female fighter because her game appeal to a very large audience (like casual).
Yeah not too many big name NES female leads that arent in already. Most were japanese exclusive like shin Onigashima or famicom Detective clubOn the subject of female characters:
Looking at my own long wishlist of characters, it looks like I don't have a female character until #9.
Though, in my defense, my top picks are all NES era characters. And, unfortunately, the notable female characters from that era are already IN Smash.
Looking at my overall list of 30ish picks, looks like I have 7 female picks. Though some of those are shared slots like Captain Toad/Toadette, Spring Man/Ribbon Girl.
I mean, Ultimate has more female characters than Smash 64 had characters period. If you count everyone, that's more than 20. I think there's already a good amount of options. If the objective is having a perfect 50:50 ratio, let's just agree to disagree.Representation is variety, though. This isn't the 80s anymore. Video gaming has long stopped being a boy's club, despite GamerGate's best attempts.
The objective is to have at least 1 out of 5. This is a disingenuous way of framing the issue. People want at least one fully playable female character on the Pass, which shouldn't be an unreasonable demand. It isn't like they're picking objectively the five most qualified characters and they all happen to be male; in a world where Joker and Banjo are on this Pass, Nintendo/Sakurai surely could have picked from one of many female characters.If the objective is having a perfect 50:50 ratio
Yea yea, but who even notices Roy Koopa?I'm just going to leave this here.
As Flyboy said, she's been brought up a few times in the Layton support thread, while most agree that the prof should take priority, she's still an alright alternative if they where to go that route, especially if she brings her cosplay outfits as alts as it would give access to more characters in the series, even if its just her dressing up as them. The modding potential would also be interesting to see with her as her base design matches up with a lot of other characters in the series.One female fighter that doesn't get a lot of talks is Katrielle Layton. While I don't think she's will be in the game, I think she would be the perfect female fighter because her game appeal to a very large audience (like casual).
i dont think smash is gonna drop a stage called hell. sounds like attention nintendo rather not draw. Also limiting an open-world game is completely different from expanding one with narrow halls as part of its identity.I'm not saying that Doomguy is a lock or anything, but really, music potential is probably the least of his problems and if you wonder what music Doom could bring, you clearly never played a Doom game. Just take a listen to At doom's gate, Running from evil, Kitchen ace and Hiding the secrets (these are personal favorites, but there's more than that). Not only Doom would bring excellent music, but also a music genre that we don't really have in Smash.
As for the stages, I don't see how exactly that's an issue. We got stage based from open world (breath of the wild), from semi open world (delfino plaza for example), racing game track (f-zero levels), 2d platformer level and so on. I don't see how a corridor FPS would cause problem. I think a good Doom stage would be the Tower of babel, but it could also be a more generic stage based on Hell.
this so much this. laura croft would fix this. so would chun-li.Also doesn't help that literally every female newcomer so far for Ultimate is either an echo (Daisy, Dark Samus), a semiclone (Isabelle), has a genderswap (Inkling), or part of a duo (Kazooie). Inkling Boy was featured a ton more than female Pokemon Trainer or female Robin or Male Wii Fit Trainer, even appearing in the World of Light opening while the rest of the genderswaps didn't. Echo Daisy is the only female human out of all of them.
We literally don't have a single fully unique female newcomer that actually occupies 8 costumes and fights on her own.
When the "next character will be female" rumor was going around, I started putting together for myself a list of female characters and out of all of them that felt somewhat plausible the only one that wasn't super interesting in my eyes was Kasumi from Dead or Alive. Even then, a new series is cool in its own way.this so much this. laura croft would fix this. so would chun-li.