Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Deleted member]

You want to know what's weird? For as big and important of a system as it was, the Nintendo DS only introduced one character to Smash, Lucario. Even the PS3 has more than that! And even then, if you really want to be that guy, there's a statue of him in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Red Rescue Team for the GBA. Meanwhile the 3DS has a whopping eight characters originating on it, nine if you include DQXI's Hero. So that begs the question. What characters can fill this horribly underrepresented yet completely arbitrary quota? Off the top of my head there's:

Professor Layton
The Chorus Kids
Matthew from Golden Sun DD (who would probably just be an alt of Isaac should he get in)
The Elite Beat Agents?

It's weird, because for as big of a system as it is, most of the new games really don't lend themselves to fighters. But I'm sure there's plenty of interesting ones if you dig deep enough.

This good boy right here:

 

[Dark Bagel]

Smash Fans: "The Fire Emblem roster must be fixed!
*cuts the fan favorites and keeps the unpopular/hated characters*
Smash Fans: "Perfect!"

And to answer your question, Ike has blue hair, a sword, and a down-b counter. Therefore he is literally Marth.

Real talk though, while Fire Emblem's roster could use improvements, simply cutting characters isn't the way to do it. Instead, more characters that show off the different strategies within the Fire Emblem series are the better way to go. They can replace some of the lesser liked characters (there's only so much space on the roster), but if we were to truly "fix" the roster, the key is variety, not less of everything.

It really is kinda funny with how ubiquitous mages and magical attacks are in the Fire Emblem series, it took us until Smash 4 to get a rep that actually uses it.

 

[Will]

Expect and to go.

Man, you don't know Fire Emblem that much, do you?

 

[GoodGrief741]

What? Where does this happen in Super Smash Bros Melee's main theme? This isn't japes right?

The first 25 seconds of Terranigma's main theme are pretty damn near identical to a section in Melee's theme, just sped up. Compare to the first 5 seconds of Melee's menu theme.

 

[Idon]

It really is kinda funny with how ubiquitous mages and magical attacks are in the Fire Emblem series, it took us until Smash 4 to get a rep that actually uses it.

Because there wasn't a mage who was ever in a perfect spot to get in as a smash character.

The closest thing we had was Micaiah, who could not have entered Brawl on account of being released a few months prior to Brawl's release date and sharing her protagonist role with Ike who was far more popular, and couldn't be included in Smash 4 on account of being superceded by 3 new Fire Emblem games, one of which being Awakening which had Robin and y'know "saved the franchise" and all that.

There's probably a maniac out there who wants like, Merric from FE1 or something crazy like that.

 

[Will]

I know I'm really really late to that conversation, but keeping Roy?

Is he our new Captain Falcon that was "changed" by being in Smash? I mean, I can kinda see it, but he was Corrin before Corrin. Why is he so essential?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

The only Fire Emblem characters I'd see staying areand

Maybetoo but I wouldn't expect it.

 

[Garteam]

I know I'm really really late to that conversation, but keeping Roy?

Is he our new Captain Falcon that was "changed" by being in Smash? I mean, I can kinda see it, but he was Corrin before Corrin. Why is he so essential?

is in the holy trinity of "This character really has no reason to be in Smash, but they're already here, popular, and fun to play so eh" with and .

 

[Perkilator]

There's probably a maniac out there who wants like, Merric from FE1 or something crazy like that.

Opossum would like a word with you.
Anyways, what Assist Trophies do you guys want to accompany the DLC characters, along with your most wanted? I made a thread asking this a while back. My picks are:

Joker: Jack Frost
Hero: Golem
Banjo: Mumbo Jumbo
Terry: Nakoruru
Byleth: Hanneman

Sora: Riku
Crash: N. Trance
Arle: Schezo
Jill Valentine: Chris
Axel Stone: Mr. X

 

[kirbsmash]

I know I'm really really late to that conversation, but keeping Roy?

