Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Thewafflemaker2000]

Tbh I would rather have Mallow instead of Geno.

Mallow is more interesting.

Midbus has always been my favorite mario rpg character. Tho I think that fawful would make for the most popular and unique mario rpg character to be in smash. Hes even a villain

 

[GoodGrief741]

A known yet not completely reliable leaker does a vague post about Geno, not even in the tone of a leak and mentioning Smash

Geno thread goes wild, he's in boys

Speculation thread hears about it

Geno discussion begins

Instead of discussing the veracity of the rumor, people just start giving their opinions on the character

"I don't get the appeal, can someone explain?", "Geno is a bandwagon anyway", "What does he bring to the table besides the Mii Gunner moveset?", "See, the Newcomer Thread, oppressing Geno fans every time!", * comparisons and contrasts to Ridley Banjo and K. Rool * are all thrown about

In the end Geno doesn't get in anyway

Like and subscribe if you can remember the last time this already happened

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I'm torn because on one hand Emily hasn't gotten anything right in ages but on the other she has a Gravity Falls pfp

If someone says they want Ammy, but then goes "ew, why would I play Okami, I don't like action adventure games!", then I have no problem calling them a fake fan. People can obviously do what they want and there are several pros that have never played the games of their mains or desired characters, but it's not a mindset I can personally wrap my head around. Fighting game characters are more than just a moveset.

Um I can think of a ton of reasons why someone would like Amaterasu without having played Okami. Maybe they respect its status. Maybe they're fans of Clover or Platinum or Kamiya's games. Maybe they played as her in MvC. Maybe they just like doggos. Who are you to tell people the requisites to calling themselves fans of something?

 

[Mushroomguy12]

The only Paper Mario game that isn't an RPG is Super Paper Mario. The titles after that are really odd fusions of the RPG and Adventure genres with more emphasis on the former even though it tries its hardest to get you to not care about it.

Super Paper Mario has experience points and a level based system. I’d consider it more of an RPG than the later titles for that alone, despite it not being turned based.

 

[SnowClaws]

In non-related Direct or Mario rumors news, tomorrow is the release of the official Korean version of Xenoblade 2 and Xenoblade 2: Torna ~ The Golden Country (Sep 3, 2020).

Also, Nintendo updated Xenoblade 2 today to include the Korean translation after nearly two years since the game have been last updated on Dec 2, 2018.

Spoiler: Last update

If Rex or Lora is one of the possible fighter in Fighter Pass 2, then it can be justify that is they are the "promotional" pick in Smash for the Korean version of Xenoblade 2 and its expansion The Golden Country.

Friendly reminder that The Golden Country expansion was released worldwide on Sep 14 (digital release) or Sep 21, 2018 (physical release), and the Joker and Hero amiibo release is on Sep 25 (JP, EU) just 4 or 11 days apart. (Who knows if this means anything for them in terms of being Fighter 77.)

 

[TheCJBrine]

those 2 come from games that give much more to work with on a moveset than Geno, let alone the fact that I didn’t bring either of them up.. I’m talking about Geno here. If you think Heihachi/Isaac are as similar to brawler/sword fighter as Geno is to gunner, then more power to you I guess.

Mii Gunner doesn’t fit Geno at all. The closest is the final smash kinda resembling Geno Beam (but isn’t right) and then there’s the standard bullets, and they don’t quite match either, especially since Geno’s bullets aren’t flaming energy bullets. He still has Geno Boost, Geno Flash, Geno Blast, Geno Whirl, star shots/Star Gun, and rocket fists too. And his weaponry is a mix of toy stuff and magic, not high-tech.

So, if Isaac and Heihachi don’t fit their mii classes, then Geno does even less.

Also, while yes a lot of fans would like a mii costume over nothing (including me), the character himself would still be much better to make most fans happy, and the people fine with a costume even happier.

Bonus: Goodness, Skull Kid fits his mii class much less. He doesn’t fit it at all, really, though I guess the head drop and magic-looking mid-air kick kinda fit thanks to Majora’s Mask...but he doesn’t ever fight in hand-to-hand combat even with the mask...

