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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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SharkLord

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But... I can't read graphs well...
In that case, allow me to translate:
Each amiibo wave is usually around two weeks apart from the fighter, give or take a couple days. By that logic, CP7 will have to come soon. Since Byleth and Min Min's presentation were streamed a couple weeks before they actually released, I'm expecting the presentation to be around the end of September, followed by a release in October. Bonus points if the livestream is on the very day the Joker and Hero amiibo release.
 

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I'm still bummed that Knuckles never got into Smash as a playable character. Of all the other possible Sonic reps out there, I feel he would have fit the Smash format the best. At very least, his playstyle would have been far less annoying and repetitive as Sonic's.
I don't know about Knuckles specifically, but honestly I think if we had the normal amount of Newcomers we have for New Smash games instead of the Smaller amount we got with Ultimate, I'm sure we would have had a 2nd Sonic character by now. Perhaps in can happen in FP2 instead, but I don't know
 
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I just emailed Sakurai asking him to add Estelle Bright to Smash as FP7 after seeing your demand, and he said "No problem, I got you".

I hope you're happy now.
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The 25th for everywhere but the US, which gets them a week later. A similar thing happened with Terry's wave, mind you; The graph uses the dates from the Japanese release with Terry and I'm functioning on the same logic for CP7.
Got it, thank you
 

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Seems that Unite's about to enter alpha / betatesting, and release might not be too far off.
Nice... I wonder if any other regions will take part as well? Though I guess since it seems to be developed mobile-first, it makes sense that China would be first. Literally the easiest place to acquire a good number of testers in a short time.
 

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I'm still bummed that Knuckles never got into Smash as a playable character. Of all the other possible Sonic reps out there, I feel he would have fit the Smash format the best. At very least, his playstyle would have been far less annoying and repetitive as Sonic's.
I feel this way about Tails. The fact that he can fly and use all sorts of tech, I feel, could make him kinda similar to Sonic, but different enough to be his own thing kinda like Luigi to Mario, and Lucas to Ness. This can also apply to Shadow and Knuckles, or really any of the animal characters for the most part.

Eggman, on the other hand, would be something completely different but there's been lots of debates on how exactly he'd work.
 

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Funny thing is that, like, a bunch of other platform fighters have news right around now.
  • Slap City revealed a new character today (Frallan from the Princess Remedy series,) who will be released on the 17th.
  • Rivals of Aether is having an announcement livestream tomorrow at 10 AM PST.
  • Super Smash Flash 2 will have its next scheduled small update on the 25th (or the 24th if you signed up for their newsletter.) Its devs also recently revealed that they are working on another platform fighting game in addition to SSF2.
Like, even if nothing happens for Smash, there’s a bunch of other platform fighter stuff to look forward to in the near future.
 

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Sakurai has taste 👌
I do wonder if he liked Fallout 76 though...

I actually think it's interesting what games he has talked about and what type of content they have in Smash. He talked about Undertale for example and Sans got a Mii costume (though that wasn't the only reason obviously)

The games currently that Sakurai has talked about that don't have content in Smash

Half-Life
Halo
Minecraft
Dark Souls
Nier Automata
Dangoropa
Atelier Ryza (don't know if he played it though)

There's probably more I'm missing
 

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I feel this way about Tails. The fact that he can fly and use all sorts of tech, I feel, could make him kinda similar to Sonic, but different enough to be his own thing kinda like Luigi to Mario, and Lucas to Ness. This can also apply to Shadow and Knuckles, or really any of the animal characters for the most part.

Eggman, on the other hand, would be something completely different but there's been lots of debates on how exactly he'd work.
Eggman I think if they go with his usual Implementation (in the Egg Mobile) he'd probably be similar in ways to Bowser Jr. Otherwise I do think Eggman is probably one of the best examples of having "too Much Potential" as there's no Definitive moveset idea to go with that implements all of Eggman, and all of his more Iconic machines are Big as all ever.

They could make a Smash Unique design or something, but I doubt they do that.

in any case, I do think it's interesting All of the More Prominent Sonic characters (Tails, Eggman, Shadow & Knuckles) can use another Characters as a base very easily, but also have mechanics that could separate themselves from the Roster. Couple with the fact that Sega loves to Throw out Sonic's licensing like Candy (cause they want Sonic to be in as such good games or things as possible) and Another Sonic character has been very requested for Years now, I could see FP2 have another Sonic character
 

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Nice... I wonder if any other regions will take part as well? Though I guess since it seems to be developed mobile-first, it makes sense that China would be first. Literally the easiest place to acquire a good number of testers in a short time.
Seems like it's China-exclusive for now, and that's probably because Tencent already has a very large pool of Arena of Valor players that have at least some familiarity with Pokemon as an IP.