Of course, he have to be in Smash because of his pinky bald head and sunglasses.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

idgaf about any of yall, I want all the FE characters to stay
each characer has their fans and ill be damned if you stay they should be cut just because you dont like them

 

[Garteam]

I'm just gonna cross-post what I said in the Byleth thread regarding Fire Emblem cuts awhile back:

Honestly, removing any Fire Emblem character is a lot tougher than you'd think:
- is the defacto face of the series and the one character everyone agrees cannot be removed
- was already removed once and builds off Marth's playstyle, but he's very popular in the context of Smash Bros and is too distinct to call an echo.
- is the second most popular character in the series and has a unique playstyle and moveset.
- is the most unique of the Fire Emblem characters thematically and represents the general idea of avatars in Fire Emblem
- and are both extremely easy to develop and have a large fanbase in both Fire Emblem and Smash, so it's kinda a waste to remove them
- is the most divisive of the roster, both in Smash and Fire Emblem, but still has a unique playstyle that isn't really seen anywhere else on the roster.

Add in , who also has a unique playstyle and best represents the actual gameplay of Fire Emblem, the equation gets even more complicated.

 

[RouffWestie]

We lost Wolf, Snake, Ivysaur and Squirtle, Young Link, Ice Climbers, and Pichu without a problem. We would find an excuse for any of the FE characters being cut in next game.

 

[kirbsmash]

We lost Wolf, Snake, Ivysaur and Squirtle, Young Link, Ice Climbers, and Pichu without a problem

Tell that to Lucas, people was UPSET that he wasn't in. Also people want Wolf and Snake. Some people missed the climbers.

 

[Cosmic77]

I would just cut the / duo and leave the rest. One is from a game that didn't even make it overseas, and the other is from a game that has two other characters. Plus, we already have a similar moveset in/. I'd rather cut a semi-clone and an Echo than someone completely unique.

So the cast would look like this:

 

[SKX31]

You know since we are talking about the idea of a Smash reboot, I do wonder what's gonna happen to fans of Characters like Waluigi, Geno, Shadow, Knukcles, Zero, etc. If we are getting to the point where the roster could be heavily downgraded and we start making big cuts, wouldn't there be focus on getting more New Characters from New Series to make the roster Much more appealing to new audiences, instead of just adding to an audience that will probably still buy the game due to their series still being represented. If we going to possibly be cutting characters like Cloud, those are audiences that are being lost for example.

That's why as a fan of Shadow I'm worried about the idea of a reboot, Even though I'm very interested in it at the same tme (if they reboot it like how MVC3 did)

I do feel like it's going to be a mixture of all three. To take another FGC example, Mortal Kombat 11's DLC list consists of (so far):

DLC Characters
Pre-Order

• Shao Kahn

Kombat Pack

• Shang Tsung
• Nightwolf
• The Terminator
• Sindel
• The Joker
• Spawn

Aftermath

• Fujin
• Sheeva
• RoboCop

That's 6 veterans and 4 second / third party (from Netherrealm / Warner Bros. perspective) newcomers. I'm choosing Mortal Kombat as an example since it's already had its "Ultimate" when it comes to roster size (Armageddon, 2006, which had 64 characters in total).

I do feel that Smash 6 onwards is going to go on a similar trajectory when it comes to DLC: A mixture of new characters from new series (like ARMS), returning veterans (like Lucas / Mewtwo) and new characters from more notable existing first party series (like Corrin / Byleth). Because it evidently works as a DLC model. In MK11's case it helps that Shang Tsung's a major character in the Aftermath story mode, so future Smash games could go with that.

Of course, that's the DLC model. I do believe that the characters you mentioned generally have to lean towards base game(s). With DLC there's additional pressure to make things "worth it" in a sense from a company's perspective. For example, SEGA might have an easier time with Shadow in base as opposed to DLC, where they might prefer Kiryu or Arle. Third party picks tend to lean towards "New Stuff" during DLC periods as the Mortal Kombat example shows.

