Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

If we got ****ing Rash in Smash, just how many goddamn early internet memes could we squeeze into a single Smash fight?


Corneria(Barrel Roll!)
Richter(Die monster, you don't belong in this world!)
Rash(Battletoads, obviously)

What else

C-C-C-C-C-C-Combo Breaker!

...Goddamn anything from Clayfighter.

That's all I got. That or I am missing your question's point.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Coincidentally Rash is unique as a type of blemish. As Zits and Pimple are literally synonyms.

I mean... you're right but...

What?

 

[Will]

Rash(Battletoads, obviously)

We will all call GameStop and ask if they sell Fighter's Pass #7: Rash from Battletoads.

 

[Shroob]

C-C-C-C-C-C-Combo Breaker!

...Goddamn anything from Clayfighter.

That's all I got. That or I am missing your question's point.

I mean, how many early early internet inspired memes could we fit into a single, X amount of players Smash.


We got Barrel roll via Corneria

We got the bad script of SotN

We'd have "Calling Gamestop for Battletoads"

**** like that.

 

[Will]

I think it was Rash, yeah.

Though maybe one was the leader in the tv show or something? They sometimes use outside materials or various booklets to help figure these things out.

Coincidentally Rash is unique as a type of blemish. As Zits and Pimple are literally synonyms.

Zitz is the leader of the Battletoads, IIRC.

Rash is basically Raphael from TMNT but in frog form last time I checked..

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I mean, how many early early internet inspired memes could we fit into a single, X amount of players Smash.


We got Barrel roll via Corneria

We got the bad script of SotN

We'd have "Calling Gamestop for Battletoads"

**** like that.

Like I said, I got nothing.

Outside of "Mortal Kombat banned in Japan", I guess? Maybe? I dunno.

Zitz is the leader of the Battletoads, IIRC.

Rash is basically Raphael from TMNT but in frog form last time I checked..

...Oh, huh. Thanks for noting that.

 

[Will]

Outside of "Mortal Kombat banned in Japan", I guess? Maybe? I dunno.

Not much of a meme, that's just a really terrible spread of misinformation.

For example, you could find a plethora of things related.

...Oh, huh. Thanks for noting that.

I didn't Google this I knew this cause of Death Battle in 2013 lol

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Not much of a meme, that's just a really terrible spread of misinformation.

For example, you could find a plethora of things related.

It seems like a meme at this point. XD But fair enough.

I didn't Google this I knew this cause of Death Battle in 2013 lol

I didn't mention Google? I shrug.

Anyway, I got no idea for proper memes like the above ideas.

 

[Will]

Anyway, I got no idea for proper memes like the above ideas.

You got tons of memes dude:

Hotel Mario YTPs | CD-i Zelda YTPs

Sheng Long Hoax | EVO Moment #37

was a Smash-bred early internet meme.

wombo combo baybee

This is only an example. If we wanna really get meta, we can pull up Kirbopher's Brawl Taunts shorts.

 

[Koopaul]

Alright here's a list of 20 potential 3rd party fighters I've ordered from most likely to least likely.

1. Travis Touchdown - No More Heroes
2. Lloyd - Tales of Symphonia
3. Ryu Hayabusa - Ninja Gaiden
4. Monster Hunter - Monster Hunter
5. Nightmare - Soul Calibur
6. Chosen Undead - Dark Souls
7. Steve - Minecraft
8. Sir Arthur - Ghosts 'N Goblins
9. Crash - Crash Bandicoot
10. Sol Badguy - Guilty Gear
11. Tracer - Overwatch
12. Bill Rizer - Contra
13. Jonesy (or others) - Fortnite
14. Dragonborn - Skyrim
15. Ryo - Shenmue
16. Kratos - God of War
17. Rayman - Rayman
18. Doom Slayer - Doom
19. Reimu - Touhou Project
20. Bub & Bob - Bubble Bobble

 

[Will]

Alright here's a list of 20 potential fighters I've ordered from most likely to least likely.

15. Ryo - Shenmue

16. Kratos - God of War
17. Rayman - Rayman
18. Doom Slayer - Doom
19. Reimu - Touhou Project

Huh? Did Shenmue 3 do that well or something?

 

[PeridotGX]

DLC rankings? I'm gonna due it based on the content, as every DLC character was a resounding "eh" before their reveal.

7. - I like his stage and music, but he just doesn't fit my playstyle. Not bad, just meh.

6. - Same deal as Joker, but I might like her gameplay more? I don't know. she's really weird to control.

