Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Rie Sonomura]

quick question

have any newcomer trailers had explicitly vocal themes in them? asking for... research purposes

yes its cause i have an idea for an Elma trailer but it uses Uncontrollable and I worry if the lyrics would drown out gameplay/voice acting... if not ill go for the instrumental version

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Has there been any leaks lately? Even obvious fakes will do, I could use a larf.

Sadly no. I could tell you a joke about bananas if you want.

Not sure how appealing it would be though...

 

[Michael the Spikester]

As of current I think Crash and Steve are the most likely 3rd parties to be added.

 

[osby]

quick question

have any newcomer trailers had explicitly vocal themes in them? asking for... research purposes

yes its cause i have an idea for an Elma trailer but it uses Uncontrollable and I worry if the lyrics would drown out gameplay/voice acting... if not ill go for the instrumental version

Joker's second trailer had vocal tracks, not sure if you count it.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

quick question

have any newcomer trailers had explicitly vocal themes in them? asking for... research purposes

yes its cause i have an idea for an Elma trailer but it uses Uncontrollable and I worry if the lyrics would drown out gameplay/voice acting... if not ill go for the instrumental version

I think the only song with vocals that was used was Gangplank Galleon. Even then the rap part wasn't in it.

EDIT: That's not to say they couldn't use a vocal track. It would just depend on what you're going for.
EDIT EDIT: Never mind, forgot about Byleth. Everything else I said still applies though.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

quick question

have any newcomer trailers had explicitly vocal themes in them? asking for... research purposes

yes its cause i have an idea for an Elma trailer but it uses Uncontrollable and I worry if the lyrics would drown out gameplay/voice acting... if not ill go for the instrumental version

on top of Joker's second trailer like already mentioned, Byleth's used a snippet of the Three House Main Theme remix, vocals and all

 

[Deleted member]

How about talking about what stages we’d like to see with our most wanted? I’ll go:

Sora: Station of Awakening
Crash: N. Sanity Beach
Adeleine & Ribbon: Ripple Star
Min Min: Ramen Bowl
Axel Stone: Wood Oak City Slums
Euden: The Halidom

Bandana Waddle Dee: Dream Palace
Waluigi: Ether Waluigi Pinball or Mario Tennis
Tom Nook: Deserted Island
Blacephalon: Ultra Space
Ms. Pac-Man: Ms. Pac Maze
Chell: Aperture Science

 

[Flik]

I've been thinking about a posible FFVII Remake newcomer (doesn't matter if it's Sephiroth, Tifa or f'n Johnny) and how it would affect or be affected by Cloud; Would it get only the JP voice to match Cloud? Would Cloud get his new english VA to match the newcomer?

 

[chocolatejr9]

Has there been any leaks lately? Even obvious fakes will do, I could use a larf.

Here's an obviously fake one, if only so we can talk about someone(s) different. Note that it's just a link because there's a swear word.

https://twitter.com/2Blocko/status/1258533813556133889?s=20

 

[osby]

I've been thinking about a posible FFVII Remake newcomer (doesn't matter if it's Sephiroth, Tifa or f'n Johnny) and how it would affect or be affected by Cloud; Would it get only the JP voice to match Cloud? Would Cloud get his new english VA to match the newcomer?

I think it would depend on whether the new character's voice actor is from a union or not.

 

[Cosmic77]

Because Ultimate is the one game specifically where cuts aren't relevant to any discussion as all the Veterans came back from the get go, and thus cut discussion has no real place in the newcomer speculation thread about said complete roster Ultimate. There's any number of threads that discussion is more appropriate for that people have created just for that purpose.

It's also the two fold issue of: 1. Cut discussions always devolves at some point to someone using it as a platform to either voice their personal grievances with certain roster additions from years past or that one addition they absolutely can't get over (usually ends up being Plant or Corrin for example) or 2. To voice some personal perception of the roster that needs to be altered moving forward (Devaluing certain third parties or writing them off as "promotional reps" just to tie it back even further).

Frankly, it's unproductive discussion that has no real place in Ultimate's discourse, let alone in a thread speculating about the newcomers the game might get. It's always felt telling that after Ultimate achieves a near dream like reality of making such discussions irrelevant and including all characters specifically for the fans, that some people's first inclination towards the game is start talking about how methodically they'd take a scalpel to the game's roster as well.