 

[GoodGrief741]

idgaf about any of yall, I want all the FE characters to stay
each characer has their fans and ill be damned if you stay they should be cut just because you dont like them

Realistically speaking cuts are nigh-inevitable for the next Smash game, so if every character is someone's favorite, then someone's favorite will have to get cut. There's no other way around it. Best way to go about it is to try and determine which characters could be cut with the least amount of people possible missing them.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Opossum would like a word with you.
Anyways, what Assist Trophies do you guys want to accompany the DLC characters, along with your most wanted? I made a thread asking this a while back. My picks are:

Joker: Jack Frost
Hero: Golem
Banjo: Mumbo Jumbo
Terry: Nakoruru
Byleth: Hanneman

Sora: Riku
Crash: N. Trance
Arle: Schezo
Jill Valentine: Chris
Axel Stone: Mr. X

Joker: Futaba/Oracle
Hero: Jessica Albert
B-K: Gruntilda (also a boss like Rathalos)
Terry: Geese
Byleth: The Gatekeeper (functions like Mr. Resetti in Brawl)

and for most wanteds:
Neku: Sho Minamimoto
Octoling: bruh, literally Off the Hook. They actually function the same as Squid Sisters but with different animations and music
Elma: crap uhhhh.... Lin?
KOS-MOS: I... don't know. chaos? MOMO?
Min Min: ARMS already has an AT, Spring Man, but perhaps instead of an AT, have Hedlok as an equippable item? thinking outside the box here

 

[Garteam]

Opossum would like a word with you.
Anyways, what Assist Trophies do you guys want to accompany the DLC characters, along with your most wanted? I made a thread asking this a while back. My picks are:

Joker: Jack Frost
Hero: Golem
Banjo: Mumbo Jumbo
Terry: Nakoruru
Byleth: Hanneman

Sora: Riku
Crash: N. Trance
Arle: Schezo
Jill Valentine: Chris
Axel Stone: Mr. X

Persona: Makoto
Dragon Quest: Jessica Albert
Banjo-Kazooie: Mumbo Jumbo
Fatal Fury: Krauser
Fire Emblem: Three Houses: Lysithea

Crash: Tiny Tiger
Super Mario RPG: Mallow
Kirby (Bandana Waddle Dee): Francisca, Flamberge, Zan Partizanne
Okami: Waka
I honestly don't have a fifth most wanted, so I guess I'll put Master Mummy for ARMS

 

[Cap'n Jack]

This sounds like fun! I want to have a go using my wishlist characters!

Travis Touchdown (No More Heroes): Santa Destroy tour - It's a moving stage, taking you to every place in Santa Destroy, starting from Motel "NO MORE HEROES", then errr... maybe fly over to the school where Travis fought I really gotta play that game. I just want Travis because he's cool.

Axel Stone (Streets of Rage): Amusement Park - I just think fighting on a pirate ship to start out and then smash people into the arcades would be awesome. Then a little area where you smash people into the cave and the Vehelits (That monster with the stretchy neck) comes out to attack players. That would be cool!

Crono (Chrono Trigger): End of time - Can't think of a stage that would fit more than this one. It could probably transfer the players to different time periods like 1000 AD, 600 AD, 2300 AD, 65,000,000 BC, 12,000 BC and then the apocalypse age in 1999 AD where Lavos comes out of it's shell and erupts the world sending you back to the end of time. Then get to see characters from the respective timelines and see them ride the Epoch!

Klonoa (Klonoa): Vision 1 - Can't think of anything more Klonoa than a mountainous village, full of windmills and a mount Rushmore head looking over it. i would love to have the enemies walk around on the stage and if you footstool them you can pick them up and jump off of them like in the games.

Crash Bandicoot (Crash Bandicoot): N Sanity Beach - If it's not N sanity beach, I don't want to hear it! You'd have crates around the place that would hold items in them, TNT and Nitro crates around as well. Also have the stone rollers to avoid on the stage. Have cameos of Coco, the ride-able animals and all of Crash's enemies and you'd have a top quality stage.