Any betatests elsewhere would likely be announced by Tencent's Los Angeles office.

At the VERY latest FP7 could drop at like 9 October or something, however it can also drop earlier than that as well. Which means we're close to a Smash reveal.
Wouldn't surprise me if we are close considering it's been 2 1/2 months since Min Min dropped. Also, they probably have FP8's groundwork done as well at this point (assuming that FP7's at a near-complete stage at least. The Min Min presentation aired May 2nd, when she was at a near-complete stage.).
 
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In layman’s terms for the statistically challenged?
based on the graph (i may be wrong):

FP7 can came out up to 16 days before the amiibo (:ultpiranha:) or 12-18 days after the amiibo (:ultbyleth::ultminmin)

according to the graph FP7 can come out between Sept 9th-Oct 13th

my interpretation of Amiibo Theory based solely on Fighters Pass 1( :ultjoker:-:ultbyleth:): amiibo wave comes out same month as character

For my interpretation to be correct FP7 has to come out either this month if going by Japanese amiibo release (Sept 25th) or next month if going by American amiibo release (Oct 2nd).

My interpretation is more generous than the graph since my range would be from Sept 1st - Oct 31st
 
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I do wonder if he liked Fallout 76 though...

I actually think it's interesting what games he has talked about and what type of content they have in Smash. He talked about Undertale for example and Sans got a Mii costume (though that wasn't the only reason obviously)

The games currently that Sakurai has talked about that don't have content in Smash

Half-Life
Halo
Minecraft
Dark Souls
Nier Automata
Dangoropa
Atelier Ryza (don't know if he played it though)

There's probably more I'm missing
You're actually forgetting a pretty big one. A game he had ridiculously high praise for:



If Nintendo wasn't choosing the characters and it was entirely on Sakurai, I wouldn't be surprised if he picked a rep from this just to spread the word of it.
 

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You're actually forgetting a pretty big one. A game he had ridiculously high praise for:



If Nintendo wasn't choosing the characters and it was entirely on Sakurai, I wouldn't be surprised if he picked a rep from this just to spread the word of it.
I've heard about this game. I don't know what it's about, except I heard it was like a Tower Defense RPG?
 

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You're actually forgetting a pretty big one. A game he had ridiculously high praise for:



If Nintendo wasn't choosing the characters and it was entirely on Sakurai, I wouldn't be surprised if he picked a rep from this just to spread the word of it.
Yoko its right, Japan needs Vanillaware. Their games are beautiful
 
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I have to be honest, if I were Sakurai I don't think I could resist the urge to publicly bring up games with dubious characters just to get the fans in a tizzy about speculation.

Sakurai: I have to admit I've found myself surprisingly enjoying Bubsy: The Woolies Strike Back

Fans: Oh no...
 
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You know, I actually had a theory

I'm not into Monster Hunter at all, but there was something I just thought of in a hypothetical situation where Monster Hunter is Playable

What if they are gonna Introduce Boss Battle Mode with Monster Hunter. as Ratholos is already in the game, maybe they'll introduce the option to refight bosses with Monster Hunter because of that. Perhaps we could also get new Bosses, though I think that would cost money, I wonder how that would work
 

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I have to be honest, if I were Sakurai I don't think I could resist the urge to publicly bring up games with dubious characters just to get the fans in a tizzy about speculation.

Sakurai: I have to admit I've found myself surprisingly enjoying Bubsy: The Woolies Strike Back

Fans: Oh no...
Man, that T-Rex game when you have no internet is actually really fun.
 
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You're actually forgetting a pretty big one. A game he had ridiculously high praise for:



If Nintendo wasn't choosing the characters and it was entirely on Sakurai, I wouldn't be surprised if he picked a rep from this just to spread the word of it.
Aegis Rim sounds cool!!! If it hops in Smash, I will get it.

Also I'm going to say it, but... Heh...
 
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I have to be honest, if I were Sakurai I don't think I could resist the urge to publicly bring up games with dubious characters just to get the fans in a tizzy about speculation.

Sakurai: I have to admit I've found myself surprisingly enjoying Bubsy: The Woolies Strike Back

Fans: Oh no...
Next Famitsu column:

"In a fit of boredom, I played some Hong Kong 97 and it ended up being surprisingly entertaining!"
 
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