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And I just now remembered that the game's version of White Mage was one of my first video game waifus.There's already FF x DQ on consoles, though! ...Kinda?
Well, it's something!![]()
Wasn't there a Dosin the Giant trophy in Melee?
Yeah, I thought he would be the perfect joke character. After the Everyone Is Here trailer it was said to see that his support died down because he wasn't a "fan favorite" pick.
I was mainly thinking of Bandai-Namco using SoulCalibur as a basis and making it's own thing off of it, but ArcSys works too.
Yes he is, and he's not even a spirit in Ultimate.
Hmm... interesting. That could be a reason as to why they apparently said no to Doom. They must’ve had several reasons to say no to an iconic franchise like that from a developer that’s been really supportive of them lately.
a FE fighting game by ArcSys is the only FE fighting game Id play. I think it would look better in 2D anime form
— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) August 23, 2020
neither is the Bit Trip Runner, who was the first indie character to have a Trophy in 4
Of all the franchises that have been in Smash (discounting those only mentioned in the Brawl Chronicle), the following are not represented in Ultimate:
Yeah, that and Japan isn't as big on blood and gore. While Doomguy can be separated from the bloodiness just fine, Nintendo may have though that he wouldn't have enough global appeal, or maybe they're going for a different Bethesda property, like Skyrim.
I guess Tales is going to be back eventually, maybe wityh a playable fighters but if not I don't see why the mii costume wouldn't be back.
Wait, doesn't Nintendo usually gain full rights whenever that happens?
The Vault Boy costume makes me think Dovahkiin is out. Fallout is Elder Scrolls’s sister franchises so I imagine they would’ve saved Vault Boy for then.
This is a great roster and I can tell there's a lot of love put into it, but there's some glaring omissions. It feels way too Japan-centric, for one, when Sega historically has done amazing business by targeting every territory with games that appeal to them. Some choices like Ristar and Joe Musashi being out when other characters from their franchises are just odd. Many of the picks are pretty deep cuts, you'd expect this theoretical first game in a series to feature moreso the mainstays of Sega.Alright here it is:
Some character playstyle summaries:
Arle (Puyo Puyo): A spell caster +trap setter character. Set up puyos that upon being chained by another releases a elemental magic explosion depending on which color was chained. Once chain reaction hits its time to punish with her magic skills.
Greedy(Ristar): A defense oriented character, Has ton of close range projectiles like black holes, orbs, and laser beams. You work into trying to get the opponent off balance to go for the kill.
Sakura (Sakura Wars): stance change(based off the Stratagems) samurai mech fighter
Sumire (Sakura Wars): a long range Naginata mech fighter, uses similar gimmick Sakura has
Rika (Phantasy Star): A rushdown character, uses her metal claws to tear opponents apart
Risa (Phantasy Star): The super projectile character, based off PSO2 Ranger class, uses Launchers and Rifles for massive destruction
Vyse (Skies of Arcadia): A cross up double sword fighter, uses moon magic for buffs. Receives assist by other Blue Rogue members.
Drachma (Skies of Arcadia): A heavy grappler that can also use moon magic
Busujima (HOTD/Zombie Revenge): a brawler, melee weapon, and gun user. can summon random zombies from the HOTD series like Frank West.
Magician(HOTD): A Zoner character that sets up his fire powers for massive combo damage
Temjin(Virtual-On): a fast rushdown/cross up character. If he gets an opponent from behind its over.
Space Harrier: a projectile character with RNG mechanics. Pulls out Weponalds shop to buy random weapon that could change the fight. Can get Opa-Opa to assist him.
Alex Kidd: a Rock(slow but powerful), Paper(fast but low attack) , Scissor(balance) stance brawler. Also brings out his vehicles.
NiGHTs: Air Juggler fighter. The more the opponent stays in air the more danger their in.
Hotsuma (Shinobi): A fragile but powerful character. Low HP and His sword takes slowly damages him so you need to kill the opponent as fast as possible.