You're lumping everyone who enjoys talking about cuts together. Believe it or not, some people genuinely find enjoyment in trying to decide who would get the highest priority in the next Smash game, and that can involve characters they like as well. However, because some people don't see that appeal, they're all too eager to end the conversation at once.

And yes, cuts are relevant to the thread's topic. If I'm looking at the content DQ got in Smash and asking others whether or not believe Hero will be cut in the next game, that topic would fit in with "DLC/newcomer speculation". I suppose you could argue veterans are off-topic, but compared to other irrelevant discussions that are allowed to slide by, I feel like that's teetering on hand-picking a topic that you don't like and banning it to another thread because it's something you don't want to see brought up.

 

[Mr. Robotto]

How about talking about what stages we’d like to see with our most wanted? I’ll go:

Sora: Station of Awakening
Crash: N. Sanity Beach
Adeleine & Ribbon: Ripple Star
Min Min: Ramen Bowl
Axel Stone: Wood Oak City Slums
Euden: The Halidom

Oh this is fun!
Phoenix Wright: Courtroom no.2
Sol Badguy: The Mayship
Kazuma Kiryu: Kamurocho
Beat: Shibuya Terminal
Rex: Mor Ardain
Geralt of Rivia: Kaer Morhen

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Bandana Waddle Dee: Dream Palace

Oooooooooh. Imagine if the stage took the name literally, and the...erm...Dream Rod? would activate, changing the stage into something related to one of the Dream Friends. Kind of like Kalos Pokémon League, but with Kirby characters!

 

[Michael the Spikester]

If Bandana Dee is to have an stage I imagine it being the stadium where you challenge him to the Megaton Punch which I also imagine being his Final Smash.

 

[Cap'n Jack]

Tom Nook: Resident Hall Plaza
Joanna Dark: Felicity (would technically also be a nod to Goldeneye)
Ms PAC-Man: PAC-Maze
Phoenix Wright: Courtroom
Jill Valentine: Spencer Mansion

 

[Perkilator]

quick question

have any newcomer trailers had explicitly vocal themes in them? asking for... research purposes

yes its cause i have an idea for an Elma trailer but it uses Uncontrollable and I worry if the lyrics would drown out gameplay/voice acting... if not ill go for the instrumental version

-Sonic’s Brawl and Smash 4 trailers
-The Masked Rebel (Joker’s second trailer)
-The Ashen Demon (Byleth’s trailer)

 

[CaptainAmerica]

How about talking about what stages we’d like to see with our most wanted? I’ll go:

Sora: Station of Awakening
Crash: N. Sanity Beach
Adeleine & Ribbon: Ripple Star
Min Min: Ramen Bowl
Axel Stone: Wood Oak City Slums
Euden: The Halidom

I've only got a few 'most wanted,' but here goes:

Dovahkiin: Bleak Falls Barrow or High Hrothgar. Just something with a day/night cycle so we can get a nice aurora at night.
Tails: Chemical Plant Zone

For Midna or Urbosa, there are a bunch of possible Zelda stages that don't necessarily relate to their games: the Lost Woods, Termina Clock Tower, Hyrule Castle (either Twilight or Breath of the Wild version), Sheikah Shrine or Divine Beast

Oh, and Ostrheinsburg for Nightmare

 

[Hadokeyblade]

How about talking about what stages we’d like to see with our most wanted? I’ll go:

Sora: Station of Awakening
Crash: N. Sanity Beach
Adeleine & Ribbon: Ripple Star
Min Min: Ramen Bowl
Axel Stone: Wood Oak City Slums
Euden: The Halidom

Sora: Traverse Town
Kiryu: Millenium Tower
Layton: Curious village
Sakura: imperial theater

 

[GoodGrief741]

Noctis because he is Square Enix's favorite crossover character as well as the most recent Final Fantasy protagonist.
Chocobo because it's the recurring mascot of the Final Fantasy series.
Black Mage to represent Classic Final Fantasy.
Zack because it's an obvious Echo Fighter for Cloud.
Zidane because (Disclaimer: I'm not a diehard Final Fantasy fan. Just casual. My buddy is a giant Final Fantasy nerd, and from what he tells me, ) 9 is the favorite after 7.
Sephiroth is the mandatory villain rep.
Tifa is the favorite female.
And Barret and Aerith are there as extras because FF7 is the favorite.

