Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Opossum]

I don't think it would be that big of a deal. If RoboCop was able to join Mortal Kombat 11 the day after George Floyd's tragic death and there was little response to his inclusion, I don't see Byte and Barq causing a stir. Most people recognize that police archetypes in media and the promotion of police brutality are two different things.

I mean in fairness RoboCop had been announced a good deal prior to that, right? That may have tempered things.

 

[Perkilator]

Uh.... did this tweet ever catch and talk yesterday?

https://twitter.com/Sora_Sakuraii/status/1274035003534475264?s=20

That's a parody account.

 

[Ura]

If we excluded characters on the basis that their fanbase has "toxic" members, then Ultimate would have a grand total of zero characters, because every fanbase is gonna have at least one person who takes things too far.

INB4 Ver 8.0.0 removes every single character for having a toxic fan.

*no one is here meme intensifies*

 

[SpectreJordan]

4chan would explode in a ruckus laughter
Smash fans would probably be confused, a bit upset that fan rules are apparently still alive


Those 2 things mainly.

If they don’t choose Spring-Man, who’s the mascot of the game, or Min-Min/Twintelle/Ribbon Girl, who are the most popular characters alongside Springy, then those “fan rules” are prooooobably real.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

If we excluded characters on the basis that their fanbase has "toxic" members, then Ultimate would have a grand total of zero characters, because every fanbase is gonna have at least one person who takes things too far.

That's his point, he's arguing that we SHOULDN'T deny communities arbitrarily deemed as toxic by a few individuals or whatnot

I don't think it would be that big of a deal. If RoboCop was able to join Mortal Kombat 11 the day after George Floyd's tragic death and there was little response to his inclusion, I don't see Byte and Barq causing a stir. Most people recognize that police archetypes in media and the promotion of police brutality are two different things.

Robocop was already revealed quite a while ago as already mentioned

Dude.

Its a video game. That is 100% fiction. Are we supposed to just scrub EVERY single fictional police officer represented in a somewhat positive light in media now? Even though fictional archetypes =/= real life situations?

If it really was Byte and Barq, I guarantee that the majority of paying customers wouldn’t give two craps apart from a vocal Twitter minority.

Kid.

Fiction INFLUENCES reality. I already said it would simply be incredibly unfortunate but you're acting like fiction has no influence when people started thinking the police were too soft and needed to be harsher shortly after Dirty Harry came out in theaters. I'm not even saying it should be canned and replaced or anything, so I don't understand why you're so worked up about "Doing something can be controversial at times"

 

[Cosmic77]

Yeah, I don't think Byte and Barq would cause a huge upset like people think they would. We're talking about a wind-up robot officer who attacks by punching people with his long arms made out of metal coils and his robot police dog companion who wears sunglasses, has a trampoline on his head, and has a Yoshi tongue that punches people.

They're based off of police officers...but that's pretty much it. They aren't realistic police officers in the slightest.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

I guess Lola Pop is lucky this isn't coming out during the 2016 Clown Sightings or the IT movie remakes.

 

[MooMew64]

What are people feelin' Mii Costume wise?

I'm thinkin' Hollow Knight.

 

[RileyXY1]

What are people feelin' Mii Costume wise?

I'm thinkin' Hollow Knight.

I'm thinking that some Smash 4 Mii Fighter costumes will come back, which would be a bummer for those who wanted Monster Hunter, Lloyd Irving, or Heihachi.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

What are people feelin' Mii Costume wise?

I'm thinkin' Hollow Knight.

Pls... Ori... with a song... I NEED IT

 

[Cutie Gwen]

What are people feelin' Mii Costume wise?

I'm thinkin' Hollow Knight.

Madeline and Badeline or Sakurai's failed me

 

[MooMew64]

I'm thinking that some Smash 4 Mii Fighter costumes will come back, which would be a bummer for those who wanted Monster Hunter, Lloyd Irving, or Heihachi.

Oh yeah, I'm definitely thinking those Smash 4 costumes are coming at some point.

One specific Smash 4 costume in particular would, ah, make things...interesting, for lack of a better word, especially if they make it a premium costume with a song.

