Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Knight Dude]

We can't have that, Third strike Chun li is so thick that the it would destroy the eyes of the good boys and girls at home.

In the ever lasting words of our hero Micheal Jordan. "**** them kids."

 

[Shadowwolflink]

I thought we've long pass this already? Besides its off-topic and better to discuss in the social thread.

If people can't discuss Coronavirus because it's "off-topic," then maybe you should stop bringing up every movie you're excited for aand whatever movie list of the day you've come up with for the same reason.

You are being a hypocrite.

Edit: I'm going to be honest here, I thought I was in the Social thread. But still, there's no need to be this antagonistic just because someone is concerned about a virus the health organizations around the world are saying is going to get worse from here.

 

[ARandomFruit]

Aight

Monkey's paw time


You get your ideal fighter pass, but 3 of the characters are so god-awful stanky bad that they're totally unviable at all but the lowest levels of play, and the other 3 are so good that they break the competetive scene at Brawl MK levels.

take ya picks

Broken:
Reimu: Projectiles everywhere.

Amaterasu: Really combo heavy and fast

Agumon: Short maybe powerful that can change at will to Greymon which is just powerful and can kill early

Bad:
Laharl: Lightweight Ike i guess..

Sol Badguy: I'm not sure maybe just like regular Sol but weaker?

Neku: Most specials have a cool down and feather like

 

[Llort A. Ton]

No mere virus will kill me. If this corona coward wants my life, then he can fight me like a man. To make this post on topic, I predict Dr. Luigi will be a DLC character.

Aight

Monkey's paw time


You get your ideal fighter pass, but 3 of the characters are so god-awful stanky bad that they're totally unviable at all but the lowest levels of play, and the other 3 are so good that they break the competetive scene at Brawl MK levels.

take ya picks

Epic characters- Thwomp, Barney Calhoun, Vergil (DmC)
Stinky characters- Doomguy, Dante, Rayman

 

[Eldrake]

Aight

Monkey's paw time


You get your ideal fighter pass, but 3 of the characters are so god-awful stanky bad that they're totally unviable at all but the lowest levels of play, and the other 3 are so good that they break the competetive scene at Brawl MK levels.

take ya picks

Seems fun, let's give this a try.

GODS AMONG GODS
Dante: The day right before Dante's balancing, Sakurai suffers a concussion that, while still letting him keep most of his memories intact, makes him completely forget about Bayonetta's existence. Without the lesson of Bayonetta, Sakurai turns Dante into a god of combos with more special moves than Hero that makes Bayonetta blush and the Hero Squad bow their heads in shame.

Juggernaut (Dota 2): Sakurai gives Juggernaut a gold and shop gimmick that allows him to farm for gold by attacking and KOing his opponents and use said gold to buy items to buff himself. The idea was that Juggernaut would start off mediocre to the rest of the roster but can itemize for every situation. Sadly, Sakurai went too far and not only made it too easy for him to farm gold, making it trivial for him to buy items, he also added the DIVINE RAPIER to the shop, an item that's supposed to be high-risk, high-reward item (it's meant to transfer to the other opponent if they KO him) that instead just becomes a "Get pwned, I win n00b" item because it overtunes Juggernaut's attack power and launch power to a ludicrous extreme, turning every attack in Juggernaut's moveset into a "get wrecked" button.

Agumon: On paper, Agumon himself don't seem so bad. Fast and light with the size to match. Then he digivolves into WarGreymon, a lightning fast powerhouse that will completely decimate the opponent the moment he lands a hit. It might be temporary, but it means little when WarGreymon can land two KOs in a single transformation.

Not Even Low Tier """"God"""" Would Pick This Total Loser

Gordon Freeman: Sakurai gives the Free Man the gimmick of ammo-based weapons. Which is cool and well, but Sakurai undertunes the rest of Gordon's moveset and stats, making him poor in melee. This, combined with almost everyone else being able to run to his face and beat him up, means that he don't even get to shine well in ranged combat, and when he runs out of ammo? He might as well just throw himself off the stage.

Travis Touchdown: The recharge gimmick is shoved awkwardly into his playstyle, meaning that he has to drop combos more of the time just to recharge. On top of that, even whiffs drains energy, so he's harshly punished for missing or hitting shields. The rest of Travis' moveset don't really make up for this bad design.

Kraid: He's a big guy, which means big guts to juggle for an eternity. And he's so big that almost any move can put him in hitstun state for the rest of his sad big life. Kraid might be heavier than even Bowser, but it don't really help him much when he's so big that he's an extreme glass cannon anyway. On the bright side, Kraid gets the dubious honor of being the subject of an official competitive tier of his own. Kraid tier. Congratulations Kraid!