Yeah, 9 isn't the favorite after 7, that's 6 (hell, depending on who you ask, 6 is more beloved than 7).

And having four FF7 characters, as beloved as it is, with the other characters being generic mascots and the protagonist of a not-greatly received game is a good way to cause massive backlash. I won't downplay 7's iconicness and impact, but there's 14 other games in the series, to have 8 characters and completely lack variety in terms of games represented is a terrible idea.

Expect and to go. They’re gonna try and keep the more unique FE characters since people have a problem with them all being similar.

I hate when people propose FE cuts and their priority is to cut the fan favorites over the more unique characters, that's some functions vs. functions **** right there. They're popular characters, if you cut them people will demand them back. Instead of cutting them, make them unique.

And how did we get to the point where Ike isn't unique?

He's really old, I can't remember how old but he is old.

He also has a guy set to inherit the rights to his music, said guy is apparently a lot more laid back with what people can do with said music.

Makes me wonder though, why would a notorious asshat like Sugiyama appoint a less strict person as his heir? It's not like it's family, so I wonder why he didn't pick another asshat.

Sadly no. I could tell you a joke about bananas if you want.

Not sure how appealing it would be though...

I wanna hear the joke

 

[Gribbo]

You want to know what's weird? For as big and important of a system as it was, the Nintendo DS only introduced one character to Smash, Lucario. Even the PS3 has more than that! And even then, if you really want to be that guy, there's a statue of him in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Red Rescue Team for the GBA. Meanwhile the 3DS has a whopping eight characters originating on it, nine if you include DQXI's Hero. So that begs the question. What characters can fill this horribly underrepresented yet completely arbitrary quota? Off the top of my head there's:

Professor Layton
The Chorus Kids
Matthew from Golden Sun DD (who would probably just be an alt of Isaac should he get in)
The Elite Beat Agents?

It's weird, because for as big of a system as it is, most of the new games really don't lend themselves to fighters. But I'm sure there's plenty of interesting ones if you dig deep enough.

 

[SKX31]

How about talking about what stages we’d like to see with our most wanted? I’ll go:

Sora: Station of Awakening
Crash: N. Sanity Beach
Adeleine & Ribbon: Ripple Star
Min Min: Ramen Bowl
Axel Stone: Wood Oak City Slums
Euden: The Halidom

Master Chief: Battle of Mombasa or Installation 04
KOS-MOS: Woglinde
Tracer: Watchpoint: Gibraltar
Dante: Mallet Island
Ring Fit: Dragaux's Arena
Scorpion / Sub-Zero: The Courtyard

(Bonus: Lina - or any other Dota 2 character: Roshan's Pit. As an aside I would choose Baron Nashor's area as any LoL character's stage.)

 

[Guynamednelson]

And how did we get to the point where Ike isn't unique?

His moveset is more plain than those of . Shouldn't mean he's a clone though, since his side B is completely different, he swings his sword in different ways, his jabs include a punch and a kick...

 

[DarthEnderX]

And I love FFIX, it's my favorite, but what are your priorities if Zidane gets in over Terra, Cecil, or even Squall?

Zidane is a solid pick because he's a Thief, which is very unusual for a FF protag(who are usually big swordies).

Come on, you get 8 Final Fantasy slots and you waste them on Noctis, Chocobo, Zack and Black Mage?

To be fair, he shouldn't even get 8 slots, given that 3 of the FE slots are only echoes.

If I was picking 5 FF characters, I'd go with:
Cloud
Sephiroth
Black Mage
Terra
Zidane

If we get Mii Mages, I'd swap out BM for Yuna and let BM be a Mii costume.

Noctis because he is Square Enix's favorite crossover character as well as the most recent Final Fantasy protagonist.

Technically, that's Cloud.

Yeah, 9 isn't the favorite after 7, that's 6 (hell, depending on who you ask, 6 is more beloved than 7).

Correct.

 

[Gribbo]

Didn't mean to post this as a quote, whoops.

 

[Ben Holt]

Yeah, 9 isn't the favorite after 7, that's 6 (hell, depending on who you ask, 6 is more beloved than 7).

And having four FF7 characters, as beloved as it is, with the other characters being generic mascots and the protagonist of a not-greatly received game is a good way to cause massive backlash. I won't downplay 7's iconicness and impact, but there's 14 other games in the series, to have 8 characters and completely lack variety in terms of games represented is a terrible idea.

