Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[EricTheGamerman]

Except don't all the ARMS characters have their own unique moves and special abilities? That's a problem I see having the Hero/Bowser Jr. treatment.

Counterpoint, Dark Samus exists. Smash takes creative liberties to make characters playable, they could easily do it with ARMS too.

 

[Kotor]

The Only new Xenoblade Character I could see getting added; is Malos from Xenoblade Chronicles 2; As A Villainous Echo Fighter of Shulk; Since He, like Shulk; has access to Monado Arts!!

You want Malos to be the same size as Shulk?

 

[Tako Tuesday]

Smash doesn't have to include those differences, though. As long as they can share a model base, they're fair game.

To add to this, they could mix in some character exclusive abilities that aren't too specific, like Min Min'd midair kicks to all 4 assuming they pull a Hero. Spring Man using Min Min's signature kicks would still be less crazy than Ness using Starstorm, and every other move in Smash he can't actually use.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Also, a good deal of the variety in ARMS comes from the Arms themselves, moreso than the character exclusive abilities. Every character can use the same Arms, so it wouldn't be too hard to pull off a Hero with them.

False. You pick ARMS to synergise with your character's playstyle. Not the other way around.

Counterpoint, Dark Samus exists. Smash takes creative liberties to make characters playable, they could easily do it with ARMS too.

Counter Counterpoint: People don't like Dark Samus's implementation. They're glad it's here but find its moveset lacking.

 

[Calamitas]

You want Malos to be the same size as Shulk?

Wouldn't be the first time that Smash completely screwed around with how tall some humanoid characters are in relation to one another.

 

[Tako Tuesday]

False. You pick ARMS to synergise with your character's playstyle. Not the other way around.


Counter Counterpoint: People don't like Dark Samus's implementation. They're glad it's here but find its moveset lacking.

That doesn't change the fact the the Arms themselves add enough variety to make a Smash fighter that encompasses multiple characters in one.

 

[Hinata]

Spring Man would be a really wild choice considering he is currently an assist trophy, a Spirit, and a Mii costume.

If he was the ARMS character, all they would need to do is have him cameo in the back of the ARMS stage when he's not being used, and then he's covered every single role a character could possibly have.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Counterpoint, Dark Samus exists. Smash takes creative liberties to make characters playable, they could easily do it with ARMS too.

Yeah and many people weren't too happy on that from what I recall...

I feel like it's most likely Springman plus lots of other characters, based on that reveal, but I feel something nobody is considering (at least as far as I've seen) that this weirdness probably has a lot more to do with COVID than it does Nintendo intentionally doing it to reveal a strange outcome. Probably a case of seizing the opportunity, as the outcome may still be kind of weird/unexpected ala "multiple characters as alts," but guided by the virus's inconveniences.

Don't understand why they just couldn't said who the character was aside from not showing gameplay but okay.

 

[Miifighters4Smash5]

You want Malos to be the same size as Shulk?

I was only alluding to the fact that they BOTH Use Monado arts; and I Was viewing him akin to the Dark Samus to Shulk's Samus;

I never really played OR watched an LP of XC2; so I really Don't know how big or small Malos is; I'm going to level with you guys; I Only know about this guy because I read about him on TVTROPES

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Spring Man would be a really wild choice considering he is currently an assist trophy, a Spirit, and a Mii costume.

If he was the ARMS character, all they would need to do is have him cameo in the back of the ARMS stage when he's not being used, and then he's covered every single role a character could possibly have.

Or through the next update replace his assist, spirit and mii costume with Springtron.

 

[KneeOfJustice99]

You know what, everyone be talking about ARMS, nah, I'm throwing a dumbass idea into the ring that's never gonna happen.
However, it is quite interesting, and I wanna see if y'all like it :3

Spoiler: Dumbass idea

So, I was awake last night from sheer boredom, and I came up with a really dumb idea for a character... or should I say, characters.
See, the idea of this one would be that you would play as a group of Robot Masters - all of which I'd say should be from the same game.
However, I was kinda torn between which to add - so I at first went with the Robot Masters from Megaman II. After all, some of the abilities already in the game work fairly well here... then again, there's Flashman, who would stop time completely - so obviously broken.
As such, I chose Megaman III. There's a variety of available Robot Masters with very interesting, but not broken, abilities. They're below -
- Needle Man
- Magnet Man
- Gemini Man
- Hard Man
- Top Man
- Snake Man
- Spark Man
- Shadow Man
- Proto Man

Here's a quick idea of how they each play.