Sgt. Cortez (TimeSplitters): Space Station - Not the most exciting stage but it's most iconic looking for the TimeSplitters series at least. You'd have Reaper Splitters teleporting onto the stage and throwing homing lightning bolts at the players. Then characters like Harry Tipper, Captain Ash, Jo-Beth Casey, Amy Chen and R-110 would jump out from the portal. Maybe they'd pose for the players and then jump back in.

One more for the road because I love Terranigma a lot.

Ark (Terranigma): Underworld/Overworld - I don't know how I would make this stage work but I need both Underworld and Overworld music because they are fantastic.

Funny enough, I’d be down Sgt Cortez

 

[Koopaul]

I think this conversation about cuts is cute. You guys are talking as if all they are going to do is merely downsize what we already have and not, you know, revamp everything. Wondering if a certain character going to be in the next Smash is like wondering if Tobey Macguire will be in the next Spider Man movie.

 

[Cosmic77]

I think this conversation about cuts is cute. You guys are talking as if all they are going to do is merely downsize what we already have and not, you know, revamp everything. Wondering if a certain character going to be in the next Smash is like wondering if Tobey Macguire will be in the next Spider Man movie.

Revamp what? Scrap dozens of characters and "start over"?

I don't know what the next Smash game will be like, but I doubt it'll be much different from any other sequel we've gotten.

 

[7NATOR]

I do feel like it's going to be a mixture of all three. To take another FGC example, Mortal Kombat 11's DLC list consists of (so far):

DLC Characters
Pre-Order

• Shao Kahn

Kombat Pack

• Shang Tsung
• Nightwolf
• The Terminator
• Sindel
• The Joker
• Spawn

Aftermath

• Fujin
• Sheeva
• RoboCop

That's 6 veterans and 4 second / third party (from Netherrealm / Warner Bros. perspective) newcomers. I'm choosing Mortal Kombat as an example since it's already had its "Ultimate" when it comes to roster size (Armageddon, 2006, which had 64 characters in total).

I do feel that Smash 6 onwards is going to go on a similar trajectory when it comes to DLC: A mixture of new characters from new series (like ARMS), returning veterans (like Lucas / Mewtwo) and new characters from more notable existing first party series (like Corrin / Byleth). Because it evidently works as a DLC model. In MK11's case it helps that Shang Tsung's a major character in the Aftermath story mode, so future Smash games could go with that.

Of course, that's the DLC model. I do believe that the characters you mentioned generally have to lean towards base game(s). With DLC there's additional pressure to make things "worth it" in a sense from a company's perspective. For example, SEGA might have an easier time with Shadow in base as opposed to DLC, where they might prefer Kiryu or Arle. Third party picks tend to lean towards "New Stuff" during DLC periods as the Mortal Kombat example shows.

I do agree i could see something like this for Smash 6. if especially if Smash 6 has a Gameplay revamp, I could see veterans being added as DLC along with the new characters Since lke how Mortal Kombat likes to revamp their veteran characters alot, could see the same thing happen here

Though I think how the base game works is gonna determine how the DLC is, because if the base game doesn't do too hot then the DLC suffers for it. With Mortal Kombat, While they have added in new characters, especially with MKX, I say they've been relying more on veterans and how they fit within the revamped gameplay of the Reboot trilogy. MK9 and MK11 Really relied on veteran characters, and they do a good job of switching them out

I don't know if Smash could get away from that so easily due to the nature of Smash being a Crossover Fighter, and how people think Ultimate's gameplay is well, Ultimate (along with Melee). Gameplay Revamps might not work as well for getting people to get Smash 6 like it would for the Mortal Kombat games, so the character roster, if Downgraded in number, needs to make it up in quality. That's why i think Smash might be more comparable to MVC3 and UMVC3 over Mortal Kombat. The MK way of doing DLC could work for Smash, but i do wonder what they would do with Base game.

I think in this scenario i could see Characters like Kiryu and Arle being Base and characters like Shadow being DLC perhaps, pretty much an inverse of what you said. though with DLC they might still want to promote new series so i don't know

 

[snowgolem]

I hate when people propose FE cuts and their priority is to cut the fan favorites over the more unique characters, that's some functions vs. functions **** right there. They're popular characters, if you cut them people will demand them back. Instead of cutting them, make them unique.

