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Geno fans are currently where Ridley fans were Pre Smash 4 and K.Rool fans were in Smash 4 DLC's period.
Do you know where they said this? First time I hear that.
That's a mass oversimplification of what happened but I'm not getting into the argument right now.
I think it would probably mitigate some of the histrionics, sure, but in my experience, and this goes for pretty much every fanbase - people inside the fandom aren't usually too receptive to the opinions of people outside the fandom. Unless they're positive.
Heres a couple, Edit: havent played recent paper mario games so I wouldn’t know how accurate it is
Perhaps that is the case. I am not sure all of them will be mellowed by this, as it is going to be hard for some to become that. But I can't imagine that you are wrong here for the most part.
Exactly, Teeb! I was talking about removing bias rather than attachment, if the two are any different, but still, your point stands. Unfortunately, the Geno fans are putting their happiness and beliefs into this way too much, especially over a video game character. If they were wrong, it could hurt them more than it could have a positive effect on them, even if they say otherwise. They have said that they would not be so upset, which I find hard to believe.Well there are some buddhist teachings for removing attachment, but I think that's kinda hard for most people. And it's kinda like heartbreak.. how can you not get attached to what you love. Of course it's going to hurt, but you learn and grow to be better at handling it, learning some lessons, and maybe not attaching as hard next time. For some people it takes a little longer to learn XD
Nothing wrong with desire. It's just.. there's ways to be positive without investing soo much into something you want happening. Not putting your happiness and beliefs in it. Just be happy in general, and enjoy cheering and being open to possibilities
Well.. easier said than done, but I still think that's the way to go about it :D
Or maybe if those outside the Geno fanbase said good things about Geno being in the game in general as well. Still, people can still try to help them, but it is true as you said that change ultimately comes from within. Sadly, even if some people do change, others, with the inertia they may have, will not be able to do so, being unable to convince themselves to change.
Ok so mostly for paper mario. Honestly I didnt notice XD
Lol I'd almost forgot how bad it was at some points. I think I put it out of my mind cuz there were some unpleasant debates at some points.
Dont know much of it, But It would be interesting to know more about that. I also read miyamoto saw his caracters we’re getting complicated or something like that Gotta wonder what game game him that inpression.That's a mass oversimplification of what happened but I'm not getting into the argument right now.
So I'll just post a Koopaling thing and call it a day.
Oh definitely. Once in a while you do see a post around from someone who's like why are we putting so much into video game characters. It's a good question, but at the same time, it's how we feel about them that makes us interested in all the news and speculation, and more
It was Super Paper Mario.
Of course. I guess you can even say wanting to feel good and being happy is like a drug in some way. The deeper you allow yourself to like something, the harder it is to get off of it and move on. I can imagine some people on the Geno forum being more crushed about being wrong than just moving on from it, depending on how each one is attached to wanting Geno. All especially if Geno does not get in, period. All that energy potentially wasted over nothing. There is also the sad fact that they may not realize it until it is too late, and it ends up hurting them so much.Oh definitely. Once in a while you do see a post around from someone who's like why are we putting so much into video game characters. It's a good question, but at the same time, it's how we feel about them that makes us interested in all the news and speculation, and more
Hmmm.. well desire leads to attachment, and attachment leads to bias. When you're attached, you don't want to believe it couldnt' happen, because that hurts. And it feels good to believe that it's true.
Humans wanna feel good XD But you're right, in the long term it hurts more to be wrong. Cuz then you're crushed, and wondering why your beliefs messed up.
Well, it's a new fighter pass, and who knows, maybe nintendo would want sakurai to have a few from the poll list. Geno was up there in terms of votes, and even a character sakurai wanted in the past, so there's still enough in Geno's favor for it to be possible.
Yeah, it is possible. Still, I kinda doubt that they would decide to go with poll characters. Not completely, though, but still. I also said one of the reasons against Geno is that he is an obscure character, more than Banjo-Kazooie, maybe. With that, another reason could be he might not be profitable, especially in NIntendo's eyes, and that he is not as accessible compared to some other characters.