 

[MisterMike]

All these little clown boys here talking about all these obscure Mario characters meanwhile I'm sittin' here on the Zelda character train.

Y'all talking about Lloyd and Yuri and no love for Luke fon Fabre.
smh

This man speaks the truth.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Mii Gunner doesn’t fit Geno at all. The closest is the final smash kinda resembling Geno Beam (but isn’t right) and then there’s the standard bullets, and they don’t quite match either, especially since Geno’s bullets aren’t flaming energy bullets. He still has Geno Boost, Geno Flash, Geno Blast, Geno Whirl, star shots/Star Gun, and rocket fists too. And his weaponry is a mix of toy stuff and magic, not high-tech.

So, if Isaac and Heihachi don’t fit their mii classes, then Geno does even less.

Also, while yes a lot of fans would like a mii costume over nothing (including me), the character himself would still be much better to make most fans happy, and the people fine with a costume even happier.

Bonus: Goodness, Skull Kid fits his mii class much less. He doesn’t fit it at all, really, though I guess the head drop and magic-looking mid-air kick kinda fit thanks to Majora’s Mask...but he doesn’t ever fight in hand-to-hand combat even with the mask...

I’m just as big of a fan of Geno as anyone but stating that Geno “doesn’t fit” Mii Gunner is kind of picky choosy when characters like Sans are regulated to such a place.

No, things that Geno really has going for them is his specialty of Magic and Guns rolled into one. Like a cross between Robin, Bayonetta, and Mega Man. People really undersell the fact that Geno could have a large moveset where not a single one of his moves look similar because he can utilize not only his punches and kicks but also his Magic, his cannon, and of course the all too iconic Mario RPG items.

 

[Karen6969]

Mii Gunner doesn’t fit Geno at all. The closest is the final smash kinda resembling Geno Beam (but isn’t right) and then there’s the standard bullets, and they don’t quite match either, especially since Geno’s bullets aren’t flaming energy bullets. He still has Geno Boost, Geno Flash, Geno Blast, Geno Whirl, star shots/Star Gun, and rocket fists too. And his weaponry is a mix of toy stuff and magic, not high-tech.

So, if Isaac and Heihachi don’t fit their mii classes, then Geno does even less.

Also, while yes a lot of fans would like a mii costume over nothing (including me), the character himself would still be much better to make most fans happy, and the people fine with a costume even happier.

Bonus: Goodness, Skull Kid fits his mii class much less. He doesn’t fit it at all, really, though I guess the head drop and magic-looking mid-air kick kinda fit thanks to Majora’s Mask...but he doesn’t ever fight in hand-to-hand combat even with the mask...

You’re missing the point; obviously his animations wouldn’t match exactly... the point is that his moveset would be extremely similar to Mii gunner’s. I don’t know much about Isaac honestly but Heihachi would play more similarly to Ryu or Ken as his own character, which is nothing like brawler. If you can tell me that you honestly think Geno’s moveset would be nothing like Mii gunner’s, then that’s fine we have a difference of opinion I guess. I just urge you to check your bias when you say that Isaac/Heihachi are more similar to their corresponding Mii fighters than Geno would be.

I’m just as big of a fan of Geno as anyone but stating that Geno “doesn’t fit” Mii Gunner is kind of picky choosy when characters like Sans are regulated to such a place.

No, things that Geno really has going for them is his specialty of Magic and Guns rolled into one. Like a cross between Robin, Bayonetta, and Mega Man. People really undersell the fact that Geno could have a large moveset where not a single one of his moves look similar because he can utilize not only his punches and kicks but also his Magic, his cannon, and of course the all too iconic Mario RPG items.

Yeah, If he does get in I really hope they give him a unique moveset using the things you listed rather than making him a slightly different Mii gunner (in which case he may as well have been a deluxe costume). Regardless I’d be happy for his fans either way

 

[cosmicB]

Well seems I walked into a ****storm here. personally feelings on Geno are...very awkward.