And how did we get to the point where Ike isn't unique?

Should’ve said that differently. Ike is unique, but not as unique. And the only fan favorite I chose to get rid of was Chrom? And maybe Ike. I don’t know a single person who has Lucina as a favorite. Most people I know hate her inclusion. And I prioritize the more unique ones because more movesets with representation is better than a bunch of clones to represent one series. That’s the whole reason people are angry.

 

[Deleted member]

Opossum would like a word with you.
Anyways, what Assist Trophies do you guys want to accompany the DLC characters, along with your most wanted? I made a thread asking this a while back. My picks are:

Joker: Jack Frost
Hero: Golem
Banjo: Mumbo Jumbo
Terry: Nakoruru
Byleth: Hanneman

Sora: Riku
Crash: N. Trance
Arle: Schezo
Jill Valentine: Chris
Axel Stone: Mr. X

First Pass:
Joker: Futaba w/ Necronomicon
Hero: Great Sabercat
Banjo & Kazooie: Mumbo Jumbo
Terry: Geese Howard
Byleth: Edelgard

Arms Rep: If it’s Springman, then maybe replace his AT with Springtron( because of similar proportions ) or Min Min( popular character but isn’t the mascot ).

Most Wanted:
Bandana Waddle Dee: Adeleine

 

[Evil Trapezium]

You want to know what's weird? For as big and important of a system as it was, the Nintendo DS only introduced one character to Smash, Lucario. Even the PS3 has more than that! And even then, if you really want to be that guy, there's a statue of him in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Red Rescue Team for the GBA. Meanwhile the 3DS has a whopping eight characters originating on it, nine if you include DQXI's Hero. So that begs the question. What characters can fill this horribly underrepresented yet completely arbitrary quota? Off the top of my head there's:

Professor Layton
The Chorus Kids
Matthew from Golden Sun DD (who would probably just be an alt of Isaac should he get in)
The Elite Beat Agents?

It's weird, because for as big of a system as it is, most of the new games really don't lend themselves to fighters. But I'm sure there's plenty of interesting ones if you dig deep enough.

The only character I'd really want to see from the DS era is Stocke from Radiant Historia and that's only because I watched HCBailly play the game. I honestly don't think the DS has many notable characters that could be used for Super Smash Bros.

Ooh! What if a wormhole sucked the combatants into 1999 AD on the last minute or stock of battle? The world could progressively fall apart until the minute is up, making the stage more and more dangerous. You hear Lavos's primal roar as the match ends. That would be so cool, and set the apocalypse apart from the other eras.

I like this idea. It'd work like GB dream land where the power starts turning off or the Mushroom Kingdom 1 and 2 stages where the music gets faster.

Opossum would like a word with you.
Anyways, what Assist Trophies do you guys want to accompany the DLC characters, along with your most wanted? I made a thread asking this a while back. My picks are:

Joker: Jack Frost
Hero: Golem
Banjo: Mumbo Jumbo
Terry: Nakoruru
Byleth: Hanneman

Sora: Riku
Crash: N. Trance
Arle: Schezo
Jill Valentine: Chris
Axel Stone: Mr. X

Joker: Ryuji Sakamoto - He'd run around the stage, whacking people with a bat and shooting people with his shotgun.
Hero: Yangus - He uses an axe. I just picked him because he looks funny.
Banjo & Kazooie: Mumbo Jumbo - No one else could fill the assist trophy role as well as Mumbo He'd transform fighters into different animals who would all be useless so that the fighter who summoned would have a massive advantage.
Terry Bogard: Simea - Got to have Crystalis content somewhere! He'd charge up his blade and shoot it out at his opponents.
Byleth: All three house leaders maybe? - You'd summon the assist trophy and one of the three house leaders pops out and that's it.