Ok. You got me. Replace Tifa with Terra and move Tifa to the bonus characters.
Would that be satisfactory? I ain't cutting Chokobo.

 

[DarthEnderX]

What else can we talk about though?

Nothing. But not having anything on-topic to talk about isn't an excuse to go off-topic. This isn't a general discussion thread.

It's OKAY for this thread to not have 50 new posts an hour when nothing is going on.

Why is there always someone who feels the need to shut down the conversation if it involves cuts?

Because that's not the topic of this thread?

There's a separate thread for Smash 6 roster cuts discussion. Go there if that's what you want to discuss.

 

[GoodGrief741]

Ok. You got me. Replace Tifa with Terra and move Tifa to the bonus characters.
Would that be satisfactory? I ain't cutting Chokobo.

I guess. It's not a bad selection, all your picks have merit, it's just that it could be more varied and representative of the franchise as a whole. DarthEnderX 's selection does imo a better job at it and with only 5 characters.

If I had 8 I'd go with:

Cloud
Sephiroth
Cecil
Bartz
Terra
Squall
Zidane
Tidus

Where you can get FF IV-X represented. If you want to, you can swap some (probably Bartz, of those I feel like he's first to go) out for someone like Black Mage to rep FFI or Noctis to rep FFXV.

 

[Jerry98]

How about talking about what stages we’d like to see with our most wanted? I’ll go:

Sora: Station of Awakening
Crash: N. Sanity Beach
Adeleine & Ribbon: Ripple Star
Min Min: Ramen Bowl
Axel Stone: Wood Oak City Slums
Euden: The Halidom

Professor Layton: St. Mystere because it's the most iconic, but every game has unique locations.
Big Daddy: Rapture, maybe a mix of places like Fort Frolic, Arcadia, Dyonisus Park, etc.
Hollow Knight: City of Tears
Grovyle: Temporal Tower or Wigglytuff Guild
Shantae: Scuttle Town
Marco/Tarma/Eri/Fio/Trevor/Nadia/Ralf/Clark: I don't know... maybe the area where Metal Slug 2 and Metal Slug X final battle takes place

 

[Evil Trapezium]

How about talking about what stages we’d like to see with our most wanted? I’ll go:

Sora: Station of Awakening
Crash: N. Sanity Beach
Adeleine & Ribbon: Ripple Star
Min Min: Ramen Bowl
Axel Stone: Wood Oak City Slums
Euden: The Halidom

This sounds like fun! I want to have a go using my wishlist characters!

Travis Touchdown (No More Heroes): Santa Destroy tour - It's a moving stage, taking you to every place in Santa Destroy, starting from Motel "NO MORE HEROES", then errr... maybe fly over to the school where Travis fought I really gotta play that game. I just want Travis because he's cool.

Axel Stone (Streets of Rage): Amusement Park - I just think fighting on a pirate ship to start out and then smash people into the arcades would be awesome. Then a little area where you smash people into the cave and the Vehelits (That monster with the stretchy neck) comes out to attack players. That would be cool!

Crono (Chrono Trigger): End of time - Can't think of a stage that would fit more than this one. It could probably transfer the players to different time periods like 1000 AD, 600 AD, 2300 AD, 65,000,000 BC, 12,000 BC and then the apocalypse age in 1999 AD where Lavos comes out of it's shell and erupts the world sending you back to the end of time. Then get to see characters from the respective timelines and see them ride the Epoch!

Klonoa (Klonoa): Vision 1 - Can't think of anything more Klonoa than a mountainous village, full of windmills and a mount Rushmore head looking over it. i would love to have the enemies walk around on the stage and if you footstool them you can pick them up and jump off of them like in the games.

Crash Bandicoot (Crash Bandicoot): N Sanity Beach - If it's not N sanity beach, I don't want to hear it! You'd have crates around the place that would hold items in them, TNT and Nitro crates around as well. Also have the stone rollers to avoid on the stage. Have cameos of Coco, the ride-able animals and all of Crash's enemies and you'd have a top quality stage.

Sgt. Cortez (TimeSplitters): Space Station - Not the most exciting stage but it's most iconic looking for the TimeSplitters series at least. You'd have Reaper Splitters teleporting onto the stage and throwing homing lightning bolts at the players. Then characters like Harry Tipper, Captain Ash, Jo-Beth Casey, Amy Chen and R-110 would jump out from the portal. Maybe they'd pose for the players and then jump back in.