On one hand, I am a fan of SMRPG and think the game is damn great; have probably played the game close to a zone times over the years. geno himself I've never particurily had issue with, and him being a doll swiss army knife, but with guns instead of blades is a cool concept.

On the other hand, Geno has always seemed like a weird fit for Smash to me. Sometime early on during Smash Ultimate speculation it did occur to me that we don't have a mario rep specifically for Mario's RPGs, which made me open up a bit more to Geno, though not necessarily to the point I found him super exciting or hype or whatever. Also, as someone that used to frequent and get more involved in the Geno thread in the past, and still occasionally lurk there for ****s and giggles, I've definitely seen the ugly side of the Geno fanbase moreso than any other fanbase. Obviously not ALL Geno fans are bad or anytthing extreme or crazt like that, but I still saw enough drama and unsavory behavior that it did sour my mindset when it comes to Geno coming to Smash. I realize I shouldn;t let such stuff get to me, and as a SMRPG fan I probably should like the idea, but I dunno, my brain just be like that I guess.

IF geno actually does make it in, then, well, it is what it is. Maybe if the content is cool enough the SMRPG fan within me will reignite and maybe really get into it, who knows. All I know is IF he makes it in, I'm not looking forward to the inevitable fallout that happens and I might even have to stray from Smash forums a bit depending on how things go for sanity's sake.

So yeah those are my feelings when it comes to the gun doll being in the wacky woohoo videogame crossover.

Yeah, I hate that a fanbase has soured me on a character I was otherwise ambivalent toward since I'd really like to believe I'm not that shallow, especially when the source material is important to me and among my top 50 games. Unfortunately had to put the thread creator on ignore so I don't even see it anymore, and I'm sure he's a stand-up guy. Just couldn't deal after the Uighur Muslim comparison and the guy trying to start a revolution over video games in a time of high scale social unrest.

Um I can think of a ton of reasons why someone would like Amaterasu without having played Okami. Maybe they respect its status. Maybe they're fans of Clover or Platinum or Kamiya's games. Maybe they played as her in MvC. Maybe they just like doggos. Who are you to tell people the requisites to calling themselves fans of something?

As I've said in follow-up posts, I was mainly making a distinction between lukewarm support and PASSIONATE support. I have character wants of my own from games I've never played, but I have trouble relating to the mindset of one's most wanted being from a game they've never played. Again, people can obviously do whatever they want, but it won't be something I can wrap my head around (and will be something I'm actively annoyed at if you campaign for Geno while actively trying to make traditional turn-based rpgs an extinct genre).

 

[ZelDan]

The Mii swordfighter doesn't really match Isaac at all outside of the fact both obviously wield a sword. The Mii swordfighter, atleast from what I recall, has no earthbending ability to match Isaac's Venus psynergy, and doesn't have anything close to Isaac's utility/hand psynergy. There's also djinn which Miis obviously cannot replicate either.

 

[TheCJBrine]

I’m just as big of a fan of Geno as anyone but stating that Geno “doesn’t fit” Mii Gunner is kind of picky choosy when characters like Sans are regulated to such a place.

No, things that Geno really has going for them is his specialty of Magic and Guns rolled into one. Like a cross between Robin, Bayonetta, and Mega Man. People really undersell the fact that Geno could have a large moveset where not a single one of his moves look similar because he can utilize not only his punches and kicks but also his Magic, his cannon, and of course the all too iconic Mario RPG items.

Yeah I mean I think Geno fits the Mii as being a gun character who could possibly use those moves, though most of his original moves don’t fit at all, which I guess I meant since Isaac and Heihachi were also brought up and they probably fit closer (besides Isaac’s earth magic and floating hand).

Anyway I agree, people really undersell his potential. He’s a magic star spirit possessing a toy that knocked Mario out for a bit, and his moves are way cooler than the Mii’s, how does he not have much potential?

You’re missing the point; obviously his animations wouldn’t match exactly... the point is that his moveset would be extremely similar to Mii gunner’s. I don’t know much about Isaac honestly but Heihachi would play more similarly to Ryu or Ken as his own character, which is nothing like brawler. If you can tell me that you honestly think Geno’s moveset would be nothing like Mii gunner’s, then that’s fine we have a difference of opinion I guess. I just urge you to check your bias when you say that Isaac/Heihachi are more similar to their corresponding Mii fighters than Geno would be.