5.- I really like his stage and music, and most of his gameplay is nice, but there's one thing I dislike that really messes up the whole package: mandatory imputs for the Go attacks. I absolutely suck at imputs (I can barely do a hadouken), and there isn't even an option to do a weaker version with standard controls.

(big gap)

4. . There's no supplimentary content, which is a shame, but I really like his playstyle. I tried to main him for awhile, but it didn't work out.

3. . People complain about his playstyle, but I don't get it. He feels great, and this is coming from someone who has literally never touched a Banjo game.

2.. Another character with a really fun playstyle. The songs and stage are nice, and he's the character I had the closest thing to a connection to.

"why did you not try to main Banjo and Byleth, but you tried to main Plant, who's lower on the list?" you might be asking. The awnser to that is simple...

1. . After Hero, I didn't need a new main. I adore his playstyle, all his attacks have an "oomph" to them that's unlike any other character on the roster. And Down B... It's a dumb move and probably shouldn't exist, but I love it.. His supplementary content isn't great, but the core Hero playstyle makes up for it,

From speculation to reality

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We live in the better timeline, imo

Incineroar and good are terms I've come to discover are mutually exclusive.

 

[Will]

Incineroar and good are terms I've come to discover are mutually exclusive.

It's been two years, let it go.

 

[SnowClaws]

Yeah, that's what I meant. No representation at all, Spirits included. I mean, no representation means no Spirits, right?

Not necessary, there are certain franchises represent by only their music, stickers, or trophies from previous Smash games, but have no Spirits. To said those certain franchise having no representation just from having no Spirits is wrong. So, in a way, "no representation means no Spirits" can be easily be changed into "no representation means no music", "no representation means no stickers", or "no representation means no trophies", etc. The "no representation means no Spirits" is flaw when it applied to such franchises with no Spirits, but they have representation in the form of music, stickers or trophies.

For example on franchise with music representation, but no spirit, there is AR Games (Dragon Battle), Freakyforms (Freakyforms: Your Creations, Alive! Medley), Nes Remix (Title Theme - Nes Remix 2), and Tank Troopers (Garage)
For example on franchise with trophy representation, but no spirit, there is Freakyforms (King Roy's trophy in Smash 3DS)

 

[DarthEnderX]

Alright here's a list of 20 potential 3rd party fighters I've ordered from most likely to least likely.

1. Travis Touchdown - No More Heroes
2. Lloyd - Tales of Symphonia
3. Ryu Hayabusa - Ninja Gaiden
4. Monster Hunter - Monster Hunter
5. Nightmare - Soul Calibur
6. Chosen Undead - Dark Souls
7. Steve - Minecraft
8. Sir Arthur - Ghosts 'N Goblins
9. Crash - Crash Bandicoot
10. Sol Badguy - Guilty Gear
11. Tracer - Overwatch
12. Bill Rizer - Contra
13. Jonesy (or others) - Fortnite
14. Dragonborn - Skyrim
15. Ryo - Shenmue
16. Kratos - God of War
17. Rayman - Rayman
18. Doom Slayer - Doom
19. Reimu - Touhou Project
20. Bub & Bob - Bubble Bobble

Alright here's a list of 20 potential 3rd party fighters I've ordered from most wanted to least wanted by me:

1. Ryu Hayabusa [Ninja Gaiden]
2. Bill Rizer/Lance Bean [Contra]
3. Arthur [Ghosts ‘n Goblins]
4. Kunio/Riki [River City Ransom]
5. Bub/Bob [Bubble Bobble]
6. Nathan Spencer [Bionic Commando]
7. Rash/Zitz [Battletoads]
8. Shantae [Shantae]
9. SV-001 Metal Slug [Metal Slug]
10. Kazuma Kiryu [Yakuza]
11. Jill Valentine [Resident Evil]
12. Morrigan [Darkstalkers]
13. Nightmare [Soul Calibur]
14. Viewtiful Joe [Viewtiful Joe]
15. Amaterasu [Okami]
16. Dante [Devil May Cry]
17. Mike Haggar [Final Fight]
18. Strider Hiryu [Strider]
19. Nakoruru [Samurai Shodown]
20. Goemon/Ebisumaru [Legend of the Mystical Ninja]

 

[Hinata]

Alright here's a list of 20 potential 3rd party fighters I've ordered from most likely to least likely.