One more for the road because I love Terranigma a lot.

Ark (Terranigma): Underworld/Overworld - I don't know how I would make this stage work but I need both Underworld and Overworld music because they are fantastic.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Crash Bandicoot (Crash Bandicoot): N Sanity Beach - If it's not N sanity beach, I don't want to hear it! You'd have crates around the place that would hold items in them, TNT and Nitro crates around as well. Also have the stone rollers to avoid on the stage. Have cameos of Coco, the ride-able animals and all of Crash's enemies and you'd have a top quality stage.

You don't think Wumpa Islands as an traveling stage wouldn't be better? Among the spots it'd land is N Sanity Beach.

 

[GoodGrief741]

One more for the road because I love Terranigma a lot.

Ark (Terranigma): Underworld/Overworld - I don't know how I would make this stage work but I need both Underworld and Overworld music because they are fantastic.

I second this, Terranigma's awesome and the music's gorgeous. So gorgeous that Melee cribbed its main theme from it.

 

[zeldasmash]

I say if Fire Emblem gets 8 characters, then so should the JRPG Juggernaut, Final Fantasy.

1. Cloud
2. Zack (Cloud ε)
3. Noctis
4. Black Mage
5. Chokobo
6. Zidane
7. Sephiroth
8. Tifa

Barret and Aerith are the runners up.

While we're at it, since FF7 got remade, let's have modern Triple A remakes of Dragon Quest 3 and Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon!

In my opinion if Final Fantasy got 8 reps:

1. Cloud - Yeah, Cloud is the guy people think off when people say Final Fantasy. Zack would be an echo.
2. Black Mage - One of the most recognizable characters of Final Fantasy. You could go with Vivi from Final Fantasy IX if you want.
3. Sephiroth - THE villain of Final Fantasy for a lot of people. Plus being one of the most recognizable villains in all of gaming does help. Anything to get One Winged Angel in Smash.
4. Cecil - Cool as hell design and would be sweet to see IV get some love.
5. Aerith - Would essentially act as the White Mage. That and Remake made her so much better not just as a character but a fighter as well.
6. Terra - One of the more recognizable characters from Final Fantasy VI. Plus she herself is a great character.
7. Auron - This guy oozes cool I don't think we have many characters that fit a samurai-esque role in Smash. He'd be great.
8. Tifa - One of the best female video game characters of all time and would be so far the only Final Fantasy character to focus on close range. Why not?

Honorable mentions go to Noctis, Barrett, Kefka, the White Mage, Chocobo, Squall, Zidane and to a less honorable extent, Lightning.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I say if Fire Emblem gets 8 characters, then so should the JRPG Juggernaut, Final Fantasy.

1. Cloud
2. Zack (Cloud ε)
3. Noctis
4. Black Mage
5. Chokobo
6. Zidane
7. Sephiroth
8. Tifa

Barret and Aerith are the runners up.

While we're at it, since FF7 got remade, let's have modern Triple A remakes of Dragon Quest 3 and Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon!

My take:
1. Cloud
2. Zack (Cloud echo)
3. Terra
4. Sephiroth
5. My man Jecht, he was a heckin beast in Dissidia 012
6. Cecil
7. Noctis
8. Lightning Yuna, also crazy fun in 012, summoning parts of Aeons to attack

Bonus: Aerith Assist Trophy

 

[ShrimpScampi]

You want to know what's weird? For as big and important of a system as it was, the Nintendo DS only introduced one character to Smash, Lucario. Even the PS3 has more than that! And even then, if you really want to be that guy, there's a statue of him in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Red Rescue Team for the GBA. Meanwhile the 3DS has a whopping eight characters originating on it, nine if you include DQXI's Hero. So that begs the question. What characters can fill this horribly underrepresented yet completely arbitrary quota? Off the top of my head there's:

Professor Layton
The Chorus Kids
Matthew from Golden Sun DD (who would probably just be an alt of Isaac should he get in)
The Elite Beat Agents?

It's weird, because for as big of a system as it is, most of the new games really don't lend themselves to fighters. But I'm sure there's plenty of interesting ones if you dig deep enough.