I meant in terms of the moves themselves. Most of Geno’s moves aren’t even close to the Mii’s because the Mii doesn’t even have moves like them. I just meant in comparison; the other two don’t fit either, especially Isaac with the lack of magic, but at least their Miis’ sword and fist moves look like they fit due to being basic I guess. Mii Gunner’s gun isn’t.

In terms of what kind of fighters they are if we get down to basics, though, yeah they all fit (in that way alone). Admittedly I think I worded my post badly because I don’t think Isaac nor Heihachi would be like the miis either :I

Though I really don’t understand why you think Geno’s moveset would just be Mii Gunner 2.0. Sakurai would have to fumble really badly for that to happen, and be really ignorant of him and SMRPG, which would go against stuff he’s said and how he treats characters. If Geno gets added, don’t worry, there’s not a snowman’s chance in the Nether that he’d be like Mii Gunner. Same for any other character if they were added, too.

There are also examples of how he could work; such as his moveset in some Project M mods (like Legacy XP or Project M EX Remix; Isaac has one in Remix, too) or the one in Smash Bros. Crusade.

 

[GoodGrief741]

You’re missing the point; obviously his animations wouldn’t match exactly... the point is that his moveset would be extremely similar to Mii gunner’s. I don’t know much about Isaac honestly but Heihachi would play more similarly to Ryu or Ken as his own character, which is nothing like brawler. If you can tell me that you honestly think Geno’s moveset would be nothing like Mii gunner’s, then that’s fine we have a difference of opinion I guess. I just urge you to check your bias when you say that Isaac/Heihachi are more similar to their corresponding Mii fighters than Geno would be.

Geno can clearly do a ton of things that aren't part of the Mii Gunner's movelist. Not to mention that it's pointless to argue that a character would be similar to another; as long as they can be differentiated, they will be if they're made playable, and that's that. Heihachi wouldn't play like Ryu, and Geno wouldn't play like Mii Gunner, not just because the similarities are superficial but also because characters aren't added for their moveset originality anyway.

 

[DarthEnderX]

Geno this, Waluigi that, we all know the best Mario rep

plum time

Nice on!

 

[I.D.]

Here's your Mario collection bro

PUMA Super Mario Sneakers are sneaking your way https://t.co/RM4ScNOdFM pic.twitter.com/0BmjrUZSJK

— Vooks (@vooksdotnet) September 3, 2020

 

[TenghsienYang]

Here's your Mario collection bro

PUMA Super Mario Sneakers are sneaking your way https://t.co/RM4ScNOdFM pic.twitter.com/0BmjrUZSJK

— Vooks (@vooksdotnet) September 3, 2020

Hey Mario, Sonic called...

 

[Monue]

I'm new to the whole idea of the great Geno debate, and I have never played MarioRPG and I have essentially no personal interest in him whatsoever. I also fully acknowledge that not all the conversation here has been "Geno doesn't deserve to be in," so I'm kind of speaking broadly about how I feel about character and their inclusion in passes.

That said, I honestly fail to see how people can be so against him. Sakurai likes him, he has tons of fans, and he's something different. I am opposed to the idea that all Smash is is a casual fighting game dedicated to representing corporations various intellectual property, and that every faceless organization gets their mascot. I'm opposed to the idea that Smash is just a celebration of the history of gaming. I'm opposed to the idea that the Smash roster should just be determined by a popularity contest. I'm opposed to the idea that only Japanese or only American markets matter when selecting a roster.

Because it's never been just any of those things, you know?

The last pass had a Japanese favorite in Hero, an American favorite in Banjo, and a Latin American favorite in Terry - it had its greedy corporate pick with Byleth (who I love), and a fantastic Atlus rep with Joker - AND it had its totally random out of nowhere pick with Piranha Plant.