1. Travis Touchdown - No More Heroes
2. Lloyd - Tales of Symphonia
3. Ryu Hayabusa - Ninja Gaiden
4. Monster Hunter - Monster Hunter
5. Nightmare - Soul Calibur
6. Chosen Undead - Dark Souls
7. Steve - Minecraft
8. Sir Arthur - Ghosts 'N Goblins
9. Crash - Crash Bandicoot
10. Sol Badguy - Guilty Gear
11. Tracer - Overwatch
12. Bill Rizer - Contra
13. Jonesy (or others) - Fortnite
14. Dragonborn - Skyrim
15. Ryo - Shenmue
16. Kratos - God of War
17. Rayman - Rayman
18. Doom Slayer - Doom
19. Reimu - Touhou Project
20. Bub & Bob - Bubble Bobble

Alright here's a list of 20 potential 3rd party fighters I've ordered from most wanted to least wanted by me:

1. Ryu Hayabusa [Ninja Gaiden]
2. Bill Rizer/Lance Bean [Contra]
3. Arthur [Ghosts ‘n Goblins]
4. Kunio/Riki [River City Ransom]
5. Bub/Bob [Bubble Bobble]
6. Nathan Spencer [Bionic Commando]
7. Rash/Zitz [Battletoads]
8. Shantae [Shantae]
9. SV-001 Metal Slug [Metal Slug]
10. Kazuma Kiryu [Yakuza]
11. Jill Valentine [Resident Evil]
12. Morrigan [Darkstalkers]
13. Nightmare [Soul Calibur]
14. Viewtiful Joe [Viewtiful Joe]
15. Amaterasu [Okami]
16. Dante [Devil May Cry]
17. Mike Haggar [Final Fight]
18. Strider Hiryu [Strider]
19. Nakoruru [Samurai Shodown]
20. Goemon/Ebisumaru [Legend of the Mystical Ninja]

Both of y'all made lists consistin' of 20 characters, and not one of those slots went to Phoenix Wright. You make me sick.

DarthEnder gets a pass for includin' Kiryu, though.

 

[Shroob]

I have absolutely no idea how Yakuza in Smash would work, but the idea of Kiryu being in Smash seems ****ing hilarious.

 

[Hinata]

I have absolutely no idea how Yakuza in Smash would work, but the idea of Kiryu being in Smash seems ****ing hilarious.

Simple. Kiryu gets to beat the **** out of Pikachu with a bike he picked up off the street.

The stage would be the top of the Millennium Tower, because the Yakuza devs just LOVE that place.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

DLC Pass ratings

Have not bought or fought against, no opinion

Easily the best ****ing addition since Cloud, I've stated multiple times before we got the SNK leak that Terry was the most deserving character due to the insane influence SNK had for fighting games, with KoF specifically influencing Smash immensely. The stage is easily my favourite stage, I fight on it more than Temple these days, the godlike music helps too, 50 ****ing songs. No CvS2 but they'd have to ask Capcom for that so I get it. In terms of playstyle, holy **** Terry's so goddamn satisfying. Incredibly crunchy sound effects, moves flow really well into each other and the mad man gave him Buster Wolf in his moveset. 5/5

Hero's my most played character with over 9 hours clocked in on just my Switch, even if I lose as Hero, I still have great fun hearing the screams of anguish from my friends whenever I try dumb **** and make ot work. Unfortunately, the stage is really samey to a bunch of other stages, blue skies with lots of green is very common for Smash and the music isn't any good at all, it says something when literally nobody I know chooses it. 4/5

Byleth is pretty weird to play but despite me getting BTFO about them, I do find them really enjoyable. Garreg Mach just brings a sense of joy as 3H was my favourite game of 2019, especially considering my personal relationship with Edelgard and Dorothea getting acknowledged by sheer coincidence. The music was fantastic despite the lack of God Shattering Star or Shambala but I can live without them, but the best part? My friends ******* so goddamn hard about Byleth but they all play them. 4/5

Joker's game is a game that if you know me personally, I don't have many pleasant things to say about it, but goddamn it was fun to see it in Smash. The stage's aesthetics are simply fantastic despite how I was hoping for the casino at the beginning of the game, the music is fantastic despite Life Will Change becoming the new Bombing Mission. Sadly, it's not all fun and games. I suck playing as Joker. That's my only issue with the character lmao. 3/5

no Click Clock Wood 0/5

 

[SharkLord]

That could also be something where they could build an infrastructure for further user generated content to be utilized in single player mode. Have classic modes, spirit battles, adventure modes, etc be created downloadable elements ala levels and see what people could do with it.