 

[Hinata]

Travis Touchdown: The recharge gimmick is shoved awkwardly into his playstyle, meaning that he has to drop combos more of the time just to recharge. On top of that, even whiffs drains energy, so he's harshly punished for missing or hitting shields. The rest of Travis' moveset don't really make up for this bad design.

This is a joke post, but there's a Travis Touchdown mod for Rivals of Aether that literally plays exactly like what you just described.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Edit: I'm going to be honest here, I thought I was in the Social thread. But still, there's no need to be this antagonistic just because someone is concerned about a virus the health organizations around the world are saying is going to get worse from here.

I didn't mean to come across antagonistic. Even then I understand I have to respect people's worry over it. Regardless it still isn't the black plague or apocalypse.

Anyways I won't bring this up again anymore even whenever its brought up by someone else.

 

[DarthEnderX]

I'd want Sector Z, Poke Floats, Mute City and Rainbow Road to return.

We're only missing, like, 15 stages out of the entire series. I want "EVERYWHERE IS HERE!"

 

[SNEKeater]

Any DLC picks you guys think are mutually exclusive (i.e. if one is added, it deconfirms the other characters)?

I personally don't think any 3rd party publishers are going to license more than 1 character for FPv2, but you never know capcom

Doom Slayer and Chief are both green-scifi-military-action-hero-man, so if one is in the other is probably out.

Dante, Travis, and Sol Badguy are red-leather-edge-sword gang.

I don't think we'll get more than one jrpg character we will get no less than 3


What do you guys think?

While I get your point, I don't think that's a serious problem. Chief and Doomslayer aren't fighting each other for a DLC spot for their looks, but maybe they will if Sakurai doesn't find good and unique movesets for both characters.

Same for Dante, Travis and Sol. If for some reason Sakurai wasn't able to give them unique and different movesets (which would be hilarious, I mean, these 3 fight very different), then he wouldn't put all of them. But their looks and their designs won't determine anything, in any case, that's a small factor he will keep in mind, but nothing more.
Maybe I'm wrong but I doubt he has even discarded a character because that fighter looked similar to another already in the roster.

 

[AntagonisticGalaxyCetacea]

Dante, Travis, and Sol Badguy are red-leather-edge-sword gang.

These 3 characters play and behave nothing alike.

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

No third party company is getting more than one character in this pass, though I feel that's just basic logic talking.

Could you expand on that logic? What premises support your conclusion?

 

[Deleted member]

Can we just dismiss Zippo already coz it's been like a couple of hours and still no Direct..

 

[Shadowwolflink]

I didn't mean to come across antagonistic. Even then I understand I have to respect people's worry over it. Regardless it still isn't the black plague or apocalypse.

Anyways I won't bring this up again anymore even whenever its brought up by someone else.

I mean, you labeled someone a "fearmonger" for voicing concerns about a global pandemic that seems to be getting worse by the day, I don't see how that could be taken as anything but antagonistic.

That's the last I'll say, just be more careful with the words that you use next time.

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

Aight

Monkey's paw time


You get your ideal fighter pass, but 3 of the characters are so god-awful stanky bad that they're totally unviable at all but the lowest levels of play, and the other 3 are so good that they break the competetive scene at Brawl MK levels.

take ya picks

That's fine; it's way easier to fix an existing character with mods than to mod in a new character.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

We're only missing, like, 15 stages out of the entire series. I want "EVERYWHERE IS HERE!"

I personally would want to see a mix between returning stages and new stages.

Not every returning stage mind you, we can live without redundanr stages like sector Z.

 

[Deleted member]

Aight

Monkey's paw time


You get your ideal fighter pass, but 3 of the characters are so god-awful stanky bad that they're totally unviable at all but the lowest levels of play, and the other 3 are so good that they break the competetive scene at Brawl MK levels.

take ya picks

Ideal Pass: Y'all know me with the women.

Stretches arms

:

Asuka (SK) - New Queen of the combo game. Can immediately follow-up combos with no execution. Aerial Rave requires one button press. Easy to do ladder combos. Insane touch of deaths. Insane damage. Combos cannot be broken by SDI. By the time she's out, everyone uses her online due to lag. Same can be said in tourney setting. Most of the top 8 plays Asuka. Winning player says "Just use Asuka."

Rex/Pyra/Mythra - Invalidates Pokemon Trainer as the prime 3 in one character. Insane damage. More range than any other swordfighter combined. Can do everything from spacing to zoning out the opponent.