Needle Man is a fairly slow bruiser, of a mid-heavy weight. His Side-B involves him leaping sideways headfirst, using the needles on his head as an attack. Up-B involves him basically floating for a bit, shooting needles below him. However, it doesn't have much vertical range, relying on horizontal range instead. Notably, his moves are mostly multi-hit, due to the nature of needles being a multi-hit attack.

Magnet Man differs from most here, as his Side-B is actually his Magnet Missile. His Neutral-B is actually somewhat similar to PSI Magnet. It absorbs projectiles, but has a slightly larger hitbox in a specific region - which draws other fighters in, kind of like Ganondorf's Up-Tilt. Furthermore, if used without absorbing, it has very little lag, and can be used to quickly change spacing. Note - he does take some damage from projectiles in this state, and there's quite a lot of lag if he does absorb the projectiles. His Up-B is basically a float, which can be in reference to how he supposedly sticks to ceilings in his sleep. Furthermore, this dragging mechanic is used in his Smash attacks.

Gemini Man has a similar circumstance to Magnet Man, in that his equipable attack is his Side-B. His Neutral-B summons a clone of him, which then works in a similar way to Ice Climbers. However, it has a limit - it can only be present for 10 seconds, requires a short period of time to recharge, and will be destroyed if it takes over 50%. Furthermore, if it takes damage, so does Gemini Man - but the knockback isn't transferred. His Up-B is basically Naruto's from Super Smash Flash 2 - he summons a clone, which kicks him upward. These clones appear in a lot of his moves, too - specifically his throws.

Hard Man plays a lot like Bowser. He's slow, heavy, and relies on dishing out single, heavy hitting attacks. His Neutral-B is Hard Knuckle, which works more like the source material as opposed to how it works in Megaman's moveset - that is, being a horizontal projectile, that can be aimed up or down during movement, like Zelda's Side-B. His Side-B, however, is a huge jump, which works kind of like you'd imagine Dedede's Up-B to work if he jumped sideways. His Up-B is basically Dedede's, however - albeit with the drop as a part that remains, regardless of inpits.

Top Man is a combo-centric, mid-range character - kind of like Sonic perhaps? - who relies on his speed in order to take out opponents. His Neutral-B is basically Meta Knight's, but also reflects projectiles. His Side-B throws spinning tops, kind of like R.O.B's, but not as items. They as such can't be picked up. Lastly, his Up-B is a variant of Donkey Kong's. Notably, most of his attacks revolve around spinning (pun intended) and also reflect his passion for physical activities like rollerskating.

Snake Man is fairly fast and lightweight, and has a very low profile, making some moves like ZSS's Side Smash go straight over him. His Neutral-B is his Search Snake, which works a little like Bowser Jr's Down-B, but can also go on any surface, including the bottom of stages, up walls, and such before exploding. His Side-B is similar to Greninja's, but he digs beneath the ground and essentially uses Knuckles' attack (albeit a little weaker.) This can't be used in the air, however. His Up-B is basically Lucas' grab.

Spark Man is a midrange, all around character, similar perhaps to Pikachu. His attacks mostly centre around electricity. Neutral-B is Spark Shock, a simple projectile that stun when they hit a fighter (like Corrin's) but are fairly slow to fire, albeit fast when they actually do get fired. His Side-B is an original move that throws him forward, kind of like Diddy Kong's. When he hits, he performs two electrically powered punches that stun the fighter it's used on, then launch them away. Lastly, his Up-B works like Lucario's, but uses electricity, and has an electrical hitbox across it's entire path.

Shadow Man is a character very similar in technique to Sheik - a fast midweight, designed around combos, but lacking kill potential and knockback on many attacks. His Neutral-B is Shadow Blade, which works just like in his source material. Notably, it is more powerful than Metal Blade, and slightly faster, but can only be thrown in 5 directions (as in the original game when equipped by Megaman.) His Side-B has him summon a robotic frog, which latches onto characters and explodes, again like Bowser Jr's Down-B. However, they jump, and charging them allows three sizes - a small frog, maybe the size of a Pokeball, a medium one, perhaps the size of Pichu, and a large one, the size of Bowser. His Up-B summons a smokescreen around him, and then he teleports within this in any direction.