Ulala (Space Channel 5): A trap setter that uses dancing moves and a blaster to fight. You can set up trap up, down, left, right. if caught the opponent gets stunned.
Beat (Jet Set Radio): A crazy leg combo fighter. Depends on stunning opponents with his spray can. Fighting style is reminiscent of Skate from Streets of Rage.
Green(Gunstar Heroes): A form change fighter. changes to his different forms from his boss battle to due rekkas damage.
Alpha Trio (Dinosaur King): a weird Summoner character. Urusula calls out Ed and Zander in her attacks destroy opponents strategies by surprise. Can also call out Terry the T-Rex during supers. Has High HP but is difficult to learn.
If you're wondering where your favorite Sonic or SEGA/Atlus character, they're likley in the game as an assist or stage backgrounds. Some will obviously be saved for DLC or sequel.
Went with 30 unique characters cause thats a good universal roster limit for a first time game series, going anywhere above that would cost alot and be more time consuming. You have to build up.
Usually, but exceptions are possible. Comes down to whatever the legalities stipulated, which aren't always the same from case-to-case.
I'm pretty sure that it's been confirmed that Nintendo owns all the copyright from the Doshin games. I may be misremembering, but I recall watching a Did You Know Gaming video where the director of the games said something to that effect.
I think we're more likely to see an ARMS 2 next generation than anything more this generation.
Not usually with their multiplayer games, though.
Oh for sure.
So Twintelle was added to promote the sequel? Sneaky.
Really?
A game designed specifically for men of culture.
Kinda redundant with my last reply to your roster, but on the Sonic side of things in a Sega-only fighting game I feel there's no universe where they'd include Shadow but not Tails and/or Knuckles in the base roster. I'd argue even if they didn't want Sonic to make any huge percentage of the roster and limited it to 3 at first. At the very least Sonic, Tails, and Eggman (or Knuckles if Eggman is designated a boss-only character which might be a possibility) would be the 3 and they plan from the very beginning to include Shadow as DLC (Where it'd seem like they're answering the inevitable loud campaigns that would be made for Shadow to get in this game once it was shown he's not in the base roster, but really they're grabbing cash from those who are really Shadow-centric in the fanbase). Though perhaps it'd just be easier to include 4-5 Sonic characters (In order to make room for Shadow) in the base which is still what'd I'd expect at minimum out of Sonic even if Sega kept things tight at the 30 character roster spread across all franchises they decide to include.
Pretty much thisKinda redundant with my last reply to your roster, but on the Sonic side of things in a Sega-only fighting game I feel there's no universe where they'd include Shadow but not Tails and/or Knuckles in the base roster. I'd argue even if they didn't want Sonic to make any huge percentage of the roster and limited it to 3 at first. At the very least Sonic, Tails, and Eggman (or Knuckles if Eggman is designated a boss-only character which might be a possibility) would be the 3 and they plan from the very beginning to include Shadow as DLC (Where it'd seem like they're answering the inevitable loud campaigns that would be made for Shadow to get in this game once it was shown he's not in the base roster, but really they're grabbing cash from those who are really Shadow-centric in the fanbase). Though perhaps it'd just be easier to include 4-5 Sonic characters (In order to make room for Shadow) in the base which is still what'd I'd expect at minimum out of Sonic even if Sega kept things tight at the 30 character roster spread across all franchises they decide to include.
Even ignoring my favoritism for Tails or even how Tails has rarely been absent from a Sonic game even with games with limited cast, I just can't see the first character other then Sonic and Eggman to appear in the franchise's first motion picture (That had a successful box office performance for Video game movie standards) in the longest time's sequel hook where he'll have an inevitably bigger role in the coming sequel to be passed over if Sega greenlighted a crossover fighter of their own that includes Sonic characters
Perhaps it's a little picky to bother you only about one Sonic character. But when it's a character that still shows up all the time AND one of the few characters comparable to Luigi where the Player 2 is instantly recognizable even amongst those who don't pay attention to Video games as often. It's kind of a big omission
You mean this?