Heihachi - Insane damage. Insane pressure. Only character to have a viable wavedash that is faster than normal dash cancelling. EWGF extends combos to nigh unescapable levels. By the time hhe's out, his gameplay is SO faithful to his regular Tekken incarnation that most Tekken pros simply go to Smash and win with prior moveset knowledge.




Morrigan - Generic shotoclone. By the time she's out., Ryu and Ken have been buffed to tremendous top tier levels that she's insultingly weak.

honestly idk two other low tier picks sorry

 

[Evil Trapezium]

I personally would want to see a mix between returning stages and new stages.

Not every returning stage mind you, we can live without redundanr stages like sector Z.

I can't live without Sector Z. I lie awake at night wondering why I'll never be able be to play on the Great Fox in space.

 

[drag0nscythe]

So one more leaker goes down. Looks like no Feb general direct.

 

[Deleted member]

So one more leaker goes down. Looks like no Feb general direct.

The entire community is really getting bored...

 

[TheYungLink]

Yeah, looks like it'll be like 2018 rather than 2019: a March direct rather than a February one.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Despite the fact that my existential dread has worsened from a CRAZY LARGE BACKLOG, playing the games within it have given me new favorites. Most of all, it has also taken a bit of my focus off of Smash.

Like, I’m here and check in everyday, but I don’t quite constantly comment or check all the time like I used to. It’s quite helpful to have other things to do in addition to commenting here.

Basically, if you’re bored of talking about nothing, then I recommend seeing if you can get your hands on one of the great games of the generation! In the last year I’ve played Persona 5 (great), NieR Automata (great), Dragon Quest XIS (great), the entire Resident Evil series (great), Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (great), Rondo of Blood (great), Devil May Cry 1-5 (great)...among many others. Right now I’m playing The Witcher 3...Geralt for Smash!

Yeah, I said they’re all great. But I’ve learned quite a bit about series I hadn’t played before. I recommend some folks do that as they wait for additional characters in Smash.

 

[Deleted member]

Despite the fact that my existential dread has worsened from a CRAZY LARGE BACKLOG, playing the games within it have given me new favorites. Most of all, it has also taken a bit of my focus off of Smash.

Like, I’m here and check in everyday, but I don’t quite constantly comment or check all the time like I used to. It’s quite helpful to have other things to do in addition to commenting here.

Basically, if you’re bored of talking about nothing, then I recommend seeing if you can get your hands on one of the great games of the generation! In the last year I’ve played Persona 5 (great), NieR Automata (great), Dragon Quest XIS (great), the entire Resident Evil series (great), Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (great), Rondo of Blood (great), Devil May Cry 1-5 (great)...among many others.

Yeah, I said they’re all great. But I’ve learned quite a bit about series I hadn’t played before. I recommend some folks do that as they wait for additional characters in Smash.

I envy your diversity. I'm still marathoning Dragon Quest after half a year playing them.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

the entire Resident Evil series (great)

Spin offs and all, or just the numbered entries? Just curious.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

No Direct announcement eh? Whelp there goes Zippo's credibility...

 

[Rie Sonomura]

ResetEra mods @ Zippo rn:

(this was the only image I could find without swearing as I’m on mobile rn)

 

[Deleted member]

No Direct announcement eh? Whelp there goes Zippo's credibility...

Aand thus we're out of leakers. Nintendo pullin' the stops right now, huh.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Aand thus we're out of leakers. Nintendo pullin' the stops right now, huh.

I mean after the SwSh leaks, can you blame them?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I thought of it more so if we are getting an direct it either goes these two ways.

1. March Direct but no FP6 who isn't revealed until April similar to Byeth to coincide with Amiibo theory.

or

2. March Direct that reveals FP6 doesn't release until April still coinciding with Amiibo theory.

 

[Deleted member]

I mean after the SwSh leaks, can you blame them?

They've been quite lenient with Smash for some time and only turned the red light with Pokemon...that's perfectly fine.

I thought of it more so if we are getting an direct it either goes these two ways.

1. March Direct but no FP6 who isn't revealed until April similar to Byeth to coincide with Amiibo theory.

or

2. March Direct that reveals FP6 doesn't release until April still coinciding with Amiibo theory.

1. I guess it'll be like Joker who is just revealed when everyone least expected it.

2. That's honestly the best outcome for me.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Hmm

I've recently been posting a "pic of the day" every day. I originally captured these to share with our dev team daily via an internal production blog. They're taken using WIP versions of the game and some scenarios you see can't be replicated in the final version of the game.