However, their base character is an interesting pick - Protoman. Protoman is the character you start with, and plays very similarly to Megaman, albeit with one difference - he doesn't have access to the Robot Master's abilities, so instead relies on his Proto Buster, Charge Shot, Slide and his shield. His Charge Shot is actually his Side and Up Smashes, as well as the Proto Buster being his Jab, Side Tilt and Up Tilt. His Down Tilt is a slide, like Megaman, and his Down Smash is basically him firing into the ground and making a shockwave, with a similar hitbox to DK's Down-B. Neutral Special is him putting his shield up, which deflects projectiles at a 45 degree angle upward, Up-B is Rush Jet, differentiating further from Megaman, and his Side-B is a shield bash, which (if timed correctly) reflects projectiles with 1.5x speed and damage. It also has a hitbox, with low knockback. Notably, his defence is very low - he actually takes 1.5x damage - but his attacks are very powerful and deal a lot of damage.

Their shared Down-B essentially takes the form of the Stage Select from the Menu, with Megaman's head being replaced with Protoman's. To select a character, you hold Down-B, move the control stick in the desired direction (no direction selects Protoman, of course) and then let go of Down-B. This then has the characters switch, with an animation similar to Megaman's entrance animation. Notably, the character selected at the start is always Protoman.

Their Final Smash switches the character back to Protoman, as his whistle plays and a hitbox all around him affects fighters. Then, the affected characters would be drawn into a cutscene, with all of the Robot Masters using their abilities on the players. This has massive knockback.

Notably, alts would be based on characters from a variety of other games, mostly centred around Protoman. His alts would include one that references Megaman, one for Bass, one for Zero, one for Dr Light, one for Duo, one for a Sniper Joe, and one for a Mettaur. The alts of the other Robot Masters would reference some characters from games in which the characters referenced by Protoman were present (so, for instance, his Zero costume would mean the Robot Masters would have colourations akin to the Mavericks from Megaman X.

The taunts for each character would be something that reflects their personality, and their victory screen can be based on the Robot Master that landed the last hit - except for one, which has all nine on the victory screen. Their stage would essentially be in Battlefield format, but change between the tilesets, backgrounds and music of the different stages in Mega Man 3, in the traditional 8-bit style.

Hope y'all have a nice day, anyways :D

 

[MrElectroG64]

I think we're going to get another variety pack akin to Banjo and Byleth:

• The two returning costumes will be the Monster Hunter costumes.
• The two new costumes would most likely be more new third party costumes. If it's anything like Ubisoft's contributions, maybe we'll get some Bethesda costumes? Perhaps a certain rumored Meatwad finally makes it's appearance? I dunno...
• The last costume will most likely be another indie character a la Sans and Cuphead. No idea who it would be, but I have heard people bring up Hollow Knight and Ori. Personally I'd like to see Miriam, Yooka & Laylee, or Madeline from Celeste.

I'm guessing for ARMS related miis, anyone who isn't fit enough to be an alternate costume, like some of the big guys like Max Brass or the Mummy dude, or Helix.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Spring Man would be a really wild choice considering he is currently an assist trophy, a Spirit, and a Mii costume.

If he was the ARMS character, all they would need to do is have him cameo in the back of the ARMS stage when he's not being used, and then he's covered every single role a character could possibly have.

He also needs to show up in the Final Smash if he's not the ARMS character being played as.

 

[TheCJBrine]

Spring Man would be a really wild choice considering he is currently an assist trophy, a Spirit, and a Mii costume.

If he was the ARMS character, all they would need to do is have him cameo in the back of the ARMS stage when he's not being used, and then he's covered every single role a character could possibly have.

Spring Man wants to beat Chrom at his own game.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Except don't all the ARMS characters have their own unique moves and special abilities? That's a problem I see having the Hero/Bowser Jr. treatment.

The development team has frankly taken many liberties in the creation of many characters in the roster. These look like, but are not limited to:

- Byleth using 3 main weapons they don't use in Three Houses
- Robin using Nosferatu
- Mario being able to use the fireballs and cape without a power up first
- Bowser sounding like a lizard monster
- Donkey Kong sounding like an ape as opposed to his goofy voice
- Zero Suit Samus using jet pack high-heels
- Dark Samus not using her own unique abilities
- Chrom and Lucina not actually fighting like one another despite Awakening having a moment where Lucina basically says she learned to fight from Chrom in the future
- Ike is slow in Smash, but incredibly fast in his home games
- Ganondorf doesn't use Dead Man's Volley
- Joker doesn't need to actually be hurt first to use his Persona in Persona 5
- Sheik doesn't use grenades in Ocarina of Time, nor does she use needles, yet we have an entire moveset of liberties taken
- Fox doesn't do anything he does in Smash in his own game. It's an entirely made up moveset, though I believe he and the other space animals are designed around the functions of their Arwings/Wolfens
- Olimar is described as being the size of a quarter
- Ridley is typically huge in size, but is reasonable in Smash
- Luigi's personality in Smash is quite unlike his personality outside of Smash
- Haven't played Mother 3, but I believe Lucas can do a move in Smash he can't do in Mother 3
- R.O.B is a toy, yet in Smash can fire lasers