Madeline and Badeline or Sakurai's failed me

Oooooh shoot, I didn't even consider Madeline, that would make a lot of sense.

 

[Perkilator]

What are people feelin' Mii Costume wise?

I'm thinkin' Hollow Knight.

Inb4 we get a Master Chief costume with the Halo theme.

 

[RileyXY1]

Oh yeah, I'm definitely thinking those Smash 4 costumes are coming at some point.

One specific Smash 4 costume in particular would, ah, make things...interesting, for lack of a better word, especially if they make it a premium costume with a song.

Yeah. So far, Sega got all their costumes back, Capcom has all theirs barring the Monster Hunter related costumes, and NB and SE don't have any of their costumes back. And, I also think that only Indie characters will be premium costumes.

 

[Jomosensual]

What are people feelin' Mii Costume wise?

I'm thinkin' Hollow Knight.

Im guessing we wont get one since it seems like they're going every other one. If we get one though HK seems like the choice

 

[RileyXY1]

Im guessing we wont get one since it seems like they're going every other one. If we get one though HK seems like the choice

We usually get premium costumes when they do misc. focused Mii Costume packs (which happened with Banjo and Byleth).

 

[Rie Sonomura]

You think we’ll get any premium Mii costumes with a song that aren’t indies and/or gunners?

 

[Evil Trapezium]

What are people feelin' Mii Costume wise?

I'm thinkin' Hollow Knight.

A Yooka and Laylee Mii costume. A Laylee doll sits on top of a Yooka head mask.

 

[Teeb147]

You think we’ll get any premium Mii costumes with a song that aren’t indies and/or gunners?

Hopefully not more gunners yeah XD
Someone mentioned hollow knight, so that could give swordfighter finally. Or maybe Premium Geno costume comes and we get another gunner XD
Was hollow knight popular when they were still taking feedback from fans?

 

[Droodle]

You think we’ll get any premium Mii costumes with a song that aren’t indies and/or gunners?

Probably Hollow Knight (Swordfighter), and Ori (can be any 3)

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Hopefully not more gunners yeah XD
Someone mentioned hollow knight, so that could give swordfighter finally. Or maybe Premium Geno costume comes and we get another gunner XD
Was hollow knight popular when they were still taking feedback from fans?

If we HAVE to get another premium Mii costume that’s both a gunner and indie I hope it’s Gunvolt (or Copen from Luminous Avenger iX)

Probably Hollow Knight (Swordfighter), and Ori (can be any 3)

Ori fits best as a Brawler imo

I’d also like Monokuma (Danganronpa) as a non-Indie Brawler with an original DR medley

 

[Cosmic77]

A few costumes based off of the ARMS characters who didn't get in would be nice.

It's not the same as a real playable character, but it's still something.

 

[SKX31]

Shrek Superslam isn't even the same type of game though. It's not a Smash clone; it's a Power Stone clone.


Nah the LESS toxicity in the community, the better. And the needless gatekeeping against those who want Assists to be playable is incredibly toxic.

Had actually forgotten about Power Stone, yeah that's true. But still, Power Stone is also a platform fighter variant. and as such I still count Super Slam as a platform fighter for a couple major reasons:

Irrefutable proof that Super Slam = platform fighter.

A part of me wonders what Nintendo's gameplan for the rest of the DLC is. I want to believe they'll at least mention soon here that info on FP7 is coming, but I just don't know what to think about them this year; they've been all over the place and seem to lack any semblance of a plan and schedule for their content ATM. Like, I'm honestly starting to think we're only gonna get two of the six this year at this point.

There's still time for some events and even another (mini-)Direct this year, even if Nintendo has been absolutely mercurial about their release strategies. Not just with Origami King - Clubhouse Games and Jump Rope Bunny were both also released with relatively little (none in the latter case) pre-release hype. Yes, Jump Rope was a little extra project and a direct result of devs staying home, but it still fits. There's still room for three fighters (even if that seems less likely by the day) - for example, FP7 released at September, FP8 during December.

TBF, there is a chance / risk that two FP2 fighters will be released during 2020, but it's not a guarantee yet.

 

[3BitSaurus]

I see people talking indie Mii costumes. But I see no one talking about Crypt of the Necrodancer.