Some characters fill many boxes, some are more narrow - but what's important is that really anyone in gaming has the potential to be on the table for any reason. Obviously there always is a reason, and that's very important to note, but there are no, or very very few, rules to what that reason can be.

Since Sakurai isn't picking them, even rules he's stated have been stripped down to just, "Can I make it work?" by his own admission. He's clearly demonstrated he can make a ton of weird characters work. I don't think Geno would be any exception, he'd still be unique and fun.

So I guess I'm saying all of this because when discussing a character like Geno, the conversation shouldn't be "Geno doesn't deserve to be in" - it should just be "I don't want him in because he's not my thing." That's a valid take as long as you acknowledge that not everything can be made for you.

 

[super88cloud]

I think Geno´s in. but Crash might be next. I half expect Geno to be the last dlc character.

 

[Shroob]

I'm new to the whole idea of the great Geno debate, and I have never played MarioRPG and I have essentially no personal interest in him whatsoever. I also fully acknowledge that not all the conversation here has been "Geno doesn't deserve to be in," so I'm kind of speaking broadly about how I feel about character and their inclusion in passes.

That said, I honestly fail to see how people can be so against him. Sakurai likes him, he has tons of fans, and he's something different. I am opposed to the idea that all Smash is is a casual fighting game dedicated to representing corporations various intellectual property, and that every faceless organization gets their mascot. I'm opposed to the idea that Smash is just a celebration of the history of gaming. I'm opposed to the idea that the Smash roster should just be determined by a popularity contest. I'm opposed to the idea that only Japanese or only American markets matter when selecting a roster.

Because it's never been just any of those things, you know?

The last pass had a Japanese favorite in Hero, an American favorite in Banjo, and a Latin American favorite in Terry - it had its greedy corporate pick with Byleth (who I love), and a fantastic Atlus rep with Joker - AND it had its totally random out of nowhere pick with Piranha Plant.

Some characters fill many boxes, some are more narrow - but what's important is that really anyone in gaming has the potential to be on the table for any reason. Obviously there always is a reason, and that's very important to note, but there are no, or very very few, rules to what that reason can be.

Since Sakurai isn't picking them, even rules he's stated have been stripped down to just, "Can I make it work?" by his own admission. He's clearly demonstrated he can make a ton of weird characters work. I don't think Geno would be any exception, he'd still be unique and fun.

So I guess I'm saying all of this because when discussing a character like Geno, the conversation shouldn't be "Geno doesn't deserve to be in" - it should just be "I don't want him in because he's not my thing." That's a valid take as long as you acknowledge that not everything can be made for you.

To be fair, I feel like you're overstating Terry a bit here. He's popular in Latin America ya, but he's also in China. Terry being in Smash isn't a nod to the Latin American fans as much as it is just, ya know, Sakurai loves SNK, look how much he gushed about it, and without SNK, there'd be no Smash.

 

[Monue]

To be fair, I feel like you're overstating Terry a bit here. He's popular in Latin America ya, but he's also in China. Terry being in Smash isn't a nod to the Latin American fans as much as it is just, ya know, Sakurai loves SNK, look how much he gushed about it, and without SNK, there'd be no Smash.

Well, if that's the case, then he's the Sakurai pick. My overall point still stands.

 

[Shroob]

Well, if that's the case, then he's the Sakurai pick. My overall point still stands.

Geno's problem is he just has, a lot of, how do I put it


Baggage


Back when Geno got his first spike around Brawl, he was the new big thing that everyone got super interested in, no thanks in small part to both that one poll for Japan, and Forest Rawest coming around at the time, which got a ton of young, early internet goers interested in Super Mario RPG. On the other side of the pond, Geno's theme song also became a bit of a meme in Japan on sites like NicoNicoDouga, basically their YouTube, with the prototype song of Forest Rawest being their big thing.

Geno though... really fell off between Brawl and Smash 4. As someone who was here during Smash 4, his support was honestly at an all time low, and it wasn't until the Ballot that he really spiked again, and well, he got Mii Costume'd.