I could go on. However, it should be clear that Smash takes liberties when needed to make fighters function within the confines of Smash gameplay. The way ARMS fighters function by default will make them interesting to begin with when it comes to implementation in Smash, but by any of these indications it seems clear that having characters share functionalities that are usually exclusive is not actually something to rule something out from happening; rather it is a personal qualm that, frankly, will not affect the outcome.

If that's what they want to do, they will do it...regardless of fan opinions of it.

 

[Miifighters4Smash5]

Wouldn't be the first time that Smash completely screwed around with how tall some humanoid characters are in relation to one another.

Especially when you've got Pikmin characters scaled up to the other characters; because they're so tiny; you'd need a Microscope to see them at their canonical microscopic size

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

That doesn't change the fact the the Arms themselves add enough variety to make a Smash fighter that encompasses multiple characters in one.

If you can conceptualize a version of Spring Man that plays like Spring Man, Ribbon Girl, Ninjara, and Min Min, without giving him any of their abilities beyond the ARMS they use then I will be surprised and ecstatic.

EDIT: 1000% sure this wouldn't play like any of these characters though.

 

[blackghost]

someone that knows about arms answer this:
yes all the arms can be changed but what are the base arms for these characters when the FIRST showup? spring man, twintelle, and ribbon girl both have simple looking gloves when i google search them. When i google search minmin 9/10 times she has a giant wrecking ball in one hand and a gun arm in the other. one thing sakurai has done with characters that have multiple equipment and multiple weapons: snake and bayo is that he has used for movesets the equipment a character starts with. snake uses basic c4 and a missile. bayonetta gets a sword in the first level of her first and second game but its not in the moveset.

the funniest thing about looking this up is twintelle sips more tea than a Kermit the frog meme. if she got in that would be her taught, win pose, and idle animation.

i dont think this character is a hero situation or a kooplings one. this wont be an alts situation imo.

 

[AntagonisticGalaxyCetacea]

While I'm not saying the character will definitely be Springman, I just think people are setting themselves up for potential disappointment due to overthinking his inclusion. This is about as on par as "They wouldn't add Terry over Nakoruru or Kyo!"

 

[blackghost]

3. Arms 2 gets revealed in June and its the face of that game being a brand new character and this is just Nintendo's way of ****ing with us by making us think its a character from the first game.

ok you are just smarter than the rest of us. out here playing 4-d chess. Nintendo would take the FE marketing plan and apply it to OTHER FRANCHISES makes sense to me.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Well if it is Spring Man I'm all for Springtron replacing his assist and Spirit after next update.

 

[Calamitas]

Especially when you've got Pikmin characters scaled up to the other characters; because they're so tiny; you'd need a Microscope to see them at their canonical microscopic size

Not my point. I'm talking about the human(oid) characters in particular. In Fire Emblem, M!Robin is taller than F!Robin, yet they're both the same height in Smash, and Lucina is not taller than M!Robin, yet she is. The Robins are both shorter than Shulk, who isn't all that tall himself, either. Palutena is also way taller than either of the Pits. And Ganondorf usually outright towards over both Link and Zelda, and yet he's pretty close to them in terms of height in Smash.
Point is, Malos being made the same height as Shulk wouldn't be the weirdest thing Smash ever did.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Good point there. I wasn't around during the era of Sm4sh so I wouldn't had known that.

We also didn't get the first protagonist of the Pokemon series till the third Smash game.

 

[Icedragonadam]

Well if it someone from the 15 and not say Biff or a Arms 2 character, I'm banking on Max Brass since lore wise he's probably the most important character in the series.

 

[MrElectroG64]

Well if it is Spring Man I'm all for Springtron replacing his assist and Spirit after next update.

As much as I'd love to play as springtron, this is probably what's going to happen. at least, with his assist trophy. springman's spirit will probably stay the same, with his fighter spirit just being his smash artwork, ala cloud. Springtron would likely just have his own spirit added.