The DS has some neat games, it's weird that there aren't that many fighters from it. There are certainly some DS games that got non-fighter representation that pleasantly surprised me (it still baffles me how Kyle Hyde from Hotel Dusk got a spirit), but some other fighters from the DS that could work are:

Neku Sakuraba
Apollo Justice (Phoenix was technically introduced on the GBA, but Apollo Justice started on the DS, so we could have him as a Phoenix alt)
Maxwell (Scribblenauts)
Blaze the Cat
I have no idea how this would even work, but something Pokemon Ranger-related could be neat (maybe play as a ranger and attack with a mix of your Capture Styler and assist Pokemon)

 

[pupNapoleon]

Why is there always someone who feels the need to shut down the conversation if it involves cuts? Cuts are a normal part of Smash and any fighting game really. As long as people are being civil and not tearing each other apart, I don't see why anyone should step in and say, "HOLY CRAP!! THIS CONVERSATION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LOLLIPOPS AND GUMDROPS!! WE NEED TO STOP IMMEDIATELY!!"

If cuts bother you, just don't participate in the conversation. That's what I do whenever there's a topic I don't care about.

I think cuts are exciting.
It means that what remains is even stronger.
And I say this as someone who has yes, experienced my character being cut (see Pokemon Trainer avatar), and the joys of seeing him and Squirtle return.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

You don't think Wumpa Islands as an traveling stage wouldn't be better? Among the spots it'd land is N Sanity Beach.

Eh, I think N sanity beach is iconic enough to stand on it's own. It's the first location you think of when you think of Crash Bandicoot. The other locations like the river, temples, caves, factories, etc. don't have that Crash Bandicoot vibe that the Beach does.

I second this, Terranigma's awesome and the music's gorgeous. So gorgeous that Melee cribbed its main theme from it.

What? Where does this happen in Super Smash Bros Melee's main theme? This isn't japes right?

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I hate when people propose FE cuts and their priority is to cut the fan favorites over the more unique characters, that's some functions vs. functions **** right there. They're popular characters, if you cut them people will demand them back. Instead of cutting them, make them unique.

And how did we get to the point where Ike isn't unique?

Smash Fans: "The Fire Emblem roster must be fixed!
*cuts the fan favorites and keeps the unpopular/hated characters*
Smash Fans: "Perfect!"

And to answer your question, Ike has blue hair, a sword, and a down-b counter. Therefore he is literally Marth.

Real talk though, while Fire Emblem's roster could use improvements, simply cutting characters isn't the way to do it. Instead, more characters that show off the different strategies within the Fire Emblem series are the better way to go. They can replace some of the lesser liked characters (there's only so much space on the roster), but if we were to truly "fix" the roster, the key is variety, not less of everything.

 

[7NATOR]

You know since we are talking about the idea of a Smash reboot, I do wonder what's gonna happen to fans of Characters like Waluigi, Geno, Shadow, Knukcles, Zero, etc. If we are getting to the point where the roster could be heavily downgraded and we start making big cuts, wouldn't there be focus on getting more New Characters from New Series to make the roster Much more appealing to new audiences, instead of just adding to an audience that will probably still buy the game due to their series still being represented. If we going to possibly be cutting characters like Cloud, those are audiences that are being lost for example.

That's why as a fan of Shadow I'm worried about the idea of a reboot, Even though I'm very interested in it at the same tme (if they reboot it like how MVC3 did)

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Crono (Chrono Trigger): End of time - Can't think of a stage that would fit more than this one. It could probably transfer the players to different time periods like 1000 AD, 600 AD, 2300 AD, 65,000,000 BC, 12,000 BC and then the apocalypse age in 1999 AD where Lavos comes out of it's shell and erupts the world sending you back to the end of time. Then get to see characters from the respective timelines and see them ride the Epoch!

Ooh! What if a wormhole sucked the combatants into 1999 AD on the last minute or stock of battle? The world could progressively fall apart until the minute is up, making the stage more and more dangerous. You hear Lavos's primal roar as the match ends. That would be so cool, and set the apocalypse apart from the other eras.

 

[Idon]

Listen, if you want to cut FE characters, maybe don't cut the guy () who won the only official "fair" popularity poll with 2 versions of himself splitting the vote and singlehandedly remains the one of the only male characters that people whale for in gacha with a sea of hot anime women.

Meanwhile of course keeping 3 self-insert protagonists who are controversial within their own fanbase and are falling in popularity with each passing year.

And if you want to talk uniqueness while keeping Roy, I'm not even listening.