It's funny, because the Geno fans have already been here before. During Brawl. It's just that now there's a new crop of them.
Maybe I'm overly cynical, but if one "outsider" tries to impart a more measured demeanour on the fanbase, and they do it politely and even ingratiate themselves through flattery of Geno, people might "like" that post, people may even agree with that post, maybe even the following pages try to chill things out a bit. But eventually mob mentality will resume. Because feelings will outweigh reason. And especially because there are individuals in there who purposefully maintain the state of being on tenterhooks.
Well, if we do look at Banjo. It's not really a relevant character, and was probably in just because of fan demand. Banjo is actually a great entry to say that Geno is still possible. But yes, Geno is definitely more obscure XD Well known in the smash speculation scene tho.
Don't feelings always outweigh reason, though? Still, if only those Geno fans could see why they are being picked on by others, and not taken seriously. Then again, that can go for any fanbase, specifically the K. Rool and Ridley fanbase.
I understand that. I do. If this does end up true will be another story altogether. Technically, no one knows all the characters that will be in this pass, but while we can still speculate, and that is not a bad thing, there are lines too often crossed and people do go way to far.
Sure, no one's perfect. I do prefer when people are down to earth and not making too much of things. It's fun to speculate just for fun. Tho i did have fun being invested too, it's just disappointing when you have feelings into something and it doesnt happen.
You're probably right. That said, I was talking about trying to convince others as a "could do", rather than a "must do", if you know what I mean.
Oh yeah if someone is very subtle, it can sometimes work. But that depends how sensitive some people are. sometimes 'could do' triggers as well
Well, I think feeling points you in the direction of the character you want, and keeps you supporting them, and reason prevents you from buying into every rumour or theory you hear about them and maintains some degree of perspective. They're both important. But the more people congregate behind a shared passion, the more feeling pushes ahead while reason falters.
Yeah honestly dunno how nintendo feels about making announcements during the weekend, but havent lost total hope on it.
I think you are right about K. Rool. I was part of that fanbase during the Smash 4 days.
I meant could do as in you don't have to do it, to be clear. Still, it could only work on some people as well, not all of them.Oh yeah if someone is very subtle, it can sometimes work. But that depends how sensitive some people are. sometimes 'could do' triggers as well
Might be a mini at this rate.
Shadowdrop or not, you have to be on time or you get ****ed. Can't be 1 minute late to the Direct before those ****ers on YouTube speed upload their "OMG!!!! CHARACTER SMASH REVEAL REACTION!!" like the ad-revenue-spamming ***** they are.
Like damn.
Tbh, I can't really blame them. The way Youtube works makes it a lot more difficult to stand out with this type of content if you take too long to post after the event.Shadowdrop or not, you have to be on time or you get ****ed. Can't be 1 minute late to the Direct before those ****ers on YouTube speed upload their "OMG!!!! CHARACTER SMASH REVEAL REACTION!!" like the ad-revenue-spamming ***** they are.
Might be? How much from E3's worth of reveals do we have left?
As someone who was part of the fanbase during that time, but not on this site, I can somewhat confirm this.
You can just post that now and always have it be true.
Sometimes it feels like we're always on the first one and occasionally someone meekly offers the latter before getting crushed under the 582403th "deserving" argument.
The fanbase's two options, circa 2020.
Hey! Half of us were right about Banjo & another half was right about Edrick! <_____<
I just like discussing new characters. Without them, we'll just keep going in circles around Geno for the 821368th time, debating random points that are more about being right than about Geno's actual chances. The Atelier discussion was nice because we'd never touched on that before, and I kinda wish it had gone on longer. With that discussion boiling down and the possibility of the direct not coming/being a mini, it feels like the discussion will go back to the well-worn circles again.