That's a good idea too. Have more focus on fan creations, maybe a more expansive custom character system. On that note, maybe retool the formula a bit, make it just a little more competitive. Make it clear that's a successor to Smash, but not a full-on sequel; Try to temper expectations a bit.

 

[cmbsfm]

I too wish we had more bosses, and I wish they were more evenly-distributed among Classic Mode routes. The other bosses have such cool designs in terms of fighting, but if you try to clear Classic with every character, have fun fighting the hands like, 80% of the time. Oh, what's that? Ike's Classic route is called "Black-Clad Warriors"? So he fights Dracula who wears black, right? Nope. Hands.

I feel like the fighting game characters should’ve had their own boss fight. I think Akuma could’ve worked as a Giga Bowser like fight. He could’ve been a buffed up-tweaked Ryu. I would’ve made him Ryu,Ken,Terry,Little Mac and Min Min’s boss fight.

 

[SharkLord]

Honestly, with more and more guest characters making their way into Smash, if the next game is going to shake things up, at least in regards to the roster... I think it should go all out and just be a full crossover fighting game, with one half of the roster being Nintendo characters, and the other half being characters from another company.

For example, I don't know how Smash fans would feel about this idea, but as someone who's also a fan of Capcom's Versus Series, a "Nintendo vs. Capcom" game has been something fans of that series have been wanting to see happen for a while, and it's something I'd love to see happen if the next Smash game were to just go full crossover-mode.

And just for fun-sies... here's something I previously posted in the Social Thread a while ago, detailing my preferred roster for a hypothetical "Smash Bros. vs. Capcom" game (by the way, this was made before Min Min was revealed as the ARMS fighter)...

Spoiler: My take on "Super Smash Bros. vs. Capcom" (spoiler-ed for size)

It's cool in theory, but from a veteran Smash fan's perspective, most of the newcomers comes from the Capcom side of things. If you're a Nintendo fan, hype would stagnate a bit, and your most wanted's chances would plummet. I still advocate for a smaller, quirkier roster based around moveset potential and uniqueness over popularity or relevancy.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I have absolutely no idea how Yakuza in Smash would work, but the idea of Kiryu being in Smash seems ****ing hilarious.

Despite the very serious and grounded main plot of the games, Yakuza is a perfect pick for Smash, the item heavy combat system and the absolutely bizarre sidequests make it go from seeming odd to "You know what this makes total sense".

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Fighting game bosses?

Gargos. Why is he a bad idea, though? Because he regenerates health if he's not thrown off the stage proper. Since he's a Smash Boss, he is immune to the Throw Commands. So you either need to edgeguard him like a normal character, or get him to 0 health in the air while he never lands on the stage.

That's what I got for bad boss ideas.

 

[NintenRob]

There are 6 main bosses aside from hand duo and Galeem/Dharkon

What if each character in Fighter Pass 2 fought one of these bosses


Min Min fights Galleom

Bandana Waddle Dee fights Marx

Skull Kid fights Ganon

King Boo fights Dracula

Rex and Pyra fights Rathalos

And finally Dixie Kong fights Giga Bowser

 

[SharkLord]

Despite the very serious and grounded main plot of the games, Yakuza is a perfect pick for Smash, the item heavy combat system and the absolutely bizarre sidequests make it go from seeming odd to "You know what this makes total sense".

I mostly know of him for A: Killing a tiger by punching it with his bare fists and B: Slamming a desk and leaving. Also, there's this guy named Majima who shows up literally everywhere. If I play a Yakuza game, I'm half-expecting to become paranoid of seeing the guy every time I open the fridge.

Fighting game bosses?

Gargos. Why is he a bad idea, though? Because he regenerates health if he's not thrown off the stage proper. Since he's a Smash Boss, he is immune to the Throw Commands. So you either need to edgeguard him like a normal character, or get him to 0 health in the air while he never lands on the stage.

That's what I got for bad boss ideas.

Geese Howard. He's like a fighter, but at the same time he's GEESE ****ING HOWARD, and so he tanks everything, grabs you in the middle of your attack, and the only way to beat him is to shove him off the tower, after which he falls to his death.
Again.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Geese Howard. He's like a fighter, but at the same time he's GEESE ****ING HOWARD, and so he tanks everything, grabs you in the middle of your attack, and the only way to beat him is to shove him off the tower, after which he falls to his death.
Again.