And now we're at modern day. I'd argue that while Geno's fanbase is very dedicated, the wide majority of people playing Smash really don't seem to care about the character, at least, from the general consensus it seems to be online. It's no secret that Geno, and his fanbase, gets a lot of ire online, not only on this site, but on places like YouTube, 4chan, reddit, etc, since Geno fans are usually seen as boomers.


Now, I'm not a fan of the Geno fans being mocked.... buuuut at the same time, it's no secret that a lot of the time, there are a lot of times where fights break out which don't do them any favors either.



I'm in the camp where, I've been around since Brawl speculation, I've seen the rise and fall and rise again of Geno discussion. If he's in, I'm happy for his fans, but he really does not interest me, and I'd be more interested in the content he brings with him.

 

[J. Bond]

Hope nothing happens today

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

Geno's problem is he just has, a lot of, how do I put it


Baggage


Back when Geno got his first spike around Brawl, he was the new big thing that everyone got super interested in, no thanks in small part to both that one poll for Japan, and Forest Rawest coming around at the time, which got a ton of young, early internet goers interested in Super Mario RPG. On the other side of the pond, Geno's theme song also became a bit of a meme in Japan on sites like NicoNicoDouga, basically their YouTube, with the prototype song of Forest Rawest being their big thing.

Geno though... really fell off between Brawl and Smash 4. As someone who was here during Smash 4, his support was honestly at an all time low, and it wasn't until the Ballot that he really spiked again, and well, he got Mii Costume'd.


And now we're at modern day. I'd argue that while Geno's fanbase is very dedicated, the wide majority of people playing Smash really don't seem to care about the character, at least, from the general consensus it seems to be online. It's no secret that Geno, and his fanbase, gets a lot of ire online, not only on this site, but on places like YouTube, 4chan, reddit, etc, since Geno fans are usually seen as boomers.


Now, I'm not a fan of the Geno fans being mocked.... buuuut at the same time, it's no secret that a lot of the time, there are a lot of times where fights break out which don't do them any favors either.



I'm in the camp where, I've been around since Brawl speculation, I've seen the rise and fall and rise again of Geno discussion. If he's in, I'm happy for his fans, but he really does not interest me, and I'd be more interested in the content he brings with him.

Just saying, but reddit was a fan of the character happening before the DLC. After that though the mood changed.

 

[Shroob]

Just saying, but reddit was a fan of the character happening before the DLC. After that though the mood changed.

Define "A fan of", because Reddit isn't one person, it's a collective of thousands.

One day you can look on it and people may like something, and the next they may hate the same thing, all because it's a different group of, basically anonymous, people.


Unless you mean fan polls, which seems reasonable.

 

[Monue]

since Geno fans are usually seen as boomers.

This is an aside, but has "boomer" lost all meaning? Genuinely curious, Boomers are middle aged and up, and the vast majority of them are likely not on Smash forums arguing about Geno. I have no problem if they are, I'm just confused, because the Geno demographic is likely mostly millennials, who are not boomers.

THAT said, I'm going to go out on a limb and say Nintendo doesn't care how Geno fans are viewed by the community. They likely just see a lot of people talking about Geno and, if they're going by the (likely a) spreadsheet that says "Geno has been mentioned 999604023059 times on Youtube, Twitter, ect!" they're just going to say, "Hey he's Mario themed, he's popular with Smash fans, lets do it and make the fans happy!"

Or they just looked at the Ballot, which by your own admission Geno seemed to do well in. The nitty gritty they don't care about.

I just don't think some perceived notion of "baggage" is going to disqualify a character. With characters like Ridley and K.Rool gone, he's got one of the oldest and largest followings. I wouldn't count him out.

Buuuuuut I also think that Waluigi is as much or more in the running if we get a Smash reveal during a themed 35th Anniversary direct, personally. Waluigi has meme popularity, is relevant, is 1st party, would fit the 35th anniversary more, and I'm genuinely surprised hasn't been mentioned much. I highly doubt the Assist Trophy rule will last.