Ngl, it would be really cool if you take into account that it crossed over with one of Nintendo's biggest franchises.

 

[RileyXY1]

Many of the Smash 4 Mii Fighter costumes would piss someone off if they were brought back, considering that the list includes Monster Hunter, Lloyd Irving, Heihachi, and of course Geno.

 

[Megadoomer]

Many of the Smash 4 Mii Fighter costumes would piss someone off if they were brought back, considering that the list includes Monster Hunter, Lloyd Irving, Heihachi, and of course Geno.

The Monster Hunter ones are just armour, aren't they? I'm not overly familiar with Monster Hunter, but I've read that a big part of the game is crafting armour from the monsters that you beat, so it seems like there would be other options beyond the two that were Smash 4 DLC.

I'm not sure about all of the ones that didn't make it back, but looking through the list, the ones that stick out are...

-Chocobo Hat
-Geno
-Heihachi
-Lloyd Irving
-Gilgamesh (Tower of Druaga)
-Rathalos Armour
-Blademaster Armour

I'm not sure if there are any other missing Capcom Mii costumes.

I figure that at least two of the three Namco-Bandai Mii costumes are going to return - my guess is that one of those two (Lloyd or Heihachi) is going to get promoted to playable status, while the other one (and Gilgamesh) are going to be brought back as Mii costumes alongside them. Then again, I also figured that we'd have another Namco-Bandai character by now, and that hasn't happened yet.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Only less then 48 hours away. Looking forward to what character could be speculated next once the ARMS character is revealed.

 

[RileyXY1]

The Monster Hunter ones are just armour, aren't they? I'm not overly familiar with Monster Hunter, but I've read that a big part of the game is crafting armour from the monsters that you beat, so it seems like there would be other options beyond the two that were Smash 4 DLC.

I'm not sure about all of the ones that didn't make it back, but looking through the list, the ones that stick out are...

-Chocobo Hat
-Geno
-Heihachi
-Lloyd Irving
-Gilgamesh (Tower of Druaga)
-Rathalos Armour
-Blademaster Armour

I'm not sure if there are any other missing Capcom Mii costumes.

I figure that at least two of the three Namco-Bandai Mii costumes are going to return - my guess is that one of those two (Lloyd or Heihachi) is going to get promoted to playable status, while the other one (and Gilgamesh) are going to be brought back as Mii costumes alongside them. Then again, I also figured that we'd have another Namco-Bandai character by now, and that hasn't happened yet.

They could also easily Mii Costume both of them. I think that NB might want to stick with just PAC-MAN.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

SourceGaming showed this off, over 4000 people entered

 

[zumaddy]

Man I'd love an actual Monster Hunter character over the player insert in an armour set, someone like the Ace Commander from MH4U would be great.

I'm also hoping Hollow Knight gets a costume, tried it for the first time recently and it's an awesome game which could easily be a music track + Mii Swordfighter costume.

 

[Speed Weed]

SourceGaming showed this off, over 4000 people entered

it's not shown in the video but whoever voted for amingo is a god

 

[Cutie Gwen]

it's not shown in the video but whoever voted for amingo is a god

Will you have a new cult follower

 

[Goombaic]

SourceGaming showed this off, over 4000 people entered

Results aren't quite what I expected from a pre-ARMS poll. Here's the full list of results for anyone that's interested.

 

[Speed Weed]

wait what the **** someone voted for bernie sanders

 

[DarthEnderX]

I dont see how Springman automatically means Assist Trophies are free but more power to yall that think that

You don't see how an Assist Trophy becoming playable means that Assist Trophies can become playable?

 

[RileyXY1]

You don't see how an Assist Trophy becoming playable means that Assist Trophies can become playable?

Yeah. Once the floodgates are open, they will never close again.

 

[Souless_shadow]

wait what the **** someone voted for bernie sanders

Aw shucks you caught me

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Results aren't quite what I expected from a pre-ARMS poll. Here's the full list of results for anyone that's interested.

Layton, ammy, Phoenix and sora all being in the top 100 makes me happy

 

[RileyXY1]

The speculation scene will change forever if an assist trophy gets promoted.

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

The speculation scene will change forever if an assist trophy gets promoted.

One can hope.