...Wait, how is this different from the Kaptain K. Rool battle? >.>

Or for that matter, what makes it less unfair than The Boss? Cause you can cheese it with Madame Butterfly? XD

 

[SharkLord]

...Wait, how is this different from the Kaptain K. Rool battle? >.>

Or for that matter, what makes it less unfair than The Boss? Cause you can cheese it with Madame Butterfly? XD

Well, for one, he's a boss, not a Spirit. Therefore, if you fight him at the end of a Classic Mode, you have no Spirits to cheese him with.
But then again, Spirits are far less fair than the actual bosses anyways, so...

 

[Hinata]

Also, haven't really said it yet, but now that Spirits are no longer a barrier...

Sakurai, if you're out there listening to us somewhere, please.

 

[Shroob]

This is gonna be an extremely hot take


But despite being a dirty phone game player, I can't really say I'd be down for wanting a character like that in Smash.



Not because "Phone bad" or any dumb reason like that, it's more that...


If I want to say, play a game Terry's in, I can do that via simply buying a game of his on "an" E-shop, picking up the newest King of Fighters, find a working NEO-GEO and pay through the nose for it, or emulate it like a dirty cheater.

If I want to play a Banjo game, same applies there.


Same applies for pretty much anyone on the roster, really.


Now let's take Euden from Dragalia Lost. In ten or so years, when Dragalia Lost's servers are down... there's frankly going to be no way to play that game, period. Games like this, once they're gone, they're gone for good. Once the servers die, outside of fan re-creations, they're gone forever.


It's a bit of an odd hot take, but that's kinda my gripe with phone game reps. Unless they have another series to fall back on, like Saber from Fate, phone games are temporary, unlike how, effectively timeless literally everyone else in the roster is.

 

[GoodGrief741]

This is gonna be an extremely hot take


But despite being a dirty phone game player, I can't really say I'd be down for wanting a character like that in Smash.



Not because "Phone bad" or any dumb reason like that, it's more that...


If I want to say, play a game Terry's in, I can do that via simply buying a game of his on "an" E-shop, picking up the newest King of Fighters, find a working NEO-GEO and pay through the nose for it, or emulate it like a dirty cheater.

If I want to play a Banjo game, same applies there.


Same applies for pretty much anyone on the roster, really.


Now let's take Euden from Dragalia Lost. In ten or so years, when Dragalia Lost's servers are down... there's frankly going to be no way to play that game, period. Games like this, once they're gone, they're gone for good. Once the servers die, outside of fan re-creations, they're gone forever.


It's a bit of an odd hot take, but that's kinda my gripe with phone game reps. Unless they have another series to fall back on, like Saber from Fate, phone games are temporary, unlike how, effectively timeless literally everyone else in the roster is.

I'd assume videogame preservation peeps will make sure that even mobile games are available to play in some form after the servers go down. Though honestly, who'd want to play a gacha on unofficial servers? I don't think there's a fanbase so dedicated that they'd be playing ten years after the fact with a reduced community, no new content, and no ability to pay for stuff.

 

[Shroob]

I'd assume videogame preservation peeps will make sure that even mobile games are available to play in some form after the servers go down. Though honestly, who'd want to play a gacha on unofficial servers? I don't think there's a fanbase so dedicated that they'd be playing ten years after the fact with a reduced community, no new content, and no ability to pay for stuff.

You'd think that, but those kinda games come out and die all the time, with 0 preservation.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

This is gonna be an extremely hot take


But despite being a dirty phone game player, I can't really say I'd be down for wanting a character like that in Smash.



Not because "Phone bad" or any dumb reason like that, it's more that...


If I want to say, play a game Terry's in, I can do that via simply buying a game of his on "an" E-shop, picking up the newest King of Fighters, find a working NEO-GEO and pay through the nose for it, or emulate it like a dirty cheater.

If I want to play a Banjo game, same applies there.


Same applies for pretty much anyone on the roster, really.


Now let's take Euden from Dragalia Lost. In ten or so years, when Dragalia Lost's servers are down... there's frankly going to be no way to play that game, period. Games like this, once they're gone, they're gone for good. Once the servers die, outside of fan re-creations, they're gone forever.


It's a bit of an odd hot take, but that's kinda my gripe with phone game reps. Unless they have another series to fall back on, like Saber from Fate, phone games are temporary, unlike how, effectively timeless literally everyone else in the roster is.

At the same time, having a mobile series like Euden in Smash may be the jumping point they need for more permanent forms of gaming.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Well, for one, he's a boss, not a Spirit. Therefore, if you fight him at the end of a Classic Mode, you have no Spirits to cheese him with.
But then again, Spirits are far less fair than the actual bosses anyways, so...