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I don't know why people think ARMS is tied to the Joycons. Most people who play ARMS competitively use buttons and it's the best way to play the game.
If anything, i would speculate that both are extremely unpopular in Japan (doom 16 sold like...10k copies and even Halo 3, the very peak of the franchise sold....50k although it was attached to an irrelevant console). But i think the real argument should be whether a truly foreigner driven pick does justify the ambivalence in their home country (to which, naturally the halo franchise is more successful/bigger financially than doom).
110k for Halo 3 actually.
Alright but where’s JOE MUSASHI BABYAlright here it is:
Some character playstyle summaries:
Arle (Puyo Puyo): A spell caster +trap setter character. Set up puyos that upon being chained by another releases a elemental magic explosion depending on which color was chained. Once chain reaction hits its time to punish with her magic skills.
Greedy(Ristar): A defense oriented character, Has ton of close range projectiles like black holes, orbs, and laser beams. You work into trying to get the opponent off balance to go for the kill.
Sakura (Sakura Wars): stance change(based off the Stratagems) samurai mech fighter
Sumire (Sakura Wars): a long range Naginata mech fighter, uses similar gimmick Sakura has
Rika (Phantasy Star): A rushdown character, uses her metal claws to tear opponents apart
Risa (Phantasy Star): The super projectile character, based off PSO2 Ranger class, uses Launchers and Rifles for massive destruction
Vyse (Skies of Arcadia): A cross up double sword fighter, uses moon magic for buffs. Receives assist by other Blue Rogue members.
Drachma (Skies of Arcadia): A heavy grappler that can also use moon magic
Busujima (HOTD/Zombie Revenge): a brawler, melee weapon, and gun user. can summon random zombies from the HOTD series like Frank West.
Magician(HOTD): A Zoner character that sets up his fire powers for massive combo damage
Temjin(Virtual-On): a fast rushdown/cross up character. If he gets an opponent from behind its over.
Space Harrier: a projectile character with RNG mechanics. Pulls out Weponalds shop to buy random weapon that could change the fight. Can get Opa-Opa to assist him.
Alex Kidd: a Rock(slow but powerful), Paper(fast but low attack) , Scissor(balance) stance brawler. Also brings out his vehicles.
NiGHTs: Air Juggler fighter. The more the opponent stays in air the more danger their in.
Hotsuma (Shinobi): A fragile but powerful character. Low HP and His sword takes slowly damages him so you need to kill the opponent as fast as possible.
Ulala (Space Channel 5): A trap setter that uses dancing moves and a blaster to fight. You can set up trap up, down, left, right. if caught the opponent gets stunned.
Beat (Jet Set Radio): A crazy leg combo fighter. Depends on stunning opponents with his spray can. Fighting style is reminiscent of Skate from Streets of Rage.
Green(Gunstar Heroes): A form change fighter. changes to his different forms from his boss battle to due rekkas damage.
Alpha Trio (Dinosaur King): a weird Summoner character. Urusula calls out Ed and Zander in her attacks destroy opponents strategies by surprise. Can also call out Terry the T-Rex during supers. Has High HP but is difficult to learn.
If you're wondering where your favorite Sonic or SEGA/Atlus character, they're likley in the game as an assist or stage backgrounds. Some will obviously be saved for DLC or sequel.
Went with 30 unique characters cause thats a good universal roster limit for a first time game series, going anywhere above that would cost alot and be more time consuming. You have to build up.
I don’t know, it seems like Bethesda had some
I agree 100%. If we can get such good representation for the JRPG genre (justifiably), then it shouldn’t be unreasonable to ask the same for the FPS genre. Chief, Doom Slayer, Gordon Freeman, Tracer & Heavy could be as diverse in playstyle as Marth, Cloud, Joker, Hero & Pikachu.