 

[Shroob]

This is an aside, but has "boomer" lost all meaning? Genuinely curious, Boomers are middle aged and up, and the vast majority of them are likely not on Smash forums arguing about Geno. I have no problem if they are, I'm just confused, because the Geno demographic is likely mostly millennials, who are not boomers.

THAT said, I'm going to go out on a limb and say Nintendo doesn't care how Geno fans are viewed by the community. They likely just see a lot of people talking about Geno and, if they're going by the (likely a) spreadsheet that says "Geno has been mentioned 999604023059 times on Youtube, Twitter, ect!" they're just going to say, "Hey he's Mario themed, he's popular with Smash fans, lets do it and make the fans happy!"

Or they just looked at the Ballot, which by your own admission Geno seemed to do well in. The nitty gritty they don't care about.

I just don't think some perceived notion of "baggage" is going to disqualify a character. With characters like Ridley and K.Rool gone, he's got one of the oldest and largest followings. I wouldn't count him out.

Buuuuuut I also think that Waluigi is as much or more in the running if we get a Smash reveal during a themed 35th Anniversary direct, personally. Waluigi has meme popularity, is relevant, is 1st party, would fit the 35th anniversary more, and I'm genuinely surprised hasn't been mentioned much. I highly doubt the Assist Trophy rule will last.

Oh, the baggage won't harm him at all.

I'm simply answering why you wondered why there seemed to be soo much ill-will towards the character. It's very much a manner of, his fans love him, to everyone else, they couldn't really care less.

 

[Monue]

Oh, the baggage won't harm him at all.

I'm simply answering why you wondered why there seemed to be soo much ill-will towards the character. It's very much a manner of, his fans love him, to everyone else, they couldn't really care less.

Aaaah, okay. That makes sense!

 

[TenghsienYang]

I'm torn because on one hand Emily hasn't gotten anything right in ages but on the other she has a Gravity Falls pfp

I found this compilation of Emily Roger's reporting from 2016-2018: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/77454187


Then there's the "Mystery 11" Rogers was known for in 2019:
https://nintendosoup.com/looking-ba...ery-first-party-switch-titles-coming-in-2019/<--- The "new Nintendo experience", from what I've looked up, was definitely Ring Fit Adventure.

I'm aware there's a handful of other stuff she's claimed not on the list, but while Emily Rogers wasn't always 100% correct, she definitely has gotten quite a few things right as well.

 

[Shroob]

I'm just shocked that a whopping 2 leakers are the only ones willing to go all in on this.


Albeit, 1 has apparently nothing to lose since they're "Retiring", but Emily's still someone that people look to for info.


If nothing else, this is the thing that makes me question tomorrow.


There's definite evidence of something happening eventually between the Directory update and the missing Event, but usually by this time, leakers are more than happy to start spilling their guts, and no, nothing really.

 

[Rikarte]

Hell, I've seen hardcore Geno fans go "eww, turn-based" when someone brought up the idea of them playing it.

Mario RPGs aren't your typical turn based games though. They have much more engaging combat due to the action commands so I can see why non-RPG fans would like them. I don't think that's even that unpopular of an opinion tbh... cough videogamedunkey cough

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

@NintendoAmerica you OK?

— Grubb (@JeffGrubb) September 3, 2020

Jeff Grub is hinting towards Terry Bogard, he'll never get in Smash.

 

[super88cloud]

Mario RPGs aren't your typical turn based games though. They have much more engaging combat due to the action commands so I can see why non-RPG fans would like them. I don't think that's even that unpopular of an opinion tbh... cough videogamedunkey cough

Dunkey is one of those who you´re supposed to not rely on his review because they´re made for laughs, but lots of people do. I don´t like his reviews. Turn based games are .... retro and have a very subset of fans. Too bad most of them right now are filled to the brim of .... questionable artstyles influenced by current anime. Few games have taken the rythm style of rpg from mario rpg,besides the other mario rpg´s. Only one I can think right now is the stick of truth and bug fable.

 

[Shroob]

@NintendoAmerica you OK?

— Grubb (@JeffGrubb) September 3, 2020

Jeff Grub is hinting towards Terry Bogard, he'll never get in Smash.