Kaptain K. Rool doesn't need spirits to cheese with him. He's just more so tough.

The Boss is another story. I've found it hard even with Great Autoheal. It felt like the only option was Madame Butterfly at that point. Though I also had a ton of Skills too that helped, so that's probably more of why I dominated that fight. And even then, I had to work for it. Some battles are just stupidly unfair unless you have the perfect Spirit for it, which also makes it not all that good of design. Making it easier makes sense, but not having a specific Spirit can make a lot of battles borderline unbeatable(and sometimes literally impossible to win at that point).

 

[SharkLord]

Also, haven't really said it yet, but now that Spirits are no longer a barrier...

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Sakurai, if you're out there listening to us somewhere, please.

I would hope so, but I'm iffy on their chances because of the Spirit Event; If they were coming anytime layer, why put the Spirits in then when they're coming a couple months later? Still, I really wish it were true...

 

[Cutie Gwen]

This is gonna be an extremely hot take


But despite being a dirty phone game player, I can't really say I'd be down for wanting a character like that in Smash.



Not because "Phone bad" or any dumb reason like that, it's more that...


If I want to say, play a game Terry's in, I can do that via simply buying a game of his on "an" E-shop, picking up the newest King of Fighters, find a working NEO-GEO and pay through the nose for it, or emulate it like a dirty cheater.

If I want to play a Banjo game, same applies there.


Same applies for pretty much anyone on the roster, really.


Now let's take Euden from Dragalia Lost. In ten or so years, when Dragalia Lost's servers are down... there's frankly going to be no way to play that game, period. Games like this, once they're gone, they're gone for good. Once the servers die, outside of fan re-creations, they're gone forever.


It's a bit of an odd hot take, but that's kinda my gripe with phone game reps. Unless they have another series to fall back on, like Saber from Fate, phone games are temporary, unlike how, effectively timeless literally everyone else in the roster is.

What do you mean Euden's already in Smash

 

[CosmicQuark]

- Guh-huh! Bree. They just clash so much with the rest of the DLC you can't help but laugh. Great music (especially Kirkhope's new Spiral Mountain remix), a fun design even if the moveset is pretty basic, and it's cool to see all these characters with updated models. My one complaint is that the non-BF/Omega version of the stage gives me minor motion sickness with the spinning.

I hear this, and it is a shame how the spin negatively affects so many people to the point of being unplayable. One thing to note for those who would like to play it without the spin—BF and omega forms do spin regardless of hazard toggle (as the spin doesn’t affect the layout), but the regular stage with hazards off doesn’t spin.

Though I would have preferred it to be in front of Grunty’s Lair rather than Banjo’s house (and would get rid of that ledge a lot of people hate). I don’t get motion sickness myself, so I love how the stage transforms into so many different layouts simply by spinning (rather than teleporting like the Monastery), and I get more disoriented on stages that turn perpendicular to the ground, like New Donk City.

I can’t complain too much myself, though, because so much love was put into that stage, one of the more elaborate ones, and it becomes more apparent when viewing in VR (the only FP1 stage that does so, interestingly enough).

 

[Kokiden]

So how was Min Min for y'all? Is she as you expected?

She's annoying to go against online. The lag doesn't help, and I'm stuck using joy cons so that's not helping either.

I have no attachment or familiarity with the character, so I'm indifferent for the most part.

Using Bayo against her mostly, and she's.. just ok against Min Min?

 

[Hinata]

I would hope so, but I'm iffy on their chances because of the Spirit Event; If they were coming anytime layer, why put the Spirits in then when they're coming a couple months later? Still, I really wish it were true...

Well, to be fair, the Astral Chain Spirit event really didn't cover a lot of the game at all, so there's still plenty of potential for a bigger Spirit board later. It had the two main protags (and they could just pull a Min Min situation with those), and a couple side characters, one of whom was a boss fight.

They could just add Kyle and Lappy's spirits to the DLC Spirit board like they did with the pre-existing ARMS Spirits on Min Min's, and then fill up a couple more slots with other characters.

Maximillian Howard, Jena Anderson, Yoseph Calvert, Hal Clark, the Legions on their own (the current Astral Chain spirits feature the Sword and Arrow Legions as part of the artwork for the protags), and some of the other Neuron officers. Problem solved.

 

[ZelDan]

I guess I could see how a mobile only game or character could be an issue when you consider servers shutting down. But I don't think a mobile game or mobile appearance from a character should necessarily not count.

*looks at Dixie Kong in Mario kart tour*