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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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Wow, has it almost been a legit year since we have gotten a full direct?

I can understand why, COVID-19 is scary as hell.
 
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I really just don’t see the appeal in Geno. He’s been in one game from 30 years ago and wasn’t even the main character in that game. He wouldn’t represent a new series and the series he would represent has much more impactful and well-known candidates like Waluigi and King Boo. If you want to argue that he could represent the RPGs, then why not consider Fawful or Paper Mario? I really don’t even feel like he would bring a new playstyle to the table- he would be a fighter with a gun for an arm like mega man or Mii gunner.. I honesty just don’t think the game would be too different if he were a deluxe Mii costume instead of a stand-alone fighter. For these reasons I see him as a waste of a DLC slot for the purpose of fan service.

That being said, I genuinely just want him in at this point so that his fans can stop hijacking every speculation thread to circle jerk about his chances amidst very circumstantial “evidence”. I’ll also be happy for his fans if he gets in, I just don’t understand him or why he should be in over other characters.

Edit- sorry, I forgot about his cameo in superstar saga in the arcade machine thing
I found this post a bit interesting,
"I genuinely just want him in at this point so that his fans can stop hijacking every speculation thread to circle jerk about his chances amidst very circumstantial “evidence”
I mean from what i see, me and the majority of people in the geno thread rarely if ever come here to "circlejerk". You might see a handful but that only happens if genos already being talked about here. Dont get why you have to be so aggressive.
 

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I don’t see why Square Enix would realistically pick Geno anyway when they haven’t done anything with him in the longest time. If they were to double dip I’d sooner see the likes of 2B or Neku happening
I also find this rather interesting, i mean the whole thing with geno is that... well yeah... square wouldnt pick him, not in a million years.

It would be nintendo and sakurai obviously.
 

XorahnGaia

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Never mind, seems as though Ryce never leaked Plant or Cloud. I was wondering where that came from.
Told ya.
Now I'm curious if the Geno Thread will take Ryce "hint" out of "The List™" or not.
 

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I don't agree with the notion that Geno has no appeal, but bandwagoning is a very real psychological phenomenon, both the negative and the positive kind. Like, this is actually utilized in marketing to great effect. It's almost a form of tribalism. Things have gotten popular for no other reason than very vocal passionate people, with case studies of people looking back and not understanding why they cared in the first place.
I feel like trying to connect a fanbase with bandwagoning simply doesn't work at all. like, you dont personally know any of these fans, you dont know what they truly are like, so you simply cant reduce their want for a character as bandwagoning since again, you dont know them. Are there people out there who fit the description of a bandwagoner, maybe but theres not much of a point in thinking about it.
 

EricTheGamerman

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The idea that people took Ryce making a cute little reference to the idea of a Geno trailer as a legitimate leak and then retroactively turned him into some sort of source/leaker specifically for Smash is one of the funniest things I've seen Smash speculation pull in a while. I know SmashERA pretty well and like... Ryce just blatantly isn't that kind of leaker in that thread at all.
 

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Just had a dream about a Sakurai presents. Really annoying how that didn't turn out to happen, but I guess I should've expected it because it was just a reveal galore of stages and cosmetics and ****. This is the most obsessed I've been over something Nintendo in a while, so hopefully something does happen.
 

EricTheGamerman

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I feel like trying to connect a fanbase with bandwagoning simply doesn't work at all. like, you dont personally know any of these fans, you dont know what they truly are like, so you simply cant reduce their want for a character as bandwagoning since again, you dont know them. Are there people out there who fit the description of a bandwagoner, maybe but theres not much of a point in thinking about it.
I understand the temptation to look at bandwagoning as a pure negative, but it's not really. Things that are more visible in any community tend to self-promote and attract new people, and there's a general sense of momentum that results from additional exposure that has really benefited every single fan request for Smash ever. At the end of the day, Smash Ultimate is a punchy fun video game, it doesn't actually matter how deep your convictions are for wanting a character or if you would be a "true fan" without a larger community that helped expose you to that character/the idea of that character in Smash. I think it's just better to embrace the idea of bandwagoning being relevant to a fan request rather than always fighting it as it also lets you be in control of the language around the character.

Also, plenty of people say they wouldn't have considered or known a character until they saw larger support for certain characters, so you can certainly demonstrate the positive effects of community visibility and outreach on the popularity of any given entity. And again, that's not really a bad thing in of itself.
 
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I do not get the joke of hype responsibility.

What is wrong if people are very optimistic? I understand people can get too crazy, but still, it is good to be excited.
 

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Lol antigenoclowns seething strong today. Don't forget to take your meds.
 

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Since the Mario collection might be announced soon-ish now, I think I could mention that a while ago, I did have a dream about it getting revealed. What I saw was some footage from Galaxy, and then it ending the consoles that this would release on. . . those being the PS4, the XBox Series X, and. . . the XBox Series Y. Nothing on the Switch.

Clearly, my dreams are the most reliable insider.

Lol antigenoclowns seething strong today. Don't forget to take your meds.
. . .What the hell are you talking about?
 
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J. Bond

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Zhuge seems to be hinting they're coming THIS month? Maybe it's a Mini after all.
 
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I'm going to be working this morning, but I'm hoping that we get something today, even if it's just a random Tweet announcing the long-rumoured 3D Mario remasters.

If we do get a Smash announcement, though, try not to be toxic about it, whoever it may be. I'm not sure who's hinted at Geno being announced, since I just checked this thread, but it already seems to be bubbling to the surface and we don't even know if there's any kind of Nintendo announcement yet, let alone a Smash one.
 
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"Who killed R.O.B.?"
This guy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/i69kep
Direct link in case it doesn't work.

Since the Mario collection might be announced soon-ish now, I think I could mention that a while ago, I did have a dream about it getting revealed. What I saw was some footage from Galaxy, and then it ending the consoles that this would release on. . . those being the PS4, the XBox Series X, and. . . the XBox Series Y. Nothing on the Switch.

Clearly, my dreams are the most reliable insider.
Well, there's already the Xbox Series S... Obviously it stands for Xbox Series Switch.

:4pacman:
 
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I do not get the joke of hype responsibility.

What is wrong if people are very optimistic? I understand people can get too crazy, but still, it is good to be excited.
Because people who don’t hype responsibly end up overhyping themselves that everything they ever wanted will be suddenly made real within a 35 minute window. But when what they hyped themselves up doesn’t happen, well, they end up making emotionally charged bad choices including targeting other character threads, long rant posts, targeting certain individuals, making empty but still worrying threats, and/or a combination of the above. When this happens...well...that’s when warnings are issued.

I live in a constant state of unhype...

We won’t get FP7 in September
Nor in 2020
The Volume 2 will be cancelled
Switch is done getting games
Tomorrow, I will finally buy New Horizons and it’s going to be completely and utterly awful.
I just washed the bed sheets and they are going to smell like musty bread and grasshopper guts and will feel like sandpaper after my shower.
I bought a bottle of whiskey that I have yet to try and it’s probably going to taste like baby vomit .
 
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Gamexplain has a Mario Direct reaction livestreamed
I think it's happening
Yeah, if there really is nothing after this I'm going to be scratching my head.
 

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Gamexplain has a Mario Direct reaction livestreamed
I think it's happening
Huh. They're basically just talking while refreshing Nintendo's YT page over and over. So basically another thing pointing to a shadowdrop, in case Jon "not a leaker" GameXplain knows something.

EDIT: Whelp, here it is
 
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