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Not to mention that F6 is extremely likely to be an assist trophy or at the very least a spirit, so yes, speculation of previous patterns for this season pass is starting from a point of “unlearn what you have learned.”
Was Vergeben's "Minecraft content" leak erased from the Space Time Continuum? For a couple months Steve was perhaps the most likely newcomer discounting Incineroar/Ken, and even after base game a lot of people still said he was more likely than Banjo, trust me, I was there.
I thought it was agreed upon that he mistook the "Minecraft content" for something else? Namely, the Cubivore spirit?
We didn't know that before the game came out. I'm talking purely speculation.
Correct me if i'm wrong but I think it was a mix between either leak bait or false information and I believe Rathalos was named something like "EndDragon" or something similar in the files and he mistook it for the Ender Dragon from Minecraft. That last part might have been speculation though...
That's what I was referencing as being the starting point for any serious Steve discussion. Vergeben wasn't taken too seriously until after E3 2018 and even then he still had a fair amount of detractors until the Belmont reveal proved there to be something to him. E3 2018 is not yet two years ago.
so like Katalina too?
Nah, plenty of people lament that Dark Samus was an Echo the way she is. But plenty of people also accept that she might've not gotten in at all if not for these clones. The character ironically has a lot to make her stand out despite the name.
Geno is already in this game. The spirit is right there. It’s just not the hurdle you’re making it out to be.
Steve was wanted by some people on Miiverse, I think I remember seeing some people on there want him (I think so anyway, I didn’t really use Miiverse much but I did visit it sometimes) and other users have mentioned it during Ultimate’s speculation cycle too. I remember making a Steve joke on a thread (the joke was a fake Smash 4 website page leak) too though I also genuinely wanted him, kinda sucks if that many people really treated him as only a meme. He may have only got on Nintendo systems starting in 2015 but Minecraft still existed 5-6 years before then.
I think this is the weakest take on the "Geno is too insignificant" argument that makes up pretty much the entire previous page. True, there's no marketing potential with him, but they're still getting paid for the character and their related assets. The deal wouldn't hurt them any.
I don't think you are seeing the point of the comments, of course SE accepted to give Geno for the amount of %0.0000000000001 dollars as a Spirit, but they probably would ask for at least double the amount of money for Geno as a playable character compared to any another SE character Nintendo would want, cause they (SE) wouldn't benefit in the slightest from it, making it way more expensive. The decisive factor is if Nintendo would be ok with paying that much money for Geno and giving SE way more percentage of the DLC earnings, or they get a different character that's way more relevant and SE wants to advertise for a cheaper price (probably not really cheap, but cheaper than Geno).
Everyone wants their character to be recognized and acknowledged, but most of the time Sakura would rather do minimal effort on those types of characters but will move mountains for characters nobody want like Piranha Plant. Just show of pathetic most of those characters are when it comes to the Smash Bros team.
At least they aren't as pathethic as those that don't make it into the game.
Piranha Plant is a recognizable character that nobody was expecting, Geno is an obscure character that everyone was expecting. Oh the irony...
Considering that the Dragon Quest music costs was the reason why Hero was DLC I don't think Nintendo is overly worried about a high price tag.
First of all, this is blatantly false.
Better to not be in than being a PNG, an NPC or an ugly costume in a fighting game that all about playing as the characters.
I don't think the price tag is the issue. You've got two companies who own a character who they don't really care about. Nintendo has moved on from SMRPG and put their focus on Paper Mario and M+L, while SE has had three opportunities (3on3, Sports Mix, Fortune Street) to add Geno in a Mario game, and they didn't (the last one even had SMRPG music).
It's better to recieve no acknowledgment and be forgotten entirely?
This character got in before this character is a bad argument. If a character gets in, they’re in, when or how is only relevant to the mindset of people who want one character to be superior to the other for their own benefit.
Better recieving no acknowledgement and remembered by their fans than being acknowledged as a complete loser and being reminded how they're worthless then a common enemy.
Cameos made with great attention to detail are not the equivalent of publicly trashing them like this:
Because the mindset of “why should I like you if it doesn’t result in me getting things my way” is kinda sociopathic and not a healthy foundation to establish affinity.
Lol, nobody agreed to that.
It'd be perfect, if not for that one thing.
And the fan service for them sucks. It's bleh and might as well just be the character thrown in the trash.
They're fictional character.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's a slight against the character. Besides, there are characters that are fighters and Spirits. (and every fighter has a non-equipable Spirit). You're not seriously arguing that they're putting Mario on a pedestal and throwing him in the trash at the same time are you?
No offense, but that's a really crummy way to look at things.
Unrelated, but in light of Teen Titans Go, Thundercats Roar, N52 Lobo trashing the original Lobo...
Big difference there is that Mario is actually playable which will always be the most important thing when it comes to Smash Bros. If you're not playable then you're insignificant. Nobody boots up a fighting game so they can see what NPCs are added in, they want to play the game. Also if I, a fan of those characters, don't like what they did to them then it should be viewed as a slight against them since they failed the fan service part.
People keep going on on how Sakurai should take a break, so how about we lighten the work load by having him stop wasting time on making Assist Trophies? Not everyone can be playable but I would be fine if they don't bother making them an Assist Trophy because that waste a lot of development time that can literally go anywhere else. I rather they took all that time & money they spent on Assist Trophies and go to a beach and relax, it's a way better use that way. Nothing is beneficial from being an Assist Trophy, in fact most series died after they became Assist Trophies in Brawl because the games featuring those characters that came out a year or two later sold terribly and they never had another game since. Starfy, Golden Sun, and Sin & Punishment, all had game after Brawl and never had another one ever since.
come on, is this behavior really acceptable. Grow up kid.
Also damn why do people still consider arguing with Wynn
All I'm doing is stating the obvious. What do you call a character when a generic enemy beats them? First thing that comes to mind is "trash" and "loser"
