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I’m not saying they aren’t, or even trying to make an argument against characters with swords. I’m just trying to maybe explain/give a reason why the majority of the community gets upset seeing another swordfighter added.
I Get that, What I mean is was it bogus Sakurai put his Costume essentially behind a $25 Paywall, because you can't get his costume any other way.
And that's why we should start buying more games with Protags that use more unique weapons
Damn, that’s a badass storyline!Yup - Arthas is the Lich King.
He starts out as a Paladin and heir to the Human Alliance in WarCraft III, but attacks from the Undead Scourge - lead by the Lich King - and their Burning Legion allies (basically demons hell-bent on destroying all life, the Undead's an indirect creation of theirs) wear on him slowly but surely. He goes for more and more extreme solutions until he ventures north towards the Undead-dominated continent of Northend, searching for an Excalibur-like blade (Frostmourne) that he thinks can slay one of the Legion's powerful demons. Ignoring the objections from important allies too...
Safe to say, that was a trap. Frostmourne corrupts him totally after he kills the demon, and transforms him into a Death Knight - servant of the Lich King. The resulting events - Arthas starting more waves of Undead uprisings and epidemics - almost broke the Human Alliance: the aftereffects are keenly visible in WoW.
WarCraft 3's campaign ends - after many twists and turns - with the Burning Legion decisively shattered. Albeit it took a final mission and kinda reluctant collab between the remaining humans, Orcs and Night Elves. Anyhow, the shattering leaves the Undead in complete dissarray at The Frozen Throne's start- this disarray creates the rogue Forsaken faction, the playable Undead in WoW who reject the Lich King. With a rogue Night Elf Demon Hunter - Illidan - gathering his forces and vowing to annihiliate the Lich King.
So the Lich King basically sends a magical call to Arthas, requiring aid ASAP. And although Arthas suffers the long version of "New Game syndrome" (losing levels progressively until he's back to Level 1) he likewise gathers the loyal Undead remnants for a mad dash. He arrives just in the nick of time and just outside the Lich King's doorstep. He battles Illidan there - and emerges victorious after cleaving Illidan's crotch. With that done, he enters the Lich King's throneroom and fuses with him.
He remains the fused Lich King until WotLK's end, where he dies - his human self freed at the very end much like Vader. The Scourge remain as a faction, but now severely weakened from Arthas' death and additional defeats.
"Hey, um, my students, I just got an invitation to this fighting tournament, can I borrow your weapons for a bit?"
That was Edelgard's true start of darkness.
The issue isn't that Paper Mario's moveset would be based somewhat on the newer games (including The Origami King). It's that his moveset would essentially be the newer games and only the newer games, with the first three games being completely ignored despite the moveset potential they all provide.
My main issue is people complain about the sword users, yet we have just as many punchy kick characters and no one seems to take offense
BeCAuSe PaPEr MaRiO is MaDE oF PaPPeR
TBH I'm not sure it's anything too deep: I just think some people get really irrationally angry over character choices in this game, and take anything that isn't what specifically appeals to them as a personal slight.
Same with them not caring about Mario and Pokemon getting too many reps and hating on Fire Emblem.
Right, and I don't see how that's less different from normal Mario than basing it off of just PM64 and TTYD or all games across the series. Like, if you think it's one too many Marios regardless that's valid, but if that's only a problem if the moveset is based on games you don't like I think that's a dumb complaint.
If people want to talk about Fire Emblem, or anything for that matter, let them talk about it. It's very easy to ignore those posts and not clog up the thread with "stop talking about (insert topic here)." It's also very easy to start a new topic without complaining about the current one.
Agreed.
They're a super common fictional weapon as a whole.
On top of that, they’re the two biggest game series ever.
Yeah, they must think that sort of roster is a real Nightmare.
this AND Danganronpa V3 spoilers. I have yet to play the game period
Indeed it is! Blizzard does fumble on its storylines and the execution every now and again (WoW's gameplay ensures that as long as it's online the Humans and the Orcs can't be at a steady peace for instance, and that alone creates its own share of fumbles). But on the whole, the ideas are often pretty great - which is why a lot of people have invested into them.
Hell, Kazooie is completely untouchable for most ofNow, all together, 20/83 = 24%. Which isn’t exactly too bad, especially considering I’m stretching by including. But the main problem, I think, is that so many have been introduced in one game, people are tired of seeing the swordfighter archetype after 3-4 additions in the same game. And Fire Emblem has made a massive jump from 2 to 8 in a matter of 2 games. I think the closeness in reveal is the primary reason people are upset when they see another swordfighter/FE character.
's animations and Banjo has a hitbox like most Swordies*, so depending on the POV one could argue that B-K's a secret Swordie too. Something like this?
If you stick around long enough, you'll get to see us talk about Pokemon again.
I know you want the Fire Emblem conversation to end, but I doubt that condescending strawman posts are the solution.
these two things right here are really important to stress imo, because this isn't just a byleth thing, this is an overarching problem with this community in regards to certain reveals and certain things parts of certain fanbases have done in the past: we never let stuff go.
Meh. I'd rather get GBC and GBA games first...
That's not a sword, that's a key!
It would be TWO Mario's too many. But can't fix the other one without a time machine.
it's possible
Well, we'd only be tying the number of Links and Samuses in the game, plus there's no denying Paper Mario would be extremely unique to vanilla Mario. I don't think being a third Mario is necessarily why people would be displeased with Paper Mario joining the battle.
No, I think they'd just do an all-out double reveal if both Fighters 7 and 8 were presentable, especially if the upcoming Direct is just the contents of an intended E3 2020 Direct. Otherwise, we'd just get Fighter 7 and that would be it until the next Direct.
This.
SC6 gonna end on 18 characters out of 28 that use a sword going by datamines lol
I'm expecting only a fighter 7 reveal and nothing more. Not even a fighter 8 tease