 

[GoodGrief741]

Reading all the posts that don't expect Spring Man because of the mysterious reveal, reminds me of when people said the SNK character wouldn't be Terry because he wasn't as cool as Nakoruru. That didn't go well for those people, and Terry ended up being a cool character whose moveset and personality won people over.

I think it's just likelier that Nintendo created mystery out of nothing for no reason and we're just heading into an anticlimactic reveal. Would be far from the first time that Smash had one of those.

Not saying it'll be just Spring Man, but to expect a solo character that isn't him, or a group of alts that doesn't include him, is unrealistic imo.

 

[KneeOfJustice99]

Guys Smash never really paid much attention to canon height anyways lets be real
Otherwise, Kirby would be 8 inches, Olimar would be microscopic, Bowser would be like twice the size of Giga, and let's not forget that some characters can change size (I'm looking at you, Mario Bros)
They're just added in a way that makes sense for the game itself and for playstyle, and very rarely is the size of a hitbox considered in comparison to another - I think the only examples are Daisy and Dark Samus, which are marginal at best

 

[HansShotFirst20]

Perhaps that was hasty.

What I will rectify is that, while everybody here clearly enjoys talking about Smash, some allow their speculation to strictly be based on proving/arguing why their most wanted, no matter the cost isn’t seen as unlikely. Does that sound better?

It’s clear to me at least that right now, folks are trying to find ways to argue their character of choice is in high probability of being added, when that simply isn’t the case or at least isn’t any reasonable evidence to support it.

Granted, I’m an English teacher. I don’t usually see arguments as strong if I don’t see the evidence or think it connects, so that’s at least my perspective of it.

While it may get annoying in some cases, I think people grasping for reasons as to why their favorite characters could be in is ultimately what drives Smash speculation in 'peace time', when there's no major leak or tease to discuss.

Granted, non leak-based speculation has generally failed to predict newcomers, whether it's based on evidence, favoritism, or otherwise.

P.S. I am now watching my grammar extra closely when replying to your posts.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Reading all the posts that don't expect Spring Man because of the mysterious reveal, reminds me of when people said the SNK character wouldn't be Terry because he wasn't as cool as Nakoruru. That didn't go well for those people, and Terry ended up being a cool character whose moveset and personality won people over.

I think it's just likelier that Nintendo created mystery out of nothing for no reason and we're just heading into an anticlimactic reveal. Would be far from the first time that Smash had one of those.

Yes but keep in mind Vergeben told us who it was before his reveal. That and the SNK thing was accidentally leaked in the first place.

Plus Nintendo has been taking more measures to prevent leaks from occurring.

 

[Icedragonadam]

Reading all the posts that don't expect Spring Man because of the mysterious reveal, reminds me of when people said the SNK character wouldn't be Terry because he wasn't as cool as Nakoruru. That didn't go well for those people, and Terry ended up being a cool character whose moveset and personality won people over.

I think it's just likelier that Nintendo created mystery out of nothing for no reason and we're just heading into an anticlimactic reveal. Would be far from the first time that Smash had one of those.

There's a difference between leakers being coy with people and Nintendo themselves playing up the mystery.

 

[blackghost]

Fwiw Ninjara is the most popular character by volume. Spring-Man being third.

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most used. not most popular. maybe nijara was just the best. idk much about arms but a teleport given the games mechanics seems very good.

 

[Miifighters4Smash5]

Well if it someone from the 15 and not say Biff or a Arms 2 character, I'm banking on Max Brass since lore wise he's probably the most important character in the series.

DR. COYLE; She created Hedlock, She Created Helix, and She Created Springtron; she's essentially the Main Antagonist of the whole game!!

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

someone that knows about arms answer this:
yes all the arms can be changed but what are the base arms for these characters when the FIRST showup? spring man, twintelle, and ribbon girl both have simple looking gloves when i google search them. When i google search minmin 9/10 times she has a giant wrecking ball in one hand and a gun arm in the other. one thing sakurai has done with characters that have multiple equipment and multiple weapons: snake and bayo is that he has used for movesets the equipment a character starts with. snake uses basic c4 and a missile. bayonetta gets a sword in the first level of her first and second game but its not in the moveset.

i dont think this character is a hero situation or a kooplings one. this wont be an alts situation imo.

Spring Man has the Toaster (a basic ARM with the fire attribute), Tribolt (A light ARM that has a wider horizontal range, and the stun attribute.), and the Boomerang (a more angleable ARM with the wind attribute.)