Okay, three leakers.


Thing is though, Grub here, at least from his posts in the twitter thread, is only alluding to Mario HD from the looks of it.

 

[J. Bond]

I seriously don't give a **** about 20 year old bing bing wahoo ports. I can play that **** on my phone, takes 15 seconds at most to install a N64 emulator and Mario 64 rom, bit more for Dolphin and a Sunshine iso.

 

[Shroob]

So now we have 3 names going in on tomorrow....errr, today.


It's odd. They all seem EXTREMELY confident in this, but at the same time, they're really not alluding to a Direct as much as they all are "Mario HD"


But at the same time, Direct Directory edit and Smash event missing.



Curiouser and Curiouser.

 

[XorahnGaia]

I'm extremely late to this conversation, but I just want to point out that I doubt that Ryce knows anything about Smash, he's treated as a regular user by the SmashEra folks for a reason.

To put this in perspective, the last time he got anything right for Smash was when he predicted Banjo, and even then that wasn't based on any insider knowledge he had, just on his "gut feeling"...the same gut feeling that told him that a Resident Evil character was likely going to be in the Fighter Pass and... well you know how that turned out.

Also, notice how none of the Geno Supporters there freaked out about him posting those gifs. He was likely just making a quick proof of concept for a hypothetical trailer for the puppet since his inclusion is an evergreen topic there just as much it is here.

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

I'm extremely late to this conversation, but I just want to point out that I doubt that Ryce knows anything about Smash, he's treated as a regular user by the SmashEra folks for a reason.

To put this in perspective, the last time he got anything right for Smash was when he predicted Banjo, and even then that wasn't based on any insider knowledge he had, just on his "gut feeling"...the same gut feeling that told him that a Resident Evil character was likely going to be in the Fighter Pass and... well you know how that turned out.

Also, notice how none of the Geno Supporters there freaked out about him posting those gifs. He was likely just making a quick proof of concept for a hypothetical trailer for the puppet since his inclusion is an evergreen topic there just as much it is here.

I think he does know some stuff about Smash, but it's very little. He knew Cloud in Smash 4 (Apparently, I just thought it was only Tansut) and was one of the few to know Piranha Plant. Other than that he has leaked nothing.

 

[dream1ng]

Ryce knew about Ridley as well.

Ryce knows some stuff.

The question is how much does Ryce know.

 

[I.D.]

I'm extremely late to this conversation, but I just want to point out that I doubt that Ryce knows anything about Smash, he's treated as a regular user by the SmashEra folks for a reason.

To put this in perspective, the last time he got anything right for Smash was when he predicted Banjo, and even then that wasn't based on any insider knowledge he had, just on his "gut feeling"...the same gut feeling that told him that a Resident Evil character was likely going to be in the Fighter Pass and... well you know how that turned out.

Also, notice how none of the Geno Supporters there freaked out about him posting those gifs. He was likely just making a quick proof of concept for a hypothetical trailer for the puppet since his inclusion is an evergreen topic there just as much it is here.

I think it's pretty funny that people in this thread are freaking out while the people in the thread where he actually posted don't seem to give a ****

 

[Deleted member]

So we are back at Geno? Interesting.

I am still betting on Phoenix Wright, but considering we got long time requested characters like Ridley, King K. Rool, and Banjo & Kazooie, I feel like Geno isn't off the table.

Well, if that's the case, then he's the Sakurai pick. My overall point still stands.

Personally, I believe Terry was the Sakurai pick, but more can arrive our way.

 

[Animegamingnerd]

So Monolithsoft has grown from 130 employees in 2017 to 254 employees today.

Monolith Soft has 254 employees from only 130 as of XC2's release.

Posted in r/NintendoSwitch by u/Trobis • 439 points and 114 comments

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Nintendo cleared invested a lot into the studio after 2017 to expand like. Likely due to their success with assisting in the development of Splatoon 2 and BOTW and of course developing Xenoblade 2 all at the same time and all 3 games being very successful from both a commercial and critical standpoint.

All the more reason why should we get Rex.