Travis Touchdown: Henry - He'd go around slashing opponents with his beam sabre and that's it.
Axel Stone: Galsia - Kind of like Klaptrap where he'd just walk around and punch people. He'd be pretty easy to beat.
Crono: Robo - He'd beat people with rocket punch and laser beams and that's cool.
Klonoa: Joka - I don't know... He's called Joka and it'd be funny to confuse people with that.
Crash: Dingodile - He'd use his flamethrower to burn people up and laugh maniacally while doing it. Perfect Assist Trophy.
Sgt. Cortez: Monkey - It's a monkey!

 

[Koopaul]

Revamp what? Scrap dozens of characters and "start over"?

I don't know what the next Smash game will be like, but I doubt it'll be much different from any other sequel we've gotten.

Because a direct sequel to Ulitmate that just has less characters and stages is going to seem lame and pointless. Ultimate is Avengers Endgame. After this nothing will be the same.

But yeah this is a topic for another thread.

 

[ARandomFruit]

I made a Final Fantasy list with 5 for the Fire Emblem characters that aren't echos.
1. Cloud
2. Terra
3. Vivi
4. Noctis
5. Gilgamesh
Then I decided that I'd just make 8 cause everyone else was doing it too.
6. Moogle + Chocobo
7. Warrior of Light
8. Kefka

Anyways, what Assist Trophies do you guys want to accompany the DLC characters, along with your most wanted?

Persona: Crow
Dragon Quest: Hendrik
Banjo and Kazzoie: Gruntilda
King of Fighters: Iori
Fire Emblem: Yuri

for my top 6
Touhou: Marisa
Okami: Susano
Digimon: Gabumon
Disgaea: Killia
Guilty Gear: Faust (For no reason besides I main him in GG)
The World Ends With You: Joshua

 

[Zem-raj]

How about talking about what stages we’d like to see with our most wanted? I’ll go:

Sora: Station of Awakening
Crash: N. Sanity Beach
Adeleine & Ribbon: Ripple Star
Min Min: Ramen Bowl
Axel Stone: Wood Oak City Slums
Euden: The Halidom

Bandana Waddle Dee: Castle Village
Kirby characters appear in the background: Coo, Rick, Kine, Gooey, Adeleine, Ribbon, Taranza, Magolor (Shoppe), Suzie, and the Three Mage-Sisters.
As a newly added bonus, in the background you can see the Megaton Punch arena (a reference to Bandana Waddle Dee's debut).

Lloyd Irving: Aselia
World tour of locations: Iselia, Martel Temple, Palmacosta, Tower of Salvation, Meltokio, Altamira.
Tales of Symphonia characters appear in the background for the following locations:
Iselia: Genis Sage, Colette Brunel, Raine Sage.
Tower of Salvation: Kratos Aurion, Mythos Yygdrassil.
Meltokio: Zelos Wilder, Sheena Fujibayashi,
Altamira: Regal Bryant, Presea Combatir.

Shantae: Scuttle Town
Includes the Lighthouse, Risky Boot's ship (near Lighthouse) and the path connected.
Shantae characters appear in the background: Risky Boots (Lighthouse and ship area), Bolo, Sky (and Wrench), Rottytops (Lighthouse/ship area), Uncle Mimic, Squid Baron (Lighthouse area).

Rayman: The Glade of Dreams
Rayman characters appear in the background: Globox, Barbara, Betilla (Great Fairy), Polokus (Bubble Dreamer), Murfy, Mr. Dark, The Magician, Moskito.

Min Min: Ramen Bowl
On occasions, the stage will rotate (like Spiral Mountain). At a certain point, fighters can interact with the gong. Ringing the gong may give different surprises: a free item, food item. From time to time, bombs roll right to the bottom of the stage, acting as stage hazards.

Dixie Kong: Volcano Dome.
Uh... it sure beats the usual jungle stages, I guess...? Lord Fredrik is on his throne in the background, and on occasions he will fire ice balls at the stage and sometimes ice dragons, both of these will act as stage hazards. I would've suggested having him rise the stage like geysers and have him ON the stage, like in Tropical Freeze, but that might be a bit too much. Both sides of the stage has lava, so that's also a hazard (so I don't think we need the icy floor included).