Twintelle has the Chilla (the Toaster, but with the ice element), Parasol (an ARM with a wide radius with the wind attribute. I like to use it as a shield, though I'm not sure that's its purpose.) and the Thunderbird (an ARM with a wierd arc to it with the electric element. I think it hits on the way back too).

Ribbon Girl has the Sparky (the Toaster, but with the electric element), Popper (a light, multi hit arm with the wind attribute), and the Slapamander (a whip type ARM with the fire attribute).

I have to get back to work, but you can learn more here.

 

[MrElectroG64]

Reading all the posts that don't expect Spring Man because of the mysterious reveal, reminds me of when people said the SNK character wouldn't be Terry because he wasn't as cool as Nakoruru. That didn't go well for those people, and Terry ended up being a cool character whose moveset and personality won people over.

I think it's just likelier that Nintendo created mystery out of nothing for no reason and we're just heading into an anticlimactic reveal. Would be far from the first time that Smash had one of those.

Not saying it'll be just Spring Man, but to expect a solo character that isn't him, or a group of alts that doesn't include him, is unrealistic imo.

I wouldn't rule out the likelihood of a multi-fighter due to alts. I feel like its too good of an opportunity to have springman come with a few alts of different characters, as they're all so similar already.

 

[GoodGrief741]

Yes but keep in mind Vergeben told us who it was before his reveal. That and the SNK thing was accidentally leaked in the first place.

Plus Nintendo has been taking more measures to prevent leaks from occurring.

There's a difference between leakers being coy with people and Nintendo themselves playing up the mystery.

So? It's still us throwing out guesses about a group of characters, only for it to end up being the obvious one. Just saying, sometimes the answer is the most obvious one.

For what it's worth, I think all this mystery about the ARMS character is just because they couldn't get a trailer done in time. Be that because of the current world situation, to pad a pretty empty Direct, or just because, like Joker, Nintendo wanted to announce the first character much earlier than Sakurai expected. These are all possibilities that should be kept in mind when discussing this character; just because there's a mystery doesn't mean the answer has to be a twist.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

For what it's worth, I think all this mystery about the ARMS character is just because they couldn't get a trailer done in time. Be that because of the current world situation, to pad a pretty empty Direct, or just because, like Joker, Nintendo wanted to announce the first character much earlier than Sakurai expected. These are all possibilities that should be kept in mind when discussing this character; just because there's a mystery doesn't mean the answer has to be a twist.

Don't know what was simply stopping them from just telling us who it was aside from coming from ARMS. No gameplay or trailer needed.

 

[Miifighters4Smash5]

Don't know what was simply stopping them from just telling us who it was aside from coming from ARMS. No gameplay or trailer needed.

Probably the Backlash some ARMS fans would give them for not giving them their favorite character(Like Not everyone has the same favorite character)

 

[MrElectroG64]

Don't know what was simply stopping them from just telling us who it was aside from coming from ARMS. No gameplay or trailer needed.

or at the very least pulling a smash 4 mewtwo or an early reveal terry, with just a move or two being shown.

 

[Opossum]

So? It's still us throwing out guesses about a group of characters, only for it to end up being the obvious one. Just saying, sometimes the answer is the most obvious one.

For what it's worth, I think all this mystery about the ARMS character is just because they couldn't get a trailer done in time. Be that because of the current world situation, to pad a pretty empty Direct, or just because, like Joker, Nintendo wanted to announce the first character much earlier than Sakurai expected. These are all possibilities that should be kept in mind when discussing this character; just because there's a mystery doesn't mean the answer has to be a twist.

If it all just leads to Spring Man, I'll be reminded of this.

 

[Calamitas]

Reading all the posts that don't expect Spring Man because of the mysterious reveal, reminds me of when people said the SNK character wouldn't be Terry because he wasn't as cool as Nakoruru. That didn't go well for those people, and Terry ended up being a cool character whose moveset and personality won people over.

I think it's just likelier that Nintendo created mystery out of nothing for no reason and we're just heading into an anticlimactic reveal. Would be far from the first time that Smash had one of those.

Not saying it'll be just Spring Man, but to expect a solo character that isn't him, or a group of alts that doesn't include him, is unrealistic imo.

Ah, so it's not just me then who's reminded of how this was back in September. Neat.
Gotta say though, I'm personally happy that it's a character from ARMS, period. I don't even really care who it is exactly on account of never having played the game, though I suppose Min Min would be nice.