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) February 27, 2020

Yesterday I posted a pic showing what looks like an old version of Battlefield. This was a dev stage we used to check how the game's fighter models would look using a common light source, etc. You won't find this in the final version of the game!

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) February 27, 2020

That explains yesterday’s Smash 4 Battlefield pic

 

[chocolatejr9]

Hmm

I've recently been posting a "pic of the day" every day. I originally captured these to share with our dev team daily via an internal production blog. They're taken using WIP versions of the game and some scenarios you see can't be replicated in the final version of the game.

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) February 27, 2020

Yesterday I posted a pic showing what looks like an old version of Battlefield. This was a dev stage we used to check how the game's fighter models would look using a common light source, etc. You won't find this in the final version of the game!

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) February 27, 2020

That explains yesterday’s Smash 4 Battlefield pic

Welp, that dream is dead.

 

[Eldrake]

Hmm

I've recently been posting a "pic of the day" every day. I originally captured these to share with our dev team daily via an internal production blog. They're taken using WIP versions of the game and some scenarios you see can't be replicated in the final version of the game.

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) February 27, 2020

Yesterday I posted a pic showing what looks like an old version of Battlefield. This was a dev stage we used to check how the game's fighter models would look using a common light source, etc. You won't find this in the final version of the game!

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) February 27, 2020

That explains yesterday’s Smash 4 Battlefield pic

You gotta appreciate that Sakurai took the time to clear things up before too many people got the wrong idea about the old Battlefield version.

 

[DarthEnderX]

I personally would want to see a mix between returning stages and new stages.

Not every returning stage mind you, we can live without redundanr stages like sector Z.

No we can't! EVERYWHERE IS HERE!

Also, the DLC characters have the new stages. Exerything else can be old.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Hmm

I've recently been posting a "pic of the day" every day. I originally captured these to share with our dev team daily via an internal production blog. They're taken using WIP versions of the game and some scenarios you see can't be replicated in the final version of the game.

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) February 27, 2020

Yesterday I posted a pic showing what looks like an old version of Battlefield. This was a dev stage we used to check how the game's fighter models would look using a common light source, etc. You won't find this in the final version of the game!

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) February 27, 2020

That explains yesterday’s Smash 4 Battlefield pic

On a separate note, the new screenshot makes it look like Masked Dedede could've been an alt, not just part of the FS.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Honestly, I want Sector Z to return just because it's bigger and the hazards are slightly different. Corneria feels too small for me to enjoy.

 

[Seanapotamus]

If I had to guess, I can see us getting a general Direct in the first half of March. Chances are, FP6 might be revealed by then. If not, then something similar in Byleth's case where we get a reveal in a character presentation video.

So where do you guys see the next character being revealed? In the next general Direct, or a character presentation video (like what happened with Byleth)?

Hmm

I've recently been posting a "pic of the day" every day. I originally captured these to share with our dev team daily via an internal production blog. They're taken using WIP versions of the game and some scenarios you see can't be replicated in the final version of the game.

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) February 27, 2020

Yesterday I posted a pic showing what looks like an old version of Battlefield. This was a dev stage we used to check how the game's fighter models would look using a common light source, etc. You won't find this in the final version of the game!

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) February 27, 2020

That explains yesterday’s Smash 4 Battlefield pic

RIP speculation about old stages coming back as DLC
Feb 25, 2020-Feb 26,2020

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Spin offs and all, or just the numbered entries? Just curious.

Mostly the numbered entries, but I did play Revelations 1 and 2.

Really looking forward to Resident Evil 3!

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Mostly the numbered entries, but I did play Revelations 1 and 2.

Really looking forward to Resident Evil 3!

Those games have numbers therefore they are numbered entries

 

[andree123]

Hmm

I've recently been posting a "pic of the day" every day. I originally captured these to share with our dev team daily via an internal production blog. They're taken using WIP versions of the game and some scenarios you see can't be replicated in the final version of the game.

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) February 27, 2020

Yesterday I posted a pic showing what looks like an old version of Battlefield. This was a dev stage we used to check how the game's fighter models would look using a common light source, etc. You won't find this in the final version of the game!

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) February 27, 2020

That explains yesterday’s Smash 4 Battlefield pic

I think someone wants to make a ssb4 battlefield for smash ultimate DLC thread just for bringing back ssb4 battlefield into smash ultimate.

 

[Ayumi Tachibana]

https://s.inside-games.jp/article/2020/02/26/127623.html

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