 

[pupNapoleon]

Frankly, it's unproductive discussion that has no real place in Ultimate's discourse, let alone in a thread speculating about the newcomers the game might get. It's always felt telling that after Ultimate achieves a near dream like reality of making such discussions irrelevant and including all characters specifically for the fans, that some people's first inclination towards the game is start talking about how methodically they'd take a scalpel to the game's roster as well.

I'm fascinated. What in this thread is productive?

 

[3BitSaurus]

It really is kinda funny with how ubiquitous mages and magical attacks are in the Fire Emblem series, it took us until Smash 4 to get a rep that actually uses it.

I mean, it took us until Ultimate to get the full weapon triangle in, so...

 

[Perkilator]

I'm fascinated. What in this thread is productive?

Well…anything that isn’t just constant bickering and whining. Oh, and staying on-topic, of course.

 

[pupNapoleon]

Well…anything that isn’t just constant bickering and whining. Oh, and staying on-topic, of course.

What do we produce with that productive conversation?

This thread is rarely and strictly on exact point. Like most threads.
It's really just that the users in hand don't like the close-enough-to-on-point topics, and so they then ... complain about it not being enjoyed.
Kind of like I'm doing now.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

This good boy right here:

Nintendogs get all of my yes. Make it a cross between Duck Hunt and Villager where the puppy is just going about its day, and a 4th wall owner's interactions with it are the puppy's attacks.

It really is kinda funny with how ubiquitous mages and magical attacks are in the Fire Emblem series, it took us until Smash 4 to get a rep that actually uses it.

Same with cavelry, though horses may not be that easy to implement without the character being too tall (Fire Emblem's cast is already tall so adding a horse might be too much).

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Nintendogs get all of my yes. Make it a cross between Duck Hunt and Villager where the puppy is just going about its day, and a 4th wall owner's interactions with it are the puppy's attacks.


Same with cavelry, though horses may not be that easy to implement without the character being too tall (Fire Emblem's cast is already tall so adding a horse might be too much).

Clearly this means Sigurd from FE4 was the ARMS character all along. His gimmick is having a horse and taking extra damage from fire attacks

 

[Spongeboob]

I wouldn't cut any of FE characters; rather, I'd focus on differentiating the more clone-ish movesets (Lucina and Chrom). But if I had to choose one to cut,

Spoiler: then it would be...

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Clearly this means Sigurd from FE4 was the ARMS character all along. His gimmick is having a horse and taking extra damage from fire attacks

*pictures horse with ARMS*
lol
*realizes what you're referencing*
Oh...

I mean, it took us until Ultimate to get the full weapon triangle in, so...

Ironically through a character from a game that doesn't use it.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

I have no idea how this would even work, but something Pokemon Ranger-related could be neat (maybe play as a ranger and attack with a mix of your Capture Styler and assist Pokemon)

I like the idea of a Pokemon ranger where all his special moves involve him summoning different Pokemon to help him with attacks, that way we get a ton more Pokemon on the battlefield.

 

[MrJudd]

How about talking about what stages we’d like to see with our most wanted? I’ll go:

Sora: Station of Awakening
Crash: N. Sanity Beach
Adeleine & Ribbon: Ripple Star
Min Min: Ramen Bowl
Axel Stone: Wood Oak City Slums
Euden: The Halidom

ARMS (4 for the price of one): Dr. Coyle, Lola Pop or Spring Man's stage.
Geno: Forest Maze, Moleville (ft Booster's Tower), Star Hill or Nimbus Land
Rex and Pyra: Uraya, Leftherian Archipelago or Alrest as a Traveling Stage
Elma: Noctilum or Sylvalum
Lyoid Irving: Tower of Salvation
Phoenix Wright: Courtroom (no bombing or Smash gets a rating increase)
Solaire of Astoria: Majula
Master Chief: "Blood Gulch"

 

[Opossum]

Realistically I can't see Fire Emblem dipping below five characters at the very least in the next Smash. Six if we get a newcomer. Not really sorry if that upsets